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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:27pm On Oct 16, 2019

Xbee007:
[s]You doubt there is corruption in Nigeria!?

You probably must have heard of the case between P&ID and the Nigerian government. Well they were military contractor before they cable into oil and gas.

They ran scams with top military generals that ran into millions if not billions of dollars importing military hardware at cutthroat prices.[/s]

Please read my comment you quoted one more time. You're mixing up your information.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:22pm On Oct 16, 2019

Xbee007:
You doubt there is corruption in Nigeria!?

I don't doubt means I do not dispute. I agree there is, there is an affirmation.

I'm asking do you know the numbers of APCs we have purchased from Yar'Adua till today?

You cannot just say it is because of corruption. Corruption exists everywhere including in South-Africa.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:18pm On Oct 16, 2019

Xbee007:
The only reason Nigerian Army can't move in such convoy is mainly because of corruption and lack of visionary leaders.

The people who import those soft skin hilux for NA must be smiling to bank every week.

The SA army has not purchased any new APCs since 40 years ago. Most of that equipment were purchased when they were fighting in Angola.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:15pm On Oct 16, 2019

Xbee007:
The only reason Nigerian Army can't move in such convoy is mainly because of corruption and lack of visionary leaders.

The people for import those soft skin hilux for NA must be smiling to bank every week.

I don't doubt there is corruption in Nigeria.

How many APCs have we purchased since Yar'Adua?

There is also massive corruption in South-Africa, why do you think their Patria IFV purchase is delayed?

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:14pm On Oct 16, 2019

jln115:
to the contrary I'm definitely disputing your post since those 30 year APCs have done a fantastic job against insurgent groups like the M23, ADF ect ect.

What I'm not disputing is the fact that project hoefyster has fallen behind schedule.

Nigeria deploys to various UN missions. Eg in Mali, Gambia, Sudan, Liberia etc.

The SADF has not seen active combat on the scale of the insurgency in Nigeria, Egypt or even Algeria.

Engaging in small UN peacekeeping missions is not enough to test the sustainability of your equipment.

This is the fact.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:02pm On Oct 16, 2019

jln115:
Those 30 year old APC are still being sold TODAY!!! In terms of protection they still rival even the newest of MRAPs on the market.

In fact those old Casspirs have the best mine protection of any APC currently on the market..... And that's the facts talking not my opinion.

Thank you for not disputing my post.

The SADF can move in large armour because their has been no wear & tear of their equipment.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:50pm On Oct 16, 2019

shadowprimezero:
Absolutely. Not a single soft skinned vehicle in sight, coordinated movement and excellent battlefield medicine. Apart from IED attacks, it would be suicidal for anyone to attempt an ambush on that convoy.

Those South-African APCs are from 35 - 40 years ago during the days of Apartheid. They are not engaged in a 9 years insurgency like Nigeria.

They haven't purchased a new APC in 30 odd years.

Their deal to purchase Patria IFVs is already 3 years behind schedule.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:20am On Oct 12, 2019

Z-20 and blackhawk

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:14am On Oct 12, 2019

China Z-20 Helicopter with it's PNVC in view.

PNVC - Pilot Night Vision Camera

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:34am On Oct 10, 2019

Uwaomaokey:
@Kabe1 It’s we good we have an indigenous assembler. He has to be celebrated, but don’t argue blindly.

Can you point out where i said the designs are originally from Nigeria?

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:23am On Oct 10, 2019

AskiaHarem:
Yea just ignore the darn evidence sitting in front of your eyes. Just because you have a piss poor vehicular industrial complex (even by developing world standards) controlled by Indians more loyal to India doesn't mean everyone else on this continent is up sh1ts creek with you, you darn crab in a barrel.

Kenya doesn't have any vehicle industrial complex to begin with.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:40pm On Oct 09, 2019

kikuyu1:
No! They're a COUPLING plant- neither assembler nor manufacturer.

You are confusing yourself.

What is this process called?

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:15pm On Oct 09, 2019

Carmit:
Lol....i actually like giving people respect online ....i feel anyone that curses without a reasonable reason is plain DUMB.

ok I get you... All in all... They produce something ....cut him some slack

President Buhari's Federal government has bought thousands of Innoson vehicles in the last 4 years, including for the Presidency, military and government parastatals.

Private Nigerians including, hundreds of transport companies continue to patronize them.

Proforce defence is also another company getting lots of government deals. I visited a state in the South, and could count more than 7 Proforce PF2s in the state used by the police and FSARS.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:03pm On Oct 09, 2019

EVarn:
[s]You sound like an exasperated sergeant who just can't believe how dumb his superior is with all these your "sir".

I get your point, and in actually fact, I agree with you that Innoson is very lazy. Getting original designs is a preliminary step and it is one of the easiest in automobile manufacturing. Especially with these civilian vehicles. However,on the producing of cars aspect, well, depends on what you mean by "producing". What I know of Innoson is that, apart from the elementary panel beating of the body and production of the seats and carpets, all the rest are imported and assembled[/s].

Grow up kid.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:01pm On Oct 09, 2019

Carmit:
We will contribute trust me.

Just make sure to add some Nigerian defense news too.

Rome was not built in a day?"........ This expression doesn't apply to Nigerian manufacturing sector.

We have built more than 1 million Rome's in the last 19 years.

Be proud.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:59pm On Oct 09, 2019

Carmit:
Noted Champ.

They have not done it before.

Kenya does not manufacture anything worthy of note. Nigeria has the largest manufacturing sector in West, East and Central Africa.

Do not apologize for who you are. When in doubt, ask for assistance. Knowledgeable Nigerians will assist you with evidence.

Our Defence and Motor industry is unmatched through out West, East and Central Africa, only South-Africa has a larger manufacturing base than Nigeria in Sub-Saharan Africa.

Innoson exports nearly 1,000 cars each year.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:53pm On Oct 09, 2019

Carmit:
We will contribute trust me.

Just make sure to add some Nigerian defense news too.

Never doubt your convinction. Innoson Vehicles are fully made in Nigeria.

See attached manufacturing process.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:50pm On Oct 09, 2019

kikuyu1:
We've done this before: Innoson is neither a manufacturer nor assembler! They couple Chinese parts according to a blueprint and stick on the Innoson badge.

You are talking nonsense. Innoson vehicles are manufactured in Nigeria.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:43pm On Oct 08, 2019

Algerian1:
There was reports of a production under license by the end of 2020 . but until now nothing official . only this first pics . it look like an imported one

But if they do same like the fox 2 project . they will start by importing around 50 ready from germany . then start the production line under license after .

You have the best military in Africa. How I wish we can see Algeria in action in Mali.

We are only good at buying different types of MRAPs in small quantities in Nigeria.

I don't think we know what IFVs are.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:40pm On Oct 08, 2019

shadowprimezero:
Snipers sighted at the Nigerian National Assembly, ahead of a presidential visit

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:17pm On Oct 06, 2019

shadowprimezero:
Firstly on the source of the Navistaar and Caimans, I said Nigeria purchased and ACQUIRED, but that's irrelevant to the point I'm making.

Secondly, you didn't even attempt to offer a counter argument to any of the points I raised. The reason we've cannibalized REVA's for spare parts is due to our flawed procurement strategy. This is the same we we have cannibalized/derelict T-72's, Bigfoot MRAP's and Caimans. We buy in a rush and without thinking. The US uses only 3 MRAP classes; Caiman, Maxx-pro and Couger. Turkey uses only 1; The Kipri Mrap etc.

When our armored vehicles inevitably get damaged in combat, it's not unusual to see even basic ballistics glass not replaced, talk less of more complicated systems. The Engineering Corps simply doesn't have the spare parts for each of the many Vehicles we operate.

My reply to you was very clear.

You cannot treat the Reva purchase as the same as the rest of the Nigerian army weapon procurement process.

The Reva was not bought by the Nigerian army.

The unit that use the Reva is a stand alone unit, which is funded, trained and equipped by the Office of the National Security Adviser.

Although the men are from the Nigerian army, Navy and Air Force, they are not funded by the army.

It's a different agency.

I also told you maintenance contracts were signed with the manufacturer. Infact a South-African mechanic was even killed in Nigeria.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:36pm On Oct 06, 2019

shadowprimezero:
That's not true. This is a testament to the failed procurement strategy of the Nigerian Army. We purchased and acquired a large amount of different classes of MRAP's without any consideration to equipping the Nigerian Army Engineering Corps on maintainance and repair.
Bigfoot MRAP
Caiman MRAP

If it was an army funded unit, I would have agreed with you. If they were bought second hand, I probably would have agreed with you. If mechanics were also not paid for perhaps I might have agreed with you also.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:32pm On Oct 06, 2019

shadowprimezero:
That's not true. This is a testament to the failed procurement strategy of the Nigerian Army. We purchased and acquired a large amount of different classes of MRAP's without any consideration to equipping the Nigerian Army Engineering Corps on maintainance and repair.
Bigfoot MRAP
Caiman MRAP
Navistaar MRAP
Streit Typhoon MRAP
Reva MRAP
ARA 1 MRAP
ARA 2 MRAP
And counting.....

The solution lies in standardisation which we lack, thereby making things difficult for the engineering corps even though they're trying their best at the Special Vehicles Plant in Bauchi.

Hopefully, with an ever improving local defence industry, we're starting to produce our own armored vehicles which would really help with maintenance and standardisation

First of all, we did not buy the Caiman and Navistar, they were donated to Nigeria as foreign aid from the US.

South-Africa sold Nigeria low quality MRAPs, this is a fact.

The Reva MRAP was bought for a particular Nigerian military unity to perform a special type of operation. It was used as was intended also.

On the 72 MSF was use the Reva MRAP in Nigeria. The unit was later transformed to the AFSF unit. The arms used by the 72 MSF was purchased by the NSA who continues to fund it's successor the AFSF unit. In addition to this purchase, the NSA made sure to purchase ambulances and mechanics.

This not an army funded unit, but an NSA funded unit.

45 units were purchased including ambulance and recovery vehicles, yet we can see that the vehicles have been cannibalized and could not stand the test of time.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 11:42am On Oct 06, 2019

blacKDalia:
I will like to give you three gbosa for the bolded part of your comment.GEJ's administration that denied the Chibok kidnap for almost weeks or maybe months until they couldn't anymore and even after agreeing, they politicised it that it was the opposition that set the whole thing up. Where did you think this statement, "this blood that you are sharing, thereis God o", came from?

[b]Former President Goodluck Jonathan has replied Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, David Cameron over his recent statement that Jonathan did not allow the UK to rescue Chibok Girls from Boko Haram.

In a statement made available to POLITICS NIGERIA, Jonathan wrote;

-[b]1).“I read the comments by former British Prime Minister, David Cameron, in his new book, For the Record, in which he accused me and the Nigerian Government, which I headed, of corruption and rejecting the help of the British Government in rescuing the Chibok Girls, who were kidnapped on April 14, 2014.”

“It is quite sad that Mr. Cameron would say this because nothing of such ever occurred. As President of Nigeria, I not only wrote letters to then Prime Minister David Cameron, I also wrote to the then US President, Barrack Obama, and the then French President, François Hollande, as well as the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, appealing to them for help in rescuing the Chibok Girls.How could I write to appeal for help and then reject the very thing I appealed for?”

-2).“Also, history contradicts Mr. Cameron. On March 8, 2012, when the same Boko Haram linked terrorists abducted a British expatriate named Chris McManus, along with an Italian hostage Franco Lamolinara, in Sokoto, I, as Nigerian President, personally authorised a rescue effort by members of the British military Special Boat Service supported by officers and men of the Nigerian Army, to free the abducted men.”

“So, having set a precedent like that, why would I reject British help in rescuing the Chibok Girls, if it was offered? I also authorised the secret deployment of troops from the United Kingdom, the United States and Israel as a result of the Chibok incident, so how Mr. Cameron could say this with a straight face beats me.”

“Moreover, on March 8, 2017, the British Government of former Prime Minister, Theresa May, in a widely circulated press statement, debunked this allegation and said there was no truth in it after Mr. Cameron had made similar statements to the Observer of the UK.”

-3).“In his book, Mr. Cameron failed to mention that I wrote him requesting his help on Chibok. Why did he suppress that information? I remind him that copies of that letter exist at the State Houses in Nigeria and London. He never called me on the phone to offer any help. On the contrary, I am the one that reached out to him.”

-4).“He accused me of appointing Generals based on political considerations. How could that be when I fired my service chiefs twice in five years, to show that I would not tolerate anything less than meaningful progress in the war on terror.”

“I was completely blind to ethnic or political considerations in my appointments. In civil and military matters, I appointed people that I had never even met prior to appointing them, based on their professional pedigree. Though I was from the South, most of my service chiefs came from the North.”

“I do, however, know that Mr. Cameron has long nursed deep grudges against me for reasons that have been published in various media.”

“On July 24, 2013, while celebrating the passage of the United Kingdom’s Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, 2013, Mr. Cameron said “I want to export gay marriage around the world”.”

“At that occasion, he boasted that he would send the team that successfully drafted and promoted the Bill, to nations, like Nigeria, saying inter alia:
"I’ve told the Bill team I’m now going to reassign them because, of course, all over the world people would have been watching this piece of legislation”.

-5).As President of Nigeria at that time, I came under almost unbearable pressure from the Cameron administration to pass legislation supporting LGBTQ Same-Sex marriage in Nigeria. My conscience could not stomach that, because as President of Nigeria, I swore on the Bible to advance Nigeria’s interests, and not the interest of the United Kingdom or any foreign power.”

“As such, on Monday, January 13, 2014, I signed the Same-Sex Marriage Prohibition Bill into law after the Bill had been passed by an overwhelming bipartisan majority of Nigeria’s parliament, in line with the wishes of the Nigerian people. This happened shortly after a study of 39 nations around the world by the U.S. Pew Research Center came up with a finding which indicated that 98 percent of Nigerians were opposed to the idea of Gay Marriage.”

“Immediately after I took this patriotic action, my government came under almost unbearable pressure from Mr. Cameron, who reached me through envoys, and made subtle and not so subtle threats against me and my government.”

“In fact, meetings were held at the Obama White House and at the Portcullis House in Parliament UK, with the then Nigerian opposition to disparage me, after I had signed the Same-Sex Marriage Prohibition Bill into law.

-6).On the issue of corruption, it suffices to say that Mr. Cameron is not as competent as Transparency International, which is globally acknowledged as the adjudicator of who is corrupt and who is not.”

“During my administration, in 2014, Nigeria made her best ever improvement on the annual Transparency International Corruption Perception Index, moving from 144 the previous year, to 136, an 8 point improvement. As a nation, we have not made such improvements on the CPI before or after 2014.”[/b]

“In line with these facts, I would urge the public to take Mr. Cameron’s accusations with a grain of salt. I will not be the first person to accuse him of lying on account of this book, and with the reactions in the Uk so far, I definitely will not be the last.”[/b]

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:36am On Oct 06, 2019

South-Africa sold very poor quality MRAPs to Nigeria.

Look at the state of the Reva MRAPs we purchased in 2015, brand new.

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Politics › Re: APC Tells Jonathan Not To Defend Hinself Against Cameron's Allegations by kabe1: 7:52am On Oct 06, 2019

Former President Jonathan gave Cameron a very robust response.

Travel › Re: Nigerian Man Shouts At US Airline Hostess "Do You Think I Am Your Mate?" by kabe1: 11:12am On Oct 04, 2019

toluxa1:

Village people got ur back
problem is when u trek 2km to work just to get there and realize that you forgot the office key at home. So you managed to trek back home leaving your heavy bag at the office doorstep...
On getting home, you realized that your house key is in the bag you left at the Office Doorstep... You got upset, but had no choice, so you trekked back to the office again, picked up your bag angrily, and trekked your way back home again..
On getting home, you dipped your hand in your bag, only to realize that the office key was in your bag all along...
Now you sit on the floor shouting... "Make una kuku kill me ooohhh village people".

Hahahahaahahahahahahaahahaha

Damn!!!

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:03pm On Oct 03, 2019*

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this with Defenceweb.co.za and Nigeria.

I think Defenceweb, the South-African defence news web always gives favourable coverage to Nigeria.

They seem to support Nigeria's defence industry a lot with positive news coverage. I noticed this very well with the Proforce Ara MRAP.

Big ups to them.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:00pm On Oct 03, 2019

Odunayaw:
ipv 2

Thanks.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:11pm On Oct 03, 2019

Nigerian army locally made vehicle.

Please what is this called?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:08pm On Oct 01, 2019

jln115:
2. Ok answer this, the Casspir was built in the 80s, the word MRAP has only existed since around 2006.........So what did they call the Casspir before 2006??

Future MRAP. grin

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:38pm On Oct 01, 2019

I just came across this. Looks like a mine-roller attached to a lorry.

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