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Mr Ola, we were addressing the Trinity to which we await response from you. Thank U

On the public stage, homosexuality should be decriminalized, and left to be a matter of conscience.

tgirl1986: I need answers, not stories...slave trade, zimbambwe..e.t.c no two situations are exactly the same..doesn't change what i saw with my own eyes..before then i myself never believed all those stuff..maybe i was hallucinating , but then i wasn't the only one who saw it..which means a lot of people were hallucinating...i need answers

A problem is: you couldn't see the projectile of the bullets, and can't ascertain if they were missed shots. Besides, what do students know about marksmanship?!

A slave cannot love a master, love can only exist btw two equals and its mutual.

Is a tutsi baby born in Rwanda in 1994, exposed to the elements and left to starve to death by genocidaires being tried by God??

Enigma: First things first. May God and Jesus Christ give you witness in your heart and in your mind of the truth of the Good News i.e. of the Gospel. That is more important than anything.

Second: be warned that a lot of interpretations of the Bible and claims about what the Bible says, even church sermons are not (full) truths. {In a sense some church sermons can be compared to the Midrash ---- not reliable for a considerable part}

Third, you may need to spend more time trying to make sense in your own way of what the Bible is saying.

Finally, the questions you are asking are good questions; some of them have always baffled and will always baffle.

Best wishes

You failed to establish the rules of interpretation, and the validity of the rules.

@Ola

Jesus = 1 person

Holy Spirit = 1 person

The Father = 1 person.

As persons they are seperable and distinct.

However if Jesus+Holy Spirit+the Father = GODhead

Godhead is not = Jesus; since its of a set of three members.
In other words 1+1+1=3. 3 is not = 1

The alternative is 1=1=1=1;

Jesus=Holy Spirit=the Father=Godhead,

Thus Jesus = God, and Jesus = HolySpirit.

In other words 1x1x1=1

tgirl1986: i have seen a guy been sprayed with bullets, jogging away like they were rubber bullets. This happened in a university in d nigerdelta region. Hw do u explain dat without believing in d spirit realm? Does science have an explanation? Pls i want to know

*cough* while someone was spraying these bullets, did you duck at any point? Or you just stood there watching everything like a movie?

You mentioned 1 x 1 x 1, which accounts for only one person.

Sthnesis has no case!! He is just making banter!

tgirl1986: wow! This will neva end. Me i chose to believe in God..It's a matter of choice, do whateva suits you...tried the no spirituality tin and i felt like an animal..you dnt believe in a supreme being, but believe in whatever science cooks up, then science is your god..i dont tink any atheist here has carried out any experiments for themselves to prove evolution or whateva u believe in...science has failed one too many times, thats why they keep revising what they have done and continue to make modifications..i refuse to put my absolute trust in it ..and i realized that most of diseases we suffer from today is actually d product of our so called advancement in technology..

For God to breathe, knowledge must die. The search for truth is not bad or evil. Your statement further supports the assertion that Science and religion must conflict

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If I said God was the Devil and a liar, you don't have much of an objection.

Incomprehensible attribute doesn't cover partial understanding. It points at the inability of understanding/ knowledge to cover such subject.

OLAADEGBU: Yes, and yet they are One. 1 x 1 x 1 = 1

Yea I agree with you. But you have not accounted for the holy spirit and Jesus.

OLAADEGBU: Jesus Christ is the Uncreated Creator and redeemer of our souls.

I thought God was the Creator?

Goshen360: You can truly know God but you cannot fully understand/know God.

The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law. Deut 29:29 kjv.

This verse shows that NOT ALL THINGS are revealed. So how do you FULLY comprehend/know when not all thing are revealed?

Didn't you just contradict yourself.

Goshen360: @ ijawkid,

I don't know OR understand why this thing is too mysterious for you to understand.lolz. Anyway, am not going into that today. I will save it for next time. The bible calls this "Godhead" a mystery and it is what it is,okay. In truth, God is incomprehensible. We might not be able to fathom God in totality (Psalm 139:6; 145:3, Romans 11:33-36) however, we can truly know God because He created us in His image, gave us His word, gave us revelation of himself even though we cannot fully God, we may know him truly. Deut 29:29. Human speculations about God is never sufficient to lead us to the full knowledge of God.

Can I give you a puzzle to solve....if you can?

When you hear the word "Godhead" what does it imply to you?

God is incomprehensible, how did you know that?

OLAADEGBU: So who do you think Jesus is? Was He a created being or the uncreated Creator?

Jesus and God are both creators?

OLAADEGBU: You should note that the second Person was praying, talking to the first Person in the Godhead.

You have just identified two seperate persons!!

No man is perfect lagisshia. Your religion lied to you.

Oga joe4christ, if you surprised at the design of our solar system, pls what is responsible for combing the will to create and power to, in God??

LagosShia: Shia Muslim Interpretation of Prophet Adam (as) In the Garden

firstly,i must say that all muslims do not believe in "original sin" and each person is responsible for his or her own action.

1.) God created Adam to inhabit the earth and reproduce

2.) Adam's stay in the garden was ordained by God to be temporary,regardless of the way that would lead Adam to earth

3.) the tree Adam ate from was a divine plan and design by God to teach Adam.

4.) God telling Adam not to eat from the tree was no a legislative order as there was no shariah then.it was an advicery order.it is like when you tell your kid not to jump from a high table.if he does and injures himself,then he would learn the consequence of falling.but him jumping does not mean he has disobeyed you in a way demanding punishment afterwards.

5.) without Adam eating from the tree,Adam could not have had the power to procreate.therefore the tree is a blessing.

6.) when God told Adam not to eat from the tree or else he would be among the "zalimeen",God was telling him if he eats from the tree he would be burdened and his life of trial on earth will commence.the word "zulm" can also mean burdensome.

7.) God was able to demonstrate to Adam who his real enemy (i.e. the devil) is.Adam had never witnessed anyone lying and the devil was first.after eating from the tree,God also taught Adam the art of repentance (returning to God) when the devil tries to pull you away.from that point on,it became clear to Adam who the enemy was and how he must receive guidance from Allah.

8.) in Shia Islam all prophets,messengers,and divinely appointed imams are innocent and sinless.

The real Gods have included themselves in the scheme of things. They are the imams, prophets who are able to justify their actions and treachery with a veil of holiness and God. A man tells you he is sinless and you believe?!

C'mon!

tbaba1234: For a woman, she can seek peaceful reconciliation or a peaceful separation

"And if a woman fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no sin on them both if they make terms of peace between themselves; and making peace is better. And human inner-selves are swayed by greed. But if you do good and keep away from evil, verily, Allah is Ever Well-Acquainted with what you do. "(4:12

Why can't the woman hit the man, since hitting "lightly" is very effective?

tbaba1234: 1. You need to look at the commentary of the author and it will be cleared up. I will also show you the opinions of ancient scholars.

As to those women on whose part you see ill¬conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great - English (Dr moshin)

Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their, beds (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). (yusuf Ali)

So, the righteous women are obedient, (and) guard (the property and honor of their husbands) in (their) absence with the protection given by Allah. As for women of whom you fear rebellion, convince them, and leave them apart in beds, and beat them. 19 Then, if they obey you, do not seek a way against them. Surely, Allah is the Highest, the Greatest. Translation by mufti taqi usman ( he gave a commentary that explained what "beat" is)

Tafsirs (commentary) of the QURAN BY ANCIENT SCHOLARS from the time of the prophet

Ibn abbass (a companion of prophet Mohammed)

As for those from whom ye fear) know (rebellion) their disobedience to you in bed, (admonish them) by means of sacred knowledge and the Qur'an (and banish them to beds apart) turn your faces away from them in bed, (and scourge them) in a mild, unexaggerated manner. (Then if they obey you) in bed, (seek not a way against them) as regards love.

Ibn Jalalyn ( Year: 1459)

admonish them, make them fear God, and share not beds with them, retire to other beds if they manifest such disobedience, and strike them, but not violently, if they refuse to desist [from their rebellion] after leaving them [in separate beds].

Ibn `Abbas and several others said that the Ayah refers to a beating that is not violent. Al-Hasan Al-Basri said that it means, a beating that is not severe.

A light hit.

That is five form the translation and commentary...

Note: picktal (another popular translation) uses the word "scourge" but commentaries explain what that means.


2.you and this your GF sef....

3.The Adam and Eve story in the Quran is different in many ways: I do believe it wholeheartedly because the muslim version makes a lot more sense. I will start a thread on that soon. Trust me if you know a little about the Quran, you will be swept off your feet or at the very least appreciative of its literary prowess. I am still at an elementary stage and by Allah, i have been amazed time and time again. The only conclusion for me is a divine origin.

4. The traditional roles are that the man takes care of the financial needs of the home. The important thing is that they work as a partnership to make the home work.

The Quran states: "They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them" (Noble Quran 2:187)




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can a woman also hit her man "lightly" for the desired effect of obedience?

ijawkid: @logic mind...please what's wrong with men or husbands superior to women?


Is that not nature my freind??

Been superior doesn't mean d men shuld beat d women but that they have greater authority than women do...

And why are women inferior to men?

Hmmm. . . Incriminating BUT they are not real muslims. Besides you might get banned soon for not saying good things about Islam.

If I respond unfavourably, I would will condemned as being disrespectful to Islam. And Islam doesn't like criticism. That's why the Kuwaiti parliament being all muslims, passed a law punishing blasphemy with the death penalty. Why? Because Islam is too "peace"

I can argue that I'm a prisoner to laws

@image123

Planes fly not men. Man is always bound by necessity.

Bro, I didn't say the spiritual world didn't exist. I only said it would be substantial different from the "shadow". Thus anyone's account which doesn't reflect that difference is obviously a liar.

Since the physical is of energy and matter; what substance is the spiritual world made of.

Thank you.

joe4christ: Please i'm not here for arguement, if u think allah can save you pls hold tight to him.

But i can categorically tell you with all certainty that only Jesus can save, there is no other way to everlasting life but through Jesus, but it's quite unfortunate that most have missed it already.

I know you stated the above just to get me say something you would capitalise on to desrupt my thread, but i did'nt create this thread for argument, i created this thread for the record of it and so it would stand as a testimony to the fact that you once heard the gospel preached to you but your choosed to turn deaf ears to it.

Deep withen you all u know there must be an intelligent being behind the design of the whole universe but u keep on fighting it, even though u have your doubt u still known there are possibilities of it being true.

Jesus is behind it, if u still do not admit it now you would, someday, but i just hope it would'nt be too late.

Bless you all!

I think you are stressing on the weaknesses of your God. He relies on you to carry on his words and his words lack conviction also. He has also failed to justify faith.

Image123: That's correct. It's such awesome power God bestowed on man.

Can you fly?

I don't see any good in "obeying" God. He can only serve his interest