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haibe:
you said morality is subjective and I am asking "in essence" if every action (well that relates to morality ) is subjective too, ? Yes or No

I just answered your question joor! I said yes! When questions of morality arises, it is subjective. If it was objective, there would not be disagreements on what is moral or immoral. We would not have differing opinions on what we consider right on wrong. It does not make sense for morality to be absolute especially when every individual has a different belief system. Your right could be my wrong and your wrong could be my right, therefore making it subjective.

haibe:
if u say the concept of morality is subjective; do you agree that every action or deed done is subjective then?

Like you said in your previous post, we are talking about morality so you can not refer to every deed and action because not every deed and actions brings in questions of morality. Eating and sleeping are actions. Walking is an action. The issue of morality comes in when you question whether an action is right or wrong Or the extent in which your action would start giving you doubts on whether it is the right or wrong thing. You do not question yourself on whether it is right or wrong to eat when you are hungry. You question yourself when you go to a restaurant and take food that does not belong to you.

haibe:
oga we are talking of morality and immorality here. Its independent of the pleasure u derive from it.. So if something does not affect me directly, its is morally right, SMH!!

Yes.
Even the thief may feel guilty afterwards for his actions but when a homosexual is with the love of his life, why would he feel guilty when he is doing something his body naturally wants to do.

The concept of morally and immorality is subjective.

haibe:
If I get you right, you are saying you can only be moral or immoral based on what a man made law says?

You don't see homosexuality as immoral but the Nigerian law condemns it outrightly with a 14 years imprisonment? Sorry but am yet to understand your point as it is not consistent.

I was Comparing Nigeria to turkey as per you saying fornication can never be an offence. .Go to islamic countries and fornicate openly okay?

A thief's act is not seen as a wrong act by all, even though it is an immoral act. I gave you the analogy of a thief because it was infact very common with my roomates in school back then. They do not see their yahoo yahoo 419 scam to the white man as stealing because the white man stole from us years back? Now does this mean stealing isnt immoral? That was my point which is very easy to conprehend.

Anyone that truly know the meaning of immorality knows that homosexuality is immoral, they may not see it as an offence, thus not supporting the bill to be passed to law but that doesn't mean they don't see it as an immoral act. For example, I wont support the fornication bill to be passed to law but that doesn't mean that fornication is morally okay.

When you steal, you are depriving someone of something which is a bad thing.

When someone is having intercourse with a person of the same sex in their bedroom, it does not have any impact on you whatsoever or deprive you of anything.

Can you see the difference?

safarigirl:
i'm not a bible freak, so I can't even quote anything to support whatever.

I believe the last paragraph of my write-up clearly outlined that i'm not against people having sex, i'm against people who have sex and then blMe everyone but themselves

Don't get me wrong I agree with the writeup. I was referring to your title.

stan241:
Personally i believe the word "Immorality" has turned into a "personal" thing meaning you can't enforce what you see as immoral on another person, we can go on about this sex thingy but its all down to individuals and what they "believe" in and not really about morals anymore that's the world we are faced with today, its a personal choice really now for me if i don't have any sort of emotional connection to you(which is rare) aint no way I'm getting down with you unlike some who well as long as the opposite sex has the desired features, then its game on @op its all about personal beliefs and not really "Immorality" as you termed it but nice write up

I agree with this. The op might come with a bible to support her reasoning for calling it immoral but not everyone believes in that so you are right in saying it's personal.

When they were doing it they forgot all that immoral and fornicating bit but when they turn born again, thats when they start pointing fingers and being judgy instead of whipping themselves to oblivion for their "immoral" ways in penance.

Dammit.









So basically, what you are saying is that if you are having sex, you should stand for that and be proud of it rather than blaming your partner for seducing you?

adesegun121:
Women are supposed to be like butterflies, beautiful and hard to catch. But most of y'all are like mosquitos, annoying and easy to smash





mtchewwww awon oniradarada oshi..

What nonsense! Women are human beings just like you, not bloody butterflies. Forget all that nonsense you grew up hearing about how women are meant to be so and so. The same blood that runs through you is the same blood that runs through them, not some mystical fairy dust that stops them from acting human. The same way you lust after women, it's the same way women lust after men. Forget all the rubbish hype Beyonce is hyping on about. Women do not wake up flawless, they wake up with swollen face and drool all over their mouths, they are as human as you are. Get that through your head as only then will you find peace. If you want something that is similar to a butterfly, you might as well go be with a butterfly. Rubbish!

NeduLuiZ:
actually it's 25likes so go back and modify. Don't quote even if you do I won't reply.

Still does not change that fact that you are goats.

NeduLuiZ:
so what's the purpose of you quoting me and did you see me advising rape? Ended comment with "Oya come" so that I would degrade myself to your own level of stupidity or your lack of respect. I pray you grow to be sensible. #noHardFeelings #cheers.

Then what exactly were you implying with your statement "say no to provocative dressing" if it is not implying that what you wear dictates whether you get ra.ped or not. What you did is an upgrade as I get to teach your ignorant azz about ra.pe. See, when a woman wears a mini skirt, she is not telling you, you have a right over her body unless she says so by her own freewill. Keep that in mind next time you see a woman in shorts and you feel you have a right to tear off those shorts and indulge yourself. Until a woman opens her mouth and says yes to having sex with you, you have no right even if she is walking around in g-string.

NeduLuiZ:
Nice move kindly add "say No to provocative dressing" to the banner








Am a fan #sayNoToRape

You and the 22 people that liked this are goats.

Oya, come!

Is he in awe or what?

Chubhie:
There's nothing near perfection in the statement by enoquin's aunt infact, that statement is dangerous. Agreed the aunt made that statement in an effort to preserve the childs innocence. If that child unfortunately gets robbed of that innocence and learns the hard way won't you think she will ask questions on people around her who ought to guide her?

Some ladies today are so unlucky to get taught sexual education by their boyfriends though the hard way. Some beef their mum till now on why she didn't teach them how to navigate the treachery waters.

If you are to understand that everyman you see on the streets without top notch discipline is a potential predator. A lot goes on unreported in nigeria.

And this is sex education to you? Telling a child that her outfit may turn a man on? Wtf is wrong with people na? Seriously? Please, go through it in your head, you want to tell a child, her outfit might turn a man on and cause a man to abuse her.

You have put a whole burden on a child. A child that was once carefree, now has to be careful in what she wears so she doesn't attract the attention of a full grown azz adult with higher mental capacity than her to her broomstick figure. If she gets abused i guess people will say she was not careful enough. I can now see, why many in our society keep their mouths shut when their kids have been abused. The female child must have seduced the adult male with her little Dora the Explorer top that does not go past her pampers Padded tights for him to have done what he did.


Oga, goodday, I feel like I am repeating the same thing over again.

Ewuro4:
Kandiikane & Joel , people are sick and bored with their own miserable lives, they're fond of judging others while their own properties are on fire .... Who goes online surfing looking for "kids sexy pictures" to criticize ??

That kid could be a model or athlete for all we know. I have tons of those.

Another fact that you're also given the grace to view the kid on Facebook doesn't guarantee every dick & Harry's access to her in the real world.

Musto change my Facebook setting asap.. Sickos on the loose.

I knoow. I don't even get it.

Chubhie:
A left thinking man will find a child sexually attractive and an abnormal adult will perceive what's not on a child.

What I'm trying to do is not to put the blame of abuse on the victims. Please refrain from putting words into my mouth. My intention is for you to equip the child morally, self defence wise with every tact in the book used by such men since society is lawless and we can't collectively secure our kids.

Secure your kids and leave no room for Oga pedo.

rephrasing what I wrote earlier. What you guys are doing is telling an innocent child that she is not meant to wear something because it will cause a man to loose his senses and abuse her. This is shifting blame from the adult to an innocent child.

I agree with this statement made by enoquin's aunt. The only person with the problem is enoquin who had already sexualised something that was not meant to be in her head and then implied that men that see the child will find her sexually appealing.

That is an innocent child that knows nothing. If you tell her to go and put something on, she might have her mind spoiled. She is just 11"

The aunty spoke perfectly. sexualising a child is not by what she wears but what she hears. If the aunt had told her to go change because what she wore will turn men on, what exactly has she done? 1. What she has done is sexualise the child. 2. Told the child that it will be her fault if she gets abused because she must have dressed a certain way which turned the guy on. 3. Men have no control 4. All men are potential pedos and ra.pists



Like I said earlier, it's all in the messed up minds of grown ups, what the child is wearing has nothing to do with it.
If what you guys think is true, then I truly feel sorry for all the poor kids running around naked playing or the teenagers tying just wrapper to go fetch water somewhere in the world, right now. It must have been hell for the kids and our women back in the day.

Chubhie:
They are saying is it safe for such an innocent child in today's perverse world. Don't you read the news of how the Nigerian jungle is?

There are not so very reasonable and disciplined male adults left in nigeria. Take a good conscious look around you- can you feel a certain sexually charged atmosphere? You can conduct an experiment and use that kid as a bait-you might just be shocked.

That kids parents should be arming that kid with high moral standards first before introducing her to the sexy part of life.

Come off that jor! A right thinking man won't find a child sexually attractive. A pedo will find a children sexually attractive regards of what he or she wears, be it thongs or buba and wrapper. What you are doing is putting the blame of abuse on the victims, rather than the adult who decides to indulges in such disgusting behaviour.

What exact adult attributes will a normal adult perceive from that child? is it boobs, nyash? A pedo does not think like the average adult, a pedo is tuned to find kids attractive regardless of what is worn. It is not what a child wears that makes someone attracted to them.

How about the young boys who also get abused, do they have to dress a certain way for abuse to happen?

The same way a rapist will ra.pe regardless of what you wear. See India for example. Majority of the female population are covered up but the ra.pe cases are quite high.

The fact that we even making a big deal out of this shows how fuc.ked up our minds are. It's a bloody child, the problem is with the men you are implying will get turned on by this, not the child or her mother/father.

Mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!

I am guessing most of you do not know what red nose day is all about.

agarawu23:
pls space your nljega..

Lol...

I vote for:

Tohpahz




cc:NLJega

virus04:
Make up is powerful

Oga, shut it!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2437296_sandra3_jpegefd8078b0de96d484142c963b6a58e42

This picture is beautiful Sandrahnaub

I am drawn towards subbied and twaci.

This is why black people should be taught the importance of wearing sunscreen. She won't really see the extent of that damage unless she checks it out under uv light.

I vote for:

Subbied
Adeh39
Maureensylvia
Aitepete2
Twaci

CC: NLJega

Parasitic:
Herpes caused by human papiloma virus may cause cervical cancer
Candida albican fungi causing candidiasis vaginal thrush, bacteria vaginosis like gardnella, ureaplasma urealyticum, neissera gonorrhoea, treponema pallidum causing vaginitis syphilis, them protozoa trichomonas vaginalis!!

Oga, are you ok? this is soo wrong. Get your facts correct biko.

*yawn*

*lazy reader*








Nonsense. Keep fooling yourselves. Better grow up!

Indian hemp, lose control?
Abeg an wash!

It is just the alcohol