Outstandingmam: Mr moderator, go and rest like the OP told you.
You talk too much a lot of times and your toxicity is very grating. Are you not one of those who attack people who come to warn others about the pitfalls in the desperation of japa?
If you're used to fraud or brought up with fraud, not everyone has your experience. What's pinching you? The guy is already suffering the effects of his bad judgement and he's warning others, what exactly is killing you in that? He's warning people for goodness sakes.
You just talk down on anyone you see. What exactly is your problem?
You and your likes, you and many who only cry when they won stupid price for playing stupid game.
I will keep ringing this and i couldn't careless how you feel. The op is not warning anyone about japa, he is blaming the school for demanding for their money.
Where is the money he presented to the embassy during the visa application? That is the real issue here. If he has that money then he wouldn't have any prob with the school changing payment plan.
Outstandingmam: What the oldies are doing to the OP is quite unfair. The guy only opened a thread to warn others not to fall into the trap. He isn't begging for money or whatever. It takes a lot for him to come out with his story and I think it's a service most should be grateful for.
The few times I come to this forum, I see a lot of people who try to warn others about the japa craze. They try to sound the alarm that not all is as it seems but they're tagged bad belle and enemies of progress who don't want others to get there or that they've failed at getting visas hence the hate. I've wanted to lend my voice to it but I don't have time or energy for Internet toxicity which is so rife on this forum.
You guys should pls give the guy a break. He didn't kill person. The UK that gives everyone Visa knows they need the money. They also know people will not have the money immediately otherwise, why not insist on full payment before they come? Of course they will lose customers that's why. You gave someone a repayment plan and you now change it in the middle of the game, haba!!
You 'established' japarians should chill pls. That's how when one poster called Funclub (or what's his name) opened a thread, using his real experience to ask guys to think twice about embarking on japa, they almost lynched him here.
OP, just try and hang in there. I pray for you to get a way out. I hope you break free soon.
Nigerian problem is not really the politicians, our problem is people like you and there are many of you hence the danger ahead.
You people will go to any length to defend fraudulent activities, you hate the truth because you are used to abusing the system, its normal for many of you to use backdoor to achieve your aims.
The op cheated to get a visa and now paying the price for his fraudulent act and many of you are here ignorantly defending him.
fastseo: How many UK citizens de go school up to MSc Enter their university you will understand that without Indians, Nigerians, Ghanaians, few Chinese are holding their university.
In my class no one British all are Nigerians except few Indians... No pure white
Many do, you did not see them because they hardly attend lowly ranked universities which is where you see many Nigerians and Asian students
004gist: MVGv man...Coming to UK with 20 million is it empty hand. You winning like a baby.
The post is not directed at you rich kid....
The post was not directed to Nigerians who like you who have full 35 to 40million but to Nigerians who 70 it 50 pay% but would work and pay the rest..
Thousands have done it and thousands are still doing it across Europe with no default. Allow it to gently sink in your skl
20m is about £15K which is far less than what you need to study in the UK. Where is that money you presented to the embassy during the visa application? That is the point, you played yourself and now paying the price.
Jorussia: I think its wrong to vilify u for something over 90% of Nigerian students in the UK is guilty of.
So if 90% of Nigerians commit the same crime what do you do? Encourage and feel sorry for them when reality catch up with them? Organise pity party for them because they are victim of their own fraud?
studyless123: Well, I'm not in a position to speak for the OP and I also stated that I don't encourage unscrupulous activities. With my basic training in AML, I can easily tell a "baked" bank statement, the govt overlook some of these things but I won't go into all of that. Please keep sounding such warnings, that's highly appreciated.
But I'll share my experience with you. My brother and I decided to sponsor a relative to a football academy in the UK because of his talents. It was very expensive but we could easily afford it because I had a good paying job. My statement was used and he travelled. Unfortunately I was impacted by the tech layoffs in January of last year. With the payment plan we were still able to pull it off. Now tell me if the academy had change the payment plan, how will I be able to cope? Life happens and situations changes. Like I stated earlier your warnings is appreciated.
The example you gave got nothing to do with this case.
This is case of fraud right from visa application, some Nigerians are not smart, Nigerian is hard no doubt but you put together the little you have and pay to the school and the embassy then came to the UK empty handed with no money to survive so as to benefit from all you have spent.
Running around for jobs, unable to attend lectures, no peace of mind and at the end you are likely to be sent home and your visa curtailed.
studyless123: Please there's no need for accusations and don't pretend you're not aware this is a "standard" practice amoung the students so no need of pointing fingers. The embassy and the govt is aware but still issue the visas. It's not rocket science to know those statements are concorted.
While I don't encourage such acts, what he needs now is the ability to navigate his studies amidst the challenging situations. People go to great lengths to leave the country sometimes against common sense but if our path cross I do my best to assist such individuals instead of amplifying their flaws.
Give me half of an evident to support that claim. Govt and embassy are aware of what?
Yes i'm aware of this sort of fraudulent activities and i have been warning people over 10yrs now, so when people open a thread like this to misinform others i have to speak out.
justwise: The school is actually too nice to even give student payment plan after getting the visa claiming to have the full amount required to study in the UK.
Who is cheating who? You decided to buy bank statement and pay the interest just to get the visa, you came to the UK without that money you claimed to have, the school demanded for their money and you are here sending false alarm?
How many Nigerians can afford full tuition payment? Then don't start something you can not finish, where i came from there is a name they call someone who wants to have something he can not afford.
004gist: Oga I said rest... Go and sit down and stop acting like a baby. How many Nigerians can cough out 37 million naira
I repeat go and sit down and stop quoting me
You can not afford to study in the UK but you still went ahead to apply and lie to the embassy, now you are complaining about the school asking for their money.
004gist: Mr man rest... Come Nigeria to hustle one million in this APC economy.
How many people have full deposits even the UK student don't have the funds or pay once .. With all numerous loans plus benefits from government .. They hardly proceed to higher institutions. The few that do, spread the payment over 20 to 30 years
In UK the school give them (UK citizen) discount paying less than we Nigerians ... They even spread their payments after they graduated and start working.
Common phone they give them payment plan to pay for 3 years. I was in the market, wanted to buy phon. The seller was asking me to collect and be paying 20 pounds per month to 36 months
What about house? They give them space to spread till 30 to 40 years.
It's no crime to spread the payment till the end of the course... Other schools are doing it and it's not a favour to me
I asked previous set they said they gave up to 9 installment last year making it easy for everyone.. That's why I chose the institution... so probably their projected revenue fell and they are tightening their belt.
You are just wasting your time trynig to justify fraudulent activities that lead to schools changing installement payment policy.
People like are making it difficult for Nigerians to get a visa.
All you wrote up there got nothing to do with the really impotant issue here.
You don't compare home students to foreign ones because they play with different set of rules.
SamAfrik: I really don't understand why some people cannot think straight. You hit someone with an hammer and start crying when he brings out a gun? Does hamas care about the suffering of their people? For the fact that they are still keeping Israeli hostage and firing rockets shows they are interested in fighting and ready for the consequences. What have the Palestinians suffered that has not been suffered by Black people in the past, yet we don't go around killing and kidnapping. Let the terrorists drop their weapons and give activism a chance. At least Black people had persons like Martin Luther, Mandela and India had Ghandi. It may take time and sacrifice but things would eventually get better.
I feel really sorry for innocent Palestinians who got caught up in this war, they are the real victims here and not Hamas. Israel is doing what any country will do even though don’t support their occupation of Palestinian land which leads to this endless conflict.
Palestinians will have even wider support if not for Hamas
004gist: If you are planning on schooling in UK and you come across or you have chosen northumbria university either for September intake or January intake please stay clear from the University.
They have now put in place a non realistic payment plan. Imagine the school asking students to pay 2500 per month in just 90 days and you have no voice or choice.
The only time you should proceed is only when you have this funds in your account but if you wish to work and pay your fees as usual please I beg you leave the school.
They block access to portal, that means you can't submit assignments, participate in lectures, take attendance etc.
I decided to voice out to follow Nigerians not to make this mistakes because many are now stranded after spending huge money
No matter what any agent will tell you please stay away unless you have all your school fees
Northumbria University payment plan Newcastle or London Payment plan of northumbria school
The school is actually too nice to even give student payment plan after getting the visa claiming to have the full amount required to study in the UK.
Who is cheating who? You decided to buy bank statement and pay the interest just to get the visa, you came to the UK without that money you claimed to have, the school demanded for their money and you are here sending false alarm?
How many Nigerians can afford full tuition payment? Then don't start something you can not finish, where i came from there is a name they call someone who wants to have something he can not afford.
jedisco: Thanks for this. The last time I was on DMO, it's surprising how small the percentage of our debt is owed to the Chinese yet these are the most accounted for. Over 60% of our debt is owed to various western agencies for which we can't point to one thing they were used for. A dollar loaned from China had proven more beneficial to Nigerian than 10 from IMF
Of recent, there's been an obsession in western nations to 'warn' Africa about Chinese loans- one which I find evidently hypocritical. Like I asked a colleague recently, why are you worried?
This video by the president of Barbados put it eloquently
jedisco: What is all this talk about hating the West? Sounds like emotional blackmail or another form of the racist jibe 'go back to your country'.
How does speaking against a policy equate to hating the West? If I come across institutional racism in the UK (similar to the recent post office scandal when it happened), am I suppose to keep mum so I don't anger the West?
In my 95% British white county, all Brits with whom I've touched on the war in discussions are absolutely appaled by the amount of destruction being visited on Palestinians and do not see it as the end of this conflict. Do they also hate the West?
justwise: I recently unfollowed a longtime friend on facebook because of this, we used to share a house when I was a student and his anti western views is outrageous, since this war started my Facebook timeline is full of videos clips and pro Hamas materials. You can criticise certain western policies without hating the west with passion.
Russian and Chinese embassies are pretty much empty while getting an appointment for American visa applications take months, people sale all they have, borrowed and engaged in all sorts of fraudulent activities just to get UK visa but they hate the west?
How many of us will live in Russia or china and at the same time openly speak or support American or the west?
adekzy: Yes, we have been nursing corrupt governments majorly in Africa, but how has America helped our economy apart from huge IMF loan bondage?
China via its Belt and Road initiative has done way more for Africa in a few years compared to the West in decades.
IMF loan you said? Who forced African governments to take those loans and what did they do with those loans? America forced them to take it and forced them to mismanaged them?
It’s interesting that you mentioned China and projects they are carrying out in Africa but my question to you is this… is China doing it for free? China is giving African governments un-repayable loans to carry projects contracted by Chinese companies.
China is even doing worse than Americans and the west did in Africa.
ReesheesuKnack: I find it amusing that the very people who profess so much extreme hatred for ‘the West’ and so much hatred for ‘western values’ are the same who would use any means, including lying, pretense, deceit and every hook and crook means to travel , relocate and live in … “The West”.
Someone will go and make false declaration, or decide to enrol for an MSc in all sorts of Mickey Mouse degrees as a ‘back door’ to migrate to ‘the West’. As soon as the person crosses Heathrow Boarder force (other ports of entries are available), the West now become enemies and hypocrites and western values and policies now become something to detest.
You have sympathy for Hamas. You are pro-Hamas. The UK regards Hamas as a terror organisation. Yet, when filling your UK visa application, you lied that you have never shown support to a terrorist organization. Who is the liar and hypocrite here?
If I hate(d) the West, and I hate ‘the hypocrites’ and I abhor Western values, then my japa plans will be to head to the East, or the South, or the North. Definitely not the West.
I recently unfollowed a longtime friend on facebook because of this, we used to share a house when I was a student and his anti western views is outrageous, since this war started my Facebook timeline is full of videos clips and pro Hamas materials. You can criticise certain western policies without hating the west with passion.
Russian and Chinese embassies are pretty much empty while getting an appointment for American visa applications take months, people sale all they have, borrowed and engaged in all sorts of fraudulent activities just to get UK visa but they hate the west?
How many of us will live in Russia or china and at the same time openly speak or support American or the west?
lavida001: Thesame way IDF has been prosecuting Palestinians, taking their houses, barricading them like they live I. A concentration camps. This our support for the west is part of the reason why Africa is underdeveloped. We have been hypnotised to believe anything America and USA is right.
You are wrong, some parts of Africa is underdeveloped because we are extremely corrupt and wicked. Let’s not blame the America. Are those African countries who are anti American developed?
adekzy: By the way, Russia was defending the ethnic Russians in Ukraine (Dombas Region - The conflict split the Donbas into Ukrainian-held territory, constituting about two-thirds of the region, and separatist-held territory, constituting about one-third. The region remained this way for years until Russia launched a full-scale defence of the people) who have been facing prosecution since 2014 while most of you are unaware. Then Ukraine decided to bring American forces under the disguise of NATO to the Russian backyard! Who in the right sense of self-preservation will allow that?
America refused a Russian military base in Cuba but wanted to have one in the Russian backyard (Why should Russia agree for anybody).
This particular section of your post is exactly why i'm ''happy'' that Israeli-Gaza war is going on, not because i support Israeli, never but because of those who supported Russia invasion of Ukraine,
Russia took part of a sovereign nation (Ukraine) then annexed it and a year ago them started a full scale war against Ukraine and many of you supported Russia with all sorts of excuses AND now Israel is doing the same thing to Palestinian suddenly some of you are angry and calling for justice.
Israel is absolutely wrong in every sense of it, they are the occupier, the same way Russia is occupying Ukrainian land and now killing and destroying that country.
adekzy: As a labour advocate, it is best you follow the foreign policy of your government and the opposition so that when u start the door-to-door campaign, you will have extra points to sell your party..
The current onslaught of the UK/US attack on the Houthis in Yemen is been led by David Cameron because of the Red Sea shipping route.
Rushy can't help his strangling cold economic policy, but can send bombs to the ME/Yemen to kill innocent people all because of the Zionist IsraHell govt controlling his balls. Meanwhile, they are still massively funding Ukraine Zelensky on taxpayers money working in the cold winter!
Zahra29: The mass migration/education front is mainly from certain countries and I agree that they would not want to pay £10k for online teaching (although many did during COVID).
However, online courses are popular among certain demographics in the UK and could be a way for universities to gain revenue while cutting costs that come with on-prem teaching.
lol ..Zahra29 ? You really believe that universities will close the gap financially by doing that? Of course not, like i said months ago many universities will struggle to survive and govt will be forced to step-in or relax the policy for student visa.
derbylicious: Happy new year. Kindly recommend resources (app &/or website) for a successful life in the UK test prep please.
Download the official app from AppStore or google play, its very good, it has questions and answers section you can go over and over and for preparation
Travel › Re: Stay Away From Northumbria University UK Unrealistic installment Payment Plan by justwise(mod): 10:48am On Jan 19, 2024*. Modified: 1:47pm On Jan 19, 2024
