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Fastpace:
if God want a child to be born let say today for a purpose,and u stop that from coming 2ru any method isn't that a sin?

First as an atheist I don't play the god gamble. It makes you give shallow reasoning as you have done above and even makes such god petty. Of what purpose does your god have for the millions of children born through rape during wars and have to live with HIV all their life? Of what purpose does your god have for the children dying every day in IDP camps? Of what purpose do the countless almajiris roaming the north who are products of a poor father who can't stick to 2 or 3 kids rather overpopulate the country with begging children who can easily become Boko haram foot soldiers?

Now, if you had taken your time to read my initial post or done more research about BOM you would have realised that its a natural method which does not contravene religious teachings or what you people regard as sin.

If you have sex whenever and are fertile and healthy, without any natural or artificial contraceptive, you will get pregnant regardless whether you think its a sin or not.

There are one or two natural family planning methods I know of that do not involve invasive procedures like the OP mentioned,swallowing of all sorts of contraceptive drugs, withdrawal method or use of condoms. The B illings O vulation M ethod is one of such safe and natural process of family planning/birth control that does not contravene most religious laws. With BOM, regular intimacy takes place but done when the couple is most certain the wife is on her infertile days in other not to lead to conception or done when the couple actually wants conception to take place. With regular mastery of BOM, preselection of female or male child by the couples can be done with 80 to 90 percent accuracy. I am also aware some (orthodox) churches like the Catholic Church teach such in their marriage classes.

Sometimes even for a 100% healthy couple,being ignorant of your most fertile day in a cycle and missing the chance to have serx that window period can be what leads to childlessness in couple for years despite regular serx which probably had been taken place on infertile days. This is what Billings method aim to teach, identifying your most fertile days, choosing whether to have serx or not on such days and save yourself the stress of going under the knife to remove your womb and related surgical procedures.

Ask google for more info on Billings Method.

Finally no more excuse not to work extra because you are starving yourself of just lunch fasting.

cheddie:
I don't think you have sense .You blind Antichrist

Ok you have been duly noticed! Move along now! I don't have time for non jews who have been told to eat and drink the flesh and blood of a Jewish zombie.
@OP
That's why I'm still proud of my Benin monarchial traditions. No time and place for Jewish and arab tradition.

Bye bye Yoruba tradition and culture, welcome the culture of the infamous dead jew.

JumaiM:
Oooo oh! You for leave Mr Davien for me na. Why you make him understand I just dey pull hin legs

Lol... davien na my guy!

solaugo1:
Hen hehe....no one is talking about smartweb.com ....my host...but I am leaving them soon.....

Qserver was my host before now...

May I know why you plan to leave smartweb? A good friend of mine recommended smartweb to me. I'll like to know if going for smartweb is a wise choice...

davien:
An inch further and you could be a terrorist.

I think JumaiM is just being sarcastic. You can tell from the smileys after her posts.

LordIsaac:
Jesus didn't appologise to the Pharisees, Saducees and Sanhendrines! Instead, he pronounced ''woe'' on them. And Apostle Paul said Christians should not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers....think about this!

In other words Jesus supports wilful killing of unbelievers.Jesus supports the unnecessary constant hatred and death threats to gays. Jesus supports the exploitation of the weak and the poor for Church gains. Jesus supports the use of guns to fight holy wars against unbelievers.

This your Jesus would rather ask you to say Woe than I am sorry for unnecessary exploitations, death threat issuances and murders under the guise of christianity.

I'm not surprised! It also means you can kill an innocent human being who just happens to be gay or any other adjective that does not conform to your terms as a so called christian.

Lol...As usual the part where ask for forgiveness from the poor, the weak,the exploited for labour, blessing of GUNS USED IN CHURCH HOLY WARS e.t.c will be conveniently skipped and the main context of the message lost.

And so?

Kenyan28:
This must be the latest gibberish from this b*****! HS my foot! NKT!

. Discerning eyes are opened on Jo and Christ Embassy frauds. Will keep referring to this thread and others to enlighten possible gullible ones.

Elxandre:
I'm not the only one in the world who doesn't find her funny!

I also do not find her funny!

Mortgage isn't all that bad na! Meanwhile mortgage can be taken same time you get a raise, so you use the raise to pay the monthly payment. People should also learn to join co-operatives at their workplace. Co-operative interest rate on loans are lesser when compared to banks. Many civil servants use such type of loans to build their houses and the good thing is you get your cooperative savings earned whenever you retire or wish to pull out as long as you have finished paying back your loan.

Happy Birthday Sir and Happy retirement! We the people of Edo State are proud to have had you properly handling the affairs of Nigerian Police Force.I have been with a lot of Police Officers this past two days and they all were singing your praise. You are a true son of Edo state. All the Best Sir!

italo:
You will 'know,' perhaps when it's too late.

Yawn!

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italo:
No mind people wey dey crase.

But this OP is an Atheist that still can't let go of Christianity...because...

No Jesus, no peace.

I'm also atheist like the OP( without the funny questions though). Guess no Jesus, No peace for me too

Do not for once think that monthly stipend of 20k is love. Your wife already makes 150k and spends only 75k out of it! Don't start what you can not finish, would have been different if she was unemployed

Advice 1: Send that 20k into your kid's account monthly. And if you are already running one for your kid top it up with the 20k. No harm there.
Advice 2: Nigerians have a poor health emergency saving scheme. Open a savings account today with that 20k, if you already have an account for health related issues top it up with the 20k.

kITATITA:
Why do you call Oritsejafor Papa? Why do you call Adeboye and Oyedepo Daddy? Go and read the Bible. I have even noticed recently that Oyedepo followers are wearing his medallion.

Really? That's a new one. italo will love this kind of information and use it to fire the pentecostals. Unfortunately, dude is no longer a regular here.

tobeetoe:
This could affect you and your biz. Remember you a CEO. God is the all-supreme and you know this deep down. Just quit this and be good. #CeosareNeutralremember

Is there anything in the OP that is false? If so, please point it out for us . Attack the message not the messenger.

Rick9:
Proof of the flying Unicorn's existence is simple, now if you say the flying Unicorn doesn't exist because no one has seen a Unicorn, that's very wrong, now for you to have a knowledge that there is a Unicorn that doesn't exist means Unicorn exists, you can't think of something that doesn't exist, at least you have a knowledge that something doesn't exist if Unicorn never existed you wouldn't think about it at all.

[s]Now According to Anaxagoras whose Philosophical contributions is the Philosophical Concept I admire so much is the 'Concept of NOUS (the Greek word for Mind, Intelligence, Reason)'

Anaxagoras was from Clezomanea in Greece and his major Philosophical contributions was the 'Concept of NOUS which he distinguished from matter.
Anaxagoras said that every thing is a portion of everything but one element often predominate that's why it's called that element, e.g Paper is called paper because paper predominate but what if paper is burnt , you will get ashes now this ashes was a a constituent part of the paper but the paper predominate it, now that the paper has been burnt the elements of ashes now predominate,
Now Anaxagoras said that there's one thing which was never created and always existed it's that which brings all the elements together this is what Anaxagoras referred to as Nous.

"Nous orders everything in the Universe, " and this Nous is interpreted to be GOD.


So my people don't allow anybody to deceive you oh there's a God. Even the babalawos are aware [/s]

Fixed for you. Feel free to replace, the flying Unicorn with any stuff like tooth fairy,Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Spider Man, a.llah, vishnu e.t.c and you will see that same arguments you made for you god can be made for other non-existent entities.

MarshallDwayne:
I believe when I used the word "intelligent", I wasn't categorically saying "all intelligent men are atheist" what I meant was y at atheism requires a level of intellectualism. A clinging to ones reasoning and detachment from dogmatism and sentiments. This can come only through empowering your mind well enough, hence; Intelligence

Good, I think we are clear on the context now. You would be amazed at how easily that word 'intelligent' would be misconstrued.

MarshallDwayne:
Anybody can decide not to believe in God but it takes one who is intelligent to defend his beliefs!. I don't mind you proving me wrong if you do not agree

Read my response to Deseprio above.

DeSepiero:
Anybody can't just be an atheist.
It takes reason to be an atheist.
Religion extols faith (dogma) over reason

Yes Sir, Anybody can be Atheist you just don't have to be brainy as Zuckerber to be one, your second and third sentences are what I want you to stick to. Trust me, I'm saving you a lot of stress from pointless arguments with theists by asking you to define intelligent and its context. Ben Carson can be argued to be intelligent and yet he's not atheist, still does not diminish the fact that he relies on faith rather than reason when it comes to religon.

MarshallDwayne:
I disagree to agree.
Better put "only the intelligent profess atheism".

You might have to define intelligent. Anybody can be atheist.

You are wrong. Only in countries and races where Religion (especially the pentecostal prosperity movement) and poverty are brothers will people have such funny notion.

I don't know her...

johnydon22:
sometimes it is better to keep quiet than to talk, when you talk you say only what you know but when you listen you learn things you don't know.

Abeg Johny, I fit borrow this post take use as status for one of those my social media accounts ? People are complaining that I don't post at all.

Nice one. So when will govt officials start seeking for medical help in Nigeria?