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TV/MoviesRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe by JujuSugar(f): 11:11pm On Feb 09, 2019
Rextizz:
Ask that mannerless animal wey dey play with his/her life. grin
Di ulu be e don panen panen, a ka jo ni melo melo.
Rextizz, If a drum is sounding "kill him, kill him" one should dance to it with caution. cheesy cheesy cheesy
If you want to insult me, quote my moniker and don't be a bitch. You're acting like you have all the balls in the world behind a computer screen, How funny are you? grin grin
SMDH
TV/MoviesRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe by JujuSugar(f): 10:55pm On Feb 09, 2019
Rextizz:
Look at the animal that just registered this month trying to argue with his/her father, I guess you don't know your mate?

I guess you don't know I eat little bitches like you for breakfast? mess with me and you will regret it, and to those miserable sissies liking his/her post, I got nothing to tell y'all dumbasses.
With all these shit dribbling out of your mouth, I don't know whether to hand you a breath mint or a tissue paper grin grin grin
Don't think anything you say can scare me o. I dont have any drop of respect for keyboard soldiers like you....
Quote me again, and this time i'll take you to the deep end.... the point of no return.....
Onen e n’oogun adoado ee gb’ ayinyan win. cheesy cheesy
I may be a recent user but if you're not careful with me, you'll end up deactivating your account.....
Final Warning......
TV/MoviesRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe by JujuSugar(f): 10:28pm On Feb 09, 2019
Rextizz:
Mumu! you can only say this shit online but try this nonsense with me offline and see how you will end.

Next time quote me with than your burnt hands and you will see the other side of me, mannerless thing.
grin Hehehe...
Adìẹ funfun kò mọ ara rẹ̀lágbà......... The white chicken does not realize its age cheesy cheesy
Rextizz, I advise you for the final time to reel yourself in. Don't be a glutton for punishment......
I am strong. You are weak. You will lick my boots, and I will grind my heel into your face. And you will enjoy it, because you're a m0r0n.....
For the last time, be warned.....
cool
TV/MoviesRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe by JujuSugar(f):
Rextizz:
And who's this bastard quoting me? quote me again and I will fry your black smelling ass.
grin grin grin grin.
I'd love to see you try, bitch cheesy. You think you're a big boy because you can hide behind a keyboard and spew all this shit from your mouth abi?
Try it and you'll know the meaning of Juju Sugar grin grin grin. You don't know jacksh!t. LMAO!!!
Cc. MJBOLT, Vic2Ree, philfearon, XxSabrinaxX, Shittaakeem, JJOF, TheKingIsHere, Raalsalghul, cao and all other users in this thread
Please advise this adopted virgin to reel himself in before he shoots himself in the leg.....
You've been warned......
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by JujuSugar(f): 7:42pm On Feb 09, 2019
theoriginalgood:
So you believe that a truly good being would one day have a filthy rotten corpse?
Yes.
TV/MoviesRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe by JujuSugar(f): 4:43pm On Feb 09, 2019
Rextizz:
She may claim it's hers? and most gullible boys on this forum will fall for it.
Dude, get a life. We don't want to hear your sad bullshit and weird obsession with ladies on Nairaland. Carry ur wahala elsewhere. This is a forum for comicbookmovies.
Christianity EtcRe: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by JujuSugar(f): 12:12pm On Feb 09, 2019
Jayhazard:
The inevitability of death supports biblical submissions.
Why do we all die, no matter how much we avoid death?
It really doesn't. Can you demonstrate this?
RomanceRe: Big Girls Vs Thin Guys by JujuSugar(f): 11:06am On Feb 09, 2019
SyberKate:
I've noticed a love connection brewing between two friends of mine are both like a size 18 and this young guy who is barely size 6.
So I'm just surprised that such big girls don't see anything wrong with being with a guy half their size.
Even if the guy likes either of them and decided to date one, we live in a country where people will look down on the guy like he didn't make the right decision or perhaps people may ask the lady "nee you can do better" grin grin grin

Is it something that shouldn't be an issue and if it is WHYhuh
Obviously, its not an issue. But human beings, Nigerians specifically, are petty AF
Christianity EtcRe: Epic Response To An Astronaut Who Said 'I See No God Up Here' by JujuSugar(f): 10:45am On Feb 09, 2019
Christianity EtcRe: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by JujuSugar(f): 1:47am On Feb 09, 2019
kkins25:
What made angels of the most high God think of sex in the first place.? MuttleyLaff the metatron, your wisdom may be required here.
budaatum:
Lol shocked shocked

As if muttley sabi read! grin grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by JujuSugar(f): 1:37am On Feb 09, 2019
theoriginalgood:
Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there!
Death only proves life. Nothing else.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 2:26am On Feb 08, 2019
shadeyinka:
It makes perfect sense to me. Why?
If by evolution every living thing came about and nature naturally abhor interbreeding of different species. It is actually easier for species to degenerate into different species due to selection than for parallel species (of the same type) just spontaneously existing. I am not a biologist, so I couldn't have put it in precise words.
shadeyinka:
It makes perfect sense to me.
Oh it does, right?
What if i told you there never were a literal Adam and Eve who were a couple and were the ancestors of all of humanity? I'll advise checking out this link ===> https://whyevolutionistrue./2011/06/02/adam-and-eve-the-ultimate-standoff-between-science-and-faith-and-a-contest/
a) Genetic evidence shows that the smallest bottleneck in the human population never fell below 10,000 people.
b) For individual genes, you can calculate a last common ancestor, and since mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA don't mix during reproduction like the rest of our genes, you can find last common ancestors for them in totality, and all of our individual genes, our Y-chromosomes, and our mitochondrial DNA have different common ancestors alive at different times throughout history.
For more info ===> https://whyevolutionistrue./2016/12/27/adam-and-eve-more-than-two-ancestors/
Before you come back with a rebuttal, check out these links!


shadeyinka:
The ark myth?
It wasn't known only in the Bible. It was a common knowledge in the world even before the Bible was written.
And I ask again, where are the official peer reviewed journals to support this assertion?

shadeyinka:
The Sumerians wrote about it and it could also have been passed down as oral tradition among some ancient communities. The fact that it existed in several distorted versions in distantly related communities show that there could be some truths in it.
a) Like I said, there's evidence that Noah's Ark could have been borrowed from the Assyrian's Gilgamesh flood myth....which was probably taken from the epic of Atrahasis ....which was mostly likely parroted from the tale of Ziusudra.....
https://www.ancient.eu/article/227/the-atrahasis-epic-the-great-flood--the-meaning-of/
b) Shadeyinka, you do realize we've not even begun to argue this global flood properly, right? Like we haven't even begun to consider just how global this flood was, precipitation, the volume of water, issues with the ark like how the animals were gathered etc etc......
c) Shadeyinka, how was the fossil record sorted in an order convenient for evolution if they were laid down in the turmoil of a single flood? Can you explain this?

Before we continue, are you also aware that NDEs can be induced chemically? The More You Know...
shadeyinka:
can you explain
1. Why some out of body experiences during NDEs seem to be able to describe there environment eg during surgery
Now we have to establish that there are NDEs and there are veridical NDEs.
Veridical NDEs: Near death experiences in which the person sees something they couldn't otherwise have known while "flat-lining" and others are able to verify that what they saw is actually correct
Not ONE case of veridical NDEs has ever been confirmed under a scientifically controlled setting.
shadeyinka:
2. There has been experiences of the Blind (Born Blind People) seeing in the period of their NDEs
There is a saying that goes: Make sure of the effect before wondering the cause
The mind’s eye isn’t blind, just as people have said they felt the "feeling" of flying. It doesn’t negate that that’s what the person may have felt anymore than you can dissect how people remember things in their mind by using a visual to remind themselves. I am sure that if I ask you right now to describe a plate of jollof rice with salad, fish and beef, your mind will create the visual for you. Just because someone is blind doesn’t mean they won’t have some idea what jollof rice is, even if they never "saw" one. It maybe different than your version of jollof rice, but it doesn’t make it any less valid of an experience.
shadeyinka:
3. How come in almost all the NDE "dreams", the dreamer KNOWS with certainty that he is dead. This seldom happens in dreams.
Shadeyinka, won't you expect that if any particular religious accounts of the afterlife were true, every NDE would pretty much be the same?

Our phemonenology is wholly fabricated. You don't need to die to realize that, you can simply go to sleep. Disembodiment and hallucination can creep into regular consciousness or be induced narcotically. There isnt much remarkable in NDEs.
The problem is that Christian mythology isn't particularly descriptive of what phenomenal experience is like after death. It kind of retrofitted Judaism with bits of Hellenistic demonology and tied it up with some bizarro prophetic eschatology. You shouldn't really be going to heaven straight after dying, or should you? Isnt there supposed to be a final judgement and resurrection of the dead? Are these ideas metaphorical or incorporeal? Nobody really knows, which is why you get such a diversity of NDE reports.

shadeyinka:
1. Foetuses have been seen to have the same elongated skulls as the adults.
2. Could it not be that ancient cultures who bind their heads for years are just trying to "resemble" an advanced culture (who they treat as god-men?)
3. I am sure that you know that some of the skulls contain only one parietal plate, rather than two as is usual in humans. This is not a fusion case it is a case of total absence
4. The hair colours seems not to have similarity with the normal colours available among humans
5. And the skulls seem to be at least 15 -25 bigger
6. We don't even know where to place them in the evolutinary tree!
7......
http://doubtfulnews.com/2014/02/foerster-pye-and-ketchum-collaborate-paracas-elongated-skull-exposed-its/

===>Ancient hair naturally turns reddish in color from a darker shade. So that's not unexpected.
===>Artificial Cranial Deformation is suspected to increase the production of wormian bones, the irregular bones in cranial sutures. This means cranial deformation could potentially increase skull volume.
===>Looking at modern artifically deformed skulls, there are similar shapes and what appear to me to be obviously increased volume..


shadeyinka:
Evolution do not have proof. It's just a theory based on similarities and differences of species. Like saying a bicycle metamorphosed into tricycles, which after millions of years became trailers before some of them took to the air as aeroplanes.

Evolution is a good Physical theory of life where the DNA just contained intellect after millions of years of reordering itself. ....and life just took off from inorganic elements.
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that evolution is real and has happened. With the Bible's account of creation, there isn't the tiniest shred of evidence to prove that it might have happened. The only reason people believe in it is faith. Ultimately, evolution is easier to defend than creationism. That's all that matters

shadeyinka:
Good night!
Sleep tight
RomanceNairaland Ladies, How Many Of You Are As Strong As This Woman? by JujuSugar(op): 5:48pm On Feb 07, 2019
Just came accross this video on Youtube today grin grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQHSn10-G8Q
EducationRe: Beautiful Pictures Of Babcock University Students In Styles (pics) by JujuSugar(f): 4:23pm On Feb 07, 2019
OP, what is your mission with this thread? Is there hidden message or some point you're trying to prove?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f):
Good morning, sir
shadeyinka:
You will know that when the population of the world was younger and inbreeding was encouraged until a time when it was producing higher probabilities of defects. A short time of inbreeding may not be catastrophic to the genetic pool of a society.

Someone like you once argued that lions and elephants cannot exist in West Africa until I showed him the fact that they were hunted down in this part of the world before now.

Of course a lot has changed under 6000 years. Our diet has changed, pollution has increased, vegitation cover has reduced, ozone layer depletion has increased, life span until a few hundred years have progressively reduced etc. So many things changed rapidly within the last 6000 years.
Yes, according to the story of the Bible, Adam and Eve were created perfectly ex nihilo by God. Assuming God was competent at genetics (and why shouldn't he be lol?), Adam and Eve shouldn't yet have had any damaged copies of genes. Their children wouldn't have faced the same problems faced by real people when it comes to inbreeding.
However, sir, let's take it back a bit... sorry if it appears as though i'm changing goalposts, but do you really believe in a literal Adam & Eve who were a couple and were the ancestors of ALL humanity? Like really? This makes sense to you?

shadeyinka:
I said sudden catastrophic burrial of plant and animal remains initiated the formation of fossil fuel which may be related to the flood or an earlier distruction of the world. The destruction couldn't have been slowly because they would have simply become manure.
Ok. Now...
a) Do you have any official peer reviewed documentation of this "catastrophic burial of plants and animal remains" as related to the story of Noah's ark?
b) The Ark myth was most likely copied from an an earlier Babylonian source. Not to mention there are countless other flood myths besides Noah's Ark & The Epic of Gilgamesh.
c) When it rains, water easily picks up hydrocarbons from decaying organic material and carries it into undeground aquifers, here it hits a barrier plate of bedrock and most of it stays, where there are breaks in the barrier plate the water can flow through essentially traping it under ground where it is exposed to heat and increasing pressure when the water tries to boil off, creating hydrocarbon solutions we can easily process into fossil fuels and chemicals. It didn't come from "Noah & The Ark"
d) There is no source other than Abrahamic scriptures that say that it happened. There's no first hand source that describes the flood from the perspective of someone that didn't exist after it. How can we know this happened for sure, when no one really knows that it happened! Who came up with this idea! And don't say it was God's divine words brought down to humanity, that's a whole different argument for another day.
Unless you can humor me my addressing my statement a)...


shadeyinka:
Finally, the Bible isn't a scientific book. It is history as understood by the writers of those days and in their own words.
Yeah. People like you and me. Think about that for a second

shadeyinka:
You claim Science is the Final and best reference for judgement!
Yes! But only for the physical frame of reference.
We claim that God is Spirit hence, Science is not adequate in validating or dis-validating the Spiritual existence.
Exactly! Why have TOTAL confidence in something I cannot prove or disprove?


shadeyinka:
Your position of skepticism would have been ok if there are no "gaps" if you will. eg. NDEs, Skull of Peru, Evolution, TIME, cause and event etc.
Here on Planet Earth, sir, we use the scientific method to find the best possible physical explanation for a given phenomenon. There is no need for supernatural explanations if physical ones will do just fine.

a) Near death experiences (NDEs) can be explained by how the brain responds to oxygen deprivation and to an imminent shutdown, such as that which occurs following cardiac arrest. The brain responds with a heightened state of consciousness:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/a-last-second-surge-of-brain-activity-could-explain-near-death-experiences-28726479/
https://journals.sagepub.com/home/nro
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/peace-of-mind-near-death/
Considering all this evidence, it is possible to explain NDEs as physiological and neurological phenomena, without any implication of an afterlife being involved at all, other than many people's wishful thinking that there is one.

b) Skull of Peru ===> https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/why-ancient-peruvians-had-elongated-skulls-no-its-not-aliens/
Artificial cranial deformations usually involve tightly binding a baby’s squishy head with bandages or clamping it into between wooden planks in order to distort its growth. This is just one insight into one culture’s use of elongated skulls, so it doesn’t necessarily represent all instances of it. After all, it occurred in countless different groups throughout history.

c) Don't understand why you mentioned evolution. Evolution in my opinion is completely independent of religiosity, and you cannot understand the one and believe in the other. Your YHWH did not use evolution to create man, he used dust. Then used a rib from the man to create a woman.
IF, however, you're suggesting that Evolution has "gaps", I'll need you to elaborate. The same with the last two.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 11:04pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
1. Incest lead to retarded offsprings:
Your assumption: the genes of those days were as defective as that of today. You may need to establish this fact before you conclude.
Fair enough. If we wanted to speculate, we wouldn't necessarily all be retarded due to generations of inbreeding. Assuming God did make Adam and Eve as the first humans, they would be genetically perfect as genetic defects are simply collections of mutations that have accumulated in humans over generations. So if two genetically perfect humans had children, those offspring would have been, like their parents, virtually mutation free, as would their offspring. This literal intepretation of the Bible however begs the question of how the vast amount of genetic variation and disease present into human physiology was able to establish itself in the human population in only in only 6000 years.

shadeyinka:
2. Global flood never happened:
But how come fossils from oil well seems from a sudden catastrophic burrial?
And Shadeyinka how, pray tell, does a global flood explain this fossil stuff? It is the opposite of what you want to prove. Deposits laid down slowly and gradually over millennia do not help your case.
And seriously, does anyone who stops for a moment to think about it really believe that Koalas, that live in trees native only to Australia and only eat the leaves of those same trees, these small, vulnerable and SLOW creatures crawled and swam (SWAM !) all the way from Australia to Israel AND BACK AGAIN without stopping to eat on the way. Seriously??
If your explanation is "god waved his hands, and … ta da … magic" then why bother asking questions at all? The answer to every question is the same; "ta da … magic"

shadeyinka:
Tested by what laws and what frame of reference?
Science. Demonstrably the best system humans have ever had for discovering truths about our universe. If it can't be falsified, then there is no point wasting your life away believing in something that can't be proven objectively

shadeyinka:
Hence, your conclusion is mere wishful thinking
It's not wishful thinking. Its the default position. I remain a skeptic until I see evidence to suggest otherwise.
Good night, sir
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 8:29pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Yes you deducted from existing realities by assuming that reality consist only of that which obeys the physical laws.

I didn't use the Quantum/Classical mechanics disparity to prove any gap theory. I just used it to illustriate that impossible things in the Classical realm does not really imply correctness...but lack of complete information.

The athiest is willing to consider the probability of other lives and conciousness outside our Galaxy but yet deny the existence of God because He isn't made up of Carbon, Nitrogen , Hydrogen and Oxygen . He is willing to believe that a thousand years from now, man will be able to travel to the next Galaxy and found a civilization.

I could talk of the gsps if I wish but not like you think not as a proof of God's existence but to show you that there are many things that defy scientific explanation.
I didn't deduct anything. My apologies if you think I said something to imply deduction from reality. When it comes to the claim of a god's existence, we have to consider whether the proposed "god" in this scenario is falsifiable.

YHWH, for example, IS falsifiable. If the god you believed in had to have flooded the entire planet to wipe out all human life but one family and then ordered said family to repopulate the world via incest sex, then that god DOES NOT exist and cannot exist.
Why? Because
A, we aren't all retards due to incest sex. And
B, the global flood never happened in the first place. So the god that did those things logically cannot exist.

The other example is the metaphorical christian god. "Oh everything in the bible is just a metaphor, Jesus is just an example to live up to, he wasn't actually real, it's all spirit and immaterial and god doesn't really interact with the world in any detectable way . . . blah . . . blah . . . blah."
Or attempting to make God an abstract property like love, hate, fear etc etc

That's an unfalsifiable god. I can't prove or disprove anything about him, because there's nothing to really address proof wise.
The one thing I can say about unfalsefiable god claims though, is that because I can't prove anything, there's no rational reason to believe in one.
Which leads up to where we currently stand. ALL god/supernatural claims thus fitting into one of 2 categories ONLY.

1. Claims that have been tested and shown to be false.
2. Claims that can't be tested and are therefore useless.

There is no 3rd category of claims that have been tested and shown to be true. If there were, god would be taught in science classes.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 7:42pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Why go tangent to what is clearly presented. I never insinuated that Quantum physics is a proof of God.

If you can't comprehend, let me break it in lay mans language.
Impossibilities in the Classical Space ARE Possibilities in the Quantum Space.

Like in Classical Physics, Is it possible that matter exist as both particles and waves?
Still see no evidence for YHWH here. If you can't prove something, why believe in it?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 7:35pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Could it be that you are the one deducting from the existing reality. Limiting it strictly to the physical
I have neither deducted, NOR added to reality sir
shadeyinka:
If Christians have claimed a physical God, then you have a point BUT since the Christians God is a Spirit you Atheists will have to go spiritual to prove God doesn't exist. But since you can't, your inability has become your proof
Lol. I chuckled when you said "we will have to go spiritual to prove God doesn't exist.". Hell, I can't even get people to define "spirituality" in a way that significantly differs from what we know about brain chemistry or other measurable, medical reactions in our bodies!
If I can't so much as get a distinct, basic definition, how the heck could I even begin to evaluate claims about the existence and qualities of this so-called "spirituality"?
You must have heard of the God of the Gaps, Shadeyinka?
The term "God of the gaps" is sometimes used in describing the incremental retreat of religious explanations of physical phenomena in the face of increasingly comprehensive scientific explanations for those phenomena.

The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[15][16] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:

There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.

Therefore the cause must be supernatural.

One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start."


Wherever there have been gaps in our scientific understanding, religious apologists will always point at the gaps and say, "That's God! Right There!" The non-intuitive 'weirdness' of Quantum mechanics attracts a lot of these people, and for a while now, Quantum mechanics has attracted all sort of crackpots, new age types, etc. It would be best, Shadeyinka, not to latch onto a discarded notion that never was widely accepted by the scientific community in the first place, and use that to launch a series of related arguments that lead from that premise. It's a weird new sort of self deceit.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 7:12pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Like in the matrix,: what is reality?

To you, reality is defined solely by what can be seen, touched, weighed, dimensioned etc. Like in Classical Physics

For me, reality is defined by what can be seen, touched, weighed, dimensioned AND what can't. Like in Quantum Physics.

Since your God cannot be seen, touched, weighed, dimensioned, he doesn't exist. It is called narrow minded world view.

My God cannot be seen, touched, weighed, dimensioned AND He does exist. It is called wide minded world view.

How do you think Albert Einstein will explain Wave-Particle duality of matter to Isaac Newton without Newton becoming like Einstein?
Shadeyinka, remember what I said about creating your own storms without bringing your umbrella along?.....
Slow down. You're putting the cart way ahead of the horse.
First of all, Quantum physics suggests that the universe is inherently probabilistic and statistical. There's no implication of a god whatsoever here.
I'll give you the notion that God is not calculable. To ask "Does god exist" is not quantifiable. The only thing, as an atheist, I can think of that can possibly exist as a form of "God" is whatever is before the big bang. However, what you need to realize here is that lack of knowledge doesn't quench the burden of evidence. No God of Abraham is, in my opinion, compatible in any way to physics. The relationship you're trying to create between quantum physics and the Christian God YHWH is not just working, fam.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 6:37pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Your logic is Faulty! Very faulty!

If I prove that you are God, then you must be God
If I prove that you are not God, then you aren't

Unfortunately, it is impossible to prove God. Why?
The disparity between God and man is so wide that our dimension isn't sufficient to comprehend Him. However, the reverse is very true. God can prove Himself to be God IFF He chooses to.

Can Bacteria prove that I exist?
You actually can prove nonexistence if the entity said to be existing is self-contradicting, as is the Christian deity. But no, it is not philosophical proof that a god doesn't exist since nonexistence can't be proven.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 6:27pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Life would have been so simple if everything can be proved. Unfortunatly not!
I wonder why any christian would use that kind of evidence

The Only Truth is,
1. I cant proof He exists
2. You cant prove He doesnt exist

Then we hold a position of faith in the existence or in existence of Him.

Of course, we are in a Matrix.
Some things seem not to add up!
Some people seem to have received enlightenment
While others are lost in the maze
No one seems to know why things are the way they are
As per the bolded statement above ===> If you agree that we're experiencing a shared reality, then one of us sees reality as it is, and the other (the theist) is adding something onto it (god). There's your burden of proof.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 6:09pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
No!
It just shows that both of us are people of Faith!
Can you disprove that we aren't in a Matrix? No, you can't. Saying that "you can't prove that god doesn't exists" is stupid because I can put in literally anything I want in that sentence: Unicorns, that we are in the matrix, giant 3 headed dogs, super powers, a giant teapot orbiting Jupiter, etc etc. Literally anything.

Here's a fun mental exercise. Try to prove that: a giant teapot that orbits Jupiter in such a way that we will never see it, doesn't exist. You can present me with all the evidence you want, and I can just make up all contrived bull crap I want to argue against your every point.

Its not about what you can disprove, its about what you can prove. That's all that matters. In science at least. There's a quote that goes "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Well its not evidence of existence either. Its just lack of evidence. No one's going to tell me that the absence of evidence is actually evidence of existence. That's not how it works.

Don't you christians hate when you create your own storms but forget to bring an umbrella?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 6:04pm On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
I don't need you to validate my points: not at all. I don't need to validate God's existence. It is you who need to validate God's non-existence. Morality and Righteousness is relative. The point is , relative to what standard is Righteousness?

Athiesm is a kind of faith! Where the Creator God is replaced with Self or self worship. Before you start screaming, do you have evidence that God doesn't exist? If you do, bring it out! ;Then athiesm would not be a religion if you can prove it.

Yes you do have a doctrine! Disbelieve in the existence of God/God's. Like ATR, you don't have a scripture!


Edited:
Why I am not a Muslim?
I almost said the Shahada in my 200L. I was genuinely seeking for God...... So, I know the Bible and I know enough Islam to make an intelligent choice at the end of the day. The details is not relevant to you!
shadeyinka:
It is you who need to validate God's non-existence.
Lol. Come on now. Your sob argument of "you can't prove that god doesn't exist" is a logical fallacy of which I'm not even going to go into details yet. But since I can't disprove a negative, is it then philosophical proof that he doesn't exist since his nonexistence can't be proven?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f):
shadeyinka:
1. There is no religion in the world that orders a higher form of righteousness than Christianity (I am even commanded to love my enemies). If making heaven is as a result of righteousness alone, then as a Christian, I am more than qualified to enter paradise.
Morality exists outside...., AND precedes religion, so your entire argument is pointless. I don't need religion to be righteous. Also, I don't see how you've come any closer to validating your God's existence with this argument. An argument you are yet to properly demonstrate by the way. Civil righteousness is subjective and personally I could argue that Buddhism is more righteous than Christianity


shadeyinka:
2. There is no other deity other than YHWH who promises damnation in hell for the sin of unbelieving in Him apart from Allah. Check the quran and you will discover that Christians are the nearest to allah and will enter paradise (those who live righteously among them).
In that case, why are you not a muslim?

shadeyinka:
And by the doctrine of You Atheists, I wouldnt even know anything (ill be manure isnt it...LOL)
It'd be more sensible not to include Atheism when mentioning religions. We don't have a "doctrine".

Edit: In your opinion, is a moral atheist better than a moral christian?
Christianity EtcRe: My Proposal To Satan: Deal Off! by JujuSugar(f): 2:02pm On Feb 06, 2019
jesusjnr:
MY PROPOSAL TO SATAN

Repent and ask God for forgiveness, and if God confirms your repentance to me as genuine, i would immediately to put an end to my spreading of the word of his Kingdom to men: However if by any chance you ever return to your old devilish ways, then you would have breached the terms of this contract, which would automatically render it null and void. Meaning that as a result i would be completely free to return to my former ways, prior to entering into that agreement with you, of preaching the gospel of the kingdom to all of humanity. So over to you Satan! Deal or no deal?
NO DEAL angry angry angry
Christianity EtcHow Do You Choose One Religion Over Another? by JujuSugar(op): 12:12pm On Feb 06, 2019
This is for the theists, who believe in a supernatural deity that concerns himself with our daily activities and interferes in our reality: Why do you choose one religion over the other. If you're a Christian, why are you not a Hindu? If you're a Muslim, why are you not a Judaist? If your answer has to do with personal experience, then why bother trying to convert people who don't share these same experiences?
RomanceWhat's The Best Love Poem You've Ever Read? by JujuSugar(op): 11:58am On Feb 06, 2019
Shakespeare's sonnet 116
Let me not to the marriage of true minds

Admit impediments. Love is not love

Which alters when it alteration finds,

Or bends with the remover to remove:

O no; it is an ever-fixed mark,

That looks on tempests, and is never shaken;

It is the star to every wandering bark,

Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.

Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks

Within his bending sickle's compass come;

Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,

But bears it out even to the edge of doom.

If this be error and upon me proved,

I never writ, nor no man ever loved

- William Shakespeare
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 11:47am On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
Don't be rash in speaking because if you looked well you would have seen that the question was well treated.

For your sake again
Calm down and read... this is the OP's question if you narrow it down:
What if you find out that Christianity is false?
If you discover that Jesus has been a myth the whole time, how would you feel?
Also, can you support your claim that the judgement of Christ is more vital than any other god? If you were a Hindu, won't you believe Hinduism is the most righteous religion? If you were a Muslim, won't you believe Islam is the most righteous religion?.....
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Of Nairaland, What If You're Wrong? by JujuSugar(f): 7:35am On Feb 06, 2019
shadeyinka:
You asked this question not because you needed a genuine answer 'cause nothing will satisfy you.

However,
Any Christian who has "30% pass mark" in the judgement of Righteousness of Christ would have scored " 99% pass mark" in the judgement of any other god!


Of course, this question of yours is only hypothetical because Christianity is NOT a Religion. Christianity is a RELATIONSHIP!

So, how can there exist an alternate theory when a relationship is real.

Its an hypothetical situation. A "What if" situation. I can ask you what if Jurassic Park were a real place, would you visit it?.
Its a question based on assumption, not facts. Whether you believe Christianity is true or false, that's irrelevant now: you have to answer the question from a point of view that is neither atheistic nor christian. So stop looking for needles in the hay and answer the question directly.
SMH, you Christians will literally do ANYTHING to scramble the point of the subject.
Christianity EtcRe: Ultimate Questions For True Christians.....if There Was No Heaven And Hell... by JujuSugar(f): 11:59pm On Feb 05, 2019
peacesamuel94:
That is not quite true. Not all religions, give promise of an afterlife, yet people still practice them.
You're right. But you can't deny that a lot of Christians are motivated by everlasting joy in heaven and frightened by the thought of eternal misery in hell.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian(s) Vs Atheist(s) Debate Will Never End... And Is A Waste Of Time by JujuSugar(f):
All good points OP. I'm equally an atheist. However, i want you to look at it this way....

The mission of the Christian movement is one of evangelism: to bring people closer to God (either through normal conversation OR threats of eternal misery in a dimension called hell). If you're a Christian, you obviously believe that anyone who doesn't accept your faith is headed to hell.
Imagine you see a child playing in the middle of the road, a car is headed at full speed at the child's direction. The child, obviously immersed in his current activity, is paying zero attention to the incoming vehicle. What would you do if you were an adult witnessing this? Automatically, it becomes your mission, your obligation, to save that child. I think this is how Christians see Atheists and all other Non-Christians: as individuals about to make a mistake that will jeopardize their eternity.

On the other hand, Atheists view religious folks like the little children sacrificing their precious night sleep (every year) to await the moment Santa Claus hops out of the fireplace to eat their cookies and place their presents ===>Forgive me if these analogies suck
The children doing this have abandoned reality and the moment they're currently in and making the most of the only life they'll ever have because they believe in a ridiculous, unfounded superstition. This is basically religion through the Atheist lens.

The truth is, these things are important.
I know some Nairalanders can be braindead douches who have a mind-numbing habit of twisting words and changing goalposts...
You can't resolve the argument for everyone by arguing on Nairaland, but you can resolve the argument for YOU. Once you engage in these arguments, you always learn something new. And like it is normally said, whatever has been learned can never be unlearned. These things you've learned could eventually transform you and change your life forever.

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