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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Karleb(m): 8:46pm On Oct 15, 2020
tesppidd:
Lionel Messi by numbers:

More than a decade of dominance in La Liga and beyond.


Lionel Messi is closing in on a mammoth 750 appearances for Barcelona in what could be his final season for them.

The Argentine’s contract expires at the end of 2020/21 and given his very public fallout with the club board this past summer, the potential for him to not renew in Catalunya is very real.



Messi would leave behind a legacy of feats, practically all of them achieved by him during his time at the Camp Nou. If there’s a record to be set, you can be sure Messi has set it.



Messi’s dominance is especially apparent in La Liga.
League play is the benchmark of consistency and quality that all great squads aspire to. It is the hardest trophy to win and most managers consider it the best. It perhaps lacks the razzle dazzle of a knockout cup, but it illustrates true consistency and quality better. And if two words summed up Lionel Messi’s footballing career, it would be consistency and quality.


The Argentine has been great ever since his debut.
But starting with 2006/07, the first season he played more than 20 league games, his performance and output in La Liga is absolutely, utterly, incomprehensibly ridiculous.
He dominates every major metric that Opta keep track of. Don’t believe us? Well check this out:



La Liga since 2006/07:


1. Appearances
Lionel Messi: 464
Raul Garcia: 454
Aritz Aduriz: 425



Messi’s ability to always be fit for selection is an underrated part of his skill-set. It is what makes all the records you’re about to read possible. By managing his physical exertion in games (i.e. those times when he walks around) he manages to stay fit and avoid serious injuries, meaning more minutes for much magic.


2. Dribbling
Take-ons completed

Lionel Messi: 2,039
Joaquin: 749
Andres Iniesta: 739


Messi’s dribbling is quite simply without equal. Usually great dribblers have a few years where they’re able to dance past anyone, but Messi has been doing it for nigh-on 15 years now. Bewitching and bewildering defenders for an entire generation. Levels.



3. Playmaking
Chances created

Lionel Messi: 1,019
Xavi: 662
Joaquin: 639

Messi’s passing is definitely his most underrated skill, as he is genuinely one of the best playmakers in the world and has been for a decade. He is constantly putting team-mates into positions to score.


4. Assists

Lionel Messi: 181
Dani Alves: 89
Cristiano Ronaldo: 87

Messi’s 181 assists is a huge number that owes itself the quality of his team-mates (Luis Suárez, Samuel Eto’o, Neymar, etc.) but the massive gulf between chances created and assists shows that he could have created more goals for Barcelona if said team-mates were sharper.



5. Goalscoring
Shots on target

Lionel Messi: 1,039
Cristiano Ronaldo: 831
Karim Benzema: 449

“You’ve got to make the goalkeeper work,” is what the old heads always say about shooting, and Messi does just that more often than anyone.


6.Goals

Lionel Messi: 438
Cristiano Ronaldo: 311
Karim Benzema: 170

Goals are the most basic currency in football, and it is a currency in which Messi deals regularly. The Argentine’s ability to outscore even a dedicated goal-getter like Cristiano Ronaldo while maintaining the rest of his game to a ridiculous level is why he’s the greatest of all time.



7.Direct Free-kick goals

Lionel Messi: 36
Cristiano Ronaldo: 20
Dani Parejo: 11
Benat: 11

Messi’s expertise from set-pieces emerged in 2012 and has been a significant feature of his time in Barcelona since. When Messi stands over a free-kick, you can feel the anticipation build to fever pitch… and then he shoots!



8.Goals from outside the box

Lionel Messi: 79
Cristiano Ronaldo: 42
Santi Cazorla: 22

But Messi’s ability from range is not restricted to set-pieces, from chips against Tenerife to thunderbolts vs. Osasuna to bending beauties at the Bernabeu, Messi is lethal from all distances.




Across Europe.

*If Messi’s magical metrics in La Liga weren’t impressive enough, his production is actually that dominant across all of Europe’s top five leagues.
You may wonder how those absurd numbers from above stack up against all of Europe’s finest since 2006/07? Can Messi’s dominance extend out across all of the top five leagues and over other legends who dominate their own divisions? Let’s have a look.


Europe’s top five leagues since 2006/07:

1. Appearances
Hugo Lloris: 477
Samir Handanovic: 474
Blaise Matuidi: 467

This is a bright start for the anti-brigade as Messi doesn’t feature among the top three appearance-makers across Europe’s top five leagues. He’s only three appearances away from levelling Blaise Matuidi, however, and given the Frenchman is currently playing in the MLS we are not far from seeing Messi break the top three.


2. Dribbling
Take-ons completed

Lionel Messi: 2,039
Eden Hazard: 1,244
Franck Ribery: 974

Messi remains Dribble God even when up against someone like Eden Hazard, who has spent most of the time facing less technically excellent defenders in England, or Franck Ribery dicing up defenders in the counter-happy Bundesliga. He simply cannot be touched.



3. Playmaking
Chances created

Dimitri Payet: 1,162
Mesut Ozil: 1,107
Lionel Messi: 1,019

Messi quite predictably drops a bit down the list for pure chances created, as dedicated playmakers Payet and Ozil (who also take every passing set-piece, which Messi doesn’t) edge their way above him. That he is still contending with guys, whose only job is to set team-mates up, again shows the breadth of his brilliance.



4. Assists

Lionel Messi: 181
Cesc Fabregas: 136
Mesut Ozil: 132

Messi cannot be touched for assists, though. As good as Cesc Fabregas and Ozil are (and remember some of those Fabregas assists were for Messi) they cannot compare to the Argentine’s ability to create goals.



5. Goalscoring.
Shots on target

Cristiano Ronaldo: 1,187
Lionel Messi: 1,039
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 676

With his spells at Old Trafford and Juventus Stadium taken into account, Cristiano Ronaldo manages to surpass Messi for hitting the target with his shots.



6. Goals.

Lionel Messi: 438
Cristiano Ronaldo: 432
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 257

Cristiano Ronaldo is older than Messi and since 2008 has dedicated himself wholesale to goalscoring, yet Messi has outdone him in this area. Not by much, admittedly, but again: Messi is a player who spreads his influence across every facet of his team’s attack, and dominates all of those facets.



7. Direct Free-kick goals

Lionel Messi: 36
Cristiano Ronaldo: 30
Miralem Pjanic: 16
Juan Arango: 16
Andrea Pirlo: 16

Messi’s free-kick dominance extends even over Cristiano’s Manchester United period when the Portuguese was lethal from dead-ball situations. Other specialists like new team-mate Pjanic and the hipster legend Pirlo aren’t even close, seeing their totals doubled by Messi.



8. Goals from outside the box

Lionel Messi: 79
Cristiano Ronaldo: 58
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 37

Messi is football’s deadliest sniper, rifling in more goals from distance than anyone else, even Cristiano Ronaldo and the mighty Zlatan Ibrahimovic.


Messi can dribble to shoot from close, he can shoot straight-up from range, he can thread the eye of the needle with a pass and he can do all this while playing almost every game possible. That he only dropped out of one of the above top threes when his metrics were placed against the very best Europe can offer says it all.

Completely dominated world football for the past 14 years.

The best player in the world, bar none.
What Stat padding is this?
Politics › Re: Mc Oluomo: Let Me Lose All I Worked For If I Sent Thugs To Beat Up Protesters by Karleb(m): 6:55pm On Oct 15, 2020
Fear catch am! grin
Werey! Soro soke!
Politics › Re: EndSARS: How Protesters Were Fed Across The Country By Brands & Individuals by Karleb(m): 6:53pm On Oct 15, 2020
They said they'll show premier league at Toll gate on Saturday. grin grin grin
Oh Lord! When will I move to Lagos or at least Ibadan? cry sad'
Politics › Re: Gbajabiamila: It’s Time To Sit Back, See If Govt Will Fulfill Its Promises by Karleb(m): 6:50pm On Oct 15, 2020
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Crime › Re: Private Security Teams At Ikeja & Lekki EndSARS Protest To Ward Off Thug Attacks by Karleb(m): 6:47pm On Oct 15, 2020
O boy eh! grin
Business › Re: Stripe Acquires Nigeria’s Paystack For $200 Million To Expand Into Africa by Karleb(m): 5:35pm On Oct 15, 2020
CSTRR:
Yes, a billion dollars is peanuts when you consider that YouTube is worth $300b today.

If the cost of maintaining YouTube was great, he could have gotten outside investment without completely losing ownership.
Zukerbag was just a student when he founded Facebook.
He did not sell Facebook because of the cost of maintainace even when bill gates made an offer.
He was smarter than most grown men.

Yes, the previous owner of YouTube IS a millionaire by all standards.
But he could have been a billionaire today without needing to invest in various start ups.
How easy is it to get investors to invest in technology in Nigeria?

How many Nigerian billionaire invested Paystack till today when Stripe a foreign company were busy putting money in Paystack?

I can't blame those young men. Besides, github got acquired recently. Whatsapp also got acquired.

Yahoo is folding up in December. Blackberry is now extinct. Symbian is gone.

Technology companies are also not immune to death.

When you consider these you'd realize that getting acquired isn't so bad.

I wouldn't have sold though.
Politics › Re: EndSARS: Communique From The Governors’ Meeting With IGP by Karleb(m): 4:58pm On Oct 15, 2020
This is making sense.

But let it be know that SWAT or whatever they call it should be scrapped completely!

If the northern need something like "Amotekun", they should create one.
Politics › Re: ENDSARS: Sheikh Musa Asadus Sunnah Tells FG To Be Brutal On Protesters by Karleb(m): 4:49pm On Oct 15, 2020
Low budget idiot.
Business › Re: Stripe Acquires Nigeria’s Paystack For $200 Million To Expand Into Africa by Karleb(m): 4:08pm On Oct 15, 2020
All I see in that picture are

#EndSARS

#EndSarsNow

#SARSMUSTEND

#EndPoliceBrutality

#EndYouthProfiling


Who would have thought a guy on dread would be a co-founder of a $200, 000, 000 plus company?
Programming › Re: Paystack Sold For Over $200 Million by Karleb(op): 3:53pm On Oct 15, 2020
codeigniter:
haaa, shola fumbled though the money is much and stripe has been supporting them from onset, but not everything is money. paystack is no longer Nigerian owned
It's easy to say this when you're not in his shoes. cheesy

Stripe is Paystack's number 1 benefactor.

I don't really think Stripe is taking over like that , he'll still be in charge of the company but he now works for the oga at the top as an important stakeholder/shareholder.

It'll be like what Microsoft did with Github.
Programming › Paystack Sold For Over $200 Million by Karleb(op): 2:43pm On Oct 15, 2020
Somebody help me, I can't feel my legs. cry
Phones › Re: Yahoo Groups To Shut Down December 15 by Karleb(m): 1:24pm On Oct 15, 2020
What about yahoo mail? They had better sell that to a company willing to buy.
I like yahoo mails.
Politics › Re: Buhari Rejects Buratai’s Request To Deploy Soldiers For EndSARS by Karleb(m): 7:23am On Oct 15, 2020
Animals! They simply want to start shooting protesters that are armed with their voices and placard.


This will actually become the end of an era if such rubbish is ever considered.
Politics › Re: Lagos CP Debriefs Disbanded SARS And Tactical Teams In Lagos by Karleb(m): 9:31pm On Oct 14, 2020
Them change container con leave content.

#EndSWAT
Politics › Re: Nigeria May Shut Down Internet As #EndSARS Protests Continue - The Guardian by Karleb(m): 8:34pm On Oct 14, 2020
The country has more to lose.
Politics › Re: Some People Made Billions From EndSARS Protest - Sowore by Karleb(m): 8:26pm On Oct 14, 2020
Sowore is an idiott.

That does not mean his statement is true or false.

He should tell us how much he made from RevolutionNow.
Education › Re: Why Lion Is The King Of The Beasts [shocking Photos Speak] by Karleb(m): 6:51am On Oct 14, 2020
undecided lipsrsealed

Education › Re: Why Lion Is The King Of The Beasts [shocking Photos Speak] by Karleb(m): 6:21am On Oct 14, 2020
I don't respect animals that hunt in group.
Lions are overrated.
Politics › Re: Keyamo: Some EndSARS Protesters Displaying Mob Mentality by Karleb(m): 5:59am On Oct 14, 2020
Tarh!!! Shut up there!
Lion!
Politics › Re: James Nwafor; The Now Retired SARS Killer Of Awkuzu SARS Anambra State (photos) by Karleb(m): 8:25pm On Oct 13, 2020
Ibo killing Ibo. Yoruba killing Yoruba.

The SARS menace touch all major tribes in the south significantly, no wonder everyone was passionate about it.
Politics › Re: IGP Announces SWAT To Replace Scrapped SARS by Karleb(m): 8:10pm On Oct 13, 2020
We no want. I say we no want!
Crime › Re: Kaduna Residents Join #ENDSARS Protest (video) by Karleb(m): 7:16pm On Oct 13, 2020
...and some adults in benue are embarrassing their generation for a tuber of yam!
Travel › Re: Policemen Had Accident On Akure Airport Road And Died Instantly by Karleb(m): 6:50pm On Oct 13, 2020
May their souls rest.
Politics › Re: IGP Sets Up New Unit, Orders all Ex-SARS Operatives To Report To Force HQ by Karleb(m): 6:49pm On Oct 13, 2020
This SWAT, I hope they won't turn out to be as or worse than SARS.
Politics › Re: #EndSARS Protesters Lock Down Osogbo by Karleb(m): 4:32pm On Oct 13, 2020
Block everywhere! Scatter everywhere!!



Their father!!!


#EndSARS

#EndSarsNow

#EndPoliceBrutality

#SARSMUSTEND

#EndPoliceBrutality
Sports › Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Tests Positive For Coronavirus by Karleb(m): 4:29pm On Oct 13, 2020
Get well soon Ororo!
#EndSARS
Celebrities › Re: EndSARS: Daddy Freeze Slams Churches And General Overseers Over Silence by Karleb(m): 3:42pm On Oct 13, 2020
If it were about to pay or to not pay tithe, dem go dey make mouth.
Even our Muslim and traditional leaders are not left out.
Shout out to oni of ife!

#EndSARS

#ENDSARSNOW
Health › Re: COVID-19 Update For October 12 2020 In Nigeria - (4,307 Tested) by Karleb(m): 3:08pm On Oct 13, 2020
COVID-19 is killing but what about the Nigerian Police/SARS?


#ENDSARSNOW


#ENDSARS


#ENDPOLICEBRUTALITY


#SARSMUSTEND
Politics › Re: Governor Sanwo-Olu Joins EndSARS Protest, Carries #EndPoliceBrutality Placard by Karleb(m): 2:57pm On Oct 13, 2020
Some people will feel like drinking ota piapia (rat poison), truth is, even the governor can not control the police.

A whole oni of ife's daughter was harassed.

FG need to first sack the IGP and restructure the whole policing and security ministry in the country.

#EndSARS

#EndSarsNow

#SARSMUSTEND
Crime › Re: Man Beaten Mercilessly By Ogun Parking Management Officers (Photos) by Karleb(m): 1:33pm On Oct 13, 2020
#EndSARS
Celebrities › Re: Bobrisky: Why I Am Not Participating In #EndSARS Protest by Karleb(m): 12:59pm On Oct 13, 2020
Wait till the that your brother is killed for owing a smart phone you bought for him and your 85yr old grand mother dies of stroke after being beaten to a pulp for complaining that your brother was killed unjustly.


#SarsMustEnd
Politics › Re: #EndSARS: Sagay Says FG May Forcefully End Protests If Youths Continue by Karleb(m): 9:31am On Oct 13, 2020
Forcefully end it by killing protesters or do they have any better idea.
#SARSMUSTEND

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