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Mehn, Ciroma is one scary looking dude.

fstranger3:
I am really disappointed in Flav, WTF?


Anyhooo, why is Bernie Madoff silent, why? Why?

Well, what we heard was that Bernie Madoff bet some of his stolen money on Pastor Chris Okotie winning the election.

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Long version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7FaBTLbWZw[/quote]HAHAHA why is that guy apologizing for him? Drogba is angry because they rig elections in his country and we don't.

But really, why is Michael Essien silent? Ghana people and their bad belle for Nigeria sef

fstranger3:
Why is Mark Zuckerberg silent?

Zuckerberg makes money from Riots and Revolutions, bad guy

But Flavor Flav disappointed me sha, why remain silent? makes no sense really.

Summers is bad belle pesin

I suspect Dalai Lama is bad belle pesin too, why the sudden silence? Why?

fstranger3:
^^^

Why is[b][size=18pt] Snooki [/size][/b] silent?

LMAO "The Situation" is silent too, why? that guy talks about everything shey?

fstranger3:
^^^^STFU

Why is Mourinho silent?

I can't believe Drogba will not say something about this our election

Is he jealous because Ivory Coast can't do Free/Fair election?

agabaI23:
Buhari has struck a deal with Ciroma, Atiku and IBB et al. Haven't you heard all you BBer's that your maigaskya is dealing with crooks?


Listen to this
AN APPEAL TO NIGERIANS

GOODLUCK JONATHAN lost support from (king-makers) Ciroma, IBB, Atiku and their fellow corrupt men because he refused to signed an agreement on who becomes Nigeria's President in 2015. GEJ said: "What I'm not comfortable with is the rationale behind 15 of us sitting here and deciding who becomes president in 2015. I will want Nigerians to choose their president in 2015".

Even when we were not there GEJ is still fighting for a free and fair process. He disappointed OBJ and BANKOLE because of his transparency and goodwill towards Nigeria.

Now, Buhari has been begging the same Ciroma, IBB, Atiku, Tinubu and Mohammed Abacha for help to win. He even promised to make Ribadu president in 2015 if he steps down for him. They are already forcing Fake Bakare to sign his resignation letter. Less than 10 men appointing 2015 president; is this not corruption in the highest order?

Nigerians, come out enmass and call your neighbors on Saturday so that we can kill this evil cabal forever. Vote GOODLUCK JONATHAN

The Agaba propaganda company is well and alive today.

Your hustle pass Molue conductor own

I'm really worried about Osama bin ladin's silence. why?

Why is Becomrich silent?

^I was just wondering why Puff Daddy is silent too. why?

Why is Ghaddafi silent?

rasputinn:
Since all your plots have failed,I humbly advice y'all to;


that's my altest effort to the BB/BT team

oh BT means Buhari/Tinubu

Good Advice NOT

We will vote Buhari Bakare and we urge you to do the same. But whoever wins we expect him to be a president to all. Our people are more aware now and good dissent is vital in a democracy.

No politician should get 100%, this is Naija not Libya or Equitorial Guinea.

We wish Goodluck well, I know you wish Buhari well too, hopefully you will put ya hand on that PEN  

This thread should be on the front page.

@stranger, I mean disagreements over personalities and other less enduring things are easy to get caught up in, that is life.

Human beings are creatures of passion. We even fight "wars" over booti, parking space and other silly stuff. If you look at history you will see plenty examples, wars over stools, flags and other stvpid stuff.

Other societies experience it too, we are not unique in that. Our inability to build systems and enshrine an idea based polity just makes it more difficult to look at the big picture, but we can blame a lot of things for that, it will be out of the scope of this thread though.

As per GEJ and Buhari, let's not deceive ourselves, the people are the passionate ones not politicians, at least so far. It is ok to support politicians because you want them to do A or B but to see them as infallible is just plain silly.

fstranger3:
The division is around personalities, not around ideas.

The division is superficial, and it will not last.

This is not a Liberal Vs Conservative kind of division, it is not a class/social status division. It is a Buhari Vs GEJ division, both have no original ideas of their own. There are no Buharists school of thought, neither do we we have GEJist nor Ribadu-ists.

None of them has an Economic agenda in the mold of great minds like Milton

So they wont last, personalities fail eventuality since no one is infallible.

Exactly, but unfortunately a lot of less discerning folks tend to get stuck on divisions/fights over ephemeral, less enduring things like personalities and immediate gratification.

It is easy to get caught up in those disagreements, So we often need to calm down and force ourselves to look at the big picture, that is the point in here.

naijababe:
I beg to differ brotha, I actually believe that a candidate of majority acceptance will win and will definitely put the burden on Goodluck because he's presently our CIC (to ensure a free andfair election).
As  for the opposition role, I certainly do not think they went too far, every single one of our candidates has employed the use of spin (for want of a better word).

If you really believe that the portrayal of GEJ cannot be set aside, then you certainly need to be respectfully reminded that in politics afterall there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests.
@ Post, I certainly do not think it's war, whoever wins will my support as a Nigerian  

That is the point. And yes I agree with you. The words in bold captures the essence of the thread.

^^ I don't think the burden was placed on goodluck or any particular person, as a matter of fact, the burden is on ALL of us.

It is ok to see divisions in an election atmosphere, I expect no one to set criticism aside even after the elections, but I expect an acceptance of a fair result, I'm not looking for 100% perfection. This is a democracy after all. That is the point of my post.

I don't know why they can't agree on an alliance, but as long as we get a fair election, not the rigging of last week, we should just let the people decide. Personally I think Nigeria needs radical changes that Buhari will bring. But their inability to form an alliance should be blamed on both sides.

Let us keep working on getting people to recognize the choices they have. Maybe the very close election results that might come out on Saturday will make everybody humble and ally at the end.

I'm definitely proud of Young Nigerians who've taken it upon themselves to own this process by campaigning, collaborating and contributing with unprecedented passion and amazing resolve.

I have great hope for Nigeria with some of the amazing people on this thread as comerades. It is humbling and heartwarming indeed.

It is telling to see how unpopular this thread has been since Jarus posted it on April 6, before the NASS elections. I think it's time to revisit it again.

This is not war, no matter who wins this election, GEJ, Buhari or Ribadu. I think Nigerians have done good for themselves, the level of passion displayed on and offline by those with the time and resource to engage in this process has been unprecedented. Like I mentioned earlier last week, whoever wins this election will have a tough job, a more demanding job than previous leaders and a more aware electorate to deal with.

This can only be good for Nigeria and Nigerians. We are not at war and we shouldn't be but we've displayed unbelievable interest and passion spurred by information Technology explosion and a younger, more aware electorate.

Let us resolve to support the winner and keep holding them accountable. Although I support Buhari in the absence of a Ribadu alliance. BUT if GEJ wins in a free and fair election, I will pour a glass of palmwine and drink to his health and good judgement on behalf of us and our coming generation.

I have great hope for Nigeria as long as we maintain this same level of political involvement.

Congratulations to Presidents Goodluck Jonathan-Muhammadu Buhari-Nuhu Ribadu

Congratulations to My Naija people.

Alj Uche:


i have never seen you use an angry emotion icon before

I am against Tinubu as well, ACN and CPC is all about development not sharing of position and power

Alhaji no mind these people jare, I had to shakara them small

I'm not against Tinubu, although I'm not a fan of his heavy handed politics. But i understand Nigerian politics is a jungle situation. That should not mean that a good alliance plan should pivot on Tinubu's VP request, What the hell does he want to do with central VP and minister positions? The same mistake Bola Ige made.

If he was negotiating for state police and say immediate take off grant for the Olokola project or increased funding for specific initiatives, I will even understand a bit. VP? Fola Adeola or Bakare as VP is ok IMO. just stick to developing your region and pushing progressive initiatives across Nigeria.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=645300.msg8114238#msg8114238 date=1302654218]TInubu's role is not as a political officeholder. That is not how he should serve the nation's interests. If he is somehow smuggled into VP, I become against the alliance.
I am in support of most of those ideas.[/quote]I agree with you in principle, if this alliance talk is just about sharing positions and making Tinubu VP, I'm totally against that kind of small mindedness.

what happened to ideas?

I don't know the details though.

Beaf:
You are just burying your head in the ground out of sentiment. Buhari and IBB have been friends since 2005 (crosscheck with google). I wonder why you guys can decide to live a myth with your eyes wide open?
Find out for yourself who gave Buhari space for his Minna rally when the PDP govt shut him out. Find out for yourself that Abba Ruma, Tanimu Yakubu and Aliero have been in charge of transport and hire of almajiri's for Buhari's campaigns. GEJ held meetings with those guys for the sake of peace and to decimate their ranks, on the other hand, they are fully in charge of "anti-corruption" Buhari's campaign strategy. The cabal, from Turai down, left PDP for CPC, I wonder why?

Forget about sentiments. IBB is in PDP, same with Atiku who is a known political cross carpeter, they will make deals with anybody.

BUT, the deal we know for sure is their long term PDP alliance, they still contested with GEJ a few weeks back in the same party.

Yes ,we sometimes see these people together, they were in the military together, but if we are to stick with what we know about their politics since they retired, It will be disingenuous to align IBB and Atiku with Buhari.

Is IBB in CPC? NO! I stand corrected, I may be wrong, but I don't think he was ever in ANPP with Buhari.

Atiku ?  no

Buhari ran campaigns against these people and their PDP allies since 1999. They are all still card carrying members of the PDP.

It it unfair for you to now throw them to the Buhari camp when GEJ is clearly still meeting and negotiating with IBB, ATIKU and Ciroma as you admitted

I like how we are both rejecting these long term PDP idio/ts like HIV though.

Atiku, IBB and Ciroma belongs to the old school PDP pro-estalishment camp that GEJ represents, let's not pass them to Buhari now that we know they are toxic.

Turai's daugher contested Saturday and lost on the PDP ticket, but you keep pushing these people to the Buhari side.

Beaf:
Yeah, Buhari will fight corruption with his chief strategists as IBB and Atiku, who by coincidence happen to be top oil bunkerers. .

Bros, I don't even think that IBB and Atiku wants Buhari in power.  

If you are talking about the reported meetings, then that is just funny, IBB and Atiku are PDP, GEJ already had several meetings with them, he ran with them and is probably drinking tea with those guys as we type.

They are establishment PDP, pro corruption, pro status quo guys, let's not get carried away, they will probably run to Seme border if Buhari wins

Beaf:
It shows the determination is real, we ain't playing.
If GEJ is perceived to be schemed out through ethnic bigotry, real enmities will result and the SS will pull out. No two ways.
It will be the final spitting on our heads that the majority groups would have done, just so they can steal from underneath us.

What I really wish to happen though, is for the alliance to go forward. Because, will GEJ still roundly trounce all commers. It it will be an election of the oppressed vs the oppressors, with the SE and all minorities across the country on one side. Victory will be sweeter.

Beaf this is not an ethnic majority versus ethnic minority political struggle. I agree it is an oppressed versus oppressor battle.

Let us agree that Buhari offers a better hope for justice for we the oppressed. PDP will keep on ra/p/ing our people. . .

efisher:
The only reasonable carrot Buhari can dangle for SS is resource control in the order of 50%. Nothing less will get them committed

Good one bro! My brother, I'm actually hoping for better than 50% for our resource states, they more than deserve it.

With a Buhari government bent on ensuring fair play reducing corruption and removing immunity for these looters, Na to dey rejoice and dance from Ilaje-land to Bonny.

Let us look on the positive side, GEJ has ran a tough campaign but it is time to rescue ALL of our people. Atiku, Anenih, OBJ, IBB, Ibori dem dem will be the losers.

Let these young progressives -Ribadu, Adeola, Utomi e.t.c- work with Papa Buhari to give us a Nigeria we can be proud of. It is for our own good, ALL or us.

Deal?

Oya, remove Goodluck from your signature and put BUHARI 2011


It's still a rumor though.

Beaf:
That is exactly why I am boldly stating that the SS will not tolerate it and real enmity will sprout. 9ja go just enter anoda essenco period.
However, it really wouldn't matter if they ally in a thousand and one ways, GEJ is gonna sweep it. He'll get the majority of SW, SS, SE, Middle Belt and split the core-Northern vote. A landslide, regardless.

Beaf:
You actually think the SS would tolerate a Buhari presidency? You got jokes.

I've heard people offer the same fear-mongering opinion on ground. I know some people actaully fear that.

Let's not allow politicians turn our people into target practice, this is Nigeria not Somalia. We negotiate.

Buhari will do South South well and give them their resource while preventing their governors from looting them dry. No immunity for looters.

South South people are not unreasonable, let's stop listening to warlords

jason123:
I am very unhappy with this news because it proves two things:
1) It shows that the north still has this born to rule mentality. I mean, did Falae step down for OBJ Why do the north always step down for each other just so they do not split the Northern vote?! The tribalism and regional sentiment in this country is just appalling!!!
2) Is this the alliance of ACN and CPC I do not want ACN to join up with CPC because it will guarantee a win which means the SS and SE will be relegated and that will be unfair. Instead, they should stay apart and let the best person win.

BTW, these northern people can be tribalistic attimes .

Calm down. it is just Nairaland rumor for now, no confirmation yet.

Besides, in an atmosphere of justice -with a Buhari Presidency- NO-ONE will be relegated.

SS might actually get to keep most of their resources with a weak center, It's a WIN-WIN situation for everybody.

It is still Nairaland rumor though

Let us calm down though, this is not confirmed yet, we all know this is crazy season.

Let us calm down

Lagosboy:
Ministerial slots and SGF might have been on the table. Maybe Bakare might make some sacrifices as well only God knows the deal but things will become clearer.

SW are enlightened and people could be told to vote CPC but votes in Benue, Anambra, Edo state, Adamawa is what i am worried about. The rural areas in the SW might be a factor as well

Don't listen to these people. if the news is true, it seem it is;

Fola Adeola turned a little known bank into a financial behemoth in record time, Tinubu did same with ACN and a totally unknown Fashola.

Our people are not dum/b, they know the value of a PEN, they can put the BROOM down and pick the PEN up in record time.  

I feel sorry for those supporting PDP, that nest of killers.

It is now up to YOU I mean YOU to vote and be ready to defend your vote.

The time has come to rescue Nigeria from the hands of the military-politician usurpers holding us to ransom.

Vote for Buhari and stand-by to defend his mandate for the sake of our children!

I'm hearing news too. . . we'll wait for official word.

Now Buhari has my full attention