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the bible is a hoax, full of inaccuracies.the divinity and salvation of jesus is equally rejected by the same bible.Isaiah 45:21 says, “Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel
together: who has declared this
from ancient time? Who has
told it from that time? Have not
I the Lord? And there is no God
else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside
me.

[quote author=Bélla3]bible says:
at the mention of his name every kneel bow and every tongue confess.
I am the way the truth and life
no man cometh to the Father except through Me.!
Jesus is our link to God. Undestand?[/quote]except through who?jesus?you will agree with me that abraham,moses,david etc are all pious and righteous men,and they will be rewarded by God?now which way did they pass through?
Isaiah 45:21. “Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel
together: who has declared this
from ancient time? Who has
told it from that time? Have not
I the Lord? And there is no God
else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside
me.”

food for thought.

MacDaddy01: Explain how slavery is a burden any human can bear. Did God allow people to be slaves and eunuchs because it is bearable? Remember that slavery isnt haraam in the Quran.

Religion makes one heartless.

there is NOT A SINGLE statement in the Qur’an, whereby
believers are commanded to enslave other human beings, and as
the Qur’an has called for freeing of slaves as a meritorious act,
alleviated their status by way of marriage as well as economic
support, and declared that servitude is due to God alone (51:56)
and no human being, no matter how high a status he may occupy, that status be of a Prophet of God even, has the right to say to
people ‘be my slaves’ (3:79), it is wrong to suggest that the Book
sanctions slavery.

Critics are very quick to mention that Islam condones slavery, that
Muslims keep and trade in slaves, and even enjoins the use of
slave girls for sexual gratification but they fail to identify as to how
they reached this conclusion. As their criticism lacks any textual
evidence to support the claim, it remains just a claim, an allegation,
and nothing more. But as it has been alleged, that the Qur’an sanctions slavery,
thereby implying that the God of the Qur’an is an unjust God, it is
expedient that textual evidence from the Qur’an be cited to see
whether it sanctions or abolishes slavery. It may be the case that slavery is practised in a society, and in case
believers find themselves in such an environment, then how are
they to behave? After all, even today cases of slave labour, sweat
shops, workers hired on menial wages and living in sub-human
standards, human trafficking etc are not unheard of, and such are
at times even patronised by brands and business organisations based in the so called western liberal and democratic societies who
get their products manufactured through such cheap labourers,
and then sell them at a high price in their domestic market, whose
consumers buy such products, thereby sustaining the vicious cycle
of modern day slavery. In other words the so called champions of
human rights are themselves guilty of slavery these days! In case a believer resides in a society where such a practice occurs,
then how is he to behave? What if he is someone who prior to
embracing Islam practised this institution himself, has a stock of
slave dependants but is now reading the Qur’an, seeking guidance
from it on the matter, then what is he to do in that case? Should
he ‘join the club’ and enslave people himself? Or is he to hold a different approach? Textual evidence from the Qur’an needs to be analysed before
forming an opinion on the matter. A careful study of the text reveals that the Qur’an initiates a
gradual process of improvement in status of those in bondage and
culminating in the very abolition of this institution. The process
started with: “…ye…may wed believing girls from among those whom your
right hands posses….wed them with the leave of their families,
and give them their dower…”[4:25] This conferred upon servant girls all the rights and privileges of a
wife. Verse 36 of Sura 4 brought another big change in the status
of slaves by enforcing the obligation to do good to one’s parents
and in the same breath, also to servants: “…do ‘Ihsan’ (goodness) to parents …and (to) what your right
hands posses.”[4:36] verse 60 of Sura 9 exhorts Believers to give monetary help to
those in bondage in order to alleviate their economic status: “Alms are for…those in Bondage..”[9:60] Verses 2:177,4:29,5:89 etc make another quantum change in this
matter by urging the believers to free those in the shackles of
slavery: “…But it is righteousness…to spend of your substance out of love
for Him…for the ransom of slaves..”[2:177] “And whoever kills a believer by mistake, it is ordained that he
should free a believing slave..”[4:92] “He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for
expiation…give a slave his freedom..”[5:89] According to Quran if a slave asks for his freedom ,the believer is
left for no other choice but to accede to his request and is also
required to help him with funds in order to rehabilitate him as a
free man: “And if any of your slaves ask you for a deed in writing (for
emancipation) give them such a deed; If ye knew any good in
them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means
which Allah has given to you…”[24:33] The basic and fundamental teaching of the Quran is that
subservience and bondage is due to God alone and not to any
human or group of humans. Unlike the Bible, which states: “ye, shall take them (the slaves) as an inheritance for your children
after you, to inherit them (the slaves) for a possession, they shall
be, your BONDMEN (slaves) for ever . . . LEVITICUS 25:46 The Qur’an unambiguously states that no man no matter how high
a status he may occupy, be that status of Prophet hood, no human
being has the right to enslave any other human: “It is not meet for a mortal that Allah should give him the Book
and the wisdom and prophecy, then he should say to people: Be
my slaves rather than Allah’s; but rather (he would say): Be
sustenance providers (Rabaniyoon) because of your teaching the
Book and your studying (it yourselves).”[3:79] The above clarifies the basic teaching of the Qur’an that no human
has the right to enslave another human being, even though he be a
Prophet of God. If Prophets are not allowed to enslave people, how
can ordinary believers do the same? The fact of the matter is that
there is no IMPERATIVE or COMMAND issued to believers to
enslave anybody. If someone used to do it but has now become a believer, his obligation as a believer, in numerous verses is to free
those in bondage, and not to keep them shackled. We can clearly see within the Qur’an that instances where man
subjects his fellow men, are described as a great injustice. E.g. The
Pharaoh had kept the Children of Israel in bondage, and Moses
was commissioned to free them. (c.f 26:22). From above and many other verses it is very clear that the Qur’an
has abolished slavery, and not upheld it. If their remain certain
verses were slaves are mentioned then these are those which were
already existing in society from days of ignorance of the Qur’anic
message and about whom the Qur’an enjoined a gradual elevation
in status leading to their freedom and abolishment of any future enslavement.

MacDaddy01: Derp derp.

Islam is not for poor people.


https://derper.com/images/derp/Derp_Lips.png

hajj and zakat are obligated on those who can afford it,how is it a burden on the poor?

emmysenior: Noted, but you sound so harsh. Next time try to apply the appropriate human relation charisma. Thanx.

aite. But i urge u to reflect on these issues. Who and how do u worship God? Pounder iver it,i will be here to assist .cheers

[quote author=Bélla3]You might be right. Trinity is nt biblical but i stil believ Jesus is lord on earth and there is an heavenly father[/quote]that cant be right,biblically one ought to worship God alone....there's no such thing as reign on earth.....

Delafruita: when you say Jesus is God,i understand eactly what you mean.you mean to say the Jesus created the world,you mean to say it was Jesus who had a duel with satan to tempt Job,you mean to say it is Jesus who sits on the throne and will judge all mankind.you mean to say that stephen was delusional when he saw Jesus sitting at the right side of God,you mean to say that when Jesus looked up to heaven and said "father,forgive them for they know not what they do",he was actually talking to himself,you mean to say we are created in the image of Jesus,you mean to say that Mary is indeed the mother of God,you mean to say that there is no God,just Jesus.you also mean to say that when Jesus said "noone cometh to the father ecept through me" he meant to say noone cometh to me except through me".you mean to say there is no distinction between God and Jesus,you mean to say the Father and the son are the same entity.
i like christianity as a religion but i dislike ignorant christians who dont even know the basics of their religion.even the Bible says "study to show thyself approved".my friend,you have plenty studying to do.start with the nicene creed of 325AD and learn how the trinity doctrine was coined

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
u nailed it....i doubt he will reply...hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

booqee: Dis should be moved to blasphemy section! or better still, to d hell section!

absolute bullshit!

I hope u don't incur d wrath of God, for chipping in d name of Christ in such a stupid thing. Foolishh!

wrath of christ? U mean another cross nailing sacrifice?
Ouch,lightning strikes(seems like zeus with his thunder bolts),hehehehehe,jesus u missed again.....

[quote author=Bélla3]you dnt understand christainity. Nt every one dat goes to church is a christain. Being a christain means u behave like Christ. It means ur daily life. So understand that nt every church goer can call on God unles he is first cleansed[/quote]u miss the point.....what u should focus on is who is worthy of worship GOD or jesus??jesus worshipped GOD wouldn't it make more sense if u worshiped his creator,rather than worshipping the creature (jesus)?

emmysenior: may be you should re-read and try to undstand before you answer, or better still, try to make your answer as simple as the question.

nah u gat problem comprehending english.....my post is simple and easy to understand....my post clearly states that u dont need to believe in jesus to make heaven,like people that inhabited the earth before jesus.....salvations lies in God....
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Cheers01: Nice one, Sherlock! You talk as if I havent declared that Cheers01 is logicboy's other account?


As for Islam being flexible, you are being mischevous. You said before that Islam is conservative and now it is flexible?


Okay, to the main point. Zakat and Hajj are pillars of islam. Pillars that become unnecessary to about millions of of muslims in Nigeria alone who live in poverty.


How is the Haram of Alcohol considerate to unemployed man given a job in an alcoholic beverage company? How? In this recession?

Like I said, it might not be for poor people.

flexibility of islam....
: “On no soul does Allah place a burden greater than it can bear. It gets every good that it earns, and it suffers every ill that it earns.” (Surat al-Baqara, 2:286)

MacDaddy01: How does a poor muslim in the desert know where to face to pray?

weakest argument.

Cheers01: This is a question I asked myself after I gave a beggar my bacon/cheese burger at Burger King (eff Mcdonalds )


1) Zakat
A broke, poor man can not give alms.

2) Halal food.
When I was a student, one of my classmates had to go to the next town to buy halal meat. He was continually broke because of this endeavour. Many towns in the UK do not have halal food stores.

Also, how can a broke man afford to be picky with meat in a non-muslim country? Beggars cant be choosers.


3) Jobs
The alcohol industry employs thousands of people in the UK. Faced between recession + a hungry family and a managerial job in a Beer company. Difficult. Can apoor man afford to be picky with employment offers?


4) Hajj
Can a poor/broke man in Nigeria travel to Mecca?


5) Sawm
Can a poor man afford to fast?

and whats ur point exactly?

Divepen: my grandmother took me to a pastor who said i must not collect anything from my mother
my mother and propietress said i my paternal grandmother, who i live with is a witch.
HELP

none...that pastor is a charlatan......
Ur mother aint the witch,its the pastor's mother...mstchewww.....

prettyrose: Am in a dilemma at the moment, i called it quits with my boyfriend since then he has been crying and begging me to come back. I left him because, i felt i wasnt allowing him to progress. He graduated a long time ago,yet even his younger brother has gone for service, and he hasnt ,and his name came out in this batch b that were just sworn in last week,but he missed it. I just felt i had to let him go so dat he can stand on his feet and move on and excel in life. Right now i dont knw if my decisions were the right one, cos he said life will nt be complete witout his best friend,(me). Pls i need mature advise pls

how were u hindering his progress
Behind every successful man there's a lady.....maybe ur case is the direct opposite........

Skii: Wait first o, make e nefa die abeg, biko...make d guy chill small, we dey find people wey go stand for front when we dey march go aso rock go comot that man wey no get shoe when im b pikin

heehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe...
The most hilarious piece i have read in days

safarigirl: I ask the same question, the most annoying is when they shave it off and the ones drawn on are higher than the original position, then you see like four brows.

hehehehehehehehehe......babes in the west will call it swagggggg....

davidylan: You could say the same of the disjointed and unintelligible quran. At least much of the bible is validated by historical (Josephus) documents and archeological evidence. The quran relies more on blind and oftentimes violent and unquestionable belief.
For instance, did mohammad really ascend to heaven?

bible validated by which sciencehehehehehehehehehehehehe.....dont start what u cant finish....
Muhammad never ascended to heaven...he died a natural death...no where in the quran is it written that muhammad ascended....tallking about scientific and historical evidences and proofs,the quran stands Alone......
Abi make we start intellectual archealogyheheheheheheheheheheheh

emmysenior: What would become of those people who were not fortunate enough to hear about the gospel of Christ before they died? Where would they be, Heaven or hell?

hehehehehehehehehehehe.........the window is much broader and wider than the door....so non-christians choose the door...hehehehehehe

Isaiah 45:21...“Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel
together: who has declared this
from ancient time? Who has
told it from that time? Have not
I the Lord? And there is no God
else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside
me.”

Mpetempe: JESUS CHRIST is the only way forward! Her earthly mother MARY deserves some honour, but, the way CATHOLICS carry it out! Is dispiriting!
Using of Her Images, claiming honour....Gosh! I don't fancy that.

Isaiah 45:21 “Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel
together: who has declared this
from ancient time? Who has
told it from that time? Have not
I the Lord? And there is no God
else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside
me.”

posting the whole conversations here would be difficult,you can follow up on this thread.....
https://www.nairaland.com/983839/justaqad-become-christian-only

MacDaddy01: Well, Toba is not a god debater. Whatever he throws at Allah/Islam can be thrown back at him since he is a christian. It's not like the bible is perfect


I'm an atheist. Justaqad, would you mind debating me on a new thread? I can start a new thread on th topic of errors in Islam/Quran. Would you agree to that?

no problem...but i would like some time to finish my posts on the other thread.......u might want to peep if u like....heheheheheh
https://www.nairaland.com/983839/justaqad-become-christian-only

05/07/2012 4:04 PM: Ola sodiq: No argument those were the words of God..not jesus
05/07/2012 4:04 PM: Out: Good
05/07/2012 4:05 PM: Ola sodiq: So
05/07/2012 4:07 PM: Out: Remember that the definition of say and said means spoken word... Agree
05/07/2012 4:07 PM: Ola sodiq: Haba...say or said so long its the same speaker makes no difference
05/07/2012 4:08 PM: Out: Good and i believe that's to say you agree with me
05/07/2012 4:08 PM: Ola sodiq: Go on
05/07/2012 4:09 PM: Out: Now hold on till i say comment so i can finish typing... Ok
05/07/2012 4:09 PM: Ola sodiq: K
05/07/2012 4:09 PM: Out: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." (John 1:1-5).
05/07/2012 4:11 PM: Out: "That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:9-14).
05/07/2012 4:12 PM: Out: Now comment
05/07/2012 4:12 PM: Out: Who is the word
05/07/2012 4:12 PM: Out:
05/07/2012 4:13 PM: Ola sodiq: Hahahahahahahah
05/07/2012 4:14 PM: Out: 
05/07/2012 4:14 PM: Out: This is just a bet of all
05/07/2012 4:15 PM: Out: And none of this word are my
05/07/2012 4:15 PM: Ola sodiq: The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is not God. In the Bible God is always someone else other than Jesus.
05/07/2012 4:15 PM: Ola sodiq: Hope u will allow me type
05/07/2012 4:16 PM: Out: K... And i will like u to prove it not by ur word
05/07/2012 4:16 PM: Out: But from the scripture
05/07/2012 4:16 PM: Ola sodiq: Some will say that something Jesus said or something he did while on the earth proves that he is God. the disciples never came to the
conclusion that Jesus is God. And those are people who lived and walked with
Jesus and thus knew first hand what he said and did. Furthermore, we are told in
the Acts of the Apostles in the Bible that the disciples were being guided by the
Holy Spirit. If Jesus is God, surely they should know it. But they did not. They
kept worshipping the one true God who was worshipped by Abraham, Moses, and Jesus (see Acts 3:13). All of the writers of the Bible believed that God was not Jesus.
05/07/2012 4:16 PM: Out: Cos all i type are from the bible
05/07/2012 4:18 PM: Ola sodiq: All of the writers of the Bible believed that God was not Jesus. The idea that Jesus is God did not become part of Christian belief until after the Bible was
written, and took many centuries to become part of the faith of Christians.
05/07/2012 4:19 PM: Ola sodiq: Matthew, Mark, and Luke, authors of the first three Gospels, believed that Jesus was not God (see Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17). They believed that he
was the son of God in the sense of a righteous person. Many others too, are
similarly called sons of God (see Matthew 23:1-9)
05/07/2012 4:20 PM: Ola sodiq: Paul, believed to be the author of some thirteen or fourteen letters in the Bible, also believed that Jesus is not God. For Paul, God first created Jesus, then
used Jesus as the agent by which to create the rest of creation (see Colossians
1:15 and 1 Corinthians 8:6). Similar ideas are found in the letter to the Hebrews,
and also in the Gospel and Letters of John composed some seventy years after
Jesus. In all of these writings, however, Jesus is still a creature of God and is
therefore forever subservient to God (see 1 Corinthians 15:28)
05/07/2012 4:21 PM: Ola sodiq: It would do u great good if u jot this facts down
05/07/2012 4:22 PM: Ola sodiq: comment
05/07/2012 4:23 PM: Ola sodiq: U there?
05/07/2012 4:23 PM: Ola sodiq: Dnt abscound oooo
05/07/2012 4:25 PM: Ola sodiq: Now, because Paul, John, and the author of Hebrews believed that Jesus was God’s first creature, some of what they wrote clearly show that Jesus was a pre-
existent powerful being. This is often misunderstood to mean that he must have
been God. But to say that Jesus was God is to go against what these very authors
wrote. Although these authors had this later belief that Jesus is greater than all
creatures, they also believed that he was still lesser than God. In fact, John
quotes Jesus as saying: “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28). And Paul declares that the head of every woman is her husband, the head of every man is
Christ, and the head of Christ is God (see 1 Corinthians 11:3). Therefore, to find something in these writings and claim that these teach that Jesus is God is to misuse and misquote what those authors are saying. What they
wrote must be understood in the context of their belief that Jesus is a creature of
God as they have already clearly said. So we see then, that some
05/07/2012 4:28 PM: Out: Kool...can u give me some time to go through before i comment
05/07/2012 4:29 PM: Ola sodiq: Coming in a moment
05/07/2012 4:31 PM: Ola sodiq: Jesus performed many miraculous wonders, and he without doubt said a lot of wonderful things about himself. Some people use what he said and did as a
proof that he was God. But his original disciples who lived and walked with him,
and were eyewitnesses to what he said and did, never reached this conclusion. The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was lifted up to heaven. Throughout this
period they never refer to Jesus as God. They continually and consistently use
the title God to refer to someone else other than Jesus. Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed the crowd saying: “Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to
you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as
you yourselves know.” (Acts 2:22). It was God, therefore, who did the miracles through Jesus to convince people that Jesus was backed by God.
05/07/2012 4:34 PM: Ola sodiq: For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God. Peter said: “God raised up his servant...” (Acts 3:26). The title servant refers to Jesus. This is clear from a previous passage where Peter declared: “The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.” (Acts 3:13). Peter must have known that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob never spoke of a Triune God. They always spoke of God as the only God. Here, as in Matthew
12:18, Jesus is the servant of God. Matthew tells us that Jesus was the same
servant of God spoken of in Isaiah 42:1. So, according to Matthew and Peter,
Jesus is not God, but God’s servant. The Old Testament repeatedly says that God
is alone (e.g. Isaiah 45:5). All of the disciples of Jesus held this view. In Acts 4:24 we are told that the believers prayed to God saying: “...they raised their voices together in prayer to God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the
sea, and everything in them.’”it is clear who de wia praying to
05/07/2012 4:36 PM: Ola sodiq: Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. The Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not all-knowing, since he had
some limitations. Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any powerful work in his hometown except few things: “He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.” (Mark 6:5). Mark also tells us that when Jesus tried to heal a certain blind man, the man was not healed after the
first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26). Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus, we need to understand that he is not the all-powerful God. Mark’s Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his knowledge. In Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not know when the last day will
occur, but the Father alone knows that (see also Matthew 24:36). Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God.
05/07/2012 4:37 PM: Ola sodiq: Another example for the limited knowledge of Jesus is the fig tree episode in the Gospels. Mark tells us as follows: “The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to
find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves,
because it was not the season for figs.” (Mark 11:12-13). It is clear from these verses that the knowledge of Jesus was limited on two counts. First, he did not know that the tree had no fruit until he came to it.
Second, he did not know that it was not the right season to expect figs on trees. Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and He is God from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2). Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God
does not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6. Jesus never was God, and never will be.
05/07/2012 4:38 PM: Ola sodiq: Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10). The Bible clearly shows that Jesus was not all-powerful and all-knowing as the true God should be.
05/07/2012 4:38 PM: Ola sodiq: Comment
05/07/2012 4:42 PM: Ola sodiq: The Greatest Commandment in the Bible and the Quran:
05/07/2012 4:42 PM: Ola sodiq: U there??
05/07/2012 4:43 PM: Ola sodiq: Comment on these before i proceed with the greatest commandment of all,which jesus practised and urged others to to gain eternal life
05/07/2012 4:43 PM: Ola sodiq: Comment please......
05/07/2012 4:45 PM: Ola sodiq: Waiting....
05/07/2012 4:45 PM: Ola sodiq: I want to type more
05/07/2012 4:45 PM: Ola sodiq: I need ur comments on these first before i proceed
05/07/2012 4:53 PM: Ola sodiq: Do not run away my dear lost brother,the bible is my sledge hammer i am using in debunking ur lies
05/07/2012 4:53 PM: Ola sodiq: All of it are not my sayings but of the lord .....hahahahah
05/07/2012 4:55 PM: Out: D
05/07/2012 4:55 PM: Out: Do u read the scripture before written?
05/07/2012 4:55 PM: Ola sodiq: What about it
05/07/2012 4:58 PM: Ola sodiq: U might say that this whole discussion over the divinity of Jesus is unnecessary. U might also say, the important thing is to accept Jesus as your personal
savior. On the contrary, the Bible’s writers stressed that, in order to be saved, it
is necessary to understand who exactly is God. Failure to understand this would
be to violate the first and greatest of all the commandments in the Bible. This
commandment was emphasized by Jesus, on whom be peace, when a teacher of
the Law of Moses asked him: “‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’ ‘The most important one,’ answered Jesus, ‘is this: Hear, O Israel, the
Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and
with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’” (Mark 12:28-30). Notice that Jesus was quoting the first commandment from the book of Deuteronomy 6:4-5. Jesus confirmed not only that this commandment is still
valid, but also that it is the most important of all the commandments,
05/07/2012 4:59 PM: Ola sodiq: If Jesus
thought that he himself is God, why did not he say so? Instead, he stressed that
God is one. The man who questioned Jesus understood this, and what the man
says next makes it clear that God is not Jesus, for he said to Jesus: “‘Well said, teacher,’ the man replied. ‘You are right in saying that God is one and there is no
other but him.’” (Mark 12:32). Now if Jesus was God, he would have told the man so. Instead, he let the man refer to God as someone other than Jesus, and he even saw that the man
had spoken wisely: “When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, ‘You are not far from the kingdom of God.’” (Mark 12:34). If Jesus knew that God is a trinity, why did not he say so? Why did not he say that God is one in
three, or three in one? Instead, he declared that God is one. True imitators of
Jesus will imitate him also in this declaration of God’s oneness. They will not add
the word three where Jesus never said it.
05/07/2012 5:01 PM: Ola sodiq: Does salvation depend on this commandment? Yes, says the Bible! Jesus made this clear when another man approached Jesus to learn from him (see
Mark 10:17-29). The man fell on his knees and said to Jesus: “Good teacher,
what must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus replied: “Why do you call me good?
No one is good — except God alone.” (Mark 10:17-18). By so saying, Jesus made a clear distinction between himself and God. Then he proceeded with the answer to the man’s question about how to get salvation.
Jesus told him:“If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17, also see Mark 10:19).
05/07/2012 5:05 PM: Ola sodiq: By so saying, Jesus made a clear distinction between himself and God. Then he proceeded with the answer to the man’s question about how to get salvation.
Jesus told him:“If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17, also see Mark 10:19). Remember that the most important of all the commandments, according to Jesus, is to know God as the only God. Jesus further emphasized this in the
Gospel According to John. In John 17:1, Jesus lifted his eyes to heaven and
prayed, addressing God as Father. Then in verse three, he said to God as follows: “Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus
Christ, whom you have sent.” (John 17:3).
05/07/2012 5:06 PM: Out: While i don't cot or read scripture but see scripture b/4 i say it. Bear in mind that the letter killed why the spirit give Life.... Do u read the scripture before coting them, i mean full chapel to understand what is talking about!
05/07/2012 5:08 PM: Ola sodiq: What logic re u trying to imply now??re de not quoted from ur same biblemust u quote whole chapter??did u quote whole chapter for me or verses?

[quote author=Bélla3]Tellin u an angel wil visit u wen he has no personal relationship wit God shows he is a F O O L.[/quote]hehehehehehehehe..... But thats not really the point,i challenged his core belief...The Divinity Of Jesus..... If u think u have relationship with God,or know anyone that does,let him/her command the angels to my abode,to prove the power of jesus.....

toba: good for you.

But do realize that there are some fundamental errors in islam?

like?

below is the first half of our conversation...
P.S...forgive most grammars..hehehehe...typographic poo...
OUT is his displayed name in my phonebook.....


05/07/2012 6:41 AM: Ola sodiq: Good day
05/07/2012 7:32 AM: Out: How are you?
05/07/2012 7:42 AM: Ola sodiq: I am not fine
05/07/2012 7:43 AM: Ola sodiq: U disappointed me
05/07/2012 7:45 AM: Out: Listing no body can disappoint you than yourself.
05/07/2012 7:46 AM: Ola sodiq: Dont tell me that?
05/07/2012 7:46 AM: Ola sodiq: U gave me hope
05/07/2012 7:46 AM: Ola sodiq: I believef
05/07/2012 7:46 AM: Ola sodiq: I believed u were interested in my future
05/07/2012 7:47 AM: Ola sodiq: All i needed was some money from u,u assured me,i struggled to raise some myself,and in the end u disappointed me
05/07/2012 7:47 AM: Ola sodiq: So dont tell me nobody can disappoint anybody
05/07/2012 7:48 AM: Out: i don't hold ur future in my hand it's in the hands of God.
05/07/2012 7:49 AM: Ola sodiq: I never u held my future...but u could assist in helping me get there
05/07/2012 7:49 AM: Ola sodiq: I never said u held my future
05/07/2012 7:49 AM: Ola sodiq: My future is in my hands
05/07/2012 7:50 AM: Ola sodiq: But u never acted like u care about ur family
05/07/2012 7:51 AM: Out: If only u can think u will see that u can do it without anyone help, what ever any body give u will only serve as blessing to u.s.
05/07/2012 7:52 AM: Ola sodiq: U can never do it alone.......everybody needs help
05/07/2012 7:52 AM: Out: When you talk about family i do more than any human being can
05/07/2012 7:52 AM: Ola sodiq: Even the most successful persons on earth today depended on some people
05/07/2012 7:52 AM: Ola sodiq: U dont care about ur family
05/07/2012 7:53 AM: Out: That is why u will never get anywhere in life
05/07/2012 7:53 AM: Out: Seen all ur hope is on human help
05/07/2012 7:53 AM: Ola sodiq: I will get definitely get higher than u think
05/07/2012 7:54 AM: Out: God is the only one that can help u
05/07/2012 7:54 AM: Ola sodiq: U can u can get anywhere without help?stop deceiving urself
05/07/2012 7:54 AM: Ola sodiq: God can not help u physically,,,somebody has to
05/07/2012 7:54 AM: Ola sodiq: God will direct somebody to help u
05/07/2012 7:54 AM: Ola sodiq: So u need somebody
05/07/2012 7:55 AM: Out: And God can help when ur not meek.humble and fear him
05/07/2012 7:55 AM: Ola sodiq: Saliu is working today,it was help rendered to him by someone
05/07/2012 7:55 AM: Ola sodiq: Do atheist fear God
05/07/2012 7:56 AM: Ola sodiq: Bill gate does not believe in God,yet he's successful
05/07/2012 7:56 AM: Ola sodiq: Atheist are successful people than christians
05/07/2012 7:57 AM: Ola sodiq: U cant survive without working,if u depend on God or miracles u are doomed
05/07/2012 7:58 AM: Ola sodiq: that is the problem with Most christians.....God God God
05/07/2012 7:58 AM: Out: I believe at this point this conversation will end here. Cos i will only attend to people how fear and respect God cos He has been supplying all my need.
05/07/2012 7:58 AM: Ola sodiq: U dont no God
05/07/2012 7:59 AM: Ola sodiq: U think i cant make it....i will disappoint u real soon
05/07/2012 7:59 AM: Ola sodiq: Allah is sufficient for me
05/07/2012 8:00 AM: Out: When you truly need help seek ye first the kingdom of God and all that u will ever need will be given to u.s.
05/07/2012 8:00 AM: Ola sodiq: Loll....stop deceiving urself.....
05/07/2012 8:00 AM: Ola sodiq: Like i told u atheist dont no God yet all things are theirs
05/07/2012 8:01 AM: Ola sodiq: Hardwork will get u where u are..... reward for worshing God is hereafter
05/07/2012 8:03 AM: Out: If ur Allah is sufficient for u, ur not suppose to be having need or can't he do anything he's just like an idol god that can talk,walk,speak even stretch his hand......oh no I'm sorry for u.
05/07/2012 8:03 AM: Ola sodiq: I am not surprised at ur responses
05/07/2012 8:03 AM: Ola sodiq: Arent there succesful muslims?
05/07/2012 8:04 AM: Ola sodiq: So it jesus that can work stretch abi
05/07/2012 8:04 AM: Out: Hard work can take u to a high but God is the only one that can keep u there forever even when ur at sleep
05/07/2012 8:04 AM: Ola sodiq: Ur truly astray......why would ur god kill his son to forgive...if truly he is merciful
05/07/2012 8:04 AM: Ola sodiq: Make research about atheist
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Ola sodiq: Bill gate is where he is today
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Ola sodiq: He doesnt believe in ur jesus
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Out: Go and become one
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Ola sodiq: What will happen to moses
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Ola sodiq: Abraham
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Ola sodiq: David
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Out: And stop begging
05/07/2012 8:05 AM: Ola sodiq: De never believed in ur jesus
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Ola sodiq: I am not begging u miserable fool
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Out: Since u have all this knowledge where are u now.
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Ola sodiq: I am going to my destination
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Ola sodiq: What ve u achieved
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Ola sodiq: ?
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Ola sodiq: U are a looser
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Ola sodiq: Lazy bigot
05/07/2012 8:06 AM: Out: Because i know that if u know better u will not be were ur
05/07/2012 8:07 AM: Ola sodiq: What do u no?
05/07/2012 8:07 AM: Ola sodiq: Tell me
05/07/2012 8:07 AM: Ola sodiq: That jesus died for u
05/07/2012 8:07 AM: Ola sodiq: I shake my head for u
05/07/2012 8:07 AM: Ola sodiq: R bible that is so full of contradiction ant fables
05/07/2012 8:07 AM: Ola sodiq: Lies
05/07/2012 8:08 AM: Ola sodiq: Ur bible that can not stand the test of time....
05/07/2012 8:08 AM: Ola sodiq: Scientifically inaccurate,
05/07/2012 8:08 AM: Ola sodiq: Historically contradictory
05/07/2012 8:09 AM: Ola sodiq: Rubbish garbage full of thrash
05/07/2012 8:09 AM: Ola sodiq: Even ur bible contradicted the belif of ressurection
05/07/2012 8:09 AM: Ola sodiq: Nobody can die for u
05/07/2012 8:10 AM: Ola sodiq: Ur god tha is so perfect,so ominipotent,regreted after creating man in his own image....God regreting?
05/07/2012 8:13 AM: Out: Is that all.... But I'm a testimony that Christ is still alive. Jesus love u and will forgive u only if u will accept Him as ur lord and personal savour.... Come to Christ and u will never be thesame.
05/07/2012 8:15 AM: Ola sodiq: I dont need to come to ur alleged son of god...i am with God the creator
05/07/2012 8:16 AM: Ola sodiq: I laugh at uuuuuuu
05/07/2012 8:16 AM: Ola sodiq: Christianty has been debunked...
05/07/2012 8:19 AM: Ola sodiq: Ur bible debunked that belief......
05/07/2012 8:19 AM: Ola sodiq: Jesus never died for any body.........
05/07/2012 8:20 AM: Ola sodiq: Ur god is vewi wicked if he punishes me for the sins adam and eve committed
05/07/2012 8:21 AM: Ola sodiq: U c.......my God can never punish me for sins of my father
05/07/2012 8:30 AM: Out: Give ur life to Christ Jesus and ur life will never be the same... He is the only true door to heaven and also to all ur need here on earth.
05/07/2012 8:31 AM: Ola sodiq: U said true door to heaven??
05/07/2012 8:31 AM: Ola sodiq: Which door will moses and his people take to heaven
05/07/2012 8:31 AM: Out: Jesus love you and he's ready to forgive u all ur sin... Come to Him now
05/07/2012 8:31 AM: Ola sodiq: Which door will abraham and his people take to heaven??
05/07/2012 8:32 AM: Ola sodiq: Which door will solomon and david take to heavenn
05/07/2012 8:32 AM: Ola sodiq: I guess de will all use the window
05/07/2012 8:32 AM: Ola sodiq: I rather follow their road...in believing in the superiority and oneness of God alone
05/07/2012 8:33 AM: Ola sodiq: I believe in the oneness of GOD
05/07/2012 8:33 AM: Ola sodiq: Jesus can never save he siad so himself,he cannot forgive
05/07/2012 8:34 AM: Ola sodiq: Stop wallowing in deciet and ignorance
05/07/2012 8:34 AM: Out: Tell me can ur yesterday feed ur today and tomorrow turn ur back and come to daddy now as the prodigal son did..
05/07/2012 8:36 AM: Ola sodiq: Answer my question na??u said jesus is the only way to heaven abiwhich way did abraham,david,solomon,moses and host of others take to heaven
05/07/2012 8:36 AM: Ola sodiq: Just answer my little question
05/07/2012 8:42 AM: Ola sodiq: Which way
05/07/2012 8:43 AM: Ola sodiq: If de passed without jesus door i can pass too 
05/07/2012 8:43 AM: Ola sodiq: So which way since ur bible said jesus is the only WAY
05/07/2012 8:44 AM: Ola sodiq: Guess ur bible forgot there were generations beforw jesus....ur bible lies.....hahahahahahahahahahahah
05/07/2012 8:45 AM: Out: "Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. " (John 14:5-7).
05/07/2012 8:51 AM: Ola sodiq: U ve not answered my question yet.....i am not talking about thomas...i am not arguing the fact that jesus is the way,i asked about abraham,moses,david,solomon.....which way did de go throughor are they in hell?
05/07/2012 8:51 AM: Ola sodiq: Just answer that and stop beating around the bush
05/07/2012 8:52 AM: Ola sodiq: WhIch way ?
05/07/2012 8:55 AM: Out: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. " (John 10:1-9).
05/07/2012 8:57 AM: Out: "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. " (John 10:10-17).
05/07/2012 8:58 AM: Out: "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father." (John 10:18).
05/07/2012 8:59 AM: Out: 
05/07/2012 9:03 AM: Out: Hello
05/07/2012 9:07 AM: Out: Can you see the hand work of God.
05/07/2012 9:08 AM: Out: <media omitted>
05/07/2012 9:08 AM: Out: Send me mumy and daddy picture ok
05/07/2012 9:08 AM: Out: If you still have any question please ask
05/07/2012 9:18 AM: Ola sodiq: I asked u a question and ur showing me pictures......
05/07/2012 9:18 AM: Ola sodiq: I still have questions
05/07/2012 9:19 AM: Ola sodiq: Which way did moses,abraham,noah,david, and solomon go through...since de never believed in jesus.....?
05/07/2012 9:19 AM: Ola sodiq: Which way??
05/07/2012 9:56 AM: Out: "Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. " (John 8:52-58).
05/07/2012 9:56 AM: Out: None of this are my word but from the holy scripture
05/07/2012 10:25 AM: Ola sodiq: The questions still remains....which way did de follow
05/07/2012 10:26 AM: Ola sodiq: Stop beating around the bushhhh
05/07/2012 10:26 AM: Ola sodiq: Did de beliee
05/07/2012 10:26 AM: Ola sodiq: Believe in jesus
05/07/2012 10:26 AM: Ola sodiq: Ahahahahahhahah
05/07/2012 10:56 AM: Out: Yes of cos they do believe in Him
05/07/2012 10:57 AM: Out: And through Him they go to heaven
05/07/2012 11:21 AM: Ola sodiq: Show me where in the bible de believed in him....
05/07/2012 11:22 AM: Ola sodiq: If u cant proof it then ur a liar...ur bible is full of lies...
05/07/2012 11:22 AM: Ola sodiq: Ts a challenge proof it where noah believed in jesus...
05/07/2012 1:10 PM: Ola sodiq: Hahahahaah u ve abscounded
05/07/2012 1:10 PM: Ola sodiq: Ahahahahahahah
05/07/2012 1:18 PM: Ola sodiq: U dare say Allah is an idol??i guess jesus worshiped idol when he prostrated and worship d same idol abraham,moses,aoron,noah,david,solomon and all muslims prostrates and worship??
05/07/2012 1:20 PM: Ola sodiq: Every single act of worship in the islamic faith is confirmed in the bible,what God wanted is (worship and acknowledging his uniqueness and monothesitic attributes)
05/07/2012 1:22 PM: Ola sodiq: Atleast academically and phycologically i am superior to uuuuu.gift from Allah 
05/07/2012 1:23 PM: Ola sodiq: I worship not Allah not because i want him to bless me,or because i am afraid of the hell....i worship Allah cos i love to do his will willingly......(worship)(prostration)
05/07/2012 1:25 PM: Ola sodiq: Show me once again a verse where moses,aoron,abraham,david,solomon...etc worshipped jesus,or followed him??search ur bible thoroughly,scrutinize every verse...hahahahahahahah...i am waiting......lost fooooooooooollll
05/07/2012 1:30 PM: Out: From the first man Adam to the last prophets till now worship no but God through Jesus Christ.... Am going to prove it biblical not by my word...
05/07/2012 1:46 PM: Ola sodiq: Waiting for ur proves now adam,noah,worshiped God through jesus......
05/07/2012 1:52 PM: Ola sodiq: And i will proof to u biblically that even jesus worshiped God
05/07/2012 3:17 PM: Out: "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:5-11).
05/07/2012 3:18 PM: Ola sodiq: And how does this thrash answer my questions?
05/07/2012 3:19 PM: Out: Now i will clear you how Christ has been on earth before Adam...secondly how they worship God through him
05/07/2012 3:19 PM: Ola sodiq: Eargely Waiting
05/07/2012 3:35 PM: Out: First of all what is the meaning said?
05/07/2012 3:35 PM: Ola sodiq: Stop playing hide and seek
05/07/2012 3:35 PM: Ola sodiq: Show me the verses
05/07/2012 3:39 PM: Ola sodiq: Jesus said in Matthew 4:10, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve." jesus own wordings
05/07/2012 3:40 PM: Out: Do you agree with me that say means: to pronounce word. Why said means: the past participle of say.
05/07/2012 3:41 PM: Ola sodiq: Hahahahahahahahah
05/07/2012 3:41 PM: Ola sodiq: What re u driving at
05/07/2012 3:42 PM: Out: Do you agree to this definition
05/07/2012 3:42 PM: Ola sodiq: Bring out ur proofs let me contradict u with ur own bible
05/07/2012 3:42 PM: Ola sodiq: Wat has say or said got to do witn my question?ehhhhh
05/07/2012 3:43 PM: Out: If your ready then answer me...
05/07/2012 3:44 PM: Ola sodiq: Now u want to dodge with this cheap game
05/07/2012 3:44 PM: Ola sodiq: I laugh at uuuu
05/07/2012 3:44 PM: Ola sodiq: Delusion at its peak
05/07/2012 3:45 PM: Out: U don't no it just say so
05/07/2012 3:45 PM: Ola sodiq: I can look up the meaning of any word i find challenging in the dictionary
05/07/2012 3:46 PM: Ola sodiq: how does say or said correlate with our discussion
05/07/2012 3:46 PM: Out: Then do u agree with the definition professor
05/07/2012 3:47 PM: Ola sodiq: I wasn't arguing with ur said definition
05/07/2012 3:47 PM: Out: Good
05/07/2012 3:47 PM: Ola sodiq: So
05/07/2012 3:48 PM: Out: Hope u have ur bible there with you all u will like me to type it to you
05/07/2012 3:49 PM: Ola sodiq: Whats stoping u from typing?
05/07/2012 3:49 PM: Out: Glory be to His Name Oh most high
05/07/2012 3:50 PM: Ola sodiq: How did abraham,moses,david worship jesus?
05/07/2012 3:53 PM: Out: Just hold on till i say u should comment... Can you do that so i can type
05/07/2012 3:53 PM: Ola sodiq: K
05/07/2012 3:53 PM: Out: "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." (Genesis 1:3).
05/07/2012 3:54 PM: Out: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (Genesis 1:26).
05/07/2012 3:56 PM: Out: "And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth." (Genesis 6:13).
05/07/2012 3:57 PM: Out: "After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward." (Genesis 15:1).
05/07/2012 3:58 PM: Out: "And Aaron spake all the words which the LORD had spoken unto Moses, and did the signs in the sight of the people." (Exodus 4:30).
05/07/2012 4:01 PM: Out: "And Joshua said unto the children of Israel, Come hither, and hear the words of the LORD your God. And Joshua said, Hereby ye shall know that the living God is among you, and that he will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Hivites, and the Perizzites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Jebusites." (Joshua 3:9-10).
05/07/2012 4:02 PM: Out: Now i will like to know if you do agree with this words...first
05/07/2012 4:03 PM: Out: Comment

okeyxyz: So.., where's the conversation nah??

patience brother.........

InesQor: LOL!

Let's agree to disagree. Cos I don't know where to start in replying the above.

u can start from anywhere.....hehehehehehehehehe

i believe traffic dont delay angels?i have been waiting patiently with my camera,pen and paper for the holy spirit he promised would visit me tonight.....hmmmmmmm,the weather is clear,save for few drops of rain drops.....holy spirit,hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe...hope say una no de chop?cos frankly i no sabi cook o.....hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

My name is olanrewaju sodiq.....what i am about to reveal is strictly personal,but i believe it might be a shinning light to some..
Viewers discretion is advised,foul and insultive words are hauled at each other.....
This is a conversation between me and my prosperity brother(as i choose to call him) on whatsapp.....everything i will post is the unadulterated conversations between us...
He challenged me,that by the end of this month i will come crying to his master jesus...(very funny,heheheheheheheheheheheheh)and i challenged him too,by his own words,that he sends angels on errands by the authority of jesus...i asked for a simple conviction which he failed to prove.i challenged him to send just one angel to me,that at the sight of the angel i will become a christian,with everything in me(which we both know is practically impossible)....
Funny enough his story is that of paul,full of contradiction.....i challenged his very core beliefs,which is the divinity of jesus,and salvation...(i kinda borrowed thor's hammer in sidelining him,it is evident from his posts that he knew the truth,but would rather wallow in deceit )..
I am sharing this conversation to all,read without biase and prejudice,and deduce your facts....as a christian reading this little fire works,your faith will wither(if you have a mind of your own)....as a muslim reading this u will smile and exclaim(allahu akbar),and as an atheist reading this,two things are evident.
1. You might want to compound the christians shaky and confused faith.
2.you might want to attack the muslims and exalt your atheistic belief....
Whichever category you fall into...feel free to drop,comments,haul insults and make recommendations where necessary.........
P.S...please forgive most of my typographic errors,was typing with a mobile phone...

tobechi74: Am speachles

why?

My name is olanrewaju sodiq.....what i am about to reveal is strictly personal,but i believe it might be a shinning light to some..
Viewers discretion is advised,foul and insultive words are hauled at each other.....
This is a conversation between me and my prosperity brother(as i choose to call him) on whatsapp.....everything i will post is the undiluted conversation between us...
He challenged me,that by the end of this month i will come crying to his master jesus...(very funny,heheheheheheheheheheheheh)and i challenged him too,by his own words,that he sends angels on errands by the authority of jesus...i asked for a simple conviction which he failed to prove.i challenged him to send just one angel to me,that at the sight of the angel i will become a christian,with everything in me(which we both know is practically impossible)....
Funny enough his story is that of paul,full of contradiction.....i challenged his very core beliefs,which is the divinity of jesus,and salvation...(i kinda borrowed thor's hammer in sidelining him,it is evident from his posts that he knew the truth,but would rather wallow in deceit )..
I am sharing this conversation to all,read without biase and prejudice,and deduce your facts....as a christian reading this little fire works,your faith will wither(if you have a mind of your own)....as a muslim reading this u will smile and exclaim(allahu akbar),and as an atheist reading this,two things are evident.
1. You might want to compound the christians shaky and confused faith.
2.you might want to attack the muslims and exalt your atheistic belief....
Whichever category you fall into...feel free to drop,comments,haul insults and make recommendations where necessary.........
P.S...please forgive most of my typographic errors,was typing with a mobile phone...