Can any thing good come out of Islam?

There are no moderate muslims, whoever invented that word "Moderate muslims" should be in Jail.
The so called moderates are the ones who come to defend the atrocious nature of the religion. Imagine someone bringing in what Hiltler did in 1930's as a basis of defense to what his terrorist brothers are doing in 2016. The world would have clearly been a better place without this mistake of a religion.

feedthenation:
What some people don't understand is that if this allegations are true about Aisha Buhari, the US Justice department would have demanded that she be extradicted to the US to face justice.
By the way this has been going on since 2009, why can't the various past governments of OBJ, Yar'adua and GEJ do something about this case?
Also if this is true, the PDP party would have used this case during the 2015 election against PMB and the APC party.

The US has held their own person accountable and it is left for Nigeria to emulate the US and punish the culprits on our side. This involves some top guys and the past administrations were not interested in the case cos of corruption and this is why i'm disappointed in PMB. Except he is directly or indirectly involved in the racket, i don't understand why he shouldn't be interested in this case especially since it has refused to die down and his wife is always mentioned. This is where i expect him to show his anti corruption credentials because of the high profile nature of this case, prosecuting it will show how serious he is in not tolerating corruption.
One thing about these guys is that they would not want to investigate something when they know their own hands are not clean in the matter for fear of implicating themselves.

ISpiksDaTroof:
Here you go:


POLITICS
William Jefferson Appeal: Supreme Court Rejects Hearing Challenge From Former Congressman
Nov 26, 2012 | Updated Jan 26, 2013

(Adds background)

WASHINGTON, Nov 26 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear the appeal of former Louisiana congressman William Jefferson, who had challenged his 2009 conviction on multiple charges of bribery and money laundering.

In March, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, had upheld 10 of 11 guilty counts against the former Democratic lawmaker.

A federal jury had found Jefferson guilty of soliciting bribes, money laundering and participation in a racketeering scheme. He was sentenced to 13 years in prison but remained free while pursuing an appeal.

Prosecutors accused him of soliciting millions of dollars in bribes from companies while using his office to broker ventures such as telecommunications transactions in Ghana and Nigeria, oil concessions in Equatorial Guinea, investments in a Nigerian sugar plant and satellite transmission contracts in Botswana, Equatorial Guinea the Republic of Congo. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel; Editing by Howard Goller and Bill Trott).
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2191795.html

No No No, it seems i didn't get your point. I was talking about the Nigerian side and not the American side. What i was asking when you said case have been concluded is that has a Nigerian been held accountable?, if so, who is he/she? what punishment and when did it happen? I know about the American side.

ISpiksDaTroof:
On our part, we already concluded investigations and Justice has been served. Nigeria is free to do as they wish on the issue.

Waoo!!! That means i am not current. Who was indicted? what was the punishment to the person/people? and when did this happen?

ISpiksDaTroof:


Ok,two things for this quack that parades himself as an Attorney:

1. William Jefferson's case had nothing to do with Halliburton but everything to do with BRIBERY involving Mr.Aboubakr Atiku.

2.Rep. Jefferson did appeal his sentence--ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT-- but failed to have his case reversed/overturned; something this mo*ron of a lawyer could've easily confirmed if he wasn't so ineffective.

Boy o' boy, I can't wait to see the end of Gov.Fayose's antics if these are the kind of dolts he's hoping to defend him when law enforcement comes calling at the end of his tenure.

You guys are taking this personal and i don't understand why. PMB can end this brouhaha is he wants to and it is simple. Launch a whole scale investigation into this issue and fish out the culprits. You mentioned Atiku, if Jefferson is in Jail, what is Atiku doing in the corridors of power here in Nigeria? or is he above the fight against corruption? This is not just about Aisha, but our sincerity in fighting corruption as a whole. But except there is something to hide, PMB can keep turning a blind eye to this issue.

angels09:

Really? Methinks she's as guilty as sin....or has a huge disdain for Nigerians

I would want to give her the benefit of the doubt that she is innocent. Whether she is involved or not is not really my problem But the issue is why is PMB not interested in probing this case being the only anti corruption leader we have? Even if Aisha is innocent, there are others involved and needs to be punished too, why is he keeping mute? This case has been begging for attention since some months now and i expect PMB if he truly is sincere to unleash probe immediately but unfortunately it seems there is more to this case and that is why he is silent.

The problem with this administration is that they do not know how to kill issues once and for all. They keep messing up their non existent reputation over little issues. While i believe that Aisha Buhari is innocent, the best way to exonerate her is to launch an independent probe on the Halliburton scandal after all there are other indicted names who are moving in and out of Aso rock. What is difficult in probing this particular scandal?
The probe will set the record straight and punish others involved. If not for any other thing,we would have been seen in the eyes of the world that we are serious about fighting corruption, remember the Americans have punished their own. What else is Buhari waiting for? Is he comfortable that his wife and some of his associates are being mentioned because of this scandal or is he trying to protect something?

folahann:
Can a Nigerian leader resign?
After the crisis Abba Moro faced as a minister last year, the guy never tried it.

Can a Governor in Nigeria happily and voluntarily leave his seat. If you know how much Jonathan spent last year on election just to remain after 6 years.

Did you just call these idiots occupying political offices in Nigeria leaders? Those ones are just first class agberos. We have never had a " real leader" in Nigeria. The closest to that would have been Yaradua. These ones are just waste of space.

By 2023, clothes will become outdated for women. It will be only bra and pants. If you are into women's clothing, start preparing for the coming change.

@ OP,i would have given you a bottle of wine now if you are close to me.
You are 100% right especially no 2. "They all support corruption". and i laugh when they condemn corrupt people.

@ OP, can we create a kind of group of independent minded people. I mean people who are not supporters of APC and PDP or any stupid politician so that we can debate issues without sentiments, tribalism, partizan support etc. it would be nice debating issues with independent minded people not with these zombie and wailer jobbers here. I don't know if it is possible but i would have loved something like that.

Abeg make Political correctness no kill people like Joe. First of all, why are people interested in who hates the president or who doesn't? How does it add food to anyone's table. How has the ibo hatred and bigotry stopped the president from performing? Must everybody love the president,where does that happen?

If the ibos have not moved on,i expected to be seeing anti Buhari protests in the east or igbo formed militias causing problems here and there. Even the iPOB are not even carrying arms so how are they stopping PMB from changing Nigeria? Before iPOB,there was MASSOB and they suffered several losses and their leader was in and out of prison, was it not in the last administration? So what is the brouhaha about IPOB?

Hatred for a leader CANNOT stop any leader from doing his job, in fact, it is even to the advantage of the leader. If we enter the filling station and fuel is now sold for N50, kerosine N30 and we enter the market, bag of rice is now N5,000, who takes the glory? This idiots should help PMB to succeed by advising him on how to get things done and not looking for who love or hate him, the rant is unnecessary.

Does it mean that there are no other ibos apart from Joe that supports the president? If so, is it Joe and his family alone that attended the Buhari rally in the east during election or was Buhari booed or stoned then? Okay, maybe,every single yourba love Buhari

That you saw comments with ibo names, you now genralize abi? Does Joe know that anybody can adopt any identity online. In Nairaland for example, so many people disguise with some ethnic names to cause tribal wars.
This issue of looking for people who love or hate PMB should be stopped, it is not our business. Instead they should channel thier political correctness to help PMB succeed so that haters would eat thier words.
Since Joe is the only ibo man who loves the President and no other person from other tribe hates the president, i hereby sentence him to live in Daura. But Joe watch it, for the fact that you are always trying to romance with other tribes will not stop Tinubu and his APC men from kicking your ass if you ever make a wrong step.

You see why i will never respect any Nigerian Leader, dead, alive,past and present. They are all interested in protecting their status and wealth. They don't have any single love for the country they govern. They would rather kill their citizens to maintain status quo instead of changing the status quo to benefit the entire nation. Shame on all Nigerian leaders.They are the most foolish set of idiots i have ever seen. Their reward will be in the deepest part of hell. Fools.

Is Buhari going to wait for some public pressure for him to act on Burutai? I expected the EFCC to have swooped on him immediately. I don't expect PMB to be forced to deal with Burutai, he should kick his ass now if he really hates corruption.

Nice one @ OP. That was how i toured around some years ago.

How many bad roads have you seen? how many open drainage have you seen? How many dirty places have you seen?

when you come back, do us a favor. Curse all stupid Nigerian leaders past and present.

It's very clear from the beginning. You guys are fighting Saraki not because of corruption but because of the position of the senate presidency. Fools.

Larryfest:
Nothing is working in this country i think its time we call on our colonial masters to come and take charge again or how else are we going to survive this The poor are being deprived of their daily basic needs imagine at this age availability food is still a major problem to the gaint of africa,most populous black nation in the world and the most blessed country in terms of natural resources.... Seriously what is wrong with us as a nation

I think the best thing for us in this country is to outsource our leadership from the presidency to legislative to governors and ministers. let the Americans, British, Eureopeans, Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Canadians etc come in, compete and take over these positions, all we need do is to give them target and pay them based on their meeting their targets. Nigerian leaders past and present are just not equal to the task. Too bad

Our laws are just bullshit. Sometimes one wonders if people who draft this laws are learned.The laws lack common sense.
How can you declare someone who has not tested his popularity among the people as governor? Do they think that everybody belongs to a political party? Some people vote based on individual and not party. Rochas despite being in APC won because as at that time he was still trusted and loved but APC would have failed if they fielded any other person than Rochas.

The best judgement in this situation would have been to declare Alex Otti as governor since he was voted for or rerun the election with Uche Ogar as flag bearer of the PDP and let him test his popularity. If democracy is the will of the people and by the people, then nobody should get to office through the backdoor. All elected people must pass through the popularity and acceptance test else it is no longer democracy. The role of the court should not be to impose someone in the guise of "rule of law" but to ensure that they will of the people prevail and there is no way to know that except through the ballot box.

The choice of the people is important because it could be the difference peace and violence. for example, PMB still has the support of many because he is the choice of many and many are willing to endure and give him a chance. Imagine if PMB became president from the backdoor and things are getting this bad, don't you think there would have been anarchy in the land?

We just need to amend this laws so that the reflect common sense, it would do us a whole lot of good.

saintmark88:


the issue with Nigerians is that we don't know anything, but we claim to know and sorry to say this our lawyers n judges don't know the law.... I totally disagree with what was quoted above....Are u aware that Mr Ikpeazus stay of execution hasn't been heared by the appeal court, in fact hearing d his motion for stay of execution has been slated for monday

I don't know why our lawyers or Law does not apply common sense. Of what use is swearing him in when there is an appeal.Why the hurry? What if after swearing him in and Ikpeazu gets a victory at the appeal court, will they re swear him in? If then Ogah goes to supreme court to challenge the appeal court ruling and wins the Governor again, will they re- swear him in for the second time?
I don't know why we just like making mockery of our laws and leadership offices in this country.

EbukaLive:

Been following this discuss and I am only replying you because you sound reasonable and you mentioned strengthening our institutions something I am really passionate about. Now, to the issue at hand. You are saying PMB should 'come out straight' and do what? Say he has his certificate with him? Because he doesn't. Buhari does not HAVE his WASC Certificate, he 'lost' it, long away and he swore an affidavit to this end. I am sorry I can't explain how he said he lost it now as it is a long story. However, the case against him in the court of law that he HAD to employ an itinerary of legal counsel is about his QUALIFICATION to contest the presidency vis a vis his academic qualification (WASC Certificate). A constitutional matter, but if you see the Nigerian Constitution, it does not say WASSCE or BsC or PhD is actually required, in fact a primary school certificate will suffice, WASC Certificate will also suffice or its equivalent. You will agree with me that Buhari more than fulfils all these requirement and the case against him makes no sense in actual fact. The case is not Show Me Your Certificate but you are not qualified to run for presidency.

PS: The Statement of result was produced by his sec school. And a result sheet showing his result and others that took the exams with him. Buhari owes no one any other explanation or evidences as he has satisfied INEC Requirements even before that SOR was released in fact since 2003.

I got talking with a guy from Tanzania on the sidelines of a program i attended in Amsterdam recently and he said that he heard that our president does not have a school certificate. At first,i was shocked but i now remembered that the world is now a global village. I did my best to counter him that it was not true bla bla bla..... but it was a shame that we were even talking about it in the first place.
Why i'm critical on PMB is because of the supposed "integrity" he carries. Believe me, if it were any other politician whether PDP or APC, i wouldn't waste my saliva talking about it because i have given upon them in advance.
This is a serious and simple matter. If his certificate is lost as you claim,then write to the body in charge and get another one issued or let the exam body attest to Nigerians that he sat for the exam and clarify the issue. It goes beyond swearing affidavit.
The office of the president should not be seen debating this issue, it is shameful. Obama had to show everyone his birth certificate when the accusation was made, he didn't wave it aside.
Trust is important in governance and it is earned and not just given on a platter of gold. After all people whose house were burnt and their certificate burnt get a new one once their record is with the exam body. Though nothing will happen even if he lied to have sat for the exam but for the sake of his integrity which is now in doubt, he has the duty to clear this issue to Nigerians else he is just like any other politician who are fraudulent and believe me it is not good for our image outside.

Omonigeriarere:


This is because of your 'super ignorance' in that no constitution stipulates SSCE Certificate as the major requirement. In other words, PMB has nothing to defend, and the IPOB Lawyer knows this.

For your information, PMB has nothing to defend because “Under section 318 of the 1999 Constitution, the word “school certificate” or its equivalent means:

(a) Secondary School Certificate or its equivalent or Grade II Teachers Certificate, the City and Guilds Certificate; or

(b) Education up to Secondary school level; or

(c) Primary Six Leaving Certificate or its equivalent plus

(i) Service in the public or private sector at the federal level in any capacity acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for a minimum of 10 years and

(ii) Attendance at course and training in such institutions as may be acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for periods totaling up to a minimum of one year; and

(iii) The ability to read, write and understand and communicate in the English language to the satisfaction of the commission.

From here, some facts become apparent: -

1.Buhari is a General with many international trainings (ask your friends what it means to be a General in military)

2. He has served as Past President of FRN

3. He has worked as a civil servant for nothing less than ten years before his retirement as stipulated above

4. He has primary school Certificate.

5. He can read, write and communicate( though not fluent)

Bros! Where was it stipulated in the constitution that he must necessarily present his WAEC Certificate?

It is not about whether he can read or write, international trainings etc. It is about whether he lied under oath that he has a WASSCE certificate or not. Since he claims he has the certificate, the onus is on him to present it or tell the truth that he does not possess it. simple.

Whether he withdrew the case or not is not the issue after all no judge will have the courage to rule against PMB. But one thing is sure, PMB is never a man of integrity as some of us thought. He is as criminally minded as other politicians. He still has the opportunity to clear all doubts on this and come out straight.
At the end of the day, Nigeria loses because our institutions are weak and easily manipulated by the powerful. Maybe the next president after PMB will take a clue and do even worse and nothing will happen.

Abc123xyz:
All these are distractions, most of you writing here your both parents/grandparents didn't even obtain class 6 even at 1970s not to talk of asking them to present them today. Also in our ages today ask somebody for a waec of 80s/90s you will be surprised on the outcome,he will search oooo. Most of you don't even have class 6 not to talk of original waec. So people should just allow the 74yrs man to be abeg. Even the so called graduate went there was busy sharing money up and down. They would bring money meant for project in an open hilux during an election and be sharing just to buy a cultist/wrong candidates into power. That was even affecting our institutions as sorting became rampant. Imagine the current issue with post UTME which most of you people will benefit. School authority were using it to drain our parents with the little they have before you get admission but MB has risen to stop it which the so called graduate couldn't. Buhari who was a class prefect in his class at 60s and even went school abroad which most of you today even with 2.1 can not go till you die. Mine is that Nigerians like it or not corruption would stop no matter the antics. I rest my case

The way most of you take it personal to defend politicians with so much emotion, energy and passion makes me wonder if there is actually more to this. I doubt if the politicians biological children will even have this kind of time to defend their parents. In fact,they way things are going, some of you may even kill your own blood over a disagreement with your adored politician.
Anyway, it is your right joor. Since you are close to PMB, tell him that he is bigger than this controversy. The whole issue is too simple.Present his certificate and shame the enemies of progress. He doesn't need SANS to do that.

saintmark88:


Oga Buhari has no biz with a deal that happened as far back as 2007......do u guys even hear urselfs..... D constitution provides that a present govt should probe d immediate past administration.... PDP didn't that because of" paddy paddy". It was yar aduas job to probe Obj n d Halliburton tin he didn't.... So whts Buharis concern....what is dz govt concerns is what is happening now

Wao!!! i never knew that Justice has a time limit. So all sins from 2007 below are forgiven. I don't have any problem with that. Any common man who committed a crime dated 2007 below should be released immediately from Prison.
For the fact that the useless PDP did not probe the matter should not in any way render it invalid. For Goodness sake, this is not just an internal crime, it is an external related crime that has made us appear corrupt as a people to the eyes of the world. The Americans have convicted the culprit on their side and we are pampering our own. People like you are why i don't blame Donald Trump when he talks shit about us.
So a corrupt act that happened in 2007 and has not been addressed is not PMB's business? It is better you keep your mouth shut in some things and watch instead of spewing trash in a bid to defend politicians.

saintmark88:


This govt might be doing things wrong, but the way it's been blown out of proportion gives neutrals like me a cause for worries... When criticism isn't constructive then it's just a calculated attempt to smear the person of buhari n his govt.. Take for example d Issue of Aisha buhari, Fayose accused her nd said if she's innocent she should travel to d US. Sahara reporters did their investigation and concluded tht the Aisha Buhari is an imposter of the wife of president Buhari, those blowing Tht issue out of proportion still refused to let go, now she has decided to travel to d US...same pips have turned around ND said she is going to use a diplomatic passport!?..... What's that!??..... Didn't they know she could use a diplomatic passport all along!?...... Bfre accusing her n asking her to prove her innocence by going to d US..... It is occurrences Tht mkes me feel pips r blowing things out of proportion.............

The problem is that this govt is not showing sincerity at all. Trust, respect and integrity is earned and not by mouth. I believe Aisha is innocent but the best way to kill this off would have been to launch a serious probe. Atiku and others are mentioned and they are still walking free and having a voice in this country. What is PMB waiting for? The US has jailed its own citizen involved while ours are still working free.
I expected that things will get different in this regime but it still follows those pattern of "catch other thieves and turn a blind eye to our own thieves" PMB need to prove that he has integrity by killing off issues that indirectly question his integrity and that includes coming clean on his certificate. Otherwise he is just like other useless past and present politicians.

contactlenz:


Did I tell you am on the payroll of any Politician? If you have any case or evidence against them the Yorubas will support your course unlike you Igbos that will defend what is indefensible with "witch hunting", "he is our son", "persecution" "it is because am igbo" mentality from Olisa Metuh to Stella Oduah it is the same.

Bros, i don't have your time. You can go your "wailer" rivals and slug it out the way you guys do. I'm clearly not your type.

contactlenz:


Nonsense!!!
Did the Yorubas stop the EFCC from investigating and prosecuting Fashola and Tinubu or who was the president when Tinubu's case was on-going at the CCT and they failed to nail him. This only shows your '' hero'' was ineffective against corruption. The Yorubas will always support war against corruption unlike you Igbos that support criminality evident in the likes of Stella Oduah and Co with '' he is our son '' mentality.

Unlike you, i owe no f***king loyalty to any any Nigerian politician dead or Alive apart from Yaradua (May his soul rest in peace) who is sincere and maybe Donald Duke. Others don't worth a thing to me. You can hug your corrupt politicians forming saint but i stand by my comment. You guys are all have the same mentality.

I agree with you Mr President. In fact, it is a big shame and they should all be brought to TBS and their Manhood cut off.
But Mr President, it shows this current system is not working and it will remain like this if we keep running it.
We need a structural change where this governors will sit down, think and create wealth for their people or sink with their people. This is why true federalism is the best way to go. Think about it.

When shall we ever get sincere and honest people run the affairs of this country?

I'm just getting more confused by the day. I want to believe that the Aisha has no relation with PMB.Why is she not in jail in the US?How was she able to transfer money out of Nigeria? Who issued her this fake passport? If the US is not prosecuting her, why are they not deporting her for forgery,lies and identity theft?
Anyone who understands this should tell me please.

contactlenz:


Shut up flat.head! Leave the Yorubas out of this we are not sentimental, when Fayose and his Cronies were sharing state funds did he remember the Yoruba race or what have Yorubas benefited from the uncultured man if not disgrace.

Shut up. it is not because you are not sentimental, it is beacause Fayose is like an outcast being an anti PMB and PDP. Fashola was accused of corruption and i did not see you guys as "haters of corruption" call the EFCC to investigate him at least to proof his innocence despite all the petitions. You guys defended him to the last. Tinubu was left off the hook from CCT mistakenly which they CCT confirmed,i did not see you guys call for his trail so that he can proof his innocence on the allegation. I can go on and on again. This shows your anti corruption support is based on people involved.
If Rochas falls into this kind of trouble Fayose is now, many ibos will support the EFCC,in fact, they will volunteer information that would nail him. What Fayose is to you is what Rochas is to them. Do you now see that you all are the same? You guys form anti corruption when it is the people you hate but when it involves people you love, you start making and accepting excuses. You guys are just funny and that is why i don't take your anti corruption posture seriously.

With the way things are going, 2019 elections will be very bloody. It will be a fight to finish.Politics of bad blood has crept into our system again as corrupt PMB and corrupt Fayose slug it out.

I just pity Nigerians without a 2nd passport especially those ones that lick politicians smelly asses.