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Biola67:
LOL… no be me go reply you. We sabi you, no be today.

..chicken always come home to roost

fastseo:
Beneficiaries? How.
How has your post helped me? Because I source all my information from YouTube, and ukvi websites. I can never take any travel advice from you.

Yes you are one of the beneficiaries and you source information from the student visa thread for more than a year now.

Pennyseo2:
Be sympathetic to your fellow human . Anyone who left last year spent nothing less than 12m. You can't just leave it and start running back.

..and part of that 12M was spent on interest for the purchase of bank statement, you will have my sympathy if you are not aware of the financial requirements for studying in the UK, but in this case the cost of studying in the UK is clearly written everywhere but still people still cheat their way to CAS and visa application

Biola67:
Agreed. But nobody don gree come back MMIA lol

You will understand better when you come here with little or no money. If you have 20M right now in Nigeria don't risk it coming to the UK.

Think carefully what to do with your money. Basically if you don't have what it takes to study in the UK then don't waste the little you have.

fastseo:
Sorry to say this; You never see anything good in Nigerian students schooling in UK. You never acknowledged the important roles Nigerianns students plays to the UK economy. To you UK are doing Nigerians a favour.

That's what you come hard on any complaints they make on threads in nairaland

You are obviously writing this out of ignorant, even if you start today till the next 20yrs you will never come close to what i have contributed to Nigerian students studying in the UK.

When PSW was removed in 2012 till 2019 when Boris Johnson reintroduced it how did universities survived? Number of international students significantly reduced but still universities battle it out and they will do the same this time around.

I can't help if you are struggling to deal with the truth.

fastseo:
Imagine a University like Coventry getting over 42% of its total income from international student. Majorly from Nigerians and Indians student says alot.

There is nothing new here, they have been here before and managed to scale through. Read the last part of your screenshot for a clue.

thatthickgurl:
Oh my God.
Don’t you dare lie.

You didn’t engage me from page 1-3 . Please I hate lies. I was blocked when that page was still 1. I was so confused because I was trying to find out what I did wrong , I couldn’t reply to any of the mentions. Somebody from Diary section had to explain to me. I was still fresh on Nairaland then.

Please uncle , I did not ask for anybody’s contact, stop acting like you’re a good person.

justwise:
Yes i did explain to you that dropping contact details for people to contact you is not allowed. i engaged you and other people in that thread from page one of that thread to page 3 but you and others keep asking and dropping contact details then i have to ban you and others.

Sometimes its completely pointless trying to reason with some of you because you don't have it in you to be understanding/

Again you don't bother to read neither do you understand jack. All people like you care about is to throw insults right, left and centre.

thatthickgurl:
I want to apply for masters scholarships overseas in 2021 and I don't have a clue on where to start from.

It will be nice to connect with others who have the same ambition. We could create a group chat to motivate each other and share information.

If you're a beneficiary of a scholarship program, you could also join, so we learn from your insights and tutelage.

Please don't ignore. Thank you

justwise:
Did you start this thread to create whatsapp group or to have open discussion here?

thatthickgurl:
Anyone that's preferable

thatthickgurl:
Please if you want to be my partner in applying for scholarships
Send me your whatsapp contact
I need a more personal approach, this thread is not helping much

thatthickgurl:
Nothing to add to this current discussion but this particular moderator , that is his modus operandi. I remember how he blocked me from the travel section for 2 years. My offense? I was trying to find accountability partners to search for scholarships together , I didn’t create a group chat or anything.

Something a simple explanation would have sorted, he decided to flex muscle. Thank God Nairaland isn’t the only information platform, and even after he banned me , I still travelled out.

Fix up.

You can go ahead and delete this message too or ban me for 5 years , since you’re fond of that.

Yes i did explain to you that dropping contact details for people to contact you is not allowed. i engaged you and other people in that thread from page one of that thread to page 3 but you and others keep asking and dropping contact details then i have to ban you and others.

Sometimes its completely pointless trying to reason with some of you because you don't have it in you to be understanding/

fastseo:
Why is he opp hiding my post. You can see that all schools are in financial pressure in the UK. They fell short way below their target in January intake.. CAS issuance was down 60 to 70% and they likely projected this to happen September.
That's why most schools are now being hard towards student to pay up their fees to be able to pay staff and meet other financial obligations

Your previous 2-3 posts were hidden because you are spamming the thread with the same screenshots without adding a word

SleepingTablets:
@justwise

Tell @debieeeee , @naijalarry ,@NUELUSA etc to stop mentioning you when they are attacking individuals . All the ones they called you out for has resulted in you blocking the accounts of those individuals . We did not hear from @newboykashoggi , @arinzeaminuboys, @bagofsweets etc again because you have blocked their accounts. Now they are calling me NewBoyKashoggi .

If you re part of the moderators or Nairaland staffs so to say , i give respect to you but caution those aforementioned people to stop being aggressive towards any new comments. They will implicate u. Tell them to stop calling you out for aggressive action.

God Bless Nigeria .

If you don't stop your hyper drama attitude here this account will be gone as well. You are so intolerant of alternative opinion.

SleepingTablets:
@Debieeeee

Why is it that anyone that answers question is now NewBoyKashoggi ? I have being following all your antics and bashing of @newboykashoggi , bagof sweets etc. all of you cannot be on Nairaland for life your time is actually tickling.

Imagine , like 5 people bashing me @ago all because i wrote the truth. @JonhZak, @naijalarry, @debieeee @justwise . Nigerians are watching you. You have turned Nairaland into a family reunion. All your answers here are tailored towards your advantages and none of you have any US visas.

Nigerians should beware . Many many applicants you guys advice still came back as failures.


God Bless Nigerians .

I woke up this morning to see about 6 mentions all from you, you even reported me to Seun for some reasons i don't know.

Cut me out of you drama, i got no time for it.

TWoods:
As I suspected, much of what you read here are lies (I was very skeptical that a British school would treat such an important issue as tuition with no clear rules, allowing students to pay whenever they could), and the OP has no one but himself to blame for not reading the terms and conditions of his offer. Follow along...



There are a few things to note here...
1. The OP indicates that for September or January intake, students are NOW being asked to pay the remainder of their fees "in just 90 days". That means for a September intake, the due date would be the beginning of December and for a January intake would be the beginning of April.

2. The OP suggests that this is a bait and switch by the school, unfair, and takes away the voice or choice of the student.

THIS IS FALSE. The OP simply failed to read the terms and conditions for his admission. I had nothing to do this evening, so I took time to read through Northumbria University applicant terms and conditions from 2017 - 2024 (7 years)... EVERY SINGLE ONE has the lines below (note, the only changes over the years have been to the minimum deposit due):

Payment terms for all programmes (except Pre-sessional English Programmes): a minimum of £8,000
or 50% of the annual tuition fee (whichever is higher) is due on or before enrolment. Final Instalments are as follows:
• For entry to Term 1 the remaining fees for your programme should be paid by 1 December.
• For entry to Term 2 the remaining fees for your programme should be paid by 1 April.

In other words, the school never changed its payment terms at all. It simply never enforced it and allowed students to stretch payments well beyond the applicant terms in its policy document. Rather than a bait and switch, the school has simply decided to enforce its long-existing rules, that all students should have been aware of if they simply did the due diligence to read their terms and conditions. The OP failed to do so... instead, he relied on anecdotal reports from fellow students.

The school has not asked students to pay anything per month, it has simply asked students to pay what they implicitly agreed to when they opted to take the school's unconditional offer, paid their deposit, obtained a visa, and registered for classes. The school is not responsible for your inability to plan, or your duplicity. It is not obligated to extend its terms and conditions for you, because you were not truthful to yourself about your ability to fund your education.

The UK isn't Nigeria, where terms and conditions arent worth the paper they are written on. The OP is simply learning that lesson the hard way. A word is enough for the wise.

God bless you for this, I equally saw the terms and conditions on the school website. I guess the school decided to enforce it as many foreign students started defaulting on payment.

Zahra29:
Lol, you can choose to believe what you want. Doesn't make it true.

Perhaps one day you'll venture out of your bubble to other parts of the UK and hopefully broaden your experience, interactions and perspective.

You are asking for too much

studyless123:
So this will be my last post on this subject.
Glad you checked me out and profiled me using your elevated status.
What are your findings? That I'm assertive, have no friends or foes online and take nothing personal.

I'll give you a heads up, I'll be out in February and possibly back in March/April.
So bear with me for the next 10 days , we can always agree to disagree. Once I sign out of Nairaland I don't remember anything .
My only advise is for you to be open to divergent views and reduce your misuse of power .

@004gist
Please focus on your studies and don't get dragged and distracted online. Don't give up and I wish you the best.

Don't waste your time attempting to advise me as you are not in the list of people i take seriously here. Dude i know your activities here even with your deactivated IDs

Outstandingmam:
Mr, I'm not a naive Nigerian. I know what obtains. I've been traveling outside Nigeria for vacations as a secondary school student before I thought of going for higher studies so spare me that patronizing tone.

My issue with you and your likes is your huge empathy deficit. I always wished to join my voice to the threads that are opened to warn about unbridled desire to just leave Nigeria but the penchant to tag us as haters prevented me. Imagine how you came swinging into my comment? I don't like Internet arguments and I deliberately avoid them

Nigerians believe they can do anything and it's just not true. This OP and others like him made errors which they shouldn't make. The urge to game the system is in most Nigerians because we hardly follow the rules. I'm a stickler for rules but will I throw my child away because he broke the rules?

He has made his mistakes, he is stewing in it now, why do you think you need to turn the knife? What benefit is it to you? Or to him? Depression is real. I'm only being my brother's keeper pls.

UK as a japa route don cast. That's the basic truth. If you don't have the funds, forget about it. Yesterday I learned that a guy staying in an estate close to ours sold his 3 bedroom fine house for 40m (ordinarily, 60m is too cheap for such) to go to the UK because his wife got care job. They're back to Lagos now hiding from everybody. I can't imagine being in the same shoes with that family but I'm sure they were warned but refused to hear.

If You have travelled that much then i'm wondering why you are struggling to understand why i jumped in on the op.

The op did not make a mistake, he intentionally engaged in fraud to get a visa, The issue here is different from the example you gave.

When you are traveling to the UK the British govt made it clear how much you need to survive in the UK, many schools demanded for bank statement to make sure you have the money BEFORE they issued you a CAS.

You will not get a CAS or visa unless you have satisfied the school and the embassy that you are financially capable .

Now some 'smart' Nigerians will buy bank statement to send to the school to get CAS and then visa, they travel to the UK with little or no money.

When school demand for their money you start crying unfairness, going to tv stations to report the school, coming to platform like this to create false alarm.

Skynews and ITV have all carried news of Nigerian students reporting their schools to them.

The issue of people who sold all them have to japa is completely different from this particular issue.

studyless123:
I think you're taking this issue personal. Do you have any issues with the guy for calling out the school or are you an agent of the institution? You're begining to sound opinionated and unintelligent. If an attorney defends a criminal in court, does that make him a criminal?

Your posts reminded me of the issues I had with a British engineering company, after our agreements, one Nigerian guy sent a mail demanding for full payments for them to complete their design, his reason was that 2 Nigerian companies they worked for defaulted bla bla bla...that is something a German or American company will never do and that guy was eventually sacked from the company.

While the issues are different some of us understand the gimmicks of these British institutions and the funny thing is they use 3rd parties like you to execute shady deals. I will always expose such and that has been my point.

Please many students are already going through hard times, let's not make life harder for them. You may not understand what I'm talking about because I've always engage people...both local and foreigners.
I don't know how old you are but as you grow older you will have a more balanced view of life.

Over the period of 15yrs + here i get comment like that from supposedly educated folks here, yes i admit i sound unintelligent to uneducated and to those who struggled to comprehend simply logic.

I'm not a stranger to you with this ID or the other ID you deactivated.

AfahaAbia:
I was wondering about this too. [b]That guy is not telling the truth. After using borrowed blocked funds to get visa, he is now here crying foul!!! [/b]That is how allot of them will regret cheating the system. Desperation leads to biting your finger in regrets

No brainer! That is exactly why i can't stand thread like this, they will never tell naive Nigerians like Outstandingmam the truth but rather blame the school or Nigerian govt.

If you cheat willingly or not admit that then warn others not to do the same.

I will not encourage anyone to come to the UK for studies now unless you are coming for research program as the new immigration rules bit harder all thanks to Nigerian and Indian students specifically.

fullclub:
You called my mention... Hello and good morning.

Justwise is that kind of person that can't render finanacial assistance to anyone around. There was no unprintable name he didn't called me. Am sure he don't pick any of his relative calls from where he is.


Finally I have gotten a job and things are smoothening and I have gotten used to the system.I wil give another thread after my schooling

To all hustlers who want to change the narrative... We will all be alright, have the thick skin and keep pushing.

Post evidence to support that false claim, everything i said about you is out in the open, so quote that unprintable name i called you.

Now to other silly comment you made...my Nigerian bank account is like a payroll system, i look after my immediate and extended family and friends because they are my propriety.


Last words to you, make sure that the next thread you are going to start will warn prospective students not do cheat themselves during visa application, that is the only sort of thread i will support 100%

Outstandingmam:
Once again, like the OP said, go and sit down. You're a toxic individual who thinks too highly of himself and if nobody has told you before, I'm telling you now.

You're such a child. What's with the "you and your likes"? You know me from somewhere? Your clairvoyant powers told you I'm also seeking funds to pay fees? What ignorant arrogance envelops you when you see folks in dire straits come to sound a note of warning to others not to toe their paths? Shouldn't you be amplifying his warnings? What kicks do you get with the high sounding nonsense you always go on with? Kicking someone already down? He doesn't have the money. He's obviously trying to raise the money. What will you now do? Hang him or give him firing squad?

The guy is honest enough to realize what happened to him and he's empathetic enough to try to warn others. Give him a break biko.

you are obviously full of nonsense and its clearly written all over the bs you wrote here. I don't need a prophet to tell me the sort of individual you are and i will keep saying this.

You and your likes are enablers, the op will not get my sympathy because he did not see anything wrong in what he did. His actions were intentional. Again the school did nothing wrong.

This nonsense you are supporting has led to harsher visa rules for all foreign students, schools are now punishing even students who genuinely fall on the hard side financially.

I laughed when i read post from naive individuals like you attempting to insult me each time i speak against fraudulent characters like the op.

Over 15yrs i have helped countless numbers of Nigerians and non-Nigerians students with their visa issues both here and off nairaland without collecting a penny not even a gift from them and i have never met and refused to meet a single one of them when they get here.

You are not ashamed to admit that almost 90% students commit visa fraud and you expect the school to lenient.

Outstandingmam:
Mr moderator, go and rest like the OP told you.

You talk too much a lot of times and your toxicity is very grating. Are you not one of those who attack people who come to warn others about the pitfalls in the desperation of japa?

If you're used to fraud or brought up with fraud, not everyone has your experience. What's pinching you? The guy is already suffering the effects of his bad judgement and he's warning others, what exactly is killing you in that? He's warning people for goodness sakes.

You just talk down on anyone you see. What exactly is your problem?

You and your likes, you and many who only cry when they won stupid price for playing stupid game.

I will keep ringing this and i couldn't careless how you feel. The op is not warning anyone about japa, he is blaming the school for demanding for their money.

Where is the money he presented to the embassy during the visa application? That is the real issue here. If he has that money then he wouldn't have any prob with the school changing payment plan.

Outstandingmam:
What the oldies are doing to the OP is quite unfair. The guy only opened a thread to warn others not to fall into the trap. He isn't begging for money or whatever. It takes a lot for him to come out with his story and I think it's a service most should be grateful for.

The few times I come to this forum, I see a lot of people who try to warn others about the japa craze. They try to sound the alarm that not all is as it seems but they're tagged bad belle and enemies of progress who don't want others to get there or that they've failed at getting visas hence the hate. I've wanted to lend my voice to it but I don't have time or energy for Internet toxicity which is so rife on this forum.

You guys should pls give the guy a break. He didn't kill person. The UK that gives everyone Visa knows they need the money. They also know people will not have the money immediately otherwise, why not insist on full payment before they come? Of course they will lose customers that's why. You gave someone a repayment plan and you now change it in the middle of the game, haba!!

You 'established' japarians should chill pls. That's how when one poster called Funclub (or what's his name) opened a thread, using his real experience to ask guys to think twice about embarking on japa, they almost lynched him here.

OP, just try and hang in there. I pray for you to get a way out. I hope you break free soon.

Nigerian problem is not really the politicians, our problem is people like you and there are many of you hence the danger ahead.

You people will go to any length to defend fraudulent activities, you hate the truth because you are used to abusing the system, its normal for many of you to use backdoor to achieve your aims.

The op cheated to get a visa and now paying the price for his fraudulent act and many of you are here ignorantly defending him.

fastseo:
How many UK citizens de go school up to MSc
Enter their university you will understand that without Indians, Nigerians, Ghanaians, few Chinese are holding their university.

In my class no one British all are Nigerians except few Indians... No pure white

Many do, you did not see them because they hardly attend lowly ranked universities which is where you see many Nigerians and Asian students

004gist:
MVGv man...Coming to UK with 20 million is it empty hand. You winning like a baby.

The post is not directed at you rich kid....

The post was not directed to Nigerians who like you who have full 35 to 40million but to Nigerians who 70 it 50 pay% but would work and pay the rest..

Thousands have done it and thousands are still doing it across Europe with no default. Allow it to gently sink in your skl

20m is about £15K which is far less than what you need to study in the UK. Where is that money you presented to the embassy during the visa application? That is the point, you played yourself and now paying the price.

Jorussia:
I think its wrong to vilify u for something over 90% of Nigerian students in the UK is guilty of.

So if 90% of Nigerians commit the same crime what do you do? Encourage and feel sorry for them when reality catch up with them? Organise pity party for them because they are victim of their own fraud?

studyless123:
Well, I'm not in a position to speak for the OP and I also stated that I don't encourage unscrupulous activities. With my basic training in AML, I can easily tell a "baked" bank statement, the govt overlook some of these things but I won't go into all of that. Please keep sounding such warnings, that's highly appreciated.

But I'll share my experience with you. My brother and I decided to sponsor a relative to a football academy in the UK because of his talents. It was very expensive but we could easily afford it because I had a good paying job. My statement was used and he travelled. Unfortunately I was impacted by the tech layoffs in January of last year. With the payment plan we were still able to pull it off. Now tell me if the academy had change the payment plan, how will I be able to cope? Life happens and situations changes.
Like I stated earlier your warnings is appreciated.

The example you gave got nothing to do with this case.

This is case of fraud right from visa application, some Nigerians are not smart, Nigerian is hard no doubt but you put together the little you have and pay to the school and the embassy then came to the UK empty handed with no money to survive so as to benefit from all you have spent.


Running around for jobs, unable to attend lectures, no peace of mind and at the end you are likely to be sent home and your visa curtailed.

How foolish!!

004gist:
Oga go and rest when you left Nigeria did you have up to 30 million naira in your account.

I repeat go and rest. And stop quoting

I paid all my tuition fees before coming here even as it wasn't a requirement.

You really need to be naive to travel to any country for study with no money for fees and maintenance money

studyless123:
Please there's no need for accusations and don't pretend you're not aware this is a "standard" practice amoung the students so no need of pointing fingers. The embassy and the govt is aware but still issue the visas. It's not rocket science to know those statements are concorted.

While I don't encourage such acts, what he needs now is the ability to navigate his studies amidst the challenging situations.
People go to great lengths to leave the country sometimes against common sense but if our path cross I do my best to assist such individuals instead of amplifying their flaws.

Give me half of an evident to support that claim. Govt and embassy are aware of what?

Yes i'm aware of this sort of fraudulent activities and i have been warning people over 10yrs now, so when people open a thread like this to misinform others i have to speak out.

I don't have any sympathy for people like the op.

Obviously you are supporting people like the op

justwise:
The school is actually too nice to even give student payment plan after getting the visa claiming to have the full amount required to study in the UK.

Who is cheating who? You decided to buy bank statement and pay the interest just to get the visa, you came to the UK without that money you claimed to have, the school demanded for their money and you are here sending false alarm?

How many Nigerians can afford full tuition payment? Then don't start something you can not finish, where i came from there is a name they call someone who wants to have something he can not afford.

004gist:
Oga I said rest... Go and sit down and stop acting like a baby.
How many Nigerians can cough out 37 million naira

I repeat go and sit down and stop quoting me

You can not afford to study in the UK but you still went ahead to apply and lie to the embassy, now you are complaining about the school asking for their money.

004gist:
I repeat oga go and sit down

Everymonth I have been paying 1200 pounds.. This month alone I paid almost 2k pounds.

I ask I continue like that which means by June I will be through with the payment but they want everything now and t's not possible.


I repeat go and sit donw

Its possible if only you did not cheat yourself during visa application, so you are paying the price of your dishonesty.

The school is doing nothing wrong.

004gist:
Mr man rest...
Come Nigeria to hustle one million in this APC economy.

How many people have full deposits even the UK student don't have the funds or pay once ..
With all numerous loans plus benefits from government .. They hardly proceed to higher institutions. The few that do, spread the payment over 20 to 30 years

In UK the school give them (UK citizen) discount paying less than we Nigerians ... They even spread their payments after they graduated and start working.

Common phone they give them payment plan to pay for 3 years. I was in the market, wanted to buy phon. The seller was asking me to collect and be paying 20 pounds per month to 36 months

What about house? They give them space to spread till 30 to 40 years.

It's no crime to spread the payment till the end of the course... Other schools are doing it and it's not a favour to me

I asked previous set they said they gave up to 9 installment last year making it easy for everyone.. That's why I chose the institution... so probably their projected revenue fell and they are tightening their belt.

You are just wasting your time trynig to justify fraudulent activities that lead to schools changing installement payment policy.

People like are making it difficult for Nigerians to get a visa.

All you wrote up there got nothing to do with the really impotant issue here.

You don't compare home students to foreign ones because they play with different set of rules.

SamAfrik:
I really don't understand why some people cannot think straight. You hit someone with an hammer and start crying when he brings out a gun? Does hamas care about the suffering of their people? For the fact that they are still keeping Israeli hostage and firing rockets shows they are interested in fighting and ready for the consequences.
What have the Palestinians suffered that has not been suffered by Black people in the past, yet we don't go around killing and kidnapping. Let the terrorists drop their weapons and give activism a chance. At least Black people had persons like Martin Luther, Mandela and India had Ghandi. It may take time and sacrifice but things would eventually get better.

I feel really sorry for innocent Palestinians who got caught up in this war, they are the real victims here and not Hamas. Israel is doing what any country will do even though don’t support their occupation of Palestinian land which leads to this endless conflict.


Palestinians will have even wider support if not for Hamas