Pidgin2:


"Can save up over time" depending on state and type of house. Do you read at all? E. g in Ibadan where land and cost of living isn't as expensive as in Lagos, over a period of 4 to 5 yrs it's possible. It will be a good gradual process

Take care.

Babaelemu:
Thank you. Sorry no offence I will never try to answer your questions reason being YOU WILL NEVER TRY TO COMPREHEND.

salford:

can you post a link to support this post?
Thanks.
i just checkead now and it is still: 4 out of 6 years.

Babaelemu:
Before answering your questions I need you to answer this one question .... where do you reside?

Babaelemu:
The only reason to leave a job of 400K per month should only be IF YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER IN NIGERIA. At the age of 35 you are still willing to migrate and live your life for uncertainty. As a BLACK man and again a FOREIGNER in developed country (built by whites) If you like have PHD, PPD, BSC or whatever you call it you are still gonna have it very tough and you are still gonna prove yourself x3 for any position against the citizen and permanent resident.

At 35 with that income you should be thinking how to establish, create employment and give your family the best in life. Abroad drains energy physically and mentally from certification, to paper, to learning the culture (it takes years to adapt)

Abroad is not designed as a place to get everything easily it a place to live a simple and easy life and this takes lot of years working.

queenfav:
Good morning fam.. Please i intend to apply for a tourist visa next month.I already have an invitation letter to a conference in Chicago holding in September this year.Please house, what documents do i need to take with me for the interview?Btw i am not married, though i am employed as a legal practitioner and also owns a business.Is it necessary to go with my CAC certificate of registration of business name and professional credentials?Please i would need all the tips i can get from the gurus in the house.I can't afford to spend 60k on visa application and end up being denied.Help a sister here biko. Thanks in advance.

miella:

It is not down. Maybe you should use a system or update your adobe app.

miella:

There is a thread for IELTS...'preparing for IELTS' you can download the materials there.
You can also download it from this page https://www.nairaland.com/2624318/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/101

boldinc:
No you cannot... Only General Training is accepted!

MamaOO:

I am sorry bro, but I have to tell you this. This your sister and her family's plan is DOE. This is the reason why a lot of people end up stuck in the system here with nothing to show for iot after years and years of living in the US.

Legal residency/citizenship or even Employment Authorization, they cannot get. Home (Nigeria) they cannot go back to because of shame and the automatic ban once they step out of the US. Some even have deportation orders pending for them. How in the world do you think they will emigrate to the US on a visiting visa and get their "stay" visa? On what basis? Fraudulent marriage to an American?

They both would have to divorce each other before they can even think about getting married to an American for papers. But remember, they came here as a couple. Married. Good luck convincing USCIS that the new marriage is not a sham paper one. Even if one is lucky, who will file for the other one? Abi they will remarry each other? I am confused. You better advise them before they make a mistake they would come to regret.

They might say, no need to have papers, living in America is enough and I will have a better life. But have they thought of the fear of living in a stage of never knowing? They see a cop on the road, their heart will start beating fast hoping that the cop doesn't stop them and ask for their ID. They can never drive (except if they wanna do that without a license, which is a crime). They can't work (except for under the table employers who will treat them like crap). They can't leave the country. Their first child who came here with them can't go to college, he either has to produce an SSN which he doesn't have or apply for a student visa. They cant get health insurance. They're stuck. That's not the kind of life I wish my loved ones

maternal:


@Keni I'm no female.

iyaaliyah:
Drama Drama Drama. Lolll. I love me some. No vex.

But really, VO tells you ho ha, 'sorry, you are not qualified at this time' and you pick your passport and leave. The worst is you ask the VO why you are not qualified. Some will tell you and some won't. Maybe kaptainAfrica should add 'sorry' next time. Looooolll.

Whoever is not ready to read from page 0 to the end to me, should not get angry because people here refuse to answer your questions.

*kizzzzzez* (in fals voice).

TheCongo2:


Me attitude means ONLY MY OPINION Counts or ONLY MY OPINIONS ARE FACTS.
If anyone doesn't agree with me, he is either an IDIOT or should educate Himself.
This is a very wrong attitude to be displayed by someone who called himself educated.
You should handle debate on NAIRALAND the same way you would handle academic discussions.
I don't know which school you went to, but in an academic discussion, you don't call someone an IDIOT or tell them they are IGNORANT and should educate themselves. You would get a zero mark and can even be suspended from school.
Pigrin2 doesn't understand how Child Care Benefits work in Canada. You could educate her the way FelizO1 did without been condescending. You further told Pigrin2 that "I know you're use to having a child starve to death ...". How do you even know that Pigrin2 is used to see hungry children?

On a different note, you indicate that "With welfare they'd get free housing, medical, dental, prescription drugs and tuition when they're in University".
That is untrue. I don't know where you get the concept of free housing from. People on welfare pay housing even though the amount is subsidized. In terms of medical care, what the Canadian government covers is just the basics that doesn't even include the dental care. Welfare recipients have to pay for the cost of dental care.
Also, there is no such thing as welfare recipient getting free tuition in school. Someone can't be on welfare and be a full time student at the same time. In Ontario for example, anyone on Welfare who is attending university would be automatically removed from Welfare and would be asked to apply for OSAP.

Adventure15:


I got mine too this morning. My headache now is how to raise the Money / show correct proof of fund.
Can any one help with how to go about this. I can borrow the money but six months statement required.
... Should I just borrow fund. It will not be up to six months as only 90 days was given

Which other way can I show this proof of fund.

Help me with advise my fellow experienced naira landers.

efismikoko:


See I dint have it easy in fact I suffered after school I even had the option on getting out because I have siblings over there that were inviting me.
But I have this thing for "what is mine is mine" you don't want to know what I did after school but today 10years after school I can beat my chest
The opportunity I had then was given to my cousin then 10yrs now he is doing alright in Yankee no doubt but he still trips how I did it in Nigeria I have made life very comfortable for myself Legally and no connection
I don't have problem with you guys going but please don't come on social media and show others beauty of other countries and telling them to come over making us loose valuable youths because they want to make dollars

iphiechuks:
Good day pple,

A friend of mine applied for B1/B2 visa with the husband in 2015 thru an agent and was granted.
They travelled same year, she stayed for 3 weeks cos of her work and hubby stayed for 5 month.
Hubby travelled again alone and overstayed.
Hubby returned and applied for student visa alone but both hubby and wife where invited for interview and also interviewed separately.
The VO asked the wife if she knows why the hubby overstayed and she said that he is an adult that have his own mind.
Hubby refuse to tell the wife what he was asked at the interview.
Her hubby visa was revoked and he was banned for 5years

Now the confusion:
The wife wants to renew her expired visa alone and she is scared if her hubby's issue will affect her renewal.

She does not know all the information on the form cos she was not be person that filled the form like mother's and father's date of birth.

Please house, what do u advise she should do?

Mosaku147:

I don't believe your story of been at the US embassy to renew your visa because visa renewal is usually done by Dropbox i.e through courier service except you have not travelled for 1 year since the expiration of your last visa. But for someone who has gone in and out of a America 14 times, again, it's had to believe you will not have a valid visa at any point in time. If for whatever reason you had been given the usual two years B1&B2 visa once or twice, does it mean you travelled the 14 times you claimed once every 3 months or at 6 weeks intervals as the case may be?
What they realized people like you do is to enter and work illegally for 5 months and 3 weeks,return to Nigeria for 2 weeks and go back again just to beat the immigration rule of not staying more than 6 months at a stretch. Thank God you said the new executive order has Nigerians like you on their watchlist too.
So take heart bro, America don wake up to our backyard game.

nefertitiram:


It's the trump effect... So sad you had to experience all that.

Why dont you take a trip to dubai?

Pidgin2:


Lol God cannot be angry with him for saying the truth, maybe you can give us examples of outstanding Canadian/Nigerian citizens who have relocated and compare that to the number of well known Nigerian citizens who recide here and who would have otherwise settled for an average Joe faith if they had relocated.

Let's take the creative industry as a case study: the likes of Tuface Idibia, King Sunny Ade,(late)Fela Anikulakpo Kuti, Tiwa Savage, Joke Sylvia, Kaffy and others all leveraged on their Nigerianess lol which Canadian/Nigerian abroad is in their league in the creative industry? Average Joes

Pidgin2:


Why are you posting false information? Recession began barely two years ago with the coming of Buhari's administration.

So we should all reject Nigeria because of it. How many Americans rejected their country during the US recession? Prices of goods will certainly come down once we have a good economic team

blank:


Nigeria was just in recession. Recession is 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. Our economy was growing before that. Just thought to point that out.

Pidgin2:


Lol used cars are easy to get in America, it's not an investment and it is certainly not supposed to be an achievement for you as it is necessary to have one there unlike here where one can decide to use public transport for commuting to save cost.

Pidgin2:


Even America was in recession a few years ago yet they bounced back so why do I get the feeling that you think we will never come out of this? So to you being in recession at the moment is now a valid reason to make a long-term decision like relocating forever the best way forward

Schwartz:
But when you uproot yourself from a business environment you know so well, and attempt to plant yourself in a new environment, especially one that is structured and controlled, the task of success is even more challenging. But I welcomed the brunt, the fire, the baptism of starting all over again…and boy, did I suffer the pain of starting a business in the land of 'white spirits’. No old school boy networks, no existing client base, and no clear understanding of the operational mechanics of the given geographical space. One had to go back to school. One had to work on the side. One had to support his growing family.
From being Kese Jabari, a celebrity and renowned designer and label, one became just another African struggling to secure the mirage that is packaged as the American dream, in a land branded as the land of 'milk and honey'. There were moments of doubt... but the good Lord was faithful again. He blessed us, more than ever before, 'with our cup running over'.
https://www.nairaland.com/3619921/sabina-umeh-akamune-kese-jabari-mode

I have been privileged to be in 3 western countries and I tell you, except you have a job offer already waiting for you, when you relocate abroad you WILL start from the beginning. 400k per month translates to 4.8million naira per annum. No matter how expensive things have become in Nigeria with a prudent lifestyle you can save good of that money and build yourself, you can open a good business, buy land, become a landlord. All those quoting that the money is just 800$ I just laugh. Living abroad is expensive! Forget stories of people making it in 8 months. If true out of say 500 Nigerians abroad how many have been able to finish all certification exams, pass and get good paying white collar jobs? Even at that when your pay cheque is handed to you after all tax deduction how much do you pay for housing, bills etc? Tell us the truth when you live abroad can you truly save much? All the houses and cars abroad people pose with on social media its all got on credit.
If you cannot manage with 400k and save and make something good out of your life you can never succeed any where else in the world. Its not easy anywhere, that I am sure.
If you earn little then you can come abroad. A very close friend of mine lived in Lekki, drove only brand new cars. With the wau she lived we can conclude that she was a 'big girl', she sold everything and now lives abroad. She does menial jobs now. And lives in a tiny room. The rent she pays per month abroad is equivalent to what she was paying for in Lekki. That is how expensive it is to live abroad. And yes she regrets her decision even with the light, water and all the amenities available. I see so many people take this big step without calculating the risks. Its not greener on the other side.

anuoluwa222:
Good afternoon everyone, please I need the opinion of the guru here.
My father is inviting me and my brother to US(B2) he has been there for over 10years and he has a new family der(wife and children). Please also note that me brother and I ain't employed though we have our personal business(not registered though). I read somewhere that for you to have a shot the VO must be convinced that you are coming back to nija. And my dad is the one sponsoring us infact he his d one sending the application from US. Please wah chance do we have.
Thanks for your honest response

ApexTitan:
Like I've been saying throughout this thread there are actually good and valid reasons to want to remain in Nigeria but those reasons fall outside the realm of personal financial/economic prosperity. In fact, if it were based on just those factors then remaining in Nigeria is not the wisest of choices especially if one has the chance now to relocate.

You are not doing your side of the debate any good with the points you are raising as those are even compelling reasons why anyone with the means should leave immediately. Most, if not all, of the responsibilities that the middle class in Nigeria currently bear, have long since been borne by the state in first world nations like Canada. As a result, the middle class there is free to channel its resources, time and effort to professional/personal development and wealth creation.

The middle class in 9ja do not have this luxury; they are still digging their own boreholes, patching their own roads, buying generators to supply their own electricity etc. The quality of education in public schools is now way below the desired level required for life in the 21st century, it was not like this when the current crop of leaders attended them back in the day.

Pidgin2:



Alternative medicine here is an option which people use (just like in China and India) our grand parents lived very long too. As for Western medicine, some states do give free basic health care to pregnant women and children under 5. Most government and state hospitals are heavily subsidized

Nigeria is not hell, contrary to what you might think so someone earning N400K a month can expand his wealth greatly in an almost tax free country.

def111:


well I hear another news. how true is this beautiful lie.. Trump’s immigration war as he signs a
visa-free travel policy for Nigerians – Vanguard

LagosNIV:
There has been a lot of confusion surrounding the recent Executive Order on immigration signed by President Trump. The only change that affects our Nigerian visa applicants at this time is that Dropbox renewal is only available to applicants who previously held a visa in the same category that expired less than 12 months prior to the new application.

LadyGuinivere:

Please where is this contained?
The executive order affects misrepresenters here; folks that don't declare their crayfish; folks that work on a B visa or overstay...
Them boku o! Plus the guy tht just posted about wanting to relocate and reapplying...