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Politics / Re: Why Nigeria Sells Electricity To Niger, Benin Republic – Fashola by Kay17: 7:46am On Jul 12, 2017
ElSherriff:
Fashola we trusted you, now you are spewing this nonsense? Which dam? ehn? stop selling to them, when they overflow the dam, sanction them. sell something else not what you do not have in abundance.

Niger river flows across several West African countries before it reaches Nigeria. You wouldn't want those countries damming the river and thereby deprive you of a main source

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Phones / Re: Is This The End Of Etisalat Nigeria? by Kay17: 7:44am On Jul 12, 2017
Nltaliban:
It's no longer news that Etisalat is backing out from Nigeria after CBN in collaboration with some banks took over the company. 

Am not a marketer or something, but I don't want to be sentimental. The truth is ETISALAT NIGERIA GOT LOAN FROM THE BANK WHEN EXCHANGE RATE WAS FAVORABLE, WHEN NIGERIA WAS TOGETHER. HOPING TO PAY BACK AT THE SAME RATE. but looking at how the exchange rate has skyrocketed, one would know that it's wouldn't be the same for Etisalat Nigeria the exchange rate is now twice of the amount it was when the acquired the loan. Meaning that the would be paying twice the amount they loaned INTEREST NOT INCLUDED this is cruelty at its peak. 

I think the federal government should just step into this before Nigeria looses all its potential investors. 

Why do i have a feeling that you are one off those in the restructure federalist gangs roaming round the public space.

The Federal government is not father Christmas
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 6:19am On Jul 05, 2017
jpphilips:


Nnamdi kanu speaks to people like you with half education, people like us school kanu, I saw the video where he said should Nigeria seize Biafran properties, biafra will reclaim it in court, to you, he made sense to us he is talking trash.
Israel seized Golan heights since the end of the 6days war, Syria is tired of going to court what has happened? West bank and gaza strip nko? Niger delta abandoned properties nko? continue listening to a lunatic!!

There is no supranational court that has extra territorial jurisdiction over lands
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 11:16am On Jul 04, 2017
seunmsg:


I am not too sure you understand the subject of discussion deeply. A violent break up is very possible. If Nigeria goes to war again with Biafra and the later wins, they will have their country and there is nothing anybody can do about it. The war can also end in a stalemate that will necessitate an amicable settlement where the contending parties will breakup the country into as many parts as the contenders want. Don't assume that Nigeria will always win in the event of a civil war.

Now to the issue of citizenship, trust me, no single IBO person will be allowed to own a pin in Nigeria (if the country still remains) once Biafra is achieved. Forget about the deceit of constitutional or international law. IBOs have already made themselves enemies to every tribe in Nigeria with the way they are going about their agitation. People will be so happy to see them go and not a single of them will be allowed to stay. IBO is IBO irrespective of whatever relationship the person has with people of other tribe. They cannot be allowed to remain in Nigeria under any guise.

The aim of this thread is very narrow legal question. Apparently i answered to the best of my ability. But you don't seem to have any legal authority backing your assertions especially the futuristic intentions of the government.
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 10:02am On Jul 04, 2017
Dumaknesset:



You are correct, Nigerian government can enter into a valid agreement with foreigners but not a stateless person or unrecognized nation like Biafra, neither can they ratify such existing contract as same will have been vitiated by their act of secession, since they stopped being Nigerians. They are no longer persons in law.

This situation is such a dilemma because for the contracts to be invalid on the ground of being enemies of Nigeria Biafra must be recognized as least as an enemy. On the other hand, the Nigerian government can pretend Biafra doesn't exist and allow the Biafrans their full rights as Nigerians
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 8:52am On Jul 04, 2017
pazienza:


Go and find out if Southern Sudan are in any bit interested in forming a new Union with the Northern Sudan, no matter how bad their present condition might be, they have a bright future, because they have freedom and so have their destiny in their hands to make or mar!

Freedom is priceless. For a person used to living in a failed British colonial estate, I don't expect you to understand that.

The first problem with freedom is that it can be too abstract and intangible, and too susceptible to subjectivity.
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 8:49am On Jul 04, 2017
seunmsg:


Don't get it twisted at all, the day Biafra secedes legally, all Igbos living in any part of Nigeria will be doing so illegally. Government may round up all of them and throw them into prison or dump them at the Onitsha bridge depending on how the break up occurred. Nigeria's breakup will either be violent or on very hostile terms if violence is not involved. You people will be entitled to absolutely nothing once you succeed in breaking up the country. I will advice you all start selling your belongings now and relocate the ones that can be relocated to the east before it is too late. Igbos will not be allowed to own a pin in Nigeria once Biafra secedes. You cannot eat your cake and still have it.

It depends on how the question of citizenship is settled.

To be a Nigerian, one must have either Nigerian parents or Nigerian grandparents. So if a Biafran has a Nigerian parent or grandparent he automatically remains a Nigerian except if the Constitution is altered to reflect otherwise. This position will apply whether or not Biafra secedes violently or through diplomacy.

Now if there is a violent secession the Nigerian government will not recognize the new state of Biafra nor its citizens. In its eyes the Biafran citizens remain Nigerians with all the rights and obligations owed to a Nigerian.

Similarly the constitutional rights remain guaranteed irrespective of the civil war except a state of emergency is declared within a territory or state.
Crime / Re: 3 Badoo Members Burnt To Death In Ikorodu Today (Graphic Pics, Video) by Kay17: 8:06am On Jul 04, 2017
Sleezwizz:



I don't have any explanation to give u mr Kay abi wetin b ur name. Possibility of an error kor. When badoo boys come knocking at your door ask them for evidence... Mtcheewww

Apparently as rightly suspected the people lynched were as innocent as doves. Hustling innocent people were killed out of panic and fear
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 6:39am On Jul 04, 2017
jpphilips:


C OF O is a tenancy agreement between the bearer and the Nigerian Government. If you denounce Nigeria, no previous legal agreement you have with Nigeria is binding, so the moment you accepted to Join Biafra, you have officially annulled your C of O.


You are proceeding on the assumption that a Nigerian or the Nigerian government cannot enter into a valid legal agreement with a foreigner. Which if true, implies that the scores of MoUs signed with foreign investors are consequently invalid
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 6:33am On Jul 04, 2017
Dumaknesset:
When I say Igbos don't think things through, you would not believe me, so you have not thought about it, yet you want secession.

I am a lawyer and here is a legal dimension.

First note that all lands in Nigeria by virtue of the Land Use Act, 1978 is owned by the state, federal government and local government accordingly. Developed parts are owned by the state through the state governor, the undeveloped parts are owned by the local government, while those areas acquired by federal government are owned by the Federal government.

Individuals and even corporate organizations are mere tenants to the the real owners, the governments! hence, the issuance of cofo, consent, excision, ratifications et al.

Once a property is abandoned as it will be, when the biafrans bolt, the properties will revert to the real owners that is the state government, local government or federal government vide a legal principle called bona vacantia.

Note the legal principle of quic quid plantatur solo solo cedit, he who owes the land owes what is on it, all the developments on the lands become that of the real owner.

All the biafrans properties will become that of Lagos state government, it will be the largest real estate deal in the world since igbos own 90 percent of real estate in Lagos state and Afonjas only own 0.2 percent of real estate in the east.

But where the Biafran does not bolt, wouldn't he still be the owner of the land?

The principle of bona vacantia will coincide with the 12 year rule of adverse possession because there must either be a positive act of abandonment or passivity to an adverse possession
Politics / Re: Does Secession From A Country Make an Individual Lose His Personal Property? by Kay17: 6:25am On Jul 04, 2017
thesicilian:
As a lay person I do not think secession should affect personal property unless the owner decides to leave his property behind and move home. That Biafra is now a separate country does not mean all Igbo's have to leave the North, West or South. I think it is just the barbaric nature of many Nigerians to reap where they do not sow that will make them want to take advantage of the situation to loot and force people out of their own homes.

@emmadejust

Aliens cannot own real property in Nigeria and one is either a citizen or an alien. In this case once a separatist secedes to another state and loses his citizenship, he automatically becomes an alien.

Except he incorporates a company or SPV in Nigeria in order to hold the real property he had. Or set up a trust settlement over the land where he would transfer it to. Nigerian who will hold it subject to the alien's benefit.

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Celebrities / Re: OAP Dami Shares Story Of How Her Friend Ruined Her Life With A HIV Infected Man by Kay17: 6:19am On Jul 04, 2017
sammydirectly:
It doesn't add up. The girl got HIV, but the guy went on to have one more baby with the new girl and he is happy ever after?

Too much lies

He sowed the seeds of disillusionment into her life which caused her to live in an abandoned way not caring for her safety. That was the second narrative i could make out of the story.
Crime / Re: 3 Badoo Members Burnt To Death In Ikorodu Today (Graphic Pics, Video) by Kay17: 6:10am On Jul 03, 2017
No one even has the idea whether this was the same Badoo gang that is responsible for the recent murder of the family or another one. No one can say with certainty that it will stop because of this.

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Crime / Re: 3 Badoo Members Burnt To Death In Ikorodu Today (Graphic Pics, Video) by Kay17: 6:05am On Jul 03, 2017
Donbabaj:


Sorry are you a Nigerian? I grew up seeing all of these and I learnt a lesson never to join bad gangs.

The bad gangs hardly get the justice they deserve.
Crime / Re: 3 Badoo Members Burnt To Death In Ikorodu Today (Graphic Pics, Video) by Kay17: 6:00am On Jul 03, 2017
Sleezwizz:
I just wonder how some senseless people come here to comment saying the ongoing jungle justice of suspected badoo cult members around ikorodu area must stop.

This badoo guys don't have mercy at all, I wish u guys could witness how they enter innocent family houses, killing husbands, wives and children.

Butchering innocent people like cow meat.

Concerning those guys that were killed today. What were they doing with charms, diesel and stones in their car?


Your key word is "suspected" Badoo members which implies that there is a margin of error to implicate a non member. You can't run away from that.

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Crime / Re: 3 Badoo Members Burnt To Death In Ikorodu Today (Graphic Pics, Video) by Kay17: 11:05pm On Jul 02, 2017
Sleezwizz:
I just wonder how some senseless people come here to comment saying the ongoing jungle justice of suspected badoo cult members around ikorodu area must stop.

This badoo guys don't have mercy at all, I wish u guys could witness how they enter innocent family houses, killing husbands, wives and children.

Butchering innocent people like cow meat.

Concerning those guys that were killed today. What were they doing with charms, diesel and stones in their car?


But where is the evidence of the oil, the grinding stone and the charms?

You were told that and you believed hook line and sinker without questions. Besides it was midnight this happened there is the possibility of an error
Business / Re: Dangote Secures $1b Funding Package From Afreximbank by Kay17: 8:24am On Jul 02, 2017
HenryDion:
grin The good thing about being an entrepreneur is this, the higher you go, the easier it becomes.

Do you know what scares lots of people? The beginning. I've got to tell you the truth, the earlier stages of entrepreneurship is hell. You won't sleep.. your finances will be drained.. Everything will be affected. But as you keep pushing forward, it keeps getting easier.

it gets to a stage where you've to sleep for a whole year and still, the cash keeps rolling in. You don't get confined by bosses.. you're the boss and you more the rules.

Entrepreneurs retire early in life. The remaining years of their life is built on impact. You see them writing books, creating blogs, organising seminars.. just to keep life going. Just to have a purpose every morning.

As they play and sleep, their multiple streams of income keeps getting bigger as slaves toil on them daily.. slaves we usually call employees. grin www.entmirror.com

What sort of entrepreneur do you have in mind?
Politics / Re: Dino Melaye Recall: Affidavit Sworn By Lady In Court by Kay17: 8:21pm On Jun 29, 2017
She appears to speak for others and herself. One wonders the "we" testimony
Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 8:49pm On Jun 26, 2017
kingzizzy:


Dont use America in this context, America is not a nation of indigenous people like Nigeria is. Igbos have routinely slaughtered in Nigeria since 1945 to this day and you are asking them to give up their agitation to their God given right to freedom to embrace a country that killed them in the millions in the name of a united Nigeria.

Nigeria is but the mere artificial creation of the white man. That the British forced all of us together does not mean we have to carry on forcing each to be together. Nobody gave their consent to the creation of Nigeria so Nigeria is illegal

They should stop all this nonsense and give Igbos a referendum so we get out this burning house of Lord Lugard called Nigeria

1. You mentioned Igbos are regularly slaughtered without stating if such incidents are state sponsored or at least have a wide community support across Northern Nigeria or spontaneous clashes.

2. Nigeria is clearly an incident from an imperial conquest but that is how history works! No one comes together to create a state. Usually there are pre-existing conditions that catalyze nation building just as how Biafra comes to exist and Igbo consciousness grows. Biafra has only as much legitimacy as Nigeria.
Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 8:43pm On Jun 26, 2017
belzabull:
Ermm...your concerned is noted, however I feel obliged to inform you that there is not only an economic blue print but also an administrative blue print by the IPOB leadership on governance and survival of the proposed Biafran nation, so worry less about that and worry more about what will be left of your country after a split.

I am sure you are one of those who told whoever cared to listen that buhari was the best thing after sliced bread, today you are gnashing your teeth over his obviously leadership flaws- the point is, you should worry more about making the right decision/ choices for yourselves and let those who believe in the Biafran course worry about theirs.

On domineering, the thing is people like you just pick up a line albeit a lie from someone or social media and begin to use shamelessly even when you don't understand what it means or the context in which it's being used, otherwise if you do, an apology from you stereotyping would have been needless.

Just like you keep making baseless assumptions with using South Sudan as an example, forgetting or being oblivious of the fact that former USSR split into about 15 country each of which is thousand times better than your country.

Sometimes it good to speak with knowledge and not revel in ignorance just because some fellow uninformed persons and out of mischief too, chose to peddle such falsehood/misinformation.

All in all, do not worry about how 'body go tell' us, rather worry about how you'll be shitting in your pant when the time comes

#bye

1. You speak like the very act of breaking up a country is a harbinger of good fortune and incredible success. You mention the mighty USSR and indicate that the constituents are successful without any other light shed on their socio economic and political circumstances. Yet you praise knowledge but you don't practise it.

2. What is this economic and administrative blueprint the IPOB have? Why is it made a top secret and not revealed to the very people who need it. The blueprint is the litmus test for the success of a secession. It is the equivalent of a business plan upon which the success of a business is adjudged.

3. I understand that Buhari's govt hasnt being the most inspiring one and his policies are unpopular. Yet you don't seem to appreciate the forces of the global economy and its impact on us. And it's impact on a fragile Biafra

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Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 8:17pm On Jun 26, 2017
Lobolintin:



Ohaneze idigbo had set up a committee on that ..brother too late

IPOB doesnt have a latent ideology that addresses the concerns of the underprivileged and lower class in the East. This is why the elite will hijack this IPOB "revolution" by having committees which have the concerns of the elite in mind.

No one governs well with committees

At least you agree that IPOB hasn't weighed the economic consequences of a probable secession not to speak of the other issues like citizenship, property rights, human rights etc
Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 2:24pm On Jun 25, 2017
magoo10:

It is evidently clear that Igbo's are self sufficient so don't worry yourself about economic plans my brother,even after the war only 20pounds was paid back into the accounts of igbos not minding how much each of them had in their accounts. after the war so many igbos lost their properties and belongings but today they have them replenished. so if you ask mW I will say that your question is childish when you are talking about an average Igbo man.there are more serious hurdles to worry about and not that

Because you believe Igbos are such a special race that plans and visions don't matter, right?

Would you have a right to criticize Nigerians for believing that by virtue of being Nigerians they don't need plans and visions?

I appreciate your comment on me being childish for thinking ahead

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Religion / Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Kay17: 2:21pm On Jun 25, 2017
hahn:


Of course not. If you commit a crime pay the time. That is the essence of responsibility. That is why we call ourselves adults

That said, god does not have the right to punish anyone for sin because it created sin and created us with full knowledge of our sins before we even commit them, if the claim of it being omniscient and omnipresent are anything to go by, and therefore the responsibility of our crimes rest on it

Fortunately, men of the judiciary know to ignore god when passing sentences because they understand every man is responsible for his actions

I am yet to see a single criminal that was found guilty and allowed to walk free just because he/she is a "born again" Christian

Yea but restitution is a form of redemption. The idea of being responsible by paying back for what you have done. In this way we are saying the same thing.
Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 2:19pm On Jun 25, 2017
magoo10:

Even when major stakeholders of other tribes agreed to restructuring the north have constantly rejected it,we cannot continue to beg them and still they shit on our face to tell us not to go peacefully.
since restructuring cannot work secession becomes the best and accommodating option

When you say the North who do you have in mind? Is it the Middle Belt or the Hausas or Fulanis or the Kanuris?

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Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 2:16pm On Jun 25, 2017
magoo10:

Who are you for Nnamdi KANU to reveal his economic plan to? you are free to join the movement if you need info on the economic plan

The summary is that there is no economic plan or other plans. Just mere rhetoric and propaganda which poor people are easily susceptible to

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Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 2:12pm On Jun 25, 2017
nonhuman:
most of u guys just come out here to type rubbish without research have ever listen to radio Biafra since inception why are u saying what u don't know Biafra already have a political and economic road map and will never depend on oil . Igbo's are not fool s

What's Biafra's economic policy and what type of federal constitution do you

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Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 2:11pm On Jun 25, 2017
magoo10:

keep waiting for Nnamdi KANU to give you an economic road map .where is Nigeria today with all the economic road maps? now they are talking of vision 2030 after so many vision whatever has been postulated. let's have Biafra first economic road map is not an issue ,an Igbo man will always cross the bridge when we get there as long as economy is concerned

This means that there is no plan ahead. You are embarking on a multi billion dollar project yet you have no plans and no idea of what obstacles are in the way.

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Religion / Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Kay17: 1:43pm On Jun 25, 2017
hahn:
This is how Christianity promotes immorality

It is like a pedophile that is on trial for murdering his victim allowed to go free simply because he knows the son of the judge and the state cancels his record of pedophilia. It is absolute nonsense and it is really baffling that adults can peddle such nonsense arrogantly in public

Bunch of ignoramuses who try to apply ancient ignorant barbarism in the modern world



Don't you think there should be redemption for everyone?
Politics / Re: Doyin Okupe: Wept, Saw Hopelessness When IPOB Members Were Waving Biafran Flags by Kay17: 1:14pm On Jun 25, 2017
Hasn't anyone noticed that Kanu has not laid an economic roadmap or suggested even a skeletal political structure for Biafra. There is neither a foreign policy. He dwells on the problems of Nigeria but never offers the solutions Biafra would offer.

How would the Biafran state survive without a reliable revenue base such as oil. Would Biafra be in a continual state of hostility with its Nigerian neighbour? What effect will that have on the Biafran economy?

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Romance / Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Kay17: 8:48am On Jun 22, 2017
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Don't men andoctor women have the same right to vote and work before?

Yes they do. Meaning gender equality is good!
Politics / Re: "We Have Resolved Nigeria Must Not Break" - Governors by Kay17: 8:46am On Jun 22, 2017
7footre:
No one is asking for war, we are asking for this nation to be restructured to benefit the common man. The status quo clearly benefits them, hence they bury their heads in d sand and act nonchalantly.


How is a restructure done to suit the common man? What are the needs of the common man that are satisfied by this restructuring?

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Romance / Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Kay17: 7:31am On Jun 21, 2017
Daboomb:


How is FAIRNESS or JUSTICE for every human, subjective terms?

Abeg explain, make l learn something new today.

Look social justice for example. What is social justice for the elite is different from social justice for the lower classes. The elite would claim their place is rightfully theirs because they or their ancestors worked and sweated for it. That they accumulated their wealth diligently. The poor will on the hand say the system is skewered against them. That they dont have the educational backgrounds and quality the elite have. I think socialism makes its stand on this.

So that's just one aspect of the whole concept of justice.

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