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ShangoThor:

@ DapoBear
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I would be willing to bet my bottom $£N on this that there will be no reaction to this news, no inquiry, no investigations nothing. [/b]Had this been Washington, London, Moscow or Beijing there would be hell to pay and heads would roll. The acts of the placed officials in key positions leaking information is tantamount to espionage/treason.

With every ounce of pain and shamelessness I can muster, I will add $1k to that bet.

Beaf:
I think you are mistaken. These problems emanated from the inept semi-literate military regimes in our past. The people to blame are Buhari, Babangida and Abacha.
All shell had to tell these fools was, "sign here." And with dreams of a jumbo Ghana must go, the fools signed like puppies.
Until Allison Madueke's recent local content bill, Nigerians played no part whatsoever in the drilling of oil. A ll we did was spectate, while shell and chevron did as they liked. If ND peeps complained, shell would fly in the Nigerian army in company helicopters to do the relevant damage.

In modern times, the generals interests have been looked after by the cabal. We've been screwed deep, Nigerians should be screaming for blood.

No I'm not mistaken. Our problem goes deeper into history than the Ineptitude of cowards like IBB, Gowon, OBJ or Abacha. The British played this game before Shell, and we are perfect victims with our insane cultural reverence for leaders and elders. But I will not derail the thread with an historical argument.

I agree with you in principle but the foundational issue still remains that these leaders will not act against their own self interests, Shell or any foreign entity won't either, we need to take our blinders off and start pushing our own interests at the pain of death. This is not surprising to discerning watchers of global politics. You are correct we should scream for blood beacuse we are pawns! We need to accept that fact first then maybe we can get angry.

Edit: Ineptness for ineptitude

DapoBear:
Probably true. I still don't understand why we give Shell so much leway and influence in this country. We are the ones selling them oil and gas, they are not doing us any favors. So why give them that much power?

We did not give them any power they "stole" it through manipulation, treachery and corruption. I will admit though that we did give our leaders too much power, heck! We've always given leaders too much power. from traditional rulers through military to civilians. I'm sorry but, we are a subjugated, oppressed people.  

We need to admit our weaknesses before we can build strenght. Shell and other Corporations act in their own best interests, The question is; when will we do the same?

Beaf:
Shell people are on NL too, causing confusion. It is easy to identify some of them.

No surprises here, Some of us have sung it over and over again on this forum like a broken record -Big Oil owns Nigeria.

At the service were Obasanjo; Babangida; Governors Gbenga Daniel of Ogun State; Alao Akala; Minister of Youth, Senator Akinlabi Olasunkanmi; former Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mrs Olubunmi Etteh; Dr. Yemi Farounbi, Col. Theophilus Bamgboye (rtd); Elder [/b]Segun Akinwusi; Speaker, Osun State House of Assembly, Adejare Bello; former Deputy National Chairman (South) of the PDP, [b]Chief [/b]Shuaib Oyedokun; [b]General Patrick Aziza; former Deputy Governor of Lagos State, Otunba [/b]Femi Pedro; former Osun State Secretary to the State Government (SSG), [b]Alhaji Fatai Akinade Akinbade, and National Vice-Chairman, (South-West) of the PDP, Alhaji Tajudeen Oladipo.

Others were[b] Chief[/b] Nathaniel Oke; Akogun Lere Oyewumi; Mr. Festus Adeyemo; Chief [/b]Funso Isola; [b]Dr. Muyiwa Oladimeji; Chief [/b]Alafe Aluko; Yusuf Alli [b](SAN); Hon. Wole Oke; Evangelist Betty Bakare; Rev. Bunmi Jenyo; Mr. Diran Odeyemi; Elder [/b]Adetoyese Ojo; Hon. Niyi Owolade; Mrs Feyi Fayose; [b]Bishop Fajemirokun; Rev Badejo; Rev Adegoke; Colonel Emmanuel Soda; Alhaji [/b]Ademola Rasaq; Mrs. Kemi Martins; [b]Alhaji Adebayo Adelodun; Otunba Kunle Kalejaye; Mr. Tunde Osanupin; Alhaji Lateef Bakare; [b]Chief [/b]Olufemi Omotara; Dr. Bayo Faforiji and [b]Justice [/b]Oladoke.

Alhaji, Elder, Architect, Pharmacist, Doctor, Chief  reh reh reh!!

That generation and yeye Titles!! Just fix the country Dammit!!

Silly elitist shameless fools celebrating mediocrity and outright theft while wasting their children's generation with theirs!! NONSENSE!!

Reference:
Well I think change is only possible by those on the losing end and this is the political dynamic that has been haunting Nigeria. Power corrupts so you get more power. The assembly has grown in power and wealth proportionately. This is expected. Make life difficult for the executive arm and get money in return.

It will take the moral will of a highly disgruntled section of this country to effect change and only if that section is immune to the money bug. All current activism (save for tanker drivers) revolves around money so how can you effect change. Are we willing to resist salary increases and inflation infested stipends to force their hands on more pertinent matters such as the preservation of our collective wealth.

Militancy is defeated by money. Lecturers - money, students - money, unions - money, doctors - money. The national assembly is simply singing from the same hymn sheet. No one exercises his or her powers for the 'greater good'. Though great is his complaint, the fellow speaking is doing so because he is no longer there. Sanusi who spoke a few days ago has the purse strings of Nigeria under his watch. He can send a memo and place a wedge. After all these monies are earned and payed through banks he controls. But he can do nothing. We can do nothing because we all like money and they (the powers that be) know it.

We seriously need a moral renewal in this country. No constitution or institution can renew the mind as there is no such thing as an unbreakable lock. And because the locksmith is enticed by what lies in the vault it makes me believe sometimes that this country cannot be salvaged.

I agree with you. I will also like to argue that we make it a cultural revolution. Morality is relative, at least for the world we now live in it is. History dealt our societies a harsh blow by truncating the development of our own culture specific institutions and systems of governance.

We had the morality, but it stayed in our shrines and our local cultural minds, it did not evolve with our adoption of western democracy, western religion or western systems of checks and balances, hence this confusion where we celebrate election riggers and looters of public funds at our places of worship and our marketplaces while we burn a 20 Naira thief in the same marketplace

We have "morality" but, we've failed to translate our cultural moral codes and our revulsion into the workings of this imported systems of governance and society. There are so many other examples. I believe we need a moral revolution but it should be on our own terms based on our own ideas of morality and powered by our cultures.

The English did it with their common law, they borrowed the world their Magna Carta and Habeas Corpus. The French did it with their Egalite, liberte and fraternite. The Chinese approached it by carrying a borrowed communist system on the back of a chinese cultural revolution. Hopefully this generation will get there but I'm certain we can't continue like this and we have to make changes our own way. Hopefully there won't be blood. . .

celemel:
Look, the guy was stopped by the police at Mushin Area, People should learn to thread with caution especially when dealing with the Nigeria Police. They kill easily.

I quoted the time on the report but that is beside the point. The issue is that we have a police service murdering Nigerians with impunity. This is clearly murder! That man was not armed -at least the police pro didn't say he was, he was probably running away from perceived danger. I understand your call for caution but, we need to stop providing excuses for murderous policemen. We should be confident when dealing with our policemen, not scared and cautious because they can pump bullets in our heads for no just reason.

This is one of the reasons why i insist we need state or community police service, hired, trained and paid for by the city or local govt, comprised of officers who are fully resident in that community.

BTW, were you inside the unmarked car or you witnessed the actual murder itself? Just curious.

Awomolo was concentrating his research on projects that could eventually help reduce the country's dependence on foreign oil, Nelson said.

"We should live his legacy," she said. "We cannot just turn around.

Bawomolo wasn't just all talk after all, he was working at creating change too. . . We lost a warrior. . .



@Ileke-Idi, Thanks for the update

^^ true scamming is a repulsive act and we should not tolerate it.

BUT the report said he was speeding away from a car incident at 5:30am and the police were not in uniform nor in a police car. I find it hard to believe that there are Nigerians here who think that multiple gunshot to the head and summary execution is an appropriate punishment for scamming or a car incident. I refuse to accept that my people are that desensitized to suffering and oppression

To those praising jungle justice, I hope you never find yourselves as the weaker party in a jungle. Jungle justice is an oxymoron IMO, jungle don't do justice and it doesnt do logic either except you are the stronger party. SMH

tensor777:
Well he apparently was very popular in his area as a practitioner of that nefarious activity. There is not a cat in hell's chance that this slain gangster was not a serial fraudster and 419er. Just die that argument.

Really, 100% sure? No doubt at all? and all these are based on what facts exactly?

However to be fair to all, it is common in Nigeria for law enforcement officers to lose patience with these type of local crime bosses and their never ending arrests and appearances at their local police stations and just decide to waste them by summary execution.

And that justifies shooting this Nigerian several times in the head by that DPO in front of an effing police station? you called that poetic justice?

Oh boy! we still have a lot of work to do o!

Last month, an irate Nigerian rained blows on him

True or Not, I can't stop ROFL at the imagery. . .

Faeb:
The fault is in the useless constitution we inherited from the army. It has nothing to do with the President or the Executive.
How can the President stop those who can sack him, but who he can't sack? The only way is to go the masses and explain matters to them. We are the only checks and balances against the NA SS. [b]Nothing will happen until we take to the streets and threaten revolution.[/b]Now it has been made known to us through a coordinated move by the finance bosses. What are we ready to do about it?

Those are the real issues bro! well said!

So Tukur expect Nigerians to believe that we was simply unaware of the looting? LOL

That is absolute dishonesty but, I'm not surprised, Tukur is from the same generation of backward thinking looters.

Tukur chaired the RMAFC for years! but failed to address the looting like he was empowered to, now he wants to play to the gallery.  

I believe the RMAFC was established as a permanent independent commission and empowered to act without cowering to any institution or body except the constitution?!

I got this from a website that is clearly sympathetic to RMAFC under Tukur;

"The Commission is an autonomous body and is not subject to the direction or control of any other authority or person in the exercise of its power to make appointments or to exercise disciplinary control over persons"

With the present democratic institutions in place, the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and other enabling laws empower the Commission to:

a.  Monitor the accruals into and disbursement of revenue from the Federation Account.

b. Review, from time to time, the revenue allocation formula and principles in operation to ensure conformity with changing realities;

c. Advise the Federal, State and Local Governments on fiscal efficiency and methods by which their revenue is to be increased.

d. Determine the remuneration appropriate to political office holders.

http://www.yashuaib.com/rmafc.htm

Here's another report accusing the commission of bias, influence peddling and outright manipulation. http://allafrica.com/stories/201008050613.html


The new chairman will most probably do nothing. Nothing will change until Nigerians start fighting for change. . .

Quote from: bawomolo on September 23, 2010, 07:41 PM

what do you expect from a homophobic pastor that wears smedium shirts and rides a Bentley

ROFLMAO

Ouch!! that's cold

Quote from: bawomolo on September 30, 2010, 07:57 PM

here is a comment from some youtube loser.
"Send her packing to Kenya with her president usurper, fraud and foreigner, Obama"

obama is a foreigner but the white folks who killed off the native americans are obviously indigenous.


speeds off in GM truck decorated with confederate flag.

Classic! LMAO!

Those were just a few of his witty posts that cracked me up this year. I replied with laughter then, I still laugh every time I go back to read some of them. "Bawomolo" was one of those NL handles I remembered easily when I first joined NL. His smart references and the grace with wish he replied to peoples posts were just pure class!

Like I said on the Other thread; "Bawomolo was a testament to the power of smart rearing and intelligent truth seeking and he earned whatever accolades he's getting here. 21 years of pure class!"

Goodnight smart brotha. . .

birdman:
On a lighter note, I googled alamsdee's curse, and I came up with this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-495020.128.html

check out the raw booty warrior vid,  Bawomolo was definitely a character  

LOL he was a character indeed. I remember that thread! I ghosted on there just cracking up, even when some of those he argued against tried to make him angry, he replied with more wit and greater tact, dude earned my respect from a distance. It was a joy to read a lot of his back and forths with some posters here. I prefer to remember that.

From the little facts we've learnt about him so far, he was a testament to the power of smart rearing and intelligent truth seeking. Bawomolo earned whatever accolades he's getting here.

21 years of pure class!

eldee:
Come on people . . . someone we knew just died, shouldn't we at least put our disagreements aside.
At least just to act up for the parents and family of Bawo who'll definitely stumble upon the biggest Nigerian website's story on their son.

It's not fair on him, he's not just another statistic to be argued about, it's different.

We can argue on any other thread on Nairaland, this is different . . . please.
I don't even know him enough to claim that your actions hurt, but I do know it's disrespectful.

I'm glad you expressed those words in bold. I've been thinking about that myself, at just 21, Nairaland holds a large chunk of Bawo's life and memories, same for many Young Naija's in the diaspora who post here, even the news report said he spent a lot of time on his laptop.

I won't be shocked if his Mom, Sister or Father log on here in their moments of grieve to view a part of their Son and brother's life and thoughts. A lot of which they were probably not privy to, they may not find closure but, I'm confident they will be proud!

@Seun this is obviously not just that small online forum you started, You have a community of living breathing Nigerians on your hands, Immortalize this Dude here! a Board or something -named after Bawomolo- representing what majority believe he stood for will be a good Idea.

Let's keep it decent folks, we'll have enough time to do the NL madness later, |

Ajanaku subu! damn!

This is beyond sad. Witty, smart poster. I will miss reading his quick comebacks and his smart banters with Sagamite and others. My prayers are with Bawomolo's family.

MUST every Civilian President kill and massacre my People in the Niger Delta before they can be called Presidential? is this a rite of passage for them?

They refused to fix the root causes of the problems in My country; True federalism, repeal of an archaic Land use act, Freedom of Information ,and a decentralized police service among others. Yet from OBJ to Goodluck, they keep Killing My Niger Delta people to prove they have balls while they give $Billions as "amnesty gifts" to their criminal oil bunkering partners.

One day the fed up goat will bite back!

^^ Comot Dia! you too dey fear!

There will be correct Brazilian opekes and Arab babes inside Special AC tents scattered all over Doha!

We have it on good authority, the laws will be relaxed for 30 days only!

There are correct Alfas and Sheiks on the case as we type, they are appealing to Moh'd(Peace be unto him) for awon Boyz!

Real madrid?

Money surely can't buy everything. . .

This Buffon ought to be sent back to jail. He's busy laughing over the rot he failed to fix after ruling Nigeria 3 times in 30 years. SMH at the Animal called OBJ.

IRAPADA:
It mean if u are crossing highway and someone start singing national athem u wil ve to stand stil on that highway

LOL

I can't fathom the thought process that led this idi.ot Osita to think it's sensible to pass a bill supporting human dignity( gunshot treatment) and in the same breath argue for a law to limit that same liberty and dignity.

So if I feel like taking a shytte while some yeye person is singing the National Anthem, I must stand, endure or poo for bodi?

Why are we so blessed with fools?

There are so many lies and .ic statements in that post but, I will just highlight this;

So because of that, they are all suffering from retroactive resentment and they have painted him ugly in the eyes of Nigerians and the youths of today; the Facebook youths, who do not research anymore; who didn’t read textbooks in the university, rather they read handouts.

Who do not research anymore?

As someone who remembers a part of IBB's tenure and how his regime presided over a rapid retrogression of Nigeria's education sector, I'm disgusted by this weak attempt to ridicule my generation. . . talk of a pot calling a kettle black.

IBB mortgaged my generation's future by diverting funds to his pockets plus those of his cronies, we are still struggling, still working hard to pay off that generational debt. Textbooks became gold in the 80s and 90s while Shylock lecturers had to resort to handouts. University Students whose parents could not afford the kind of education IBB gave to Aisha Babangida and her brothers had to make do with handouts. Decades after, this shameless attack Dog now wants to blame us for the terrible intellectual legacy IBB's illiterate government left us?

Sango fire your mouth!!

Kobojunkie:
While I agree with what you have above, the fact still is Federal Character is RULE OF LAW, and like someone already stated, the president, if unwilling to do away with it, needs to ABIDE BY IT.

Right, Unfortunately you and I know most of them are two faced liars who only abide when it suits them, hence the back and forth over silly Zoning rules. Abeg go enjoy your Turkey jare

BetaThings:
People are disparaging zoning because it pleases them now.

No sir! I condemn Zoning and federal character because it has never pleased me! it reduces choices and elevates ethnic differences above national unity. Zoning or Federal character is unpatriotic, it is lazy, it is silly, it is a quick fix that does not address fundamental issues. I find it repugnant!

Without zoning could Johnathan have ever become VP and President? If we abolish zoning, how will somebody from his village ever become president again?

Without Zoning, a young man from Otueke in Ogbia Local Government Area of Bayelsa state will have a fairer chance of becoming president. If we raise merit and reason above silly ethnic considerations then Ebele can be sure that his abilities will count more than his LGA. At least he will know that when he steps out to run for office in his country, the Stu.pid political dancing chair game we call zoning/federal character will not assign his dreams to a visionless less qualified candidate simply because Ogbia LGA time don pass.

By removing FC we force Ebele to bring his A game every time.  Federal character is dumb sir!

I am not swayed by the argument of zoning and federal character depriving us of the best candidates

It does, Scratch that! it has always deprived us and it will continue to!

1. we tend to zone political offices to the incumbent. So quality candidates are suppressed by the incumbent. On a good day, is Johnathan better than Utomi or Alaibe? How did people treat Johnathan 2 years ago. So he has just done a brain transplant since jan this year to become the next Einstein?

Exactly! now you see why Zoning is bad eh?. You actually put it better than I can, you can replace the word "incumbent" with "ethnic areas", "political zones" or any other divisive descriptors.

2. Each zone in Nigeria will have at least 20m people. That is more than the population of each of these countries - Sweden, Ireland, Isreal, Singapore, Netherlands, Urugay etc. Ghana is about 23m, yet they beat us all the time in soccer. Uruguay is even far less at 3.5m people and they beat Ghana at the last world cup. We don't need 150m to produce a good president. Each GPZ can produce a quality soccer team.

Exactly, you are now getting it! you are right, we do not need 150M people or 800 Local governments, 36 states or 6 Geo-zones to produce a president. We just need to produce one good president, a good governor, choose good senators and employ good competent civil servants i don't care if they are all from the same region as long as they are Nigerians and they can perform.

Obasanjo was President for 8 years, did he specifically change the fortune of the South west? for good or bad he mismanaged all regions equally. I do not care if we have a Gworo chewing Mallam(no offence) as the Governor of Ogun State, as long as He/She can grow the economy, build infrastructure, ensure transparency, provide security and invest in the Education of our children, I could care less about his ethnicity, he would have performed better than a Million Gbenga Daniels.

If somehow the South South people  are very, very  bright, who believes that the other GPZ will just allow them to produce the president forever. At least Nigerians still think in ethnic terms

No YOU think in ethnic terms, There is nothing wrong with having some allegiance and connection to your ethnic area, we are products of our environments and cultures, but such allegiances should not be unreasonable, it should not end up hurting us collectively and It should not impede the growth of a country we all claim to love or undermine it's unity. Else we can as well pack it up and split.

Federal character also ensures that each zone has a sense of belonging. Why do the Yewas in Ogun state clamouring to produce the next governor?

That's not true! From what I've experienced in my few years as a Nigerian, Federal Character ensures that each zone have a sense of belonging ONLY when someone from their zone is in office even when he's colluding with other thieves to bleed them dry and that is just retar.ded!

Beaf:
Abeg, free di man! What you see is the actual goods.
Dude, this is Jonathans house that was bombed when he was VP, there is nothing ostentatious about it, you can see how villagers could walk into his compound  freely. In fact it was also his only house and when his father died, newspapers actually reported him as being homeless, because he genuinely had no home.

https://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cQe1wUdfe5R8/610x.jpg

Eeyah why dem bomb the guy house now?  he no settle them?

koruji:
It goes like this. Nigeria's leaders tend to see themselves in the role of emperors instead of high level employees of the people - it is an ego problem. Of all the candidates so far, both of these guys seem to have a good perspective in this regard - that is unless their actions are helping the people it is of no use. I believe that unless any leader gets this right he will ultimately fail.

I know, our leaders reflect the prevailing culture in Nigeria though, Ageism(Gerontocracy) "Big-manism" "God-fatherism (all the Naija isms, you get the picture) whatever you call it, it's a culture that ignores basic principles of equality or egalitarianism. Most of us are guilty of that nonsense from our Churches/Mosques to our kitchens.

Koruji I do not share your enthusiasm about GEJ but, I can see why you might consider him a lesser evil, he has a calmer demeanor and he seems to care more about  maintaining a certain positive public persona. Beyond that, I can't see how he's different from his former boss Alams, with his large foreign entourage, spending N23Bils on Jets!!

I took the Benin Ore road recently sir! the Busiest business inter-state road corridor in Nigeria is still an eyesore and a death trap! 23BN on jets?!  Patience's corruption allegations, the dumb rice distribution, I can't even believe GEJ didn't participate in Alamieyeseigha's looting of Bayelsa but, that's just me. I refuse to suspend that much disbelief. So, yes he seems gentle, But I'm also a Nigerian, I've seen enough and as they say in obodo oyinbo, even if you put lipstick on a pig. . . .  

As for Ribadu and co, I'm not impressed either, however, I will be happy to see a very weak and less powerful PDP even if they win the presidency. Ribadu/ACN has work to do and They need to focus on becoming a strong opposition. They've wasted too much time already

I do not even want to talk about that "foam in the mouth" illiterate called Atiku, that thief will sell Nigeria to the highest bidder and quickly too!

^^ Koruji, I read it. I also read OBJ's so called clarifications and Osuntokun's rhetoric. You and I know these people are liars and care only about their own present profits. It's Politics. As you can read from my earlier post. I do not just detest Zoning, I also hate it's grandfather; Federal character

These same retards enjoyed zoning while they were appointed. They've always used Zoning to limit My peoples ability to choose their leaders based on merit and from a well represented pool of candidates, they are still doing it. PDP, ANPP, ACN and all the other silly opposition parties have never challenged the federal character principle or even zoning in court (I know court appointments are zoned also) This same zoning occurs during Senates elections and Legislative appointments, Gubernatorial election, State assembly elections, Commissioner appointments, ward elections etc. It is Practiced by all the parties, These same Fools probably allow zoning at their Children's PTA clubs.

It is disingenuous, Hypocritical and dishonest for them to keep releasing stupi.d press reports and interviews condemning and denying an act they practice everytime they conduct an election or appoint civil servants. These bunch of losers are not serious.

Unfortunately, our people are still too unenlightened to challenge them and counter their falsehood. I have no time for half hearted political shenanigans and My people should not encourage it.

OBJ, GEJ, Ribadu and the rest of them can deny Zoning till they get blue in the face but, until they start correcting the foundational defects that continues to tear our people and the polity apart, I will not take their statements seriously. They can all wrap their babanriga around their neck and commit seppuku. My people won't be foolish forever though, that I'm sure of.

marcdunu:
The PDP Zoning policy is only a selection method.

The Nigerian Constitution gives parties the right to elect, select or nominate any candidate of their choice.

If within the party's selection method they choose to include a power sharing formula or a pruning down mechanism . . .then I dont see how that tramples on anyone's fundamental human rights.

PDP is not saying anybody has lost their right to be voted for. They are only saying to prevent acrymony let have a system of power rotation that encourages fairness to all groups and ensures that at the end of electoral process people do not hit the streets engaging in ethnic fracas because folks of different ethnic groups or regions took part in election.

So the PDP Zoning formula is a selection method which majority of members of the agreed is how candidates should be chosen at different times.

It is a political decision which those who disagree with them can only leave the party.

I see your point. BUT

First, It shows there are too many things wrong with the Nigerian Constitution. The Federal Character law like Zoning, reads like an entitlement program that contradicts basic principles of equality and due process. So go figure, It's like an affirmative action recipe for disaster.

FC is one of the chief impediments to Nigerian Unity. It enhances and magnifies the differences we have. It essentially says that a Nigerian from say Kano cannot aspire beyond the allocated provisions for Kano state. It is a lazy, Dumb policy and the champions of this divisive and puerile principle are always the first to scream One Nigeria!

On Zoning; Why can't those who disagree with Zoning push to change the rules? It is laziness to jump ship everytime you disagree with people, We need politicians who can articulate their positions well, fight and influence those in their group to agree with them.

Zoning the presidency may be pragmatic for the PDP but it is a lazy policy/strategy because it limits the candidate pool and relegates merit to the background. But lets not kid ourselves, all Nigerian parties as far as I know practice Zoning, I'm aware that the AC/ACN as progressive as they claim do practice zoning down to the local Ward levels.

Also, IMO the Pro-Zoning side of the PDP have a stronger moral argument to make on this issue as I do not buy the OBJ camp's explanation that Zoning was not part of the PDP Constitution/Arrangement. They enjoyed the arrangement when they were elected and they are yet to take a case to court to challenge the constitutionality of that arrangement -which goes down to how Senators, Governors, Commissioners and even Ward candidates are chosen.

These I.D.IOTS they need to act based on their stated beliefs and quit playing bold-face games with gullible Nigerians.

Kobojunkie:
I apologize, I actually believed the responses were from the same person.

That's fine, I kinda see the similarities too.

Kobojunkie:
Dude, stop trying to read my mind and focus on what I am saying instead. I told you that the word ZONING itself sort of turns your side of this on its head. I am not pro/anti Zoning. I am more focused on how you continue to choose to interpret this, using the constitution to back up your claims.

Zoning is NOT unconstitutional. And having a candidate not contest(or not considered) when the ticket is zoned to a region outside of his/he does not belong to is NOT unconstitutional. The constitution already makes provision for this.

It is a forum -- rather than go around trying to figure out what is in people's heads, it makes sense to instead focus on understanding the message in what is posted please. You are doing a terrible job trying to read my mind there. I would suggest you instead read my posts and respond appropriately please.

I think you confused me with Koruji here lady, I'm Kilode?! go back and re read my post I was not the one having that Zoning argument with you.

Yes!

Ok, I wish so too, I'm just concerned about the block voting our people tend to do at election time especially when "Big men" endorse a candidate for them. . .

I will like to see some stronger endorsements for Buhari before I can be convinced, as for Ribadu, frankly he has a lot of grassroot work to do. It will be best if ACN can focus their resources on niche states with more progressive populations, win more governorship and senate seats and work their as* off in the next 4 years.

Kobojunkie:
Instead of concerning yourself with figuring out what they are thinking, why not instead focus on what they are saying. An PDP Atiku selection will work in helping removing PDP from power. So many have said that over and over to this point. I am not certain what part of that you do not understand. The only way your Tinubu/Ribadu club can have a chance to play is if the PDP candidate is a weak one.

I'm not a die hard Ribadu fan. . . I'm more concerned about having a less powerful PDP with a much stronger opposition party than we currently have. I want more competition, so the prospect of a weakened PDP excites me greatly and I will like those who called themselves "progressives" to do more work and get the people excited and fired up. That is what I was driving at.

BTW, You don't seem to have a problem with my opinion as you basically repeated why I just expressed. but your tone suggests you have a problem with me expressing an opinion because somebody might have already said it. This is a forum Kobojunkie, let people express themselves, you don't have to attack every post.

BTW, do you really think that an Atiku with a strong Northern + Ekwueme/Ojukwu support can be considered a weak(as in not strong enough to win) candidate in a face off with Ribadu or Buhari?