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dayokanu:
Bi isu ba parada a di iyan, Bi agbado ba parada a di eko, Bi ere ba parada a di akara bibo parada o di ekuru

Bi Gaari ba parada a di eba

DK e ku ai gbagbe ojo, o ku laakaye!

jp philips:
Where did ''boomerang'' or whatever get their figures from? Nigeria? government that cant even give account of its work force
Abi NNPC/petroleum ministry/finance ministry confused over oil export.
Now if Nigeria cant give a proper account, where did ''Boomerang'' get its figures from?

I think "boomerang" and all the rest of them got their figures from the World Bank and other experts like them. Like I said earlier on the thread I really see little to celebrate in the Africa to Africa comparison, we are all lagging behind the rest of the world but that does not change the fact that The Nigerian Economy is one of the biggest in Sub-Saharan Africa.

World bank still called it second biggest few weeks ago. Check the last paragraph:

http://blogs.worldbank.org/prospects/category/tags/nigeria

RIP Alhaji Agba

Those lucky aljaana Angels will be "rocking" tonight

Good analysis PhysicsQED.

Same could be said about Congo-DRC and the historical Kongo empire with similar climate and the attendant large population.

I often wonder how much Africa would have developed without colonial incursion, with these empires able to evolve as naturally as possible into countries and nations on African terms. Anyway that is gone now it's up to us to get it right.

strangerf:
I think the census figures is right on the money

And there is about 1 million Nigerians in the US, legally residing there that are paying taxes, and about 3.5 mill in the UK, which were not counted. And there are numerous Nigerians all over the world, from China to India to Australia who were not counted as well. So I think the census figure might not be far from the real value, and any error/inflation or deflation is prolly within the SEM.

So the whole fertile ground explanation plus frequent boinking might actually explain it better.

I think it's time I put my name across for Nobel Prize Nomination - Economics prize j/k

I'm sure there are other controlling factors, but I'm just curious about the staple food sufficiency I've noticed in Nigeria and its possible relation to our large population

@ Zim Ok, I can see it's an arid crop. I'm still worried about how many staple varieties you have or can make out of the Finger Millet.

I think food security is a major factor in population growth and the varieties of local staples we have plus the fertile tropical weather might be the reason for the huge population difference between Nigeria/West Africa/Congo and other African sub-regions

Do the the whities in Zim eat it? or only You guys eat it? (I'm assuming you are black)

strangerf:
Open borders: Not necessarily, there are other African countries with open borders as well. Same with South American countries

Large Family Size: Again not quite unique to Nigeria. Also, by that reasoning population growth should be on the decline ( Like in Russia) since much of southern and part of northern Nigeria now have reduced family size secondary to improved health care, education, family planning, and more exposure to western lifestyle; on the contrary, population growth is rising and actual population number is going up as well.

Lack of accurate census figures: This answers the question somewhat, but not satisfactorily.

I don't trust the population figures myself, but I think it might not be too far from the 140M mark because the world Bank estimates goes far back into the 60s and they are now around that ball park figure. I'm wary of the World Bank too.

Can't wait for google to just do the counting from the sky   at least they do no evil

ZIM DRILL:
he old thought smart to make people out zimbabwe believe that he is a good leader

one minute he blast the western saying he doesnt need the waste to help zimbabwe

then next he says he is open to talk to them  he is just crazy

I agree he is getting crazy but, he already carried the weight of his people for a whole generation. Your people might need to help him leave the stage. I just hope the MDC and Tsvangirai and co are better alternatives.

BTW, what are the staples in Zimbabwe? I mean the staples you ate before the Europeans came?

@ Zim Drill, It's fine, I saw "A" but you've clarified, I get your point.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=569870.msg7352100#msg7352100 date=1292551206]But a lot dont have enough.[/quote]Yes and that is where our "Balloning" population comes into play, comparatively, we are doing well with local food security.

But I worry though. We spend a lot trying to maintain other comforts; Security, Transportation, Education e.t.c and is takes from the food sufficiency.

You are yet to pound my Iyan but, I'mma let you be this year  

ZIM DRILL:
mugabe made the wrong move to touch commercial farms that where contributing much to the economy before he had better producing commercial black farm to replace the whites ones

now those black farmer are struggling to farms commercial they dont have money to buy simple treated seeds worse fertilizer

Right. It's a real shame, I liked Mugabe but. I think age and the cunny antics of the West got to him. Which is one reason why I would always blame him for not getting able and well groomed successors to continue the struggle.

I really hope he will get it right for the sake of My Zimbabwean Brothers and Sisters.

ZIM DRILL:
come on man


yes i said A GAINT which is the same with THE GAINT

if i had said ONE OF THE GAINTS then nigeria would fit in

Don't let me start doubting your Zimbabwe High literacy claims.

A is not the same as THE.

The Moon
A star

A is indefinite or general
The is definite or particular

South Africa is THE giant
Nigeria is A giant.

C'mon now.

ZIM DRILL:
you might be right but let me ask

aint garri, yam indigineous to nigeria  which might be reason why it is easy to farm

therefore anyone have it

Yes they are indigenous to Nigeria and probably to some other countries as well and that is my point. MOST of our staples are indigenous to Nigeria. We tend to eat what we grow. I will argue that it counts for something when you compare us to countries that

1. Eat imported crops more that local ones.

2. Grow crops that are NOT indigenous to their environment or climate, hence they become more susceptible to environmental challenges and the dictates of the global food market.

ZIM DRILL:
pliz just swallow the pride

we aint looking for who has potential

we are just looking at who is number one at the present -- period

Take is easy My Zim Sister, there is no pride to swallow here, I don't do silly African rivalry. Abi na Brother you be?

You said "A giant" not "The" Giant  I replied you based in that pronouncement, get it?

ZIM DRILL:
everyone who did geography know that nigeria is the most populous country in africa and most nigeria confuse that with being a gaint of africa economically

My arm chair analysis. Warning: Not based on hard research

I think Nigeria is heavily populated because we live in one of the most fertile regions in Africa, I believe people tend to bunk a lot when they have enough to eat.

We grow most of our staples outside rice. Despite the poor Agro-economy, we hardly have Garri scarcity, Yam scarcity and our beef is mostly locally sourced, same for the veggies. I bet there are many other indices and factors, but from my arm-chair analysis I believe food and climate is a major reason.

Compared to the growth rates we have in other African regions, West Africa seems to be doing well with food self-sufficiency, fewer drought years than other regions

NOTE: I'm not speaking about large scale commercial farming, Zimbabwe got that before Mugabe and his whities fought.

I'm speaking primarily about local staple food production and a climate that supports small scale farming with little irrigation and fertilizer needs.

In short, we grow most what we eat! I wish I can say that for the other stuffs we use.

ZIM DRILL:
everyone who did geography know that nigeria is the most populous country in africa and most nigeria confuse that with being a gaint of africa economically

Confuse? Nah! true, we are all lagging in Africa economically but, Nigeria being "a giant of Africa" economically is not far from the truth at all.

Second largest Economy in Africa; and we didn't say that

Bloomberg did

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=azkAZY0Yo3rE

The Economist did in Sept, check second paragraph;

http://www.economist.com/node/13278805

http://www.economist.com/node/17043674?story_id=17043674&fsrc=rss

Business week did

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-06/sub-saharan-africa-growth-forecast-cut-to-5-5-by-imf.html

Even the World Bank said it, but that is not the issue though. I would prefer we are all competing favourably with Europe, Asia and North America rather than these "You all try to think you are the best back and forth we constantly do over nothing really.

^ that will be sad.

texazzpete:
Yes. Download SoundHound.
I use the iPhone client and it's awesome. IDs all songs (naturally, Nigerian songs need not apply), you can even ID songs you hum or sing into the microphone.
The Android client should have the same functionality, and it's probably the best of its kind.

I agree. Soundhound works like a charm.

PhysicsQED:
And Larry Summers can choke on a cli.t That guy is a nuisance. The same guy saying first world countries should dump their pollution in Africa and you're quoting him? Anyways, more on Summers:

It's almost impossible to believe some of the stuff that comes out of Larry Summers mouth sometimes. That guy is a mole -a closet conservative mole- on the left of the ideological spectrum.

I can't wait to read what objective presidential historians will say about his role in the first two years of the Obama Administration.

BTW, it's funny how West calls everybody "brother"

Dora has turned patronising into an art, she needs a patent abi na NAFDAC number ASAP!

As I take this step, I solicit for your prayers and other forms of support. I am making this request because you are my people and my immediate constituency.

Your immediate constituency? Government ministers? Really?!!

Yes, my colleagues in the pharmaceutical industry are still my people but I have virtually exhausted my goodwill with them in the service of our dear Country, especially in support of the Re-branding Nigeria project. Many drug manufacturing companies spent over N10 million for the Re-branding Nigeria materials because they desperately wanted me to succeed.

WTH!! Private Pharmaceutical companies spending millions on the public project of a former regulator?

Therefore, it is you and only you that I can now run to for support. Please, I plead with each and everyone of you to sow a seed to my political career, you will never regret it

I would've been surprised if that patronising church language did not feature somewhere. SMH

In the words of President Jonathan, I will never let you down. Yes, I will be in the senate by the grace of God for my constituency and for the nation but you can be sure that I will also be there for you.

For Who? council members? is this woman using expired NAFDAC drugs?!!

Mr. President, I will never forget the encouragement you gave me through phone calls, text messages, e.t.c. when I was in NAFDAC during that fight for life. Mr. Vice President, you always call me your sister, please continue to call me your sister.

Oh boy! she can't help herself can she? my stomach o!

I pray that this Council succeeds to the end and that many of you continue as Council members after May 2011.

Damn! I need original Pepcid or Tums, my Stomach is churning.

R.I.P Pa Enahoro

You proved politics isn't all about Billion dollar swiss accounts and Manhattan apartments.

africanist:
@dayokanu Most of these guys are in the field of Science and Engineering not African culture and Dance

What is wrong with studying African culture? Afterall, science and technology are products of culture! For your info, Africa is politically independent today courtesy of the field of humanities and social sciences!! Science is good but cannot exist without culture. Today,  Americans and Europeans are all over Africa researching on African culture while, Africans don't even value themselves and continue on the path of destruction in form of failed western-type political system,and technological transfer. Culture is the basis of any meaningful technological innovation. What are the contributions of all these (diaspora) scientists to Nigerian development? It is obvious, their knowledge can only be productive within the western cultural system. The African cultural system is rather more complex.

I agree with most of the sentiments you expressed.

Although we really need to focus on Science and Technology so we can compete better, I will argue that many of our earlier giants, especially those whose work and exploits gave strength and confidence to the scholars of today were Writers, Philosophers and Cultural/Social Science geniuses.

Names like Soyinka, Achebe, Irele, Bodunrin and the Late Professor John Ogbu of Berkeley (who wrote the seminal study debunking the false assertion that Blacks have a lower IQ) may be dying out but new ones are sure springing up.

These social scientists and philosophers need to be appreciated too. They may be poor, but their works are the true foundations we need to build our Society on.

A society without an homegrown philosophy or strong social scientists in my opinion is just standing on weak foundations. .

Dr. Olúfémi Táíwò Professor of Philosophy Formerly Associate Professor at Loyola University, Chicago, and Postdoctoral Fellow at the Carter G. Woodson Institute for Afro-American and African Studies at the University of Virginia, Currently Professor of Philosophy at Seattle University in. He is an editor of the Journal on African Philosophy. He is advisor for the National Society of Black Engineers.

NKIRU NZEGWU

Ph.D., University of Ottawa, Philosophy (Aesthetics).
1984 M.A., University of Ife, Nigeria, Philosophy (Aesthetics).
1976 B.A., University of Ife, Nigeria, Honors in Fine Arts.

Current Status: Professor, tenured, Department of Africana Studies and Professor of Philosophy, Interpretation and Culture,

Founder of africaresource.com 1999-
A multi-purpose, content-based, educational web site serving over 10 million users from over 90countries (in North America, Europe, Asia, Australia, South and Central America, Middle East, the Caribbean, & Africa) with 110,000+ users a week.

Recognized by PBS as the Best of the Web

 
SEGUN GBADEGESIN Chair Philosophy at Howard University
Professor of Philosophy
Research interests: Social and Political Philosophy, Ethics, African Philosophy, Philosophy of Culture, Bioethics.

and of course

Jacob Olupona Harvard Professor of African Religious Traditions, with a joint appointment as Professor of African and African American Studies in the Faculty of Arts and Sciences

BA, University of Nigeria
MA, PhD, Boston University

Plus Toyin Falola of UT Austin and many others; some already mentioned here.

I doubt these people know how much they are stealing, they are simply not that good at anything, even calculating their loot.

Their incompetence is worse than their corruption.

Our leaders have been callous and grossly insensitive for far too long . They should take a lesson from history to see how revolutions starts and snowballs

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They should not take a lesson, it will be forced down their throat.

You cannot fool all of the people all of the time. Goats do bite hard when pushed to the wall.

^^ yea it's Jos and not only in European or Expatriate quarters.

Many locals have fireplaces in their homes too.  I just wish they will stop the hate and appreciate that beautiful state and city. It's a shame really.

Rooney na MIUMIU

Joor, Shey Gayners le score goal ni Old Trafford? Joor. . .

Park Ji-Sung - Arsene WegnerWanker's worst Nightmare and he came through!!

Dream on Gayners!! HAHAHAHAHA

AlfaPrime:
@Kobo,
I fully share your passion for human rights protection, rule of law in Naija, etc. But truth be told, it's always easier for you to sit in the comfort of the American free society and pontificate about how he should have been captured and made to spill the beans. Do you feel the pains of those who lost their lives, properties and loved ones to this man's mayhem? Did you have to run like a refugee from a home you've known for years due to this miscreant's evil deeds? Have U known the bloodcurdling chill of sleeping and waking with the sound of gun shots richocheting in your ears? Can we be more righteous than the ordinary Abians who took to the streets in jubilation upon the news of his death?

I understand the passion and sentiments in your post and those of others who expressed similar opinions.

BUT, Kobojunkie is on the money with this one.

We may never know the real truth behind the events that lead to Osisiwhatever's death but, I believe justice would've been better served and the  "pain, fears and sufferings" of the people of Abia especially those who lost loved ones, would have been better assuaged if we knew the real backers of this killer or get to interrogate him and investigate his confessions.

There are good reasons for the kind of caution expressed by Kobojunkie. Criminal justice is not all about shoot and kill.

How did he get his ammunition?

Who are his patrons? Was he working with some other partners?

Where are the rest of his men?

How many people did he kill?

What is the structure of his organisation like?

How much money did he collect? can we trace the funds?

Did he carry out all the kidnappings we've seen in the last one year or do we need to look for some other independent groups?

These and many more are the questions that should be asked and answered by a serious criminal justice system, especially one that is responsible for the safety and security of 150million people.

Killing this one Maggot should not be an end. Capturing him alive could have helped us arrive at the root of his activities and prevent more Osisis. I don't think killing him on sight did that or will do that.

From the accounts of Slap1 and other self identified witnesses, I do not believe the army did enough to help our fears. Killing this man is not enough. We need to get to the root of his terror. I'm not convinced we got the answers we needed.

If I live in Aba, I will still be worried and afraid.

Good job Oyinda.!

@joysit, I think Oyinda. said it all.

Also, Nigeria did produce considerable amounts of those Minerals especially Coal in the eastern region and Tin/iron ore in the Jos plateau region. The Jos cold weather attracted many european expatriate mining workers before we found crude oil and abandoned other mineral mining.

You can also check the site below to see examples of people living in beautiful cold Jos, I'm not certain it snows but I believe it gets very cold enough for them to have fireplaces

Finally, like Oyinda said, you don't need anyone telling you about your country. You are sure doing well by yourself. I bet they don't have sunshine like we do.

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[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=567355.msg7326109#msg7326109 date=1292250115]Let's put politics aside.Culturally in yorubaland,an adult is always right.[/quote]I thought Fayose is an adult too. hmm I may be wrong though.

He said the action of his elder brother was condemnable, adding that the family decided to apologise to set the record straight that members of the family did not support him on that particular incident.

“I am here to react to the face-off between my brother, Ayo and Chief Obasanjo. I think my brother went too far. We thought we should apologise, that is why I am here to apologise on behalf of the family that we are sorry for the utterances of my brother against Obasanjo,” he said.

I thought OBJ called their "son" a B.tard.

I guess In the Fayose family, Politics is thicker than Blood.