₦airaland Forum

fratermathy:
Of course. Things are not right!

But Igbos/Biafrans shouldn't dare to add Urhobo to their struggle just like one poser did this morning. Everybody in Nigeria wants out. Igbos should stop thinking Urhobos, Isokos, Itsekiris and other minority groups want anything to do with them or their struggle.

IF Nigeria disintegrates, and that's a big IF, more than 10 splinter countries will evolve because no group wants to repeat the Nigerian experience with another group. No one can leave one domination for another. Alliances can be done but it'll be based on discussions, not by force or by adding people to maps that they are not interested it.

This is the stand of the Urhobo on this : http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/urhobo-denounces-inclusion-in-map-of-biafra/

Ihwo r'Urhobo guoni Biafra a! We don't want Biafra so Igbos should carry their load and go their way. Leave us to say what we want in this. You can't write the story of other people.

I'm Igbo but not a fan of Biafra. I prefer a prosperous Nigeria where Igbos will have the freedom to develop at their pace without being drawn back by others especially the North. I prefer Nigeria with true federalism to Biafra.

That said, I want to assure you that in the event of Nigeria's division, Urhobo cannot thrive as a nation neither can the Niger Delta stand as a country.
The massive failure of Delta and Bayelsa States gives credence to the terrible leadership qualities of Niger Deltans. I mean, these states have budgets of over 250 billion naira per annum, yet there are no developmental strides to show that crazy amount flowing into the states.

Again, the several minority tribes of the Niger Delta esp Delta State don't even trust themselves. Itsekiris don't trust Urhobos and Ijaws while Igbos (Aniomas) don't trust any of the other groups. Same for the Ijaws. How can you guys live as a nation? Or do you think there will be Federal Republic of Urhobo, Federal Republics of Itsekiri, Ijaw, Ikwerre etc?

By and by, the minority tribes of the Niger Delta will do better if they enter an agreement with Biafra and operate based on true federalism, in the event that Nigeria wants to divide. Any other option for them will be a terrible choice.

Highbruno:
Na wa o,some people lack wisdom and insight. why this man leave him beautiful wife and kids just because of that macho looking Laura ikeji.

Did you read that the woman took him to court for infidelity and he lost some assets? What does that tell you? She divorced him.

This LAUTECH issue is rubbish!
Let each state convert the campus in its territory to its state university.

When the old Anambra state was divided into Anambra and Enugu states, the Awka campus of the former Anambra State University remained Anambra State University which was later taken over by the FG and became Nnamdi Azikiwe University. The Enugu campus became Enugu state University.

In 1996 when Ebonyi state was carved out from Enugu and Abia states, the Abakaliki campus of ESUT automatically became Ebonyi state University.

I know the states of Osun and Oyo already have their universities. Each should take over the campus of LAUTECH in its territory and merge it with its own university.

As for the lecturers, they should equally be absorbed into the 2 states' workforce.

Trut:
That's JANJAWEEEED government for you

Mehn! It's been a long while I heard that word on Nairaland. Chai!
supporter of APC!
Oh, I see! Nairaland censored it to "supporter of APC". No wonder.
JANJAWEEED!

BABANGBALI:
we are talking about examination malpractice,you are busy talking about pronunciation that is a problem of every tribe in Nigeria.
Tell your people to pronounce the followings

Oil
London
America
Region
Love
River
Liver

Abeg don't just start what you can't finish

Read the post of the person I quoted before yarning dust. Go back and read!
Don't engage in arguments you don't know their roots.

AbakalikiPress:
It is not a surprise to other Nigerians anymore that the highest prevalence of Exam malpractices in the entire nation is in the SOUTH EAST.
Thats why majority of them who call themselves so called university graduates will still call Aeroplane "Elloprane" and believe that Russia comes to Nkpor to buy Nuclear missiles.

What of majority of Yoruba graduates that will say "The Heroplane as landed hat the hairport"? Even the professors are not spared. Thank God the VP isn't disgracing us in like manner.

In the South East, malpractices are curbed and attempts are made to nip them in the bud. What do other regions do? They shield their own candidates.
Are you dumb enough to think there were no malpractices elsewhere? How come they were not reported?

Few years ago, Anambra closed down all the WAEC special centres. People insulted the state on this forum because of that, yet the state maintained the first 2 positions in performances after that. That goes a long way to show that the students there are brainy (with or without malpractice).

Guestlander:
Calm yourself down kid. There's no evidence of deliberate or systemic scheme to hold anyone down.

Even the Lagos you are all screaming about was on a downward trend after the Federal government moved to Abuja until the civilian government came in and luckily the governors of Lagos have done remarkably well to rescue the trend.

Tell your own governors to put your states and your people first.

Lagos wasn't on any real downward trend biko. All the states were a mess as a result of military rule, but Lagos had the infrastructures, the system (airport, sea ports, industries, even the population etc) to make it thrive. They were simply underutilized during the military governments. Other states don't even have anything at all.

timilehin95:
I laff in 4G
If lagos dare become a country, u will be surprised to see d high number of foreign nd local investors begging to be accepted in d new country

Talking about companies relocating their headquarters to other states... Which state in Nigeria do u think they gonna relocate to nd be making waves d way they are doing in lagos.

The major, most functional, easiest, busiest nd d best seaport nd airport are all in Lagos, so tell me wat else do a country needs

You don't get it. If Lagos is cut off from the rest of Nigeria, Lagos seaport will only be servicing the Republic of Lagos with its 20 million inhabitants or so. The population will even drop by the time many non-citizens will be forced to return back to their country (Nigeria). Nigeria will be forced to develop the other seaports like in Akwa Ibom, Calabar and Port Harcourt, even Ogun to handle our imports.

Lagos just discovered very little oil, so the oil companies located in Lagos are there because of Niger Delta oil wells. That will equally change as the companies will relocate back to the Niger Delta or other parts of Nigeria.

Remember many investors flood into Lagos not only because of the city, but because of Nigeria's population, and they settle down in Lagos since it's Nigeria's economic capital. If Lagos becomes independent with less than 20 million population, mind you that the rest of Nigeria will still have about 160 million population. Investors will shift focus from Lagos to Nigeria cos that is where the market is.

Lagos has no land again. Further development will be very difficult. The Republic cannot even feed itself in the least form. They can't attain self sufficiency in producing any food crop not even rice, cassava yam etc, cos they just don't have arable land for agriculture. All the food will be imported.

Lagos is only doing well because it is servicing the whole Nigeria (with a population of about 180 million). Cut Lagos off the rest of Nigeria, deprive it of that massive population, and see it fall like a pack of cards.

timilehin95:
Thrive on wat it thrived on when obasanjo refused allocations to lagos during his tenure... U can make further research nd tell me if lagos is not a potential country

Lagos makes a lot of money from the ports, multinational companies, different industries etc mainly because Nigeria is one country. Let Lagos become a republic and see if the oil companies won't all relocate. Other air and seaports will open up to service Nigeria. By then, you realise that the massive revenue of Lagos has to do with the fact that it is the economic capital of a country with 180 million people.

houstonia:
this Lagos will not agitate like IPOB but will shock Nigerans the day it will officially be declared a republic.

Funny you.
The economy of that republic will thrive on what?

iluvpomo:
The only reason that is happening is because of very high birth rates and not necessarily conversions. Uneducated Muslims (and these numbers are very high) tend to have a lot of kids ... a typical example of this in Nigeria is the north.

Exactly!
While an average native European family may have 1 child or at most 2, these Muslim immigrants have 6 - 8 children. It's actually their calculated attempt to overrun Europe in the next 50 to 100 years.

ODVanguard:
Don't mind him. I'll help you jare. Below are pictures of a typical compound or 'backyard' in Obinagu, Afikpo in modern day Ebonyi.

Aerial view of a town is what I asked for. Don't show me an isolated house in a village.
Every part of Nigeria has similar houses in its remote rural communities.

MENELIK1:
Yes, Osu, the way you are proud of your thatched roof!

Can you show us an aerial view of just a town, one town, in the south east that has the thatched roofs you are talking about. We need to show Nairalanders how terrible the South East looks.
I need just ONE picture of only ONE town.
Thank you.

RichYoungNigga:

What??

Another national embarrassment

Is South Africa that cold ??

I've been to South Africa for a business meeting several times during the hot and cold season

It's even colder in Nigeria than in South Africa

Even in the USA where it snows heavily in the winters,
it's now summer and you can't walk outside​without melting

You can take someone out of the forest but you can't take the forest out of her

South Africa is in the Southern Hemisphere, and they experience their winter in June and Summer in December. This is May, so they are in Autumn, speedily approaching winter. That explains why it was cold for her.

Mind you that even if the temperature is only 16°C, it will still be very cold for someone not used to cold exposure. Most Nigerians will be shivering if they are locked up in a room with the AC blowing at 16°C.

MENTORCH:
What are you saying.

Is it so difficult for you to understand?
Nobody is in quote, meaning that it isn't nobody in absolute terms, rather fewer people who are relatively insignificant in the polity showed up, compared to the high and mighty that were in Minna.
Na wa for you o.

MENTORCH:
Who told you people didn't show up, didn't you see tony elumelu,oni of ife,Oba of Lagos. Obviously they would have been so many other people.

That's why I wrote 'nobody'.

missKiffy:
So that is what you will use to judge who is relevant and who is not

What would you have preferred to use, dear?

IBB's daughter got married and the whole country was there. Obj's son now got married and 'nobody' showed up. Is Obj that irrelevant in Nigeria?

Omofunaab2:
Why would yorubas pronounce oyinbo as "oye Ibo " when oyinbo itself has a literary meaning in Yoruba language which translates to peeled skin / bleached skin.

Oyibo in IGBO has no literary meaning , what you have is stories about how the whites were calling igbos "onye Ibo " and you in turn called them oyibo. .

And there's another version being peddled by igbos, and that's the Equaino Olaudah's version.

Your version isn't that straightforward while the yorubas is because oyinbo has a literary meaning in Yoruba language

I didn't say Yorubas will pronounce oyinbo as oye ibo. I said they will pronounce onye Igbo as oye ibo.

What do you mean by literary meaning of Oyibo in Igbo? Have you not learnt about etymology before? Different words in different languages are formed through different means.

Mind you that Igbo language isn't as progressive as Yoruba language. Yoruba language gets new words every year, while I can't say the same of Igbo language in the past 20 years.

I'm not trying to say Yorubas learnt Oyibo from Igbos. I'm only implying that there might have been 2 or more different routes to the development of the word, oyibo. While I might ascribe the pidgin version pronounced as òyìbó to the Yorubas (though the removal of the 'n' is another issue), I still maintain that óyíbó of the Igbos has no link with oyinbo.
EOD

Omofunaab2:
And yet oyibo has not literary meaning in IGBO except for the assumption that the whites were calling you onye ebo, but oyinbo in yoruba has its own literary meaning, it means bleached or peeled skin in Yoruba. .and this word has been in existence since 1852 .and it was included in our dictionary.

I have heard lots of versions about this oyibo issh from igbos,

Have you heard of the equaino oluadoh version?

I've told you that 'oyibo' pronounced óyíbó (not òyìbó) means English language. I don't know when exactly it came into use, but it's been for a very long time.
Moreover, the 'onye Igbo' explanation makes a lot of sense. When the whites came to Igbo land, they referred to Igbos as Ibos, which many Nigerians including Yorubas still use till date.
I can bet you that nearly half of Yorubas without any exposure to Igbo language will pronounce 'onye Igbo' as 'oye ibo' today (which obviously will sound as oyibo. However, the òyìbó pronunciation of the pidgin version may have come from oyinbo of Yorubas.

Omofunaab2:
And yet in 1852 ,oyinbo was in the Yoruba dictionary

Was the word formed in 1852? Yoruba dictionary was compiled then, but the words were already in existence even before then. Same applies to Igbo words and the Igbo dictionary.
Believe me, there was no mix between Yorubas and Igbos as at the 19th century, yet Igbos already had the word 'oyibo' as at then.

Omofunaab2:
It was corrupted by other tribes but in Yoruba it's spelt oyinbo

Well, even before there was a clear mix between Igbos and Yorubas, Igbos have always referred to abroad as "obodo oyibo" and English language as "oyibo".

Omofunaab2:
Oyinbo is a Yoruba word,

ajayi crowther compiled the Yoruba dictionary in 1852

And it was regarded as a Yoruba word.

Igbo dictionary was compiled by Ajayi crowther in 1857

If it's a Yoruba word, how did the 'n' get lost from the widely accepted spelling?

MetaHuman:
Lol



The same people who hailed CAN and blasted buhari and every muslim in nigeria when CAN asked nigeria to pull out of islamic country sport will be here again bashing muslims for saying they should ban cross sign.


Hypocrisy and christianity.

Just disgusting.

Is Nigeria an Islamic Nation?

Diplomaticbeing:
It's obvious he's suffering from Guillian-Barre Syndrome.

Na wao.
It's obviously prolapsed intervertebral disc. Even the Bohler Braun frame gives it away.

MrBrownJay1:
But of course, because in your mind there is only ONE emergency per day, so there is ALWAYS a car available for YOUR emergency, right?

I read your other comments.
Guy, stop defending the indefensible. Live wire on the ground is a MAJOR environmental hazard that should be dealt with immediately. I don't know any other emergency that will be more important to a power holding company.

You are blaming the parents. Have you considered the possibility of the parents not being at home, and probably left the child with maids or elder ones?

Who even told you the child was playing around the live wire? The report only said the child went to play. What if the child only wanted to jump over it, and as a kid, he might not even know that the ground around the wire would be charged cos of water and moisture?

Your attempt at blaming the parents is very sickening.

FrankGiel:
Okay, I get ur point now Kenny.. My question is, why use chibok girls??of all places why a christian community??
2. Do u think this plan was with the consent of their parent?
3. Do u think when they come out, this plan will no be revealed??
Remember some girls escaped and they claimed to have been kept in the forest. Some girls also claimed that they were divided.. Some said some of their friends died in air strikes...
4. Why did Jonathan with all his intelligence not find out those places, why did the American govt not know that this was a hoax, at least they have better Intel.

1. Of course, BH activities were centred around Christian communities. Most of the communities that were raided in the North East were Christian communities, so the case of Chibok shouldn't have been different.
2. I don't think so. I may be wrong, anyway.
3. It may not be immediate, but the truth will come out later. Moreover, the girls may not even know the whole truth.
My brother, those girls were not in the forest. The military claimed to have raided all BH camps in Sambisa, and they didn't find any girls. Moreover, those girls are too fresh to have been living in the forest for the past 3 years.
Forget about the stories. There are SO MANY inconsistencies with the stories told about the Chibok saga so far.
4. Even the military, police and DSS under Jonathan were compromised. Of course there were many top government officials who were BH sympathisers.
Remember the US sent troops initially to help find the girls, but they pulled out later. Have you found out why? US govt knows much more about BH than so many Nigerians.

deomelo:
So, the scam after so many years, we still don't know that BH kidnapped the girls?

And why should we broadcast out to the world where they were kept when our men are still out there fighting and hunting down the same terrorist?


Exactly what are you and the twitter joker are going to do with the info about where they were kept? Are ou going to head up to Sambisa to go kill or capture the terrorist yourself?

Opposition in Nigeria today is very very laughable.

Sometimes I just don't get you people?

But the military said they have cleared ALL Boko Haram camps in Sambisa. Which other Sambisa are you talking about?
Our men are out where exactly fighting BH? Where exactly is the focus of the fight against BH now?

FrankGiel:
Kenny, the claim by many In the south is that, there was no abduction.. Let's not shift the Goal post..
Kenny u didn't address any of the issues I raised..

I don't agree with you. When people say it's a scam, they mean the girls were not actually kidnapped by the terrorists. People believe it was an arrangee thing, and they girls were kept in palaces and fortified places in the north.
Yeah, a few people believe there wasn't any kidnap or pseudo-kidnap at all, but they are in the minority.

FrankGiel:
I'm disgusted by many of us from the the south. GEJ with all the intelligence at his disposal hasn't denied that girls were kidnapped..
Many people from the south have allowed hate blind their sense of reasoning.
Chibok is a CHRISTIAN community, I repeat a christian community.. If you have any christian friend in the North residing in a christian community, ask them how they feel about Muslims.. There is so much animosity between Christians and Muslims.. I know some communities in Jos , where Muslims dare not step into.

So to think that a Christian community will collaborate with the Muslims to bring down a christian government is the height of madness.. To think that the chibok community will allow their kids to be kidnapped to help their Muslim neigbours is madness.. To think that the chibok community elders will sit still and allow their community be rubbished for the sake of propaganda is madness..

Some stories might not add up, that doesn't mean that girls were never taken.. Its best critics just shut the hell up and not add insult yo injury..

Your thinking and submission are flawed. The scam isn't in whether girls were abducted or not, but rather it's a question of who really abducted them. Where were the girls kept all these years?

When you talk about the Christian - Muslim animosity, never forget that Northern Christians are a minority, and considered grossly insignificant by the Muslims, especially in a state like Borno that is predominantly filled with Muslims.

Just an attack by Boko Haram is enough to silence any community that wants to raise their voice in the North East.

North Central states like Plateau, Nasarawa and Benue have a Christian majority, so they can stand their ground over some issues.