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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 1:22pm On Apr 19, 2023
jaephoenix:
How come animals have shut since the time of the bible, yahweh doesn't speak to people again and doesn't throw down manna?
What happened?
God still speaks to us through the Holy Spirit. Most of the time, it's through a still small voice in your heart. But this is for those who are born again.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 1:17pm On Apr 19, 2023
jaephoenix:
Redeem mankind from the wrath of an omnibenevolent god? Why can't he forgive?
The demand of justice must be met.

He will be unjust to cut corners.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 1:15pm On Apr 19, 2023
jaephoenix:
Do you wanna discuss the fvck ups in the bible? It'll take all day. The bible is the most contradictory and barefaced lie filled book on earth. Believe me, you dont want to know the pitfalls there
Please, I want to. I can assure you that their are no pitfalls.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 1:14pm On Apr 19, 2023
jaephoenix:
Obviously Jesus and Adam are different humans. Stop muddying the water.
Jesus is the last Adam according to the scripture. Jesus started a new race of people destined for glory land.

The first Adam started a race destined for destruction.

So, choose which Adam to follow.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 8:13am On Apr 19, 2023
jaephoenix:
This is just like saying Mein Furher wasn't created by yahweh. But Yahweh created Adolf Hitler.
Typical theist logic.
By the way, didn't yahweh anticipate Lucifer would turn on him? Yet he gave him power over his own creations to subjugate and deceive them
Fallen man is a victim of the disobedience of the first Adam. This is why the last Adam Jesus came to free us. The choice is yours either to remain under condemnation or receive the liberty that is in Christ alone.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 8:10am On Apr 19, 2023
Kez11:
I have been following this tread just to learn but you raised some points that needs clarification.

First, growing up I was an ardent christian, infact, the feeling and joy of every sunday morning could be equated to that of christmas as a kid... Guess you know how it is.


As the years go by, my knowledge and wisdom increased, then I discerned so many lacuna in the christian doctrine and religion at large then I started asking questions.

Something I noticed about christians mostly is this, whenever someone ask an objective question as regards their dogma belief, instead of giving a clear answer, they will vilify and label the fellow hell designate.


Back to your comment, I had to itemize your points to march my questions.



1. I read that the christian God is all knowing (omniscient) that means he knows the end even before the beginning. Why did he create Lucifer since he already knows that he will someday rebel against him which will be the root cause of chaos in the world?


2. What language did the serpent speak with Eve and why has the serpent not been speaking for centuries now? More so, according to Genesis 3:14, the serpent was cursed to loose its legs by God for deceiving Eve. What about other reptiles that crawl with their belly today, were they also accomplice?


3. This will seem like the first, the all knowing God who knows the end from the begining already knew that the tree at the garden of Eden will constitutes a source of enmity between him (God) and Adam, since he created all things, why did he put the tree there or why create the tree in the first place?


4. God redeemed us by deliberately allowing someone to be slaughtered? Does he drink blood or what? Even after the so called redemption the devil is still going around tempting God's people and converting them to his kingdom. Since God is most powerful, don't you think the greatest redemption of man would have been to bound this rouge guy and cast him into the bottomless pit and confine him there forever so that man can forever be free from his antics? Since he can easily trap him, why allow him the luxury of time to deceive and convert his people he created in his own image and likeness?


5. Christ is just a messenger of the christian God just as Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don't agree with christians.


When one critically look at religion with an OPEN MIND, you will discern and believe that so many dots do not connect. The people that wrote the bible are the greatest con men ever lived. They succeeded in manipulating and enslaved billions of people without pressure or coercion.
Thank God you made a distinction between the Bible God and Allah of Mohammed. So, you know that Allah is not God. The question now is that who is superior to who and who are you supposed to listen to?

The very words of Mohammed betrayed him. He said in Quran 46:9 that he is not sure of what will become of him nor of those who follow him. He conclude that he is just a messenger.

Compare his statement with that of Jesus. Jesus said, 'I am the way, the truth and the life and that no one comes to the Father except through him - John 14:6.

Jesus also said that; 'God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life - John 3:16.

There are many other statement Jesus made that affirmed he was not an ordinary man. On certain occasions, he claimed pre existence. At a few other times, he claimed equality with God.

Most importantly, he lived a life that was flawless.

Mohammed did not live a flawless life.

Jesus willingly died on the cross.

Muhammad did not die for anyone. Rather, he killed those who rejected him and forced them to embrace Islam.

Jesus died and rose again. Mohammed is still in his tomb.

Jesus appeared to many after his resurrection.

No one knows where Mohammed went to.

Jesus promised he is coming back to take us to heaven.

Mohammed never made any such promises.

If you have two options to choose from. With the credentials of Jesus and Mohammed laid side by side, no wise person will choose Mohammed over Jesus.

Please, be sincere to yourself, Mohammad is just a self acclaimed Prophet. He does not have the approval of any other known Prophet.

Jesus was approved by John the Baptist.

Prophets of old spoke about Jesus years before his birth. They even gave specific prophecies which came to pass.

God himself spoke from heaven twice and confirmed Jesus to be his Son.

Please, give your life to Jesus. He is alive to guarantee you destiny.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:50am On Apr 19, 2023
Kez11:
I have been following this tread just to learn but you raised some points that needs clarification.

First, growing up I was an ardent christian, infact, the feeling and joy of every sunday morning could be equated to that of christmas as a kid... Guess you know how it is.


As the years go by, my knowledge and wisdom increased, then I discerned so many lacuna in the christian doctrine and religion at large then I started asking questions.

Something I noticed about christians mostly is this, whenever someone ask an objective question as regards their dogma belief, instead of giving a clear answer, they will vilify and label the fellow hell designate.


Back to your comment, I had to itemize your points to march my questions.



1. I read that the christian God is all knowing (omniscient) that means he knows the end even before the beginning. Why did he create Lucifer since he already knows that he will someday rebel against him which will be the root cause of chaos in the world?


2. What language did the serpent speak with Eve and why has the serpent not been speaking for centuries now? More so, according to Genesis 3:14, the serpent was cursed to loose its legs by God for deceiving Eve. What about other reptiles that crawl with their belly today, were they also accomplice?


3. This will seem like the first, the all knowing God who knows the end from the begining already knew that the tree at the garden of Eden will constitutes a source of enmity between him (God) and Adam, since he created all things, why did he put the tree there or why create the tree in the first place?


4. God redeemed us by deliberately allowing someone to be slaughtered? Does he drink blood or what? Even after the so called redemption the devil is still going around tempting God's people and converting them to his kingdom. Since God is most powerful, don't you think the greatest redemption of man would have been to bound this rouge guy and cast him into the bottomless pit and confine him there forever so that man can forever be free from his antics? Since he can easily trap him, why allow him the luxury of time to deceive and convert his people he created in his own image and likeness?


5. Christ is just a messenger of the christian God just as Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don't agree with christians.


When one critically look at religion with an OPEN MIND, you will discern and believe that so many dots do not connect. The people that wrote the bible are the greatest con men ever lived. They succeeded in manipulating and enslaved billions of people without pressure or coercion.
Someone has to die to redeem mankind because it's the blood that makes atonement for sins.

There is no short cut.

This is why the blood of animals were used for atonement before Jesus came. But the blood of animals could not take away the sins of mankind because it's not the same value as the man that nerds redemption. It only covered their sins for a one year period. And the sacrifice had to be repeated yearly.

But the blood of Jesus washed away our sins for eternity. He met the demand of justice.

If I am owing you a certain amount of money, it's either I pay you that money or it's equivalent. You won't accept anything less.

The life of the flesh is in the blood. And the penalty for sin is dead. So for the guilty to go free, someone has to die in his place. And this is what Jesus did for us. He died in our place. In the mind of divine justice, we are all legally free. But you will only enjoy that freedom if you believe and accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

If you reject Jesus, you have only agree to pay it yourself and that will automatically end you in the pit of hell. I don't think you will want to go to hell. The punishment there is unbearable.

Why not give your life to Christ and deliver your soul from that horrible place.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:40am On Apr 19, 2023
Kez11:
I have been following this tread just to learn but you raised some points that needs clarification.

First, growing up I was an ardent christian, infact, the feeling and joy of every sunday morning could be equated to that of christmas as a kid... Guess you know how it is.


As the years go by, my knowledge and wisdom increased, then I discerned so many lacuna in the christian doctrine and religion at large then I started asking questions.

Something I noticed about christians mostly is this, whenever someone ask an objective question as regards their dogma belief, instead of giving a clear answer, they will vilify and label the fellow hell designate.


Back to your comment, I had to itemize your points to march my questions.



1. I read that the christian God is all knowing (omniscient) that means he knows the end even before the beginning. Why did he create Lucifer since he already knows that he will someday rebel against him which will be the root cause of chaos in the world?


2. What language did the serpent speak with Eve and why has the serpent not been speaking for centuries now? More so, according to Genesis 3:14, the serpent was cursed to loose its legs by God for deceiving Eve. What about other reptiles that crawl with their belly today, were they also accomplice?


3. This will seem like the first, the all knowing God who knows the end from the begining already knew that the tree at the garden of Eden will constitutes a source of enmity between him (God) and Adam, since he created all things, why did he put the tree there or why create the tree in the first place?


4. God redeemed us by deliberately allowing someone to be slaughtered? Does he drink blood or what? Even after the so called redemption the devil is still going around tempting God's people and converting them to his kingdom. Since God is most powerful, don't you think the greatest redemption of man would have been to bound this rouge guy and cast him into the bottomless pit and confine him there forever so that man can forever be free from his antics? Since he can easily trap him, why allow him the luxury of time to deceive and convert his people he created in his own image and likeness?


5. Christ is just a messenger of the christian God just as Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don't agree with christians.


When one critically look at religion with an OPEN MIND, you will discern and believe that so many dots do not connect. The people that wrote the bible are the greatest con men ever lived. They succeeded in manipulating and enslaved billions of people without pressure or coercion.
Your third question is like asking why a teacher would set a question when he knows that some students will fail the exam.

Every human is a student before God and we must be tested to prove our loyalty to God.

And the result of the test could go either way. If Adam had not eaten of the forbidden tree, we will not be asking this question.

Jesus who came as the last Adam was also tested. But he passed the test. What if Jesus had failed the test? We all would have been doomed. So, God did not exempt Jesus from the test as the test is a basic requirement to know our loyalty to him.

God expected Adam to pass the test. But Adam failed. And he knew what he would do if he failed.

Creating the world without that tree is like establishing an institution without examination. So, it's God's established principle and ways of testing our loyalty.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:29am On Apr 19, 2023
Kez11:
I have been following this tread just to learn but you raised some points that needs clarification.

First, growing up I was an ardent christian, infact, the feeling and joy of every sunday morning could be equated to that of christmas as a kid... Guess you know how it is.


As the years go by, my knowledge and wisdom increased, then I discerned so many lacuna in the christian doctrine and religion at large then I started asking questions.

Something I noticed about christians mostly is this, whenever someone ask an objective question as regards their dogma belief, instead of giving a clear answer, they will vilify and label the fellow hell designate.


Back to your comment, I had to itemize your points to march my questions.



1. I read that the christian God is all knowing (omniscient) that means he knows the end even before the beginning. Why did he create Lucifer since he already knows that he will someday rebel against him which will be the root cause of chaos in the world?


2. What language did the serpent speak with Eve and why has the serpent not been speaking for centuries now? More so, according to Genesis 3:14, the serpent was cursed to loose its legs by God for deceiving Eve. What about other reptiles that crawl with their belly today, were they also accomplice?


3. This will seem like the first, the all knowing God who knows the end from the begining already knew that the tree at the garden of Eden will constitutes a source of enmity between him (God) and Adam, since he created all things, why did he put the tree there or why create the tree in the first place?


4. God redeemed us by deliberately allowing someone to be slaughtered? Does he drink blood or what? Even after the so called redemption the devil is still going around tempting God's people and converting them to his kingdom. Since God is most powerful, don't you think the greatest redemption of man would have been to bound this rouge guy and cast him into the bottomless pit and confine him there forever so that man can forever be free from his antics? Since he can easily trap him, why allow him the luxury of time to deceive and convert his people he created in his own image and likeness?


5. Christ is just a messenger of the christian God just as Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don't agree with christians.


When one critically look at religion with an OPEN MIND, you will discern and believe that so many dots do not connect. The people that wrote the bible are the greatest con men ever lived. They succeeded in manipulating and enslaved billions of people without pressure or coercion.
The serpent certainly spoke in language that Eve understood.

On why we have other creeping animals apart from snake that creeps on their belly, I don't know.

I certainly don't know everything. Whether they were accomplices or God created them that way, I don't know.

But what I believe is that the devil spoke through the serpent.

We have at least another occasion that a donkey spoke.

So, it's possible for animals to speak but it's unusual.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:25am On Apr 19, 2023
Kez11:
I have been following this tread just to learn but you raised some points that needs clarification.

First, growing up I was an ardent christian, infact, the feeling and joy of every sunday morning could be equated to that of christmas as a kid... Guess you know how it is.


As the years go by, my knowledge and wisdom increased, then I discerned so many lacuna in the christian doctrine and religion at large then I started asking questions.

Something I noticed about christians mostly is this, whenever someone ask an objective question as regards their dogma belief, instead of giving a clear answer, they will vilify and label the fellow hell designate.


Back to your comment, I had to itemize your points to march my questions.



1. I read that the christian God is all knowing (omniscient) that means he knows the end even before the beginning. Why did he create Lucifer since he already knows that he will someday rebel against him which will be the root cause of chaos in the world?


2. What language did the serpent speak with Eve and why has the serpent not been speaking for centuries now? More so, according to Genesis 3:14, the serpent was cursed to loose its legs by God for deceiving Eve. What about other reptiles that crawl with their belly today, were they also accomplice?


3. This will seem like the first, the all knowing God who knows the end from the begining already knew that the tree at the garden of Eden will constitutes a source of enmity between him (God) and Adam, since he created all things, why did he put the tree there or why create the tree in the first place?


4. God redeemed us by deliberately allowing someone to be slaughtered? Does he drink blood or what? Even after the so called redemption the devil is still going around tempting God's people and converting them to his kingdom. Since God is most powerful, don't you think the greatest redemption of man would have been to bound this rouge guy and cast him into the bottomless pit and confine him there forever so that man can forever be free from his antics? Since he can easily trap him, why allow him the luxury of time to deceive and convert his people he created in his own image and likeness?


5. Christ is just a messenger of the christian God just as Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don't agree with christians.


When one critically look at religion with an OPEN MIND, you will discern and believe that so many dots do not connect. The people that wrote the bible are the greatest con men ever lived. They succeeded in manipulating and enslaved billions of people without pressure or coercion.
I will use an example of how God deals with us to answer your first question.

Right now, I am saved but if I later backslide, I will go to hell.

What took me to hell? My decision did and not God.

Did God know I was going to hell?

Yes but with a clause. He knows I will go to hell if I reject Christ and he knows I will make heaven if I accept Christ and remain faithful.

So, our destiny is dependent more on our decisions than God's foreknowledge.

So, what God does is that he gives each of us an opportunity to be saved. If you accept it, you will be saved, if you reject it, you will be damned.

In the same sense, when he created Lucifer, he knew Lucifer will continue to enjoy his good status and glory if he remains faithful and he also knew he will be judged if he disobeyed.

So, Lucifer was given the opportunity to choose his own destiny. It will be wrong for God to say I won't create Lucifer because I know he will rebel. He gives everyone an opportunity to choose his destiny.

It's just like saying that I will not send my child to school because I know he will fail. You have to give your child a benefit of doubt that he will pass.
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhema For Living Devotional 2023 by Ken4Christ(op): 7:06am On Apr 19, 2023
Wednesday, April 19th.

Exposition on the Book of Revelation - 19 (144,000 Jews Sealed for Protection).

"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."(Revelation 7:3-4).

In the chronology of events of the last days we have studied so far, it is revealed that the faithful saints will be raptured first. They are actually the four living creatures before the throne of God in Revelation 4:6. The identity of the four living creatures is confirmed in Revelation 5:9. And the rapture will take place during the period the fourth horse is riding which is the time we are living in.

Immediately after the rapture of the church, the saints left behind will face great tribulation. Those who will still hold on to their faith will be saved but they will all be persecuted to death. Prior to this persecutions, the souls of those who were slain cried for vengeance at the opening of the fifth seal. And they were told to rest awhile until they have slain the other brethren like they were slain - Revelation 6:11.

And the remaining brethren will be slain during the great tribulation period. After the great tribulation periods, God will take vengeance against these wicked people of this world. But before he does that, 144,000 Jews will be sealed for protection so that they will not be affected by the judgment.

The 144,000 are from the twelve tribes of the nation of Israel; 12,000 from each tribe.
However, the 12 tribes listed excluded the tribe of Dan which was one of the twelve tribes of the nation of Israel. Bible scholars said Dan was excluded because they rejected the land allotted to them. In addition, they chose another land and went into idolatry.

It's imperative to mention here that the present day church is sealed with the Holy Spirit. But the 144,000 Jews will be sealed on their forehead because the ministry of the Holy Spirit ends with the rapture of the church. In addition, the ministry of the Holy Spirit in convicting the world of sin will be over after the rapture. No one will be saved among the Gentiles after the rapture of the church. Only those who are already saved but missed the rapture will have the opportunity to still make heaven if they cleanse themselves from their sins and hold on to their faith. The tribulation saints will be the focus of our study tomorrow.

Prayer: Great and Mighty God, hallowed be your name. I thank you for your mercy and grace upon my life. I thank you for the opportunity given to us to be part of your kingdom. I pray that you will deliver me from every temptations designed to disqualify me from making the rapture of the church in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Further Study: Revelation 7:1-8, Romans 2:5.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 11:11pm On Apr 18, 2023
Maynman:
Yahweh didn’t create “lucifer”, Lucifer is not found in the Old Testament only in the New Testament. Omniscience god didn’t know devil will turn out bad but omniscience god know that devil will be dethroned lol
Yahweh created Devil, in hebrew it means opposer.
Did the devil speak through a serpent, or the devil transform to serpent?

Since Adam didn’t know what evil and good is before eating the apple or whatever, how then do you now claim he didn’t do anything evil? How was he able to differentiate? How then did he disobeyed? Is disobedience a good thing now?

Christ is greek word that comes from hebrew and it means messiah, all kings and priests in ancient israel are Messiahs.
Also christ means anointed, as in anointed with OIL, that’s why the jews reject your roman propaganda of Iesus chrestus.

If you don’t use your common sense you’ll die a yahweh worshipper and be a slave to jewish mythology.

Also how come your god is so messy, omniscience god didn’t see any of these coming? Or does the the devil have power to blind yahweh not to see his plans?
It seems Devil and yahweh are into this charade together.
The people feeding you with lies will not go unpunished.

Embrace the truth that is in Christ alone and be free.
Crime › Re: Kaduna: Five Abducted Students Of GSS Awon Kachia, Escape From Terrorists' Den by Ken4Christ: 11:07pm On Apr 18, 2023
Flight90:
Good
Now please do the needful by sending out the necessary security personnels to track down the criminals
Which security? Are they not working together? This is why it's difficult put an end to it.
Health › Re: My Daily Plight With Flies by Ken4Christ: 11:04pm On Apr 18, 2023
Sponty600:
Okay so around last year, exactly this time of the year. I don't know how possible but I observed that flies are following or are attracted to me.

At first it was very minor, I only see them in one or two places.

Fast forward into the last year, it started increasing. I see flies everywhere even in very clean places like churches or banks.
I doubt if its a hygiene problem, because I wear clean clothes and maintain personal hygiene. And plus they're dirty people in the society and none of them have never experienced this.

I have experienced this for a year now,despite trying to find a cure to it,it leaves me deeply confused anytime I think of it.

If anyone has experienced similar problem or has any suggestion, please let me hear.
You need deliverance. Are you born again?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 10:57pm On Apr 18, 2023
Maynman:
Yahweh told him to have dominion over HIS work, whose work, is it adam or yahweh work?
If it is adam, what is adam work? Did he create the world?
If it is yahweh work, is devil not part of it, why didn’t adam have dominion over satan?
And if adam is the god of the word how was devil able to deceive him? Is devil not of this world? Was the devil a subject to adam?

When satan wanted to deal with job why did he ask for permission from yahweh since he is the god of the world?
Maybe it was yahweh that gave satan permission of this world.

What’s the essence of defeating satan without dethroning him? What’s the aim? Are you sure he defeated anything, cause This makes zero sense.
It seems jesus and yahweh have a soft place for satan.
How will this present system pass when devil is the god of this world? And has dominion of this world, Who will make it pass?
You’re just contradicting yourself.

Why can’t your god confined the devil now, like you said he is looking for people to join him, is it not common sense to confined him now, or yahweh doesn’t have the power to?
It seems yahweh wants people to go to hell by not confining devil since all these centuries.
If a criminal is killing people you arrest him immediately, what are you waiting for?


Your jesus is dead according to your own bible, the Revelation you are basing your life on is talking about king nero and the number is 616.

Also how come your god is so messy, omniscience god didn’t see any of these coming? Or does the the devil have power to blind yahweh not to see his plans?
It seems Devil and yahweh are into this charade together.
This is common sense na.
The devil is not God's creation. God created Lucifer who later became the devil.

The devil therefore was not part of what Adam was to have dominion over because Adam never even knew that the devil existed. This is why the devil spoke through a serpent.

Adam before the fall did not anything evil. It was the tree that exposed him to know what is evil and good.

The good news is that Christ has redeemed us from the power of Darkness or Satan. So, those in Christ have dominion over Satan.

If you are not in Christ, Satan is your god and master.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 5:47pm On Apr 18, 2023
Maynman:
Adam gave devil authority how?
Was adam the god of this world before?
You can’t give what you don’t have

Why can’t your god confined the devil now, like you said he is looking for people to join him, is it not common sense to confined him now, or yahweh doesn’t have the power to?
It seems yahweh wants people to go to hell by not confining devil since all these centuries.
If a criminal is killing people you arrest him immediately, what are you waiting for?


You said the devil is not affected by the fire in hell now, is devil currently in hell and is still the ruler of this world at the same time?
Did he dethrone yahweh, when? and your omniscience god didn’t see it coming? Or does the the devil have power to blind yahweh not to see his plans?
So many loopholes in your fairytale.

When you are ready to use common sense, you’ll realised that you’ve been duped with jewish books, i hope you don’t die a yahweh worshipper sha

Your jesus that exist only in New Testament is also dead in that same New Testament. Your own bible said so cheesy
Adam was indeed the god of this world.

When he was created, God told him to have dominion over all the works of his hands. And that made him the god of this world until he lost it to Satan.

The scripture says;

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

So, Adam became subject to Satan because he yielded himself to obey him.

Satan confirmed the transfer of the ownership of the world to him when he tempted Jesus. He told him;

Luke 4:6. ".... All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: FOR THAT IS DELIVERED UNTO ME; and to whomsoever I will I give it."

Notice the phrase, 'for that is delivered unto me'.

Who delivered it to Satan? It was Adam.

And Jesus came to get it back legally but Satan wanted to tempt him to take a short cut.

He had to die on the cross. And legally we are free and Satan has been defeated but he has not been dethroned. He will be dethroned when this present world system pass away.

His last kingdom on earth will be the revived Roman Empire which will be a confederation of ten European nations. And that kingdom will only last for seven years. After that Jesus will reign on earth for 1,000 years.
Family › Re: Nigerian Lady Flaunts Her Elderly Husband (video) by Ken4Christ: 5:46pm On Apr 18, 2023
ahnie:
Has there ever been true love?Last I checked Romeo died with it.

Shouldn't you be concerned with the task of winning souls for Christ?
Soul Winning is off course my passion but that doesn't mean I don't have right to air my view on other issues. After all, marriage institution is ordained of God and spiced with love.
Family › Re: Nigerian Lady Flaunts Her Elderly Husband (video) by Ken4Christ: 3:48pm On Apr 18, 2023
She married for money and not true love.

If the old man was a poor man, would she have chosen him over a young man.

Fear women.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 3:43pm On Apr 18, 2023
Maynman:
Bwahahahah.
So devil is powerful enough to not get burnt by hell that was created by your creator and Yahweh is staring at him helplessly.
Is it only devil that’s not affected, are his angels not also affected?
Which throne is the devil been “completely” dethroned from?


I don’t think the devil wants yahweh redemption, he’s already going toe to toe with him to the extent that yahweh fire is ineffective to him.
The devil is presently operating with the authority he got from Adam to rule the earth. This is why the Bible calls him the god of this world.

But when his time is up, he will be confined in the Lake of Fire and will be tormented day and night.

But he wants people like you to join him. He does not want to suffer alone. Yes, he won on the aspect of having the majority on his side.

For every one person who makes heaven, about ten thousands go to hell.

This is why Jesus said, many are called but few are chosen.

He also said that the road that leads to destruction is wide and many will follow that road. And you have chosen that way also. But any day you are ready to repent, the Lord will save you. The choice is yours.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sword Of God By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Ken4Christ: 3:37pm On Apr 18, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Lol

Pastor Ken, Peter could not write nor read. Paul was the brain behind all those Letters. Do you think he would vilify himself with his own hand? His own writings?

Read the Act of the Apostle from Act 1 and you will see that someone was writing about what is happening to the Disciples all along. It is clear to see unless you don't want to see it.

It was Paul who started the preaching to non Jews and the disciples were rightly afraid because Jesus never did and never told them to do so. The command is to remain in Jerusalem.

Matthew 10:5-7 (KJV) These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand


The instructions above was thrown away by Paul who claimed he saw Jesus in a Vision.

Now think, if Jesus had wanted to change anything, would it not have been better he he had appeared to the remaining ELEVEN DISCIPLES? OR AT LEAST ONE OF THEM?

Pastor Ken, Paul did one on you guys cool
Jesus and his disciples did not preach to none Jews during his earthly ministry because the door of salvation was not yet opened to them.

The none Jews had the opportunity to be saved when the Jews rejected Jesus - John 1:11-13.

Apostle Paul was given the special task to reach out to none Jews while Peter was task with the responsibility of reaching out to the Jews.

The letters Jesus wrote to the seven churches were all written to none Jews. Jesus did not write any letter to the Jews who were the original people of God because they rejected him.

Peter's letter were his. The book of Acts was written by Dr Luke.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 3:31pm On Apr 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Why would I wanna be in dull heaven missing Yahweh's white ass when I can be having a ball with Pac and Big in hell?
All the activities in hell revolves around weeping and gnashing of teeth. You will curse the day your mother gave birth to you when you get there. It would have been better you were never born.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 3:29pm On Apr 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Is this all the answer your 'intelligent being' could muster from you for his defense?
What a lame ass god
I feel so sorry for you the day you will stand before Jesus to give account of all these idle words. You will wish that mountains should fall on you and crush you to dead instead of facing Jesus. Oh, it will be a very miserable day for you. It's the path you have chosen. Endure the punishment when it comes.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 11:51am On Apr 18, 2023
Maynman:
How will devil and his angels burn in hell? With their spiritual body?
Why didn’t jesus death deliver devil and angel from hell?
Before jesus death, who was delivering people from hell?
There is no redemption for the devil or his angels. Redemption is only for man.

The devil and his angels can only be tormented by the fire of hell. But because of the power the devil still has, he is presently not affected by the fire. But the time will come when he will be completely dethroned and he will be thrown into the Lake of Fire where he will experience real torment for the rest of his life.


Revelation 20 :10 And the DEVIL that deceived them was CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sword Of God By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Ken4Christ: 11:48am On Apr 18, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Where if I may ask?

Reading through the Acts of the Apostles, you will notice that the Disciples were initially afraid of Paul! Do you know why?

He was saying and doing things totally opposite of what they learnt at Jesus feet. For instance, the Disciples won't eat with Gentiles, won't eat pork, won't preach outside of Judea except to fellow Jews in and around Judea and to those in the diaspora in line with what Jesus taught and they saw him practiced. It was Paul who changed all that! He reprimanded Peter for not eating with Gentiles, declared ALL food Lawful, and preached amongst non Jews and also ask them to forgo circumcision a DIRECT COMMAND from God and even said " if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit ye not"

He was the one that started the RESURRECTION of Christ, he was the one that Preached that Jesus is the SON OF GOD. I can show you all these from the Bible though all you need do is ask.

So, you see every other references where the Resurrection, Sonship and other alien thought up ideas of Paul are found in the New Testament were latter day editing and addition to suit the on going narratives of Pauline Version of the stories.

That is why you see in the bible of " DIFFERENT GOSPELS" being preached a little over 20-30 years after the Mission of Jesus ended.

I don't except you to know all these of course, you only know when you dig. I dug and these are the results of my humble sincere research.

Jesus told his disciples of a Comforter. He gave characteristics or signs to look for in that Comforter. What you guys call that Comforter does not fit Jesus description at all.
2nd Peter 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our BELOVED BROTHER PAUL also ACCORDING TO THE WISDOM GIVEN UNTO HIM hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter in the passage above acknowledged that Paul's writing was in accordance to the wisdom God gave him. And he also acknowledged that some of the things he wrote are hard to understand. And some people are misinterpreting them to their destruction.

He never said Paul wrote the wrong things. Rather, he said he wrote by the wisdom given to him.

Without the revelation given to Paul, Christianity would have been like other religion devoid of power.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:57am On Apr 18, 2023
Maynman:
Was hell created before or after jesus death?
Before
It was created for the devil and his angels after the devil fell.
Crime › Re: Court Remands Bishop Feyi In Prison For Allegedly Raping 2 Church Members by Ken4Christ: 7:55am On Apr 18, 2023
piyoo91:
there is nothing like back to sender here, that prophesy isn't from God, otherwise it will come to pass. nothing billions of your useless agent of darkness call alfa can do. it has been ordain by God that Tinubu will be president
God does not sponsor fraud. So, stop bringing God into this.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:46am On Apr 18, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
Blasphemy against the rest of the gods that you so not believe in is also worthy of eternal damnation. Okay now! This hell you are talking about, where is it?
Hell is beneath. In the lowest part of the earth. It's a spiritual kingdom. Just as heaven is above and cannot be seen with physical eyes, hell cannot be see with physical eyes.

Lost souls go there after death. But Jesus died for you so you will be delivered from hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:39am On Apr 18, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
The first evidence that there is no God is my conscience, the fact that I'm very convinced in the non existence of anything called God. If truly God placed that consciousness in me, I should not be able to think that there is no God. That shouldn't even cross my mind at all.


Just the book of Genesis, and anyone who reads that with an open mind will dump this God's fallacy. Perhaps, what about the rest of the religious books? What of the Koran? Whose words did their followers say is written in them?


The third evidence are the lies that were recorded in the over blown books that can no longer happen before our very eyes. How come snakes and donkeys no longer talk? manna never fell before our eyes yet many people are dying of hunger in Somalia. Have you ever seen a grown limb thru miracle? Where did it happen? Can your God no longer do miracles?

What is the proof that the holy spirit bears witness with your spirit and you are not just suffering from both auditory and visual hallucinations? Perhaps, the level of consciousness in human



Only a fool can say the present universe is a product of an intelligent design, if be so, we'll begin to question whether that intelligent being is indeed intelligent or far from being intelligent. Earthquakes, Volcanoes, flooding draught and famine are indeed the works of an intelligent design? People born with disabilities and deformities are indeed the works of an intelligent design? How can a manufacturer make a car that doesn't move by itself and call it an intelligent design? Anyone who think this universe is a product of an intelligent design really doesn't know what being intelligent means. In our solar system, only Earth as we speak has living organism within, so what did the intelligent design create Mercury Venus and the rest for? For decoration? I laughter...
May God have mercy on you. The devil is really holding you captive. But I pray for your liberty in the mighty name of Jesus.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sword Of God By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Ken4Christ: 7:37am On Apr 18, 2023
Lukuluku69:
Pastor Ken, go do some readings about your Faith History. Paul was the real FOUNDER of your Faith. Almost everything you do , was Paul's idea. Almost everything you do in Christianity.

He never saw met Jesus, was never a Disciple, in ALL his Epistles, he only quoted Jesus words TWICE ( and in those occasions they have no parallels in the Four Gospels)

That you Christians will believe more what a man who never met Jesus more than those who sat at his feet to learn for at least THREE YEARS is something you have to worry yourself with. They ate with him, sleep with him, walked the roads with him but it is Paul who never saw him, never met him that you believed more. Pastor, think, think and think.

He claimed to have seen Jesus in a Vision (A lie). If Jesus was to show himself to any human, surely it must be his immediate Disciples! Why? They were devastated with one transpired, confused, and in need of comfort and direction but guess what it was Paul!

See, the truth of the matter was this: At the point when Paul came into the picture in Christianity, that was the beginning of Jewish infiltration in to your faith with the aim to destroy it from within.
Peter affirmed the writing of Paul. Was Peter also deceived?
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhema For Living Devotional 2023 by Ken4Christ(op): 7:30am On Apr 18, 2023
Tuesday, April 18th.

Exposition on the Book of Revelation - 18 (Opening of the Sixth Seal).

"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood." (Revelation 6:12).
The opening of the sixth seal reveals what is about to happen to the earth just before the second coming of Christ. And this will be after the tribulation periods that will happen to the saints of the present church left behind and the Jews during last three and a half year reign of the anti Christ.

It’s important to note here that there will be two great tribulation periods. The first will be the persecution of the saints left behind after the rapture of the present church of the Gentiles. The second will be the tribulation period the Jews will go through in the last three and a half year reign of the anti Christ. It is this second tribulation period that Jesus made reference to in the twenty fourth chapter of the book of Matthew. The present day church at that time was still a mystery.

Our Lord Jesus said; "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken." (Matthew 24:29). This affirms what John the beloved saw in his vision as contained in the opening text.

John in his vision also saw the stars of heaven falling and the heavens departing like a scroll. The sight will certainly be scary. In addition, he said that every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Furthermore, John said; "And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? "(Revelation 6:15-17).

Prayer: Dear Father, I thank you for saving me from the wrath to come. I pray that your saving grace will reach out to lost souls as we share this gospel with them. Strengthen us to abide in the faith so we will not be condemned with the world in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Further Study: Romans 2:5, Hebrews 10:25-31, 1st Peter 4:18.
Family › Re: Is Anything Wrong With Husband & Wife Sleeping In Separate Rooms by Ken4Christ: 11:49pm On Apr 17, 2023
farous:
Please is there anything wrong that husband,wife and children all have and sleep separately in their respective rooms and bed.

Must husband and wife share same bed and room to define intimacy/closeness and bond between them or what can be called martal bed.
For those who can afford it, it's okay if they already have grown up children. But at the beginning, they should be in one room.

Children are not supposed to know what goes on between Daddy and Mummy when they are sleeping. So separate rooms takes their mind off. But the room should be connected so one can cross to the other when the children are asleep.
Politics › Re: Subsidy Palliative: FG To Pay N5,000 To 10m Households For 6 Months by Ken4Christ: 11:45pm On Apr 17, 2023
They are never tired of looting. God please save Nigeria.

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