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Jimi24:
Aside from this, the JF17 design is short legged in terms of distance. The Chinese specific requirements being a very large country cannot be met by this aircraft but most Arab and African countries not interested in geographic power projection find it useful but no less potent. The LCA is also short legged and it is an Indian development. Short of the Russian SU 30MKI and more recently the Rafale, India does not have any heavy weight combat aircraft to speak off. Pakistan is countering with ageing F 16s but JF 17s Block 2 and 3 are being prepared as potent answers to SUs. So where's this idea about being cheap equala being weak coming from?

India has 249 units of SU-30MKI, they are still going to purchase 30 more which includes MIG-29.

Indian Air Force also has 66 units of MIG-29UPG

Indian Navy has 45 MIG-29k.

Indian Air Force is far far far ahead of Pakistan.

When you say India does not have any heavy weight fighter jets to speak of, I just laugh at you.

SuperSixSeven:
JF 17 Block 2 and 3 will not perform anywhere near a SU30 or MIG35, it designed as a low-cost / low-perfomance fighter. You cant turn a giraffe into a racing horse.

They are not in the same class. A JF-17 is not designed to compete against an SU-30 which is a heavy weight air superiority fighter. It doesn't compare to the MIG-35, the MIG-35 is not yet in service with any air force, including Russia.

The most advanced MIG currently in service is the MIG-29m and m2.

Congratulations to South-Africa on winning the Rugby World Cup

Xbee007:
That is because China is the original manufacturer of JF-17.

What I mean is China flies the J-10 which is a medium multirole fighter, why would they fly a light multirole fighter?

Big Air Forces around the world do not fly Light Multirole Fighters only medium and above.

Example the US, Russia, China, Japan, Saudi-Arabia etc

joshingjosh:
What calliber of gun is mounted on this beast??

And I was expecting it to be automatic not manually controlled

It looks like a heavy machine gun. I don't know the caliber.

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Nigeria

Goel:
Yeah, I am.

Do you live in Nigeria or India?

Goel:
India rejected a similar plane offered by HAL 1990. JF-17 is a joke for IAF standards, not even a trainer. It's for countries who can't afford better planes.

The JF-17 is a capable light weight aircraft. It's in the same class as the Gripen C/D. It also fills the same gap of being an affordable modern air asset.

Goel:
No it didn't. AMRAAM can only be fired by F-16. You have to integrate softwares & codes before integrating missile systems. Only idiots without an iota of military knowledge will believe that Pakistan used JF-17. F-16 were just not allowed to be used in a war, that's why their official quote included JF-17.
And not two planes, only one MiG-21 was lost. Rest was all internet buzz spread by internet terrorists to save their faces.
https://www.rt.com/news/470425-india-sukhoi-pakistan-parade/

From evidence seen after the February 27th incident, only one MIG-21 fighter was shot down. Claims of any other shoot down made by India and Pakistan are just claims.

Your comment of F-16s not used in more also makes no sense. From what was seen in February 27, JF-17, Mirages and F-16s were used. With the JF-17 and Mirages used to strike ground targets, and the F-16s used to lay ambush for Indian fighters.

Off course India has a far better Air Force than Pakistan, but the Pakistani's showed that they would make India work very hard to achieve an air victory in actual war situation. That's to say that the prospect of Indian air looses would negate the value of victory.

Goel:
You want any more reason? China itself doesn't use JF-17. It's a low cost one for poor nations.

Reason being India. Air Force had doubled its strength between 1990 and 2010 while defense budget close to triple between 2009 and 2018.

Next decade will be a revolution for Indian aviation sector once India operationalizes most of its systems and puts them in production.

Why would China use the JF-17 when it already flies the J-10?

Your assertion makes no sense.

I understand you are Indian, you have every right to defend your country but please make reasonable arguments.

Nigerian Air Force Air Assault

The U.S. Navy F / A-18E Super Hornet, which shot down the Syrian Su-22 in 2017, has now received a new brand.

Nigerian Air Assault

Lurker4Long:
This thread really has gone to the dogs!

I see what you're doing sir.

Sizzorkay:
I don't know much about military matters, but shouldn't the soldier with the dog be in the front of the team? you know, with the dog more in the front of the troops instead of in the rear, it's kind of useless if the canine is in the rear no?

I don't know much of military matters myself, just started following the military last year.

I think since they just rappelled down from the helicopter and moving towards the target, that's why the dog is behind.

When they reach the target, the soldiers would unleash the dog, and follow carefully from behind.

At-least that is what I see in movies and military documentaries.

US Special Forces dog from Delta that participated in the mission to kill Bagdadi.

Watch Nigerian soldiers conduct Air Assault mission.

NAF SOF (panthers) conduct air assault during counter terrorism exercise along kaduna road. pic.twitter.com/JA6V0GNc8l

— Jake (@Jakepor21) October 28, 2019

Nigeria Regiment Personnel

Nigerian soldiers

Nigeria's advanced Defence Industry

Proforce Vehicle manufacturing mini-documentary



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjhhHESwr_U

When you look at this photos, Ezugwu looks like a very nice looking mrap.

Ignore the politicians in front.

Nigerian filmmakers are shooting a new action film.

The Nigerian army has loaned the film producers lots of military equipment including the Ezugwu MRAP, and different types of locally made APCs.

See link

https://www.instagram.com/p/B35d-yXAWHK/?igshid=sr6u6q8lvq7b

It has been confirmed, Nigeria not Niger would be getting 12 MI-35m attack helicopters.


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Interesting: Russian FSMTC official Anatoly Punchuk says a contract was signed for the delivery of 12 Mi-35 attack helicopters to Niger
Derek Bisaccio
@DerekBisaccio
Evidently Russian media dropped the ball on this one. Though it was said to be a contract between Russia and Niger https://reuters.com/article/us-russia-africa-niger-helicopters/russia-signs-deal-to-supply-niger-with-12-attack-helicopters-ria-idUSKBN1X220T

All of the original articles saying that on various media agencies have been updated, changing "Niger" to "Nigeria"
Russia & Niger ink deal for delivery of MI-35 combat helicopters — RT Business News
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Worth noting that a dozen Mi-35s, even priced conservatively, would come to a cost of virtually the entire annual Nigerien defense budget.
Derek Bisaccio
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Oct 24
For whatever reason, Russian media seems to screw up the Nigeria Mi-35 contract in big ways when Punchuk speaks on it. A few years back a routine comment on the deal was misconstrued to be a reference to a new deal for Su-30s for Nigeria
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Derek Bisaccio
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Answer: It was a misquote. He said Nigeria to receive 10 Mi-35Ms in 2018, not Su-30s. Sputnik misquoted. https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170626/1497284437.html
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https://ria.ru/amp/20191023/1560099054.html?__twitter_impression=true

BREAKING Intel and military sources confirm ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi has been killed in US special operation in Barisha near Sarmada in northern rural #Idlib. It's a very big news

ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is believed to have been killed in a US military raid, two sources say. Final confirmation is still pending. https://cnn.it/2qJjTlT

It seems Nigeria signed a contract for an additional 12 MI-35m helicopters.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1X220T




Reuters
FRI OCT 25, 2019 / 3:56 AM EDT
Russia signs deal to supply Nigeria with 12 attack helicopters: RIA

(Reuters) - Russia and Nigeria have signed a deal for Moscow to supply 12 Mi-35 attack helicopters to Nigeria, a senior official at Russia's federal military-technical cooperation service said on Wednesday, the RIA news agency reported.

The contract was announced as Russia welcomed dozens of African heads of state to the southern Russian city of Sochi amid a push by Moscow for clout on the continent.

(This story corrects country to Nigeria, not Niger, in headline and paragraph 1 after RIA issued correction)

seankafor:
where are the Kurds when u need them

How?

I don't understand.

Sizzorkay:
It's annoying seeing the US driving military vehicles around in sovereign state without consent, how insane is that. And they wonder why every rat and rabbit want nukes, because if you are weak, sheet like this will happen to you, it's that simple.
Flying your flag in someone else's territory, pure madness

The audacity, and brazen breach of the rule of law, it's amazing.

U.S. troops today drive near a checkpoint of the Syrian gov army in city of Qamishli. Americans in pic are on their way to take oilfields in Eastern Syria.

JF-17B

andrewza:
That does not answer any thing though

That's the information available.