deols:

grow up jorh.


Now lemme tell u what about ami olohun.
if you see nollywood movies, a muslim cleric as represented is holding a big rosary, seeing the future, and using sands like idol worshippers do. They actually arent fictional about it, they are portraying the likes of this ami olohun.

funny enough they are also the richest kinds of muslim 'clerics' because many people deal with them like christians with their pastors. They tell people whom to marry and who not to. whether to go on a journey or not. In return for their fortune telling, they dont only get the beat of gifts but of intimate ones too, hence the 'lagos women' tag.

it is shameful and I'd want every Muslim know that and not fall into scam with these jinn-using other ami olohuns.

if this was your first post,there wouldn't have been issues with me.but citing 'lagos big women' alone, reeks of something else

deols: I just checked your previous post.

if your aim here is to find loopholes to fill, then you are on a wrong mission.

bomeeeeeeeeeeerang
and i found one in your post...
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe

where is the correlation between Badr and Today?
fyi Silence is betrayal.
btw you cant stop me from being a muslim.
you have failed

deols: I decided not to give up on you and give you enough chances to prove that my comment was based on having issues as a woman. The issue you couldnt prove while dilly dallying.


just dont bother next time and It isnt end of discussion from my side in case u are up to it.

of all the wrongs he may have committed, you singled that out.
atleast do justice outline why you think he is bad. not cos you heard he rolls with lagos big women.

i see you failed to correlate Battle of Badr to today......
not all Muslims are bloodthirsty like you.

BetaThings:

Hahahahaha
So judgemental as usual. Please stop pretending

smh

BetaThings:
Yes to some others. But clearly NOT to Muslims. Alhamdu li Llah, We know where guidance comes from

and what makes you think you know every muslim that visits NL? smh

BetaThings:
Ar least my Shayk's views are based his views on what we are commanded to do or not to do,not what we just believe might please the world
My brain is to be used to obey Allah not to contradict Him

can you please point out where i contradicted Allah? make good use of your brain.

BetaThings:

I can imagine a man who steals into another's house to kill being disarmed by his intended victim. With the gun pointed at the assassin he argues that it is wrong to take the life of another. He posits that he makes mistakes of taking lives, but he will not encourage others so to do

i see you have a thing for BLOOD....

BetaThings:
I don't need to follow you to remember the exchange we had.
Indeed there are people whose every post on NL I TRY to follow because they contain beneficial knowledge. That is the lesson from the hadith of the Musk seller and blacksmith.

if my post seem useless to you,it might be useful to another.

BetaThings:
BTW the "drug addict" never felt bad when his "addiction" was pointed out to him. He justified it
So much for a "Muslim"! We are now likening a social problem to the injunction to muslims not to sit with people who mock Allah and His Messenger (PBUH)

check yourself... you are so full of guilt

BetaThings:
So what then happened at Badr? So we should just throw verses of the Qur'an around even when there are clear commands on what to do in this case? We will not abandon clear guidance and practise Islam according to your desire.

and who is persecuting you physically?you are linking Badr to today.... btw
why was the war of Badr fought?

BetaThings:
You have been criticising Muslims for long here. You should know the people you criticise and the commands they obey. That should be the first step in the type of venture you have chosen to undertake

please stop using your Sheikh's brain. God gave you Brain for a reason. Use it.it will do humanity much good.

deols: and you find nothing wrong with it because?

you can do better than this....
EndOfDiscussion

deols: and what is yours with him

singling this out to discredit him.

deols:
Isn't he the small boy I heard now rolls with those Lagos big women? abi na lie?

BetaThings:

You always amaze me. You preach what you don't even practice

No human is perfect.. i make mistakes does not mean i will encourage it.

BetaThings:
You ask us to be patient with people who abuse our revered figures and waste our time
I have never known you to leave anything you perceive to be a slight or insult on YOUR PERSON unreplied

wow i never knew i got followers..feels good knowing.so if a drug addict advise you to shun drugs,you would discard his advice because he is an Addict?
smh

BetaThings:
Muslims don't do your strange "civility" and "maturity" where insults on Allah and His Prophet (PBUH) are concerned
They can stomach insults on their person

you amaze me.
example of the Prophet and his Companions,the greatest sources of Muslim normativity bear witness to their enduring the worst insults from the non-believers of his time. Not only was his message routinely rejected, but he was often chased out of town, cursed at, and physically assaulted on numerous occasions. But his example was always to endure all personal insults and attacks without retaliation of any sort. There is no doubt that, since the Prophet is our greatest example in this life, this should also be the reaction of all Muslims. As the Qur’an instrucus, “Be patient, as were the great prophets.”

BetaThings:
Thus your own practice is the opposite of what muslims are COMMANDED to do

and what are the command?

deols:

are you one of his followers?

NO..
heard of him on Nairaland

deols:
Posting that comment truly translates to having issues. You donno how much perplexed I was hearing of all the 'ami' he has been performing.

this is your ish with him bah?

deols:
Isn't he the small boy I heard now rolls with those Lagos big women? abi na lie?

deols: why are you telling us about him.




Isn't he the small boy I heard now rolls with those Lagos big women? abi na lie?


amin olohun indeed!

is that the only thing you heard about him?
hmmmmm.
women really got issues.
smh

isn't this supposed to be in the Celebrity Section?

Bélla3: Na lie johr... wetin... Kai na lie.

C u..... Mmam wu onye igbo...
Onye ajuju ane fu uzo....
Hehehehehehehehehehe

Bélla3: you mean your mum is igbo?

yex

Bélla3: NA God go punish you, for nt just insulting me, but the whole of igbo women

HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
DONT GET ME WRONG AUNTY BELLA
BUT ITS TRUE NA. MY MOM IS IGBO TOO OOOOOO...
NO OFENCE INTENDED.
APOLOGIES IF YOU FEEL OFFENDED

MacDaddy01:


Let say you meet me in real life and;


Scenario 1
I am a toilet cleaner in london who went back to Nigeria to continue selling electronics/spare parts in the market

Scenario 2
I am just a rich and funny ajebutter guy




What would you do?

TWO THINGS ARE INVOLVED.

IF BELLA IS IGBO.
SCENE 1..
WHEN SHE FINDS OUT UR JUST A CLEANER,SHE WIL REFER YOU TO HER NGBEKE FRIEND......
SCENE 2
RICH ALONE SUFFICES FORGET THE BUTTER... YOU DON MARRY BE THAT OOOO.

Pastor Kun:

If I were you I would rather spend my time in calling Muslims who are quick to resort to violence to order. These are the real people giving Islam a bad name and not someone like seun or myself who made very sincere comments even though you have decided to find faults with these comments. The fact remains that if a significant number of muslims are not quick to resort to violence over the slightest provocation, seun would not have made that statement in the first instance. The apology was probably to deter some of your brethen from resorting to threats and violence as is now the norm.

i believe you have acknowledged your mistake.good
i wont say there are no muslim extremist but generalizing is wrong.extremism is not rooted to any religion.

hadbak: I agree with Betathings. Weda U talk from now till tommorow dey will neva agree to d truth. Its obvious d OP is only hia to argue, mock n waste ur precios tym n not to seek knowledge or the truth. Besides, most of these has been delt with in other threads. If as a muslim u can not give urslf ans to the above ques then, u need an itensive islamiya. Igorant isn't an axcuse in Islam as searching for knowledge is compulsory on us..

the noble prophet Muhammad faced more serious troubles than we do. but he never gave up.
it is even noble after their rants and abuses we still engage them civilly and maturedly.
Allah knows best

BetaThings: Salaam, Brothers
Why do we waste our time responding to posts that are obviously designed to make us while away time in fruitless debate
Some words/expressions from some posts tell us the posters are interested in some strange amusement rather than information from us

if they dont learn countles others are learning daily.
so by ignoring and shying away from topics that concerns islam would only raise more questions

Asanlaye09: You are very stupid for asking that rhetorical question that does not deserve any answer or have you forgotten that Jesus was the son of carpenter.Prophet Mohammod(SAW)was the best of Mankind.Who is Jesus?ordinary servant of God.God name in arabic is ALLAH.PLs can you give me 20 good signs to show that those of you calling yourself Christian's are on the right path? Islam is the only religion. Read your Bible very well you will know that you are on the WRONG SIDE.Am waiting for your answer..

this is not the best answer/approach. he asked a question that obviously has an answer....
i agree there are trolls in Islam for muslim section, but most of the arguments and satisfactory answers from Muslims not only put them away but enlighten majority that view this section as guest.or (no comment users)
i urge all muslims to never let insult deter you from exposing falsehood.
Allah knows Best

Pastor Kun:

Thanx for this correction.

even you pastor kunu?
seun said this

seun:

There is no Christian and Atheist forum. We believe Christians and atheists can debate themselves without resorting to violence.

read again, you would understand why he apologized.

Obinoscopy: Point of correction at the bolded, he never generalized for all muslims. He said "a lot of muslims" and not "all muslims"

never be in a haste to type
seun said this

seun:

There is no Christian and Atheist forum. We believe Christians and atheists can debate themselves without resorting to violence.

read again, you would understand why he apologized.

Pastor Kun:

Instead of this comment you passed, I think you and all muslims should have a sober reflection and ask yourselves why Islam is associated with violence and what you can do to improve on the perception of Islam by non muslims. As it is now, it remains a fact that a lot of muslims are intolerant and resort to violence when they perceive anything negative is being said about their religion irrespective of whether it is true or false.

but i am not....
generalization is wrong..... (remember Rev king)

seun acted maturely by apologizing not just to me but to Muslims as well

MacDaddy01:

I thought you were my friend

come on dude..
sometimes you miss my jokes..
besides i didnt put it there,i only quoted it..
lol

interesting thread....
logicboi at 0....
hehehehehhehehehhehehehhehehehehhee

earn a degree like madam NOI or be skilled like Bill Gate,you will be fabulously rich beyond belief.

Seun:
That was not my intention. I'm very sorry for saying that.

APOLOGY ACCEPTED.

Snowwy:

Yes, Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to God!

you are abrogating the word of God.
it was never jesus.
IT HAS ONLY BEEN GOD

GraceBestowed:

That Jesus Christ is the only way ...

your bible states otherwise


Isaiah 45:21. “Tell you, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel
together: who has declared this
from ancient time? Who has
told it from that time? Have not
I the Lord? And there is no God
else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside
me.”

Seun:
There is no Christian and Atheist forum. We believe Christians and atheists can debate themselves without resorting to violence.

you just insulted Muslims......

GraceBestowed:

Lol, yes oh, the truth set me free!

what truth?