MacDaddy01:


I think christian or atheist husband is in place for Fellis

like they are any better.

MacDaddy01:

So, you indirectly agree that there is a specific time for wife beating even though it is quite redundant!


Maclatunji, why are you shamed that I exposed some of the muslism here for what they are

there's a difference between assault and correctional Yoruba//akanti/slap
i am not advocating muhammad Ali's style... hehehehehehehehehe
but a slap is more than enough

MacDaddy01:

DIVORCE!


Is that not the end result? You want me to turn Muhammad Ali on her and give her black eyes?

and how have you made her better?
she will still continue in her trend of disobedience. i thought marriage is an institution.

fellis:
I simply can't believe what I am reading.

would you be surprise if i slap my wife after several admonition? huh

MacDaddy01:

If I have problems with my wife, the solution is simple- I talk to her and if she doesnt listen, I talk to her family and if there is no progress, I stay away for some days.

and if she doesnt listen after staying away?

MacDaddy01:


You know, this is getting nowhere.


I would like you to see what your muslimahs are saying here on this thread since common sense is not working with you.

common sense is not common after all. i see yours is not common.

MacDaddy01:


You might want to rethink that. There is no alpha when a gun is involved or your gbola is being dismembered in your sleep.


However, a slap would even worsen the case. You think she will like you and behave after beating her

when she knows you have been patient and tolerant enough, and she knew she deserved it. why not

MacDaddy01:


You might want to rethink that. There is no alpha when a gun is involved or your gbola is being dismembered in your sleep.

why would she carry a gun cos of a slap she deserved?

MacDaddy01:


no one is saying that. What rational people are saying is that there are better ways to solve the issue. Communication or separation.

this is the part women love the most.after separation and it doesn't work nko? haven't you heard or read the story of an Indian man that refused coming down a tree he willfully climbed cos he caught his wife with another on their matrimonial bed.guess what
the said wife is adamant.she aint apologizing.

MacDaddy01:
What about a dishonest and disobedient husband? The wife should beat him too?

if she has the strength she can go ahead.

MacDaddy01:

Lol....unfortunately for people like you, that is [b]assault [/b]in many developed countries. You do not settle disagreements with violence.

Its a good thing that some women take karate classes and keep guns. When the woman shoots you or hits you back, she wont go to jail because it would be seen as self defense.

so after many failed attempts to bring her to her senses i hit her,its considered Assault abi?
unfortunately for people like you.this is Discipline.
why would a man want to hit the wife if she is not being bad?huh

MacDaddy01:


Wow! Where did you get that from?


How do I encourage indiscipline in matrimony? Just because I wouldnt beat my wife? So an adult woman needs discipline in your version of islam? lolol

If I have problems with my wife, the solution is simple- I talk to her and if she doesnt listen, I talk to her family and if there is no progress, I stay away for some days.

and if there is no progress?


Why should I beat a woman like a child?[/quote]
now i never said that... i wouldn't beat up my wife,but i wont hesitate to slap her cheek/hand/leg if the need be.
but punch,or kick her no way.

zayhal: ^and you shouldn't mind been hit back by her.

Allah made man an Alpha for a reason... (a mild slap would do d magic)

fellis:
Where did I make such a comment?

considering the fact you are woman,i am not surprised at most of your posts

fellis:
You are getting unnecessarily defensive, calm down. It is not proper for a wife to constantly annoy her husband but if she does, I believe there are better ways to correct her than by using physical assault.

like i said in my previous post after several admonition, if she persists in being disobedient and disrespectful,then i see no wrong in hitting her.

joe4christ:

Just listen to yourself, have you got brain at all?

BRAIN=YES
FUNCTIONING= SUPER YES

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ME?

MacDaddy01:


The bolded?

Isnt it shameful that a muslim can actaully say that there is a specific time that a man can beat his wife?

ISN'T IT SHAMEFUL THAT AN ATHEIST ENCOURAGES INDISCIPLINE IN MATRIMONY?

fellis:
You think there is nothing wrong with a man hitting his wife?

AND YOU THINK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A WIFE DISOBEYING/CONSTANTLY ANNOYING THE HUSBAND?

Zhul-fiqar:


Aside from that translation,Ayatollah Misbah Yazdi is also of the view that the word "wa-adribuhunna" means "to separate" and not "to strike/beat".this is well grounded in the hadith where the Prophet (s) said "strike them with hunger and na-kedness".that is the intent of "separation".

But if I may ask,what is wrong with an upright man hitting a wife that is bringing shame to the house after warning her and even separating bed from her? What would you do? What is the better alternative? Divorce? Or is it because the whiteman sees nothing wrong with flirting/adultery? In Islam adultery can be punishable with flogging/death.oyinbo don't have law against adultery.

logicboi where you @
answer the bolded

Reyginus: Just be quiet if you having nothing to offer.

Jesus could not perform miracles in his name.
the name jesus is ineffective and powerless. if you claim otherwise, i have a simple challenge.
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

the quran does not forbid Muslims t be friends with non-muslims.islam teaches us that we should be friendly to all people,islam also encourages us t dea justly and fairly with our enemies.in the beginning of the same chapter Allah Says..
[O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah as witnesses to fair dealings and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just, that is next to piety. Fear Allah, indeed Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.] (Al-Ma’dah 5:8.)
Moreover, Allah Almighty has described Prophet Muhammad as "a mercy" to the worlds. He was kind to the pagans of Makkah and fought them only when they fought him. He made treaties with the Jews of Madinah and honored the treaties until they broke them.
In the verse you quoted, the word "Awliya" is used. It is a plural and its singular is "wali". The correct translation of the word ""wali"" is not "friend" but it is someone who is very close and intimate. It is also used to mean "guardian, protector, patron, lord and master".

In the Qur'an this word is used for God, such as [Allah is the Protector (or Lord and Master) of those who believe. He takes them out from the depths of darkness to light…] (Al- Baqarah 2: 257)
The correct translation of the verse in Surat Al-Ma’idah is: [O you who believe! Do not take Jews and Christians as your patrons. They are patrons of their own people. He among you who will turn to them for patronage is one of them. Verily Allah guides not a people unjust.] (Al-Ma'dah 5: 51)
hope this will clear your misconception?

MacDaddy01: LagosShia, Justaqad, Fellis, Maclatunji and co;


I dontknow how you selectively read this person's story and missed the part where he mentioned;

-Wife beating that is clearly written in the quran (an then reduced to "tap lightly)

Wife beating anytime and for any reason is never allowed in Islam. There is however a questionable condition where Allah Almighty seems to allow the husband to beat his wife, and that is after he gives her two warnings to stop showing ill-conduct and disloyalty.

MacDaddy01:
-Taking of slaves as mentioned in Sahih Bukari

what about QURAN?

MacDaddy01:
-The disagreement between the Quranists and the people who use both Quran and sunni hadiths.

this is a weak reason.

Geewan:

I guess he doesn't have a bible.



YES

lol....
even Jesus could not perform miracles with his name........

Alhamdulilahi i am a muslim...
logicboi you are better than this.
seriously i dont see any logical reason why he left Islam.
abi i skip some paragraphs?
his excuses are so lame,even pope would discredit this story.hehehehehehehehehe

Reyginus: How exactly?

read phillipians 2:10

Reyginus: Dude, let's keep this simple. Is the name of jesus powerless?

YES

BetaThings:

In Islam, we pray to Allah. It matters ABSOLUTELY NOT what another person thinks about another unless he proves to you with evidence that you are not doing things correctly
We don't care what people in Saudi Arabia think about Muslims in Nigeria so long as we worship Allah correctly wiothout joing idol worship with our activities
No muslim is superior. No muslim can say that yes, I am going to Jannah and this person will end in hellfire
That is for Allah to decide
We can correct people individually based on practice. But we don't just condemn a group based on geography

i must confess you made sense... (hope we will mend fences?)
hehehehehehe

Anvaller:

Look there is no monopoly of understanding of Islam as a religion. Even the renowned islamic scholars argue amongst themselves on topical issues. My question to you, define Islam...
U are saying follow follow? of course no be we muslims dey do follow-follow pass? We do a lot of stuffs that are not in the actual sense Islamic but because majority of other muslims do them, we also do them, errm well, except me and a few others tho. There are more fundamental issues to be brought to the fore and discussed thoroughly other than Goldie or no Goldie... abeg.....

well done...

olawalebabs: There is a misconception about the practice of sharia in the country. The 'leader' only choose the penal aspect of the law, leaving out the social and economic aspect of the law. Sharia law goes beyond amputating and stoning of people, how many of them are giving out their zakat (right quantity and as at when due). May Allah guide us aright.

Rightly Noted......

MacDaddy01:


Anyone that calls you a munafiqh because I praised you is wrong.

Guilt by association is wrong.


The real munafiqh are not steady in their deen and that is why they are afraid of having atheist pals online!

Bitterthing is something else...

MacDaddy01:


What is your point? That sharia is not properly practiced in Nigeria? That only the small time crooks are punished while the big thieves are ;let scot-free?

The OP is self explanatory,but for clarity.
The Big thieves go unpunished...that's my point..
Sharia in the north is politicised.

MacDaddy01:


Yawn. Where is Justaqad to handle Betathings?

why u de call me na?
you wan make my fellow muslims brand me hypocrite again?

deols:

no u didnt. i did d pressing.

now, End of DiscussION

i did
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deols:

that is why you should ask questions before shaking your head lest they fall off

if i did not pres hard enough, you wouldn't have outlined your perceived ish with him. so next time be more elaborate
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehee