₦airaland Forum

jpphilips:
C OF O is a tenancy agreement between the bearer and the Nigerian Government. If you denounce Nigeria, no previous legal agreement you have with Nigeria is binding, so the moment you accepted to Join Biafra, you have officially annulled your C of O.

You are proceeding on the assumption that a Nigerian or the Nigerian government cannot enter into a valid legal agreement with a foreigner. Which if true, implies that the scores of MoUs signed with foreign investors are consequently invalid

Dumaknesset:
When I say Igbos don't think things through, you would not believe me, so you have not thought about it, yet you want secession.

I am a lawyer and here is a legal dimension.

First note that all lands in Nigeria by virtue of the Land Use Act, 1978 is owned by the state, federal government and local government accordingly. Developed parts are owned by the state through the state governor, the undeveloped parts are owned by the local government, while those areas acquired by federal government are owned by the Federal government.

Individuals and even corporate organizations are mere tenants to the the real owners, the governments! hence, the issuance of cofo, consent, excision, ratifications et al.

Once a property is abandoned as it will be, when the biafrans bolt, the properties will revert to the real owners that is the state government, local government or federal government vide a legal principle called bona vacantia.

Note the legal principle of quic quid plantatur solo solo cedit, he who owes the land owes what is on it, all the developments on the lands become that of the real owner.

All the biafrans properties will become that of Lagos state government, it will be the largest real estate deal in the world since igbos own 90 percent of real estate in Lagos state and Afonjas only own 0.2 percent of real estate in the east.

But where the Biafran does not bolt, wouldn't he still be the owner of the land?

The principle of bona vacantia will coincide with the 12 year rule of adverse possession because there must either be a positive act of abandonment or passivity to an adverse possession

thesicilian:
As a lay person I do not think secession should affect personal property unless the owner decides to leave his property behind and move home. That Biafra is now a separate country does not mean all Igbo's have to leave the North, West or South. I think it is just the barbaric nature of many Nigerians to reap where they do not sow that will make them want to take advantage of the situation to loot and force people out of their own homes.

@emmadejust

Aliens cannot own real property in Nigeria and one is either a citizen or an alien. In this case once a separatist secedes to another state and loses his citizenship, he automatically becomes an alien.

Except he incorporates a company or SPV in Nigeria in order to hold the real property he had. Or set up a trust settlement over the land where he would transfer it to. Nigerian who will hold it subject to the alien's benefit.

sammydirectly:
It doesn't add up. The girl got HIV, but the guy went on to have one more baby with the new girl and he is happy ever after?

Too much lies

He sowed the seeds of disillusionment into her life which caused her to live in an abandoned way not caring for her safety. That was the second narrative i could make out of the story.

No one even has the idea whether this was the same Badoo gang that is responsible for the recent murder of the family or another one. No one can say with certainty that it will stop because of this.

Donbabaj:
Sorry are you a Nigerian? I grew up seeing all of these and I learnt a lesson never to join bad gangs.

The bad gangs hardly get the justice they deserve.

Sleezwizz:
I just wonder how some senseless people come here to comment saying the ongoing jungle justice of suspected badoo cult members around ikorodu area must stop.

This badoo guys don't have mercy at all, I wish u guys could witness how they enter innocent family houses, killing husbands, wives and children.

Butchering innocent people like cow meat.

Concerning those guys that were killed today. What were they doing with charms, diesel and stones in their car?

Your key word is "suspected" Badoo members which implies that there is a margin of error to implicate a non member. You can't run away from that.

Sleezwizz:
I just wonder how some senseless people come here to comment saying the ongoing jungle justice of suspected badoo cult members around ikorodu area must stop.

This badoo guys don't have mercy at all, I wish u guys could witness how they enter innocent family houses, killing husbands, wives and children.

Butchering innocent people like cow meat.

Concerning those guys that were killed today. What were they doing with charms, diesel and stones in their car?

But where is the evidence of the oil, the grinding stone and the charms?

You were told that and you believed hook line and sinker without questions. Besides it was midnight this happened there is the possibility of an error

HenryDion:
The good thing about being an entrepreneur is this, the higher you go, the easier it becomes.

Do you know what scares lots of people? The beginning. I've got to tell you the truth, the earlier stages of entrepreneurship is hell. You won't sleep.. your finances will be drained.. Everything will be affected. But as you keep pushing forward, it keeps getting easier.

it gets to a stage where you've to sleep for a whole year and still, the cash keeps rolling in. You don't get confined by bosses.. you're the boss and you more the rules.

Entrepreneurs retire early in life. The remaining years of their life is built on impact. You see them writing books, creating blogs, organising seminars.. just to keep life going. Just to have a purpose every morning.

As they play and sleep, their multiple streams of income keeps getting bigger as slaves toil on them daily.. slaves we usually call employees. www.entmirror.com

What sort of entrepreneur do you have in mind?

She appears to speak for others and herself. One wonders the "we" testimony

kingzizzy:
Dont use America in this context, America is not a nation of indigenous people like Nigeria is. Igbos have routinely slaughtered in Nigeria since 1945 to this day and you are asking them to give up their agitation to their God given right to freedom to embrace a country that killed them in the millions in the name of a united Nigeria.

Nigeria is but the mere artificial creation of the white man. That the British forced all of us together does not mean we have to carry on forcing each to be together. Nobody gave their consent to the creation of Nigeria so Nigeria is illegal

They should stop all this nonsense and give Igbos a referendum so we get out this burning house of Lord Lugard called Nigeria

1. You mentioned Igbos are regularly slaughtered without stating if such incidents are state sponsored or at least have a wide community support across Northern Nigeria or spontaneous clashes.

2. Nigeria is clearly an incident from an imperial conquest but that is how history works! No one comes together to create a state. Usually there are pre-existing conditions that catalyze nation building just as how Biafra comes to exist and Igbo consciousness grows. Biafra has only as much legitimacy as Nigeria.

belzabull:
Ermm...your concerned is noted, however I feel obliged to inform you that there is not only an economic blue print but also an administrative blue print by the IPOB leadership on governance and survival of the proposed Biafran nation, so worry less about that and worry more about what will be left of your country after a split.

I am sure you are one of those who told whoever cared to listen that buhari was the best thing after sliced bread, today you are gnashing your teeth over his obviously leadership flaws- the point is, you should worry more about making the right decision/ choices for yourselves and let those who believe in the Biafran course worry about theirs.

On domineering, the thing is people like you just pick up a line albeit a lie from someone or social media and begin to use shamelessly even when you don't understand what it means or the context in which it's being used, otherwise if you do, an apology from you stereotyping would have been needless.

Just like you keep making baseless assumptions with using South Sudan as an example, forgetting or being oblivious of the fact that former USSR split into about 15 country each of which is thousand times better than your country.

Sometimes it good to speak with knowledge and not revel in ignorance just because some fellow uninformed persons and out of mischief too, chose to peddle such falsehood/misinformation.

All in all, do not worry about how 'body go tell' us, rather worry about how you'll be shitting in your pant when the time comes

#bye

1. You speak like the very act of breaking up a country is a harbinger of good fortune and incredible success. You mention the mighty USSR and indicate that the constituents are successful without any other light shed on their socio economic and political circumstances. Yet you praise knowledge but you don't practise it.

2. What is this economic and administrative blueprint the IPOB have? Why is it made a top secret and not revealed to the very people who need it. The blueprint is the litmus test for the success of a secession. It is the equivalent of a business plan upon which the success of a business is adjudged.

3. I understand that Buhari's govt hasnt being the most inspiring one and his policies are unpopular. Yet you don't seem to appreciate the forces of the global economy and its impact on us. And it's impact on a fragile Biafra

Lobolintin:
Ohaneze idigbo had set up a committee on that ..brother too late

IPOB doesnt have a latent ideology that addresses the concerns of the underprivileged and lower class in the East. This is why the elite will hijack this IPOB "revolution" by having committees which have the concerns of the elite in mind.

No one governs well with committees

At least you agree that IPOB hasn't weighed the economic consequences of a probable secession not to speak of the other issues like citizenship, property rights, human rights etc

magoo10:
It is evidently clear that Igbo's are self sufficient so don't worry yourself about economic plans my brother,even after the war only 20pounds was paid back into the accounts of igbos not minding how much each of them had in their accounts. after the war so many igbos lost their properties and belongings but today they have them replenished. so if you ask mW I will say that your question is childish when you are talking about an average Igbo man.there are more serious hurdles to worry about and not that

Because you believe Igbos are such a special race that plans and visions don't matter, right?

Would you have a right to criticize Nigerians for believing that by virtue of being Nigerians they don't need plans and visions?

I appreciate your comment on me being childish for thinking ahead

hahn:
Of course not. If you commit a crime pay the time. That is the essence of responsibility. That is why we call ourselves adults

That said, god does not have the right to punish anyone for sin because it created sin and created us with full knowledge of our sins before we even commit them, if the claim of it being omniscient and omnipresent are anything to go by, and therefore the responsibility of our crimes rest on it

Fortunately, men of the judiciary know to ignore god when passing sentences because they understand every man is responsible for his actions

I am yet to see a single criminal that was found guilty and allowed to walk free just because he/she is a "born again" Christian

Yea but restitution is a form of redemption. The idea of being responsible by paying back for what you have done. In this way we are saying the same thing.

magoo10:
Even when major stakeholders of other tribes agreed to restructuring the north have constantly rejected it,we cannot continue to beg them and still they shit on our face to tell us not to go peacefully.
since restructuring cannot work secession becomes the best and accommodating option

When you say the North who do you have in mind? Is it the Middle Belt or the Hausas or Fulanis or the Kanuris?

magoo10:
Who are you for Nnamdi KANU to reveal his economic plan to? you are free to join the movement if you need info on the economic plan

The summary is that there is no economic plan or other plans. Just mere rhetoric and propaganda which poor people are easily susceptible to

nonhuman:
most of u guys just come out here to type rubbish without research have ever listen to radio Biafra since inception why are u saying what u don't know Biafra already have a political and economic road map and will never depend on oil . Igbo's are not fool s

What's Biafra's economic policy and what type of federal constitution do you

magoo10:
keep waiting for Nnamdi KANU to give you an economic road map .where is Nigeria today with all the economic road maps? now they are talking of vision 2030 after so many vision whatever has been postulated. let's have Biafra first economic road map is not an issue ,an Igbo man will always cross the bridge when we get there as long as economy is concerned

This means that there is no plan ahead. You are embarking on a multi billion dollar project yet you have no plans and no idea of what obstacles are in the way.

hahn:
This is how Christianity promotes immorality

It is like a pedophile that is on trial for murdering his victim allowed to go free simply because he knows the son of the judge and the state cancels his record of pedophilia. It is absolute nonsense and it is really baffling that adults can peddle such nonsense arrogantly in public

Bunch of ignoramuses who try to apply ancient ignorant barbarism in the modern world

Don't you think there should be redemption for everyone?

Hasn't anyone noticed that Kanu has not laid an economic roadmap or suggested even a skeletal political structure for Biafra. There is neither a foreign policy. He dwells on the problems of Nigeria but never offers the solutions Biafra would offer.

How would the Biafran state survive without a reliable revenue base such as oil. Would Biafra be in a continual state of hostility with its Nigerian neighbour? What effect will that have on the Biafran economy?

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Don't men andoctor women have the same right to vote and work before?

Yes they do. Meaning gender equality is good!

7footre:
No one is asking for war, we are asking for this nation to be restructured to benefit the common man. The status quo clearly benefits them, hence they bury their heads in d sand and act nonchalantly.

How is a restructure done to suit the common man? What are the needs of the common man that are satisfied by this restructuring?

Daboomb:
How is FAIRNESS or JUSTICE for every human, subjective terms?

Abeg explain, make l learn something new today.

Look social justice for example. What is social justice for the elite is different from social justice for the lower classes. The elite would claim their place is rightfully theirs because they or their ancestors worked and sweated for it. That they accumulated their wealth diligently. The poor will on the hand say the system is skewered against them. That they dont have the educational backgrounds and quality the elite have. I think socialism makes its stand on this.

So that's just one aspect of the whole concept of justice.

Daboomb:
It is treating BOTH GENDER (male and female) with FAIRNESS and JUSTICE.

The operating word here is EQUITY.

No one can fault that.

You dissolved equity into two more vague terms. Whose subjective view are we to resolve to in order to define fairness and justice

FX:
Gender Equity has already been achieved in Nigeria but Gender equality can never be achieved because man and woman are different just like the O.P has pointed out

What is gender equity?

FX:
Gender Equity has already been achieved in Nigeria but Gender equality can never be achieved because man and woman are different just like the O.P has pointed out

So why do you address gender equality as biological differences. Why do you say gender equality isn't possible when you are admitting it has already been achieved

donestk:
This is not an attack thread but based on personal experience.

Came across some single moms who do abortion alot.

They kept their first pregnancy to draw public sympathy as "despite all odds, she kept the baby" etc

Subsequently they continue their reckless behavior and keep aborting with justification as "how can I have two kids without marriage" etc

It's really a sad trend.

Do you mean every single moms or some?

teamsynergy:
I get your point sir, but arent men made to be loved too..... if you say a lady is not strong, how do ladies endure pregnancy and painful childbirth? we both have our strengths and weaknesses. I don't think equality will do any of the gender any good. the world is like a two-plug engine, we need each other to function well and expand

Back to fundamentals. What does gender equality mean to you

FX:
I quite understand u but there is a limit to what they can do. Men are naturally and physically made to do rigorous stuffs. If you fire just one gun shot, all the women in my village will hide immediately but some men will come out to know what is happening and who fired the gun. Women are made to be loved.

If you were thoughtful enough you would have asked yourself what gender equality and rights have to do with physicality or cowardice. Because they have nothing to do with them.

Gender equality and rights are moral and legal entitlements concerning both genders with respect to family life work etc.

So a woman and a man can have the same voice same vote and right to work. It is that simple

hush15:
I couldn't have put it better. Obasanjo has a presidential library and educational institutions of which a present governor has spoken how they are mandated to give for it.

We also have a former vice president who owns another university, and many former governors who use state resources for personal aggrandizement yet EFCC only has eyes on mama peace assets. It's all about the opposition.

This is not a valid criticism.

aolawale025:
I see the case of Patience Jonathan as a witch hunt. How can the agencies overlook the numerous cases of elected officials and go after the lady? Did she hold any government office where it has been ascertained that funds were missing? Some former first ladies have built universities, some ex governors have private jets. Where are they not seeking forfeiture of those as well?

I don't understand your reasoning. A parallel of your reasoning is saying not one single armed robber should be prosecuted until every other armed robber is caught. It is absolutely ridiculous.

Besides the first lady had that much money without a job. It is clear that it must be the proceeds of corruption