₦airaland Forum

shadowprimezero:
Typically burning at 600-800C, with prolonged exposure, fire is more than capable of melting ballistics glass.

Odunayaw:
I see nothing to suggest IED or RPG!!!

jln115:
Where did you even mention Armour in your quote below??

"The SA army has not purchased any new APCs since 40 years ago. Most of that equipment were purchased when they were fighting in Angola"

Seems like you don't know what Armour is my friend..... Because APCs are certainly not Armour.

jln115:
[s]Again this is incorrect.... The Mamba only went in to production in 1994....and have been upgraded on serval occasions with the last upgrade taking place in the mid 2000s

The last Casspir upgrade took place in 2006

New equipment that first entered service after border war:
Valour class frigates
Heroine class subs
Gripen fighters
Hawk lift
A109s
Super lynx
Several missile systems
Several anti air systems
G6 howitzer
Mamba apc
Several rifle and pistols
Hornet rdrv
Seeker 400
LinkZA
Chaka c2
Ect
Ect

Equipment that have been upgraded extensively after the border war

Olifant mk2 tank
Oryx mk2
Rooikat 76mm
Casspir
Oerlikon 35mm aa
Several rifle and pistols
G5 howitzer
Bateleur rocket luncher[/s]
Ect ect

jln115:
Again this is incorrect.... The Mamba only went in to production in 1994....and have been upgraded on serval occasions with the last upgrade taking place in the mid 2000s

The last Casspir upgrade took place in 2006

jln115:
Firstly It's the SANDF not the SADF

Secondly SA has been deployed to Mali, S Sudan, DRC, CAR, Mozambique, Lesotho in recent times with the SANDF soldiers seeing extensive combat in CAR, Mali, S Sudan and the DRC.

Infact Monusco is the largest and one of the most dangerous peacekeeping mission in the world..... Not just some small UN peacekeeping mission.

The SANDF also carries out numerous exercises each year..... So your assumption that our equipment is not tested is incorrect.

Xbee007:
[s]You doubt there is corruption in Nigeria!?

You probably must have heard of the case between P&ID and the Nigerian government. Well they were military contractor before they cable into oil and gas.

They ran scams with top military generals that ran into millions if not billions of dollars importing military hardware at cutthroat prices.[/s]

Xbee007:
You doubt there is corruption in Nigeria!?

Xbee007:
The only reason Nigerian Army can't move in such convoy is mainly because of corruption and lack of visionary leaders.

The people who import those soft skin hilux for NA must be smiling to bank every week.

Xbee007:
The only reason Nigerian Army can't move in such convoy is mainly because of corruption and lack of visionary leaders.

The people for import those soft skin hilux for NA must be smiling to bank every week.

jln115:
to the contrary I'm definitely disputing your post since those 30 year APCs have done a fantastic job against insurgent groups like the M23, ADF ect ect.

What I'm not disputing is the fact that project hoefyster has fallen behind schedule.

jln115:
Those 30 year old APC are still being sold TODAY!!! In terms of protection they still rival even the newest of MRAPs on the market.

In fact those old Casspirs have the best mine protection of any APC currently on the market..... And that's the facts talking not my opinion.

shadowprimezero:
Absolutely. Not a single soft skinned vehicle in sight, coordinated movement and excellent battlefield medicine. Apart from IED attacks, it would be suicidal for anyone to attempt an ambush on that convoy.

Uwaomaokey:
@Kabe1 It’s we good we have an indigenous assembler. He has to be celebrated, but don’t argue blindly.

AskiaHarem:
Yea just ignore the darn evidence sitting in front of your eyes. Just because you have a piss poor vehicular industrial complex (even by developing world standards) controlled by Indians more loyal to India doesn't mean everyone else on this continent is up sh1ts creek with you, you darn crab in a barrel.

kikuyu1:
No! They're a COUPLING plant- neither assembler nor manufacturer.

Carmit:
Lol....i actually like giving people respect online ....i feel anyone that curses without a reasonable reason is plain DUMB.

ok I get you... All in all... They produce something ....cut him some slack

EVarn:
[s]You sound like an exasperated sergeant who just can't believe how dumb his superior is with all these your "sir".

I get your point, and in actually fact, I agree with you that Innoson is very lazy. Getting original designs is a preliminary step and it is one of the easiest in automobile manufacturing. Especially with these civilian vehicles. However,on the producing of cars aspect, well, depends on what you mean by "producing". What I know of Innoson is that, apart from the elementary panel beating of the body and production of the seats and carpets, all the rest are imported and assembled[/s].

Carmit:
We will contribute trust me.

Just make sure to add some Nigerian defense news too.

Carmit:
Noted Champ.

Carmit:
We will contribute trust me.

Just make sure to add some Nigerian defense news too.

kikuyu1:
We've done this before: Innoson is neither a manufacturer nor assembler! They couple Chinese parts according to a blueprint and stick on the Innoson badge.

Algerian1:
There was reports of a production under license by the end of 2020 . but until now nothing official . only this first pics . it look like an imported one

But if they do same like the fox 2 project . they will start by importing around 50 ready from germany . then start the production line under license after .

shadowprimezero:
Snipers sighted at the Nigerian National Assembly, ahead of a presidential visit

shadowprimezero:
Firstly on the source of the Navistaar and Caimans, I said Nigeria purchased and ACQUIRED, but that's irrelevant to the point I'm making.

Secondly, you didn't even attempt to offer a counter argument to any of the points I raised. The reason we've cannibalized REVA's for spare parts is due to our flawed procurement strategy. This is the same we we have cannibalized/derelict T-72's, Bigfoot MRAP's and Caimans. We buy in a rush and without thinking. The US uses only 3 MRAP classes; Caiman, Maxx-pro and Couger. Turkey uses only 1; The Kipri Mrap etc.

When our armored vehicles inevitably get damaged in combat, it's not unusual to see even basic ballistics glass not replaced, talk less of more complicated systems. The Engineering Corps simply doesn't have the spare parts for each of the many Vehicles we operate.

shadowprimezero:
That's not true. This is a testament to the failed procurement strategy of the Nigerian Army. We purchased and acquired a large amount of different classes of MRAP's without any consideration to equipping the Nigerian Army Engineering Corps on maintainance and repair.
Bigfoot MRAP
Caiman MRAP

shadowprimezero:
That's not true. This is a testament to the failed procurement strategy of the Nigerian Army. We purchased and acquired a large amount of different classes of MRAP's without any consideration to equipping the Nigerian Army Engineering Corps on maintainance and repair.
Bigfoot MRAP
Caiman MRAP
Navistaar MRAP
Streit Typhoon MRAP
Reva MRAP
ARA 1 MRAP
ARA 2 MRAP
And counting.....

The solution lies in standardisation which we lack, thereby making things difficult for the engineering corps even though they're trying their best at the Special Vehicles Plant in Bauchi.

Hopefully, with an ever improving local defence industry, we're starting to produce our own armored vehicles which would really help with maintenance and standardisation

blacKDalia:
I will like to give you three gbosa for the bolded part of your comment.GEJ's administration that denied the Chibok kidnap for almost weeks or maybe months until they couldn't anymore and even after agreeing, they politicised it that it was the opposition that set the whole thing up. Where did you think this statement, "this blood that you are sharing, thereis God o", came from?