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Maximus69:
There you go lying publicly as if you're chatting with babies!
My friend, it's obvious you don't WANT IT so far it's going to demand that you make some changes!
That's ATHEISM for you!

God said "marry only in the Lord" ~ go for a partner that is ready to make changes as in sacrifices so that things can work out fine!

Amongst those worshiping God, there are pretenders who will hide their true identity to marry a good man or woman, so how do you prevent ending up with them?

You take your time to study God's word diligently and take advice from worshippers of God who have succeeded in the field. They'll help you with counsels on how to make things work out.

But you're not ready for all these because IT WILL DEMAND THAT YOU MAKE SACRIFICES AND LOT OF CHANGES, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THAT!

So stop deceiving yourself here, you're chatting with adults NOT kids!

What is wrong with u. Who doesnt want a happy life. But happiness is subjective. What makes one happy might not make another so.

Are you telling me every person who has divorced their spouse was not godly? Or as you say, marry in the lord? Now u are getting arrogant and extremely naive. I pray you have a happy marriage, not just a long one but a happy one. I say happy because a long marriage doesnt make it a happy one. Today's woman is soo empowered that they will not tolerate infidelity or any other nonsense like before. They will leave you. Just cause our fore fathers had long marriages didnt mean they were happy ones. Did you say you have a perfect marriage? How naive of u. Maybe i am talking to a child here.

Even Abraham did not have a perfect marriage. Sarah was always going to have that feeling of betrayal from abraham, till she died. Every marriage has their ups and downs. None is perfect. Be serious, admit to ur shortcomings and prepare yourself for any hurdle. And even then, you might still fall. Such is life. You are no better than anyone my brother. Time you realise that time you can better prepare. Knowing your weakness allows you to fix things.

Acrobatics01:
Hi Kimco, you need to think beyond yourself.

My brother, I promise you there is nothing that would make me happier than to have the perfect marriage. But since im not the only one in the marriage i cannot promise that. Also since since i cannot predict how much i can change over time(we all do) i cannot promise that. What if your wife suddenly stops trying to look good, or im swayed by a younger lady who makes me feel like a young man again or my wife cheats on me because she says im not into her anymore etc. Its not easy to jux sit back and claim u will be diff because you guys are not living in a vacuum with jux each other.

TemmyT002:
Hmmm

In my district alone, marriages collapse heavily (marriage dept) its not happily ever after. And most of these couples are religious. So what is happening? Some try their hardest still they cant cope. So you try your best and hope that all works out. Try your best to make things work, but sometyms the other party isnt trying. Things change over tym. You myt think yourself some romeo now, but talk back to me after 30years of marriage.

Maximus69:
Intelligent creatures talk, chat, communicate to gain insight Sir.
It's not just to argue in support of uncertainty when someone is presenting a solution to a problem.
We are humans NOT beasts!

Unintelligent creatures swallow everything they are fed. Im not here to argue with u. Everything i say to u i truly know to be right. If from frustration you claim im jux here to argue with u just lidat that then i suggest u drop down ur high horse. I asked questions, u try to answer, i dont agree becos logically it doesnt add up and now you r frustrated. Don't be....see things from my point of view as well. Just like you think you want to mke me see the light, i too yearn to achieve that with you. You are not the only one trying to enlighten.

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmmm, the king in question did not just WANT the added years Sir, he NEEDED it to correct his blunders and set things right before his death, in order for his own sons not to fall into the same pit. So he NEEDED more time!

The king didnt need the time otherwise God would have given it to him without him protesting for it. He had all the time to set his house in order but just when he was about to die he says to almighty Yahweh, "i require more time".
And Yahweh gives it to him. Did Yahweh not know this man needed more time to set his house in order? Every leaf out the bible is just confusing. It contradicts itself alot.

Maximus69:
our own God (JEHOVAH) is not a MYSTERIOUS God Sir.

That's what the churches of Christendom claims to practice lawlessness {Matthew 7:21-23} they welcome all sort of religious ideologies as long as majority are in support of such ideas, they thought God is democratic (idea accepted by the majority), no matter how debased the idea as long as it involves the majority Christendom welcomes it and that's why they can not stand for RIGHTEOUSNESS!

Yes he is...otherwise he would not be a God. If you could tell his mind then he is no God. Dont you see how much you contradict yourself? To be a God is not child's play. And you must live up to that title. You have not seen him before. Same for me. So we cannot make claims here. You cannot read his mind.
As for the second part. You are simply being hypocritical here. You dont follow every single thing in the bible. Even if you think you do. No one in this age and time can, otherwise you would be in prison. For me all religion is fraud. However some are not so extreme ..i can deal with that. Live and let live.

Maximus69:
We can perfectly read the mind of our own God! When a spirit (representing JEHOVAH) spoke with Abraham concerning the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham said "it's UNTHINKABLE for God to ......" Genesis 18:25

You can't. You only rationalise to gain a sort of mental homeostasis, for lack of a better phrase. I lost my mom...."oh God gives and he takes away"
Children are starving in other countries like somalia "oh the grace has not reached them yet.
You rationalise so you dont have a mental breakdown from cognitive dissonance. Abraham's statement was not him reading the mind of God. That is him displaying shock and trying to reason with *Yahweh* who is supposed to be almighty( seriously)

Maximus69:
When the spirit representing JEHOVAH thought of destroying the Israelites and establish Moses for the purpose of saving mankind. Moses READ God's mind by asking "What about Jehovah's name that's involved?" Numbers 14:11-23 compared to Psalms 23:3

Again that's not reading God's mind, its reasoning with God. Funny cos Moses actually made sense where as God was succumbing to his rage and just about to *make a mistake*.

Maximus69:
When the Pharisees were trying to condemn the good works Jesus did, the healed blind man said "we know that our God DOES NOT SUPPORT EVIL" John 9:31

Let's not kid ourselves. First borns of egyptians dying, children, women, oxen ass, etc not being spared according to Yahweh's instruction to saul is far from not supporting evil.
I remember reading an awake book that said *God is capable of Evil, but not sin* so i disagree heavily here.

Maximus69:
The Discipline James (Jesus' half brother~ Matthew 13:55) after becoming a Christian said "when under trial, no man should say 'this temptation is from God'" WHY?
James answered "with evil things God cannot be tried NEITHER DOES HE HIMSELF TRY ANYONE (WITH EVIL THINGS)" James 1:13

So an almighty God can do what he pleases with his creatures and cannot be called out? How convenient for his propagators.

Maximus69:
So my friend, God's word (Jesus) made it clear to us that [b]if we're diligent in our study, we can READ Jehovah's mind! Proverbs 2:5 [/b]

Your quotation doesnt mean what you think it means...fear the lord and gain the knowledge of God doesnt mean you can read the mind of God. Revise your thought on this.

Maximus69:
You need not beg me Sir, beg yourself to be humble enough to gain insight!

We are SEARCHING for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (individuals who are ready for ORDERLINESS). Matthew 10:6, 15:24

An adage says "he who fails to plan is actually planning to fail!"

If you're not sure of a PERFECT marriage when you're thinking of getting married someday and you're not even willing to accept counsel from those who have succeeded in marriage, then there is no reasonableness in wasting precious time with you!

You are a confirmed ATHEIST Sir. I've spoken with many of your professors, and it's the same mindset.
They're furiously against humble people not to pay attention to wise counsels that's WORKING, and at the same time they'll say publicly that they are threading on the path of uncertainty!

So what's the sense in engaging them in a discuss?
Intelligent creatures communicate to gain insight not just to argue, WE ARE NOT ANIMALS!(unintelligent creatures)

Thanks for your time!

Okay i can see you are angry now. I only wanted you to pick and reply the post like you had already been doing.

Being atheist is not a bad thing. Im not an atheist tho...i jux hate religion aka deceit.

And oh see..frustration....surely you didnt think i would swallow everything hook line and sinker...im not naive...i knew wat exactly to expect.

Oh and you are an animal, we all are, animal do possess intelligence. You really need to step out your bubble. Read other literature aside your mind controlling books. Broaden ur reasoning capacity.

And relax...no need to be pissed off..lol. you were doing well.

Maximus69:
He is a confirmed ATHEIST.

Satan is their founder and his first catch was the human couple (Adam and Eve), they wish to advice (tell others what to do) but they detest guidance. That's what Satan promised them "you will be like God(setting standards for others when nobody set any for you) " Genesis 3:5

They'll come as if they've got something tangible to offer but if you study them carefully, you'll notice that they are only advocates of DISORDER!

I guess you gave am now and went the way of ad hominem.

TemmyT002:
I hope you are married. I would love to see what your family looks like.
I am not having a dig at you. I am just curious.

I cannot promise that my marriage will be perfect. But i will try my very best. If it collapses it collapses, we move on. But i wnt delude myself with scriptures to think all will be well regardless.

Maximus69:
Well it's a global conception that Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only group that all others are envying. Check opera mini and see uncountable posts regarding this single global group when there are thousands of religions on planet earth!
Talk about our:
Youths~ they're every mother's dream child because they're obedient and exemplary.
Men~ they're every woman's dream when searching for a faithful husband.
Women ~ they're every man's wife of their dream.

You may like to dispute this but critics will worriedly tell you "Jehovah's witnesses ONLY MARRY THEMSELVES" perhaps those critics just like saying so without a deep feeling in their hearts to have JWs as spouse!

As for blood transfusion, i told you from the beginning that our GOD don't work on WANTS but NEEDS. We know that it's anxieties of life and desperation that makes people fall for the experimental research, scientists are doing with blood.

Ask a professional in that field if he/she will opt for a blood transfusion in any situation.

My friend, they'll tell you "NO!"
So why are they using others to experiment their findings?

Let me tell you the TRUTH!

Scientists have lots of secrets the are keeping away from the general public. And none of them will tell you the TRUTH behind their research.

God said "the blood in any creature is it's life" this means it's going to lead to a disaster if the blood of a creature gets into the body of another creature! Leviticus 17:11-14, Deuteronomy 12:23

Today, different illnesses are emerging and scientists themselves are confused as to the cause of such. But Jehovah's Witnesses know for sure that 99% of such deceases are the result of ignoring the instructional manual from our maker who emphatically warned humans to "ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD" Act 15:28-29

So thanks for your time Sir, i really enjoyed discussing with you. And i think you can now see that;
FRUSTRATION comes only when you're battling really hard to establish what is not true or when you're striving vigorously to debunk what is all eyes can SEE! Matthew 5:14-16!

I didnt read the whole thing. Pls quote and reply the post properly, i beg u.

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmmm,
You ended your post with the word PEACE, yet you're dodging/running/avoiding/hiding from one single thing;

ORDERLINESS!

Oh sorry that i called a spade a spade. Lets move on.

Maximus69:
Initially when discussing about prayer, i told you that God don't work on WANTS but NEEDS

How do you suddenly know the mind of God? A king wanted to 15 additional years and he was granted. Did he want or need those years? You seem to indulge in the convenience of saying things are needed[/b]when they happen and [b]wanted when they dont. God works in mysterious ways yet christians (JWs inclusive) seem to be in the right position tell you the mind of God. How mysterious.

Maximus69:
human's wants are unlimited and in most cases unreasonable. God is less concerned with what both gender WANTED from each other, his main concern is their NEEDS Sir!

Again, when does something become a want and a need? If you answer this question then you have spoken God's mind. You cant possibly do that so this statement is flawed.

Maximus69:
Well let me tell you that what is going on now (GENDER EQUALITY CALL) will lead to a catastrophe.


It might begin subtly but the end will be disastrous! Psalms 16:25, Proverbs 14:12

This screams insecurity and pettiness. And again you are using scriptures of sexist cave men to mke yourself feel better about it.

Maximus69:
A time will come when children will start backing the parent of their gender (daughters will start supporting their mum, while sons will start supporting their dad) and each gender will start fighting for the right of it's kind. 2Timothy 3:1-5

This is only logical. Ofcos the sons will grow up to be fathers and the daughters grow up to be mothers. So ofcos they will side with their genders, so tomorrow they get to enjoy those rights too. Logic...Don't quote scripture for this.

Maximus69:
Then you will know that it's only Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) who have subjected themselves COMPLETELY to the books written by those so called cave men will be able to maintain PEACE in their homes! 2Timothy 3:16-17

These men are cave men. Following their book will not give u total happiness...even if u delude yourself to believe this. There are ups and downs in this world and marriage is no exception. Enjoy it for wat it is. Dont expect the impossible. There is no peace in a human gathering for long. But in order to maintain the union we must be tolerant and communicate in respectful ways. Yes, ur wife demands respect too not just love.

Maximus69:
Well, i think our agreement before embarking on this discuss is REASONABLENESS!


So i'll just take two points that's demanding for reasoning!

(1) Jesus lived over 2,000 years ago and that was the very period he began this movement to unite people from all nations under one umbrella! Matthew 28:18-20
He acknowledged that the ruler of this world is Satan the devil and that Satan has captured most people on this planet! John 14:30 compared to Luke 4:6-7
He himself said there will come a period when his newly founded group will be devastated by self centered and greedy humans (Satan's agents in disguise)! Matthew 13:24-30, 2Corinthians 11:14-15
But another time will come again when Jesus' true followers will be gathered as one recognisable group after the whole stormy weather! John 17:20-23
He said "the whole world will recognise his disciples as LOVE permeates their midst" John 13:34-35

This buildup can be used by every denomination. Its not exclusive to JWs.

Maximus69:
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Today Jehovah's Witnesses have emerged somehow out of thousands of religious groups claiming Christians having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings.

Again this isnt exclusive to JWs...every faction anywhere thinks they are the best. Heard it all before.

Maximus69:
They have eradicated Racism and Politics from their midst.

What are you talking about...again this isnt exclusive to JWs.

Maximus69:
They have formed one big happy global family of peace loving worshippers.

Again, not exclusive.

Maximus69:
They have developed a setting where everyone on this planet can say "their families are orderly".
Their youths are exemplary.

I think you might be living in a bubble sir. Step out and ask around. Even here people think the JWs as mindless robots and a cult. I only half agree with that notion.

Maximus69:
Their men are the desire of every woman's dream.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You made me laugh so hard. Oh dear. From what i have seen, No! Women fear u guys, they think you are all mindless robots. And the blood issue, its a serious put off.

Maximus69:
Their women are the target of all men who wants a happy home.

Not to be too rough but you women have serious repressed sexuality. A docile woman does not make a happy home, unless you want a woman u can subdue...then all is well.

Maximus69:
They're known globally for their unique faith, as they're zealously preaching and teaching what they know in their respective neighborhood.

You guys are persistent i will give you that. Problem however is the hive-mind and your tunnel vision. But you do well with evangelism.

Maximus69:
In a world filled with violence, greed, immortality and so on, Jesus (though invisible) successfully gathered over 8,500,000 people from different races of all the nations and united them as ONE BIG FAMILY!

Immortality? You mean mortality?
Also explain the 8.5m people thing to me.

Maximus69:
Hello Sir, that first century Jewish carpenter from Nazareth called Jesus has indisputably CONQUERED the world! Matthew 16:33

If he has(he hasnt) then he is doing a bad job ruling over it

Maximus69:
His next move now is to come and EXTERMINATE all opposers of his ORDER {Luke 19:27}

You will be waiting for eternity.

Maximus69:
That's why we are worriedly coming to knock on your doors to tell you that you need to enter into the ARK! Matthew 17:26

If it make you feel good why not...but u arent fulfilling any divine instructions. Religion is a delusionl

Maximus69:
If we fail to do this, it means selfishness on our part and we must love our neighbors as ourselves Mark 12:31 compared to Ezekiel 3:18-21

Thanks!

Then give out blood when your neighbours need it to live.

Maximus69:
Nature itself explains what the scriptures says without any controversy.

If you beat a dog into submission, it will become docile...this isn't spiritual, its common sense.

Maximus69:
My wife is a believer and i won't have married an unbeliever who will not subject herself to Godly principles!

I will not have a dig at your wife. Everyone has a requirement for what they find attractive in a man. So i wont fault her there. But you have clearly stated that you want a submissive woman and you got one. Its not a spiritual thing, its how you were brought up. Happy marriage.

Maximus69:
There is orderliness in Christianity.

Is that why a 1001 denominations exists? Because of this order? Dont sit there and think JW are the only christians in the world. That would be petty.

Maximus69:
JEHOVAH (God) is the overall supreme!

Jesus is the commander in chief of all God's heavenly host and earthly organization!

There is a body Jesus arranged to oversee his earthly organization!

I thought satan was the ruler of this world. If Jesus is the head of the earth then he is doing a terrible job. Some leader he is, chaos, imbalance and destruction everywhere. Africa is now in a state where only the fittest survive...tell him he isnt doing a good job.

Maximus69:
Each man should head his own house and each woman should subject herself to her own husband. 1Corinthians 11:3

Do you know that your wife is your equal? In this day and age you still age women must subject themselves? To what end? So men can walk over them? Both parties require mutual respect but taking from your previous post, women only require lovey dovey so i expect nothing better from you on that front. If you cannot deal with a strong woman who knows what she's about then i think you are the problem. Times are changing bruh.

Maximus69:
Children must be submissive to their parents (daddy and mummy). Ephesians 6:1-3


That's how God organized his worshippers in an orderly manner!

Yh, even parents that ask you to do stupid and evil things. I would not mind my child reasoning with me...only that they should do it well...that all. But im sure your word is law in your house, no space for negotiation. This value is why we have corrupt politicians when our kids grow up. African/christian values my foot.

Maximus69:
Remember what i told you from the beginning;

Frustration come when you're trying to establish what is not or when you're trying to refute what is obvious to all eyes!

Matters of religious inclination is never set in stone. Its very very subjective. There is nothing obvious anywhere. We pick things on a case by case basis.

Maximus69:
The most organized global female group, head and supervised by females is the FIN "FEMALES IN" sisters group on Facebook!

And what is their principal topic of discuss?

How to cope with Males!

Even women globally are aware of the fact that IN THE ABSENCE OF MEN, WOMEN CAN NEVER BE ORGANIZED!
Of course they'll continue to envy one another furiously, but they are pleased even if their male boss is irrational than to settle for a female boss!

So are you still ready for reasoning?

I dont even know wat to say.

Based on what facts do you claim that group to be the most organised female group? Ur answer will allow me to further address this matter

kelvinrhs:
Everything is under his control but he gave us right to make our own choices. He's not forcing anyone to serve him

Yes he is...well going by ur doctrine and teachings that is.

If i told you, my son, you can go out and play, however if you do, no food for u for a month.

On face value, i have given my son a choice. But in reality i have given him no choice but to obey me. Is that what qualifies as choice these days? No body wants to burn for eternity...

No if it was simply, if u obey me you will be rewarded, now that would be a choice.


And that is jux assuming your *choice* argument is valid enough to argue.
Now if everything is under his control you have no control. How can you have a choice when you have no control? He sees all knows all, hears all. How can you escape his foresight...he knows what you will do before you do it. You have no choice.

Maximus69:
@kimco.

There is no problem if someone chose to be an atheist.

God's promised of everlasting life for ONLY obedient humans has a solid reason!

He is the maker of the earth and all the creatures in it. So his wisdom is a millions times higher than any of his creatures, which quantifies him to dictate how things should be arranged. Isaiah 55:7-9 compared to Romans 1:20

Anyone who choose to oppose his sovereignty will surely become a menace sooner or later to himself/herself and others!

If a female should slap a male, the feeling will be "she DISRESPECTED me".
But if a male should do the same, the feeling is "he HATE me"

So why the imbalance?

Well God (our Creator) provided the answer! What Females NEED from males is to be LOVED, on the other hand what males NEED from females is DEEP RESPECT! Ephesians 5:33

Not even all your professors in atheism put together can refute this because it's the TRUTH! Job 5:13

Sorry my friend, frustration comes;
WHEN YOU'RE STRIVING TO ESTABLISH WHAT IS NOT WORKING or WHEN YOU'RE BENT ON REFUTING WHAT ALL EYES CAN SEE! Isaiah 54:17

So a man doesnt want to be loved, only respected and a woman doesnt want to be respected only loved? Is there why there is a great feminist movement now? Im not atheist...im simply not religious...call me agnostic. Your statement is false and myopic on so many levels its disgusting. The social order you see today is that which has been created by man. Dont let any book written by misogynist men make you feel you are in the right. Even you as a man yearn to be loved and the woman yearns to be respected...instead of quoting a book written by cave men who demselves are victims of their era and environment, you could go researching to see if that argument u just made still holds.

Peace

Maximus69:
(3)God created the female humans as a complement for the man Sir.

That's why rebellious angels could come down, transformed themselves into humans and start having sex with female humans! Genesis 6:1-4

You'll notice that female names were excluded during the writing of so many accounts, unless if something noteworthy comes from a woman.

Jesus selected TWELVE Apostles from amongst his disciples, all were males NO FEMALES.

Adam decided to join his wife in rebellion against God but he was not deceived {1Timothy 2:14} while Job maintained his own integrity even when his own wife asked him to CURSE GOD and die. But after the whole event, God never call the woman's words to account because she's just a female created to complement Job!

So God, Jesus and the angels are of one line of thought regarding female humans Sir!

Of course they are useful in other fields {Proverbs 32:10-31} but regarding headship in sacred services, females are to be silent in the midst of males!

(4)Once again i'll tell you that Paul is a man of great wisdom regarding God's word, that's why Jesus personally chose him to be an Apostle for the nations. Wherever you may come from in any part of this planet, if you're not ready to accept Paul's teachings Jesus will not acknowledge you because Paul is your Apostle! Act 9:15 1Timothy 2:7

Thanks!

So in other words, you are a sexist too. Worse so, you are justifying it with religion. Biblical Isreal was extremely patriarchal. Which part of that didnt you understand? Of os an account of it is going to exclude females. No surprise there. So my question is to u...do u agree with wat paul said about women? Will u subject ur wife to paul's wishes?

Maximus69:
FRUSTRATION comes when you're trying to establish what is not or when you're trying to refute what is obvious!

True Christians will never get frustrated because of ridicule, in reality it's misinformed religionists that do get frustrated! Isaiah 54:17

Even Moses challenged (questioned) God when he was asked to go and do what seems impossible!

So your questions are welcome as long as you're ready to REASON!

U shud be a bhudist lol. Sweet tongue...

Maximus69:
Never mind.

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) we were commanded to preach (reason) with PEOPLE OF ALL THE NATIONS! Matthew 28:19

Don't worry as long as you're ready to reason, my God will supply the answers to whatever you have at heart! Hebrew 4:12 compared to Isaiah 1:18

So keep asking and you'll get the answers NOT from Maximus but FROM God's word (Bible)! Matthew 7:7-8

Thanks!

What will happen if i challenge those answers, will u get frustrated and call me an evil spirit like de rest?

Maximus69:
Answers to each question!

(1) After the incident in the garden of Eden, Yahweh (Jehovah) has turned his attention away from humans and designated his spirit sons (angels) to keep an eye on what is going on. One of them Michael is the one representing Yahweh, so it wasn't him that Moses was dealing with DIRECTLY!

When did God first reveal himself(even if it was his back) to any man...plus tell his name to any man? Are you telling me that it was Michael claiming to God's name? If what you say is true in anyway then we have deceived to think we were communicating with Yahweh himself and not his right hand man. I doubt this is true however, but know how inconsistent the bible might be, im not shocked at this confusion.

Maximus69:
(2) Paul was a scholar as in professor in the Jewish law so he knew far better than any of Jesus' followers, but his mind was directed at protecting the Mosaic laws. When he has a personal encounter with Jesus, he now realized that truthfully speaking Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) because his teachers (Pharisees) have killed Jesus, so for this same Jesus to have spoken to Paul from heaven, Paul now understand that Jesus has been resurrected from the dead and is now alive. Jesus now used Paul to the full as his BEST student {follower}. Act 9:1-16

The very core of Judaism was its exclusivity Elitism, and partrachial nature. Gentiles were worse than dogs and women were no better. Christianity on the other hand was quite the opposite (all inclusive, save the one time Jesus told the lady he only came for the lost sheep of Israel. More confusion) Paul being a scholar of Judaism cud nt have made him a better scholar than those who spent time under Jesus first hand. Paul was energetic and a bit of know it all because of his scholarship( its usual with scholars ) he also had the exuberance. That didnt make him a better "disciple". I dont know why christians hold this man in such high regard.

Maximus69:
(3) God created woman to complement man { Genesis 2:18} the woman has little responsibility when it comes to spiritual things, that's why you see that in most cases names of women were excluded during the writing of God's word, unless any woman that does something that's noteworthy! So Paul is not a sexist, he perfectly understood the scriptures much more than any of the Apostles!

If at one point you had sat down to learn that Israel was an extremely partraichial society you would know that being rooted in Judaism, Paul could not severe the ties that made most old school judists, sexist. It has nothing to do spiritual duties, and more to do with man power. Women were not even allowed to give testimonies in court. He couldn't help himself. He was who he was. So then again, what makes this arrogant know it all roman better than those who actually spent time with christ himself?

From your text, you would allow your woman take up the mic and lead a congregation even if she has wisdom to share? Because Paul says so?

TemmyT002:
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You are probably an atheist. It's a waste of time telling you anything.

Im not...atleast not yet.

I'd like you to reason with me...

Maximus69:
1~ If you're not fully convinced about that, just ask the questions and i'll show you biblical references to back my writeup!
2~ Never expect all of us to grasp sacred secrets at the same pace. Paul became a Christian after the ascension of Jesus and Jesus appointed him to be the Apostle of the nations! 1Timothy 2:7, 1Corinthians 15:10
What helped Paul? He remained an errand boy to the Apostles who were sending him as their representative from place to place.
Of course he knew better than them in the application of certain scriptures, but he NEVER elevate himself above the Apostles in Jerusalem! Act 15:22-25

In modern times, the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses have taught us so many things and asked us to continue making personal studies on our own prayerfully!
Whatever we discover is not to be made known publicly until God's holy spirit direct the BODY to publish it. So we'll humbly subject ourselves under the oversight of the governing body until God's holy spirit reveal it to them! 1Corinthians 13:9-10
Many due to their diligent studies and thorough meditation coupled with heartfelt prayers to God have discovered some sacred secrets through the help of God's holy spirit.
Sadly they were filled with arrogance and concluded that they're now better than the governing body, so they left the organization, start their own religion but after seeing that their Churches can't meet up with the standard, orderliness and achievement of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, they'll start saying evil things against the organization.
They'll tell you that the governing body failed in prophecy and so many other things. Just ask them one thought provoking question; "which organization do you think can replace or performing better than the JWs?"

That's when you'll realize that they're just envious of the organization, as they'll be beating about the bush with no specific answer!

1....was it not Yaweh that Moses dealt with?

2. What makes you think Paul understood the ideologies of christ more?

3. Picking from your text, do you think a sexist like Paul's word should be taken seriously? Sure some of what he says is fine, but some are jux wrong...what say you on that?

TemmyT002:
Why do you ask your parents for anything?

They are not omniscient. But you claim Yaweh is. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Op if you have these urges then it tells you you are alive and things are working in order. Don't be ashamed of it. Embrace it.

1. Get yourself a girlfriend.(if you dont have one)

2. When not with your girlfriend, bury yourself in activities that would build your pockets and brain

3. Presented with the chance to have sex, i'd say, why not, but dont let it become an addiction...that's where number 2 comes in.

OpenYourEyes1:
Delete every female pics on your phone. Avoid eye contact with strange women. Avoid staring at female pictures especially the eyes. "They" deliberately made the eyes in the pictures to be staring at people.

Avoid staring at women on social media/internet & even real world.

You have to pray, read your Bible and fast every day until you are free. Whenever the urge becomes intense, send me a private message, I will be here praying for you.

You have to repent bro. Believe in the word of GOD and you will be free.

Hahahahahahaha!

I think you should simplify this and ask the guy to be celibate.

nlPoster:
For those who are struggling with lust induced by pictures of "pretty faces", especially of our Nigerian ladies online, remember you are often admiring the makeup or lighting, not the actual person who you have not seen.

Keep that in mind.

Also, once you know the "pretty face", you might or might not like them.

He is not falling inlove he is having sexual desires..that means the female anatomy is that which draws him in and not the faces.

My own is, to whom much is given, that much is expected. If i give u $25m to do the lord's work i expect the 25m to go into the lord's work. Now if you give out 100k and keep the rest should i praise you? Think my people, think. We await more and more of this gesture...pastor chris...its not enough but a starter.

Dee04:
Where are the anti-pastors?.
They're probably blind now..
Daddy freeze and his disciples will still call it show off

I dont get it...when they dont do it and you lit fire beneath them and they start doing it, would that not be a thing to celebrate for all?

Would keeping quiet be the best course of action in ur opinion?

uboma:
When you have learnt how to write legibly and to pass on your points coherently, quote me so we can have an intelligent debate on this issue.

Until then, you are ignored!

fixed the original text for you if you care to go back and read it.

Maximus69:
You're not following with meditation Sir!

God's dealings with humans did not exceed the garden of Eden!

After what happened in the garden of Eden, God turned his back on the human race!

It was Michael (his first spirit son) that was acting in his stead until this same Michael was transformed into an embryo to complete the reconciliation work he began after the fall of man in the garden of Eden!

Michael came as Jesus and after his resurrection, he went back to heaven to present the ransom before God's throne and all the loyal Angele present, that he has paid the full price for reconciliation between God and humans.
That's the time God turned his attention bact to the human race again, but this time only to those whom God himself selected amongst the followers of Jesus. This ones God baptized them by means of his holy spirit and they were adopted again as sons of God just as he viewed Adam in the beginning!

If you're not one of them and you're not having any business with them, forget my guy God have NO BUSINESS WITH YOU. That's why Jesus said most religionists will be condemned because "they failed to RECOGNISE his spirit anointed brothers" Matthew 25:31-46

So after the fall of man in the garden of Eden, the mighty spirit son of God that's been serving as God was Michael (Jesus), that's why one of the spirit anointed sons of God (born again Christian) named Apostle John could write "In the beginning WAS the word, and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God"

Most religionists never studied that scripture prayerfully with thorough meditation!

What John is saying in a lay man's language is that "the (God) all those people knew from Abel's time till Jesus came as human WAS the same Jesus, but there is another greater person that Jesus was serving, this is the one that Jesus was working for from the beginning till now" compared to John 1:18

That person is JEHOVAH! 1Corinthians 15:27-28

So the God that dealt with Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob till the time of John (the baptist) was a representative of God NOT the Almighty himself!
That's why the story that says God was advised or begged not to destroy some people were written. Mind you it wasn't the Almighty himself but his mighty spirit son acting in his stead. For your information Moses also served as God at some point in time and he (while serving as God) still made mistakes! Exodus 7:1

To confirm this to the Israelites, Jesus while teaching his listeners about his God and father, said so many things that contradicts the attitude of the God they knew or heard of in the Old Testament!
He made it clear that his God and father is not to be viewed from the perspective of the Mosaic laws!

Thanks!

Yahweh was the one dealing with Moses...not Jesus. I am that I am...so i dont know wat u r talking about. But nonetheless i will research.

I bet u, 95% of ur brethren will not agree with ur epistle.

uboma:
All the vices originated from the West.


This world should come to an end already

Nonsense. Were we not killing people here for fun in africa? Do you know how much the world has changed for good? If a man travelled from the 16th century and came into this century he wud marvel at how lax de world has become...take it easy...it was worse back then...u better thank something that you were born in this tym and also in a country where you dnt starve to death.

Maximus69:
Before God started the creation works, there was NO EVIL, he was all alone and there was nobody to envy anybody.

So the first creature he made was exactly like himself (spirit son called Michael) and later himself and Michael further the creation works to the point of making many more spirit beings (angels). That's why Michael (the first angel) was called the archangel. All these happened in heaven the place where God and all his intelligent sons (angels) lives.

Now after this ones came into existence some of them felt like having authorities just like Michael who is known as their eldest brother, but there is no one to exercise such authority upon.

Then God created the earth and all the creatures in it, then he created another set of intelligent creatures (humans) on the earth to take control of the earth. This made some of his spirit sons who are far too powerful than humans envious of man, so one of God's spirit sons challenged God saying "humans can succeed on their own with or without God's rules".

That is what brought about the incident in the garden of Eden. This spirit being used his power to possess a snake and spoke to the lesser experienced (last intelligent creature) known as woman! She fell for the bait and her husband joined her in the rebellion. God pronounced judgement upon the three rebels and turned his back on the human race!
Since then his attention is no more here, because he knew that Satan is not interested in seeing humans become independent, Satan is only interested in ruling humans and there is no way he could do this if God did not abandon as in leave them for him!

So God concentrated on heaven and his spirit sons, but he designed some of this powerful spirits to come down and keep going about on the surface of the earth. They're NOT to intervene in the affairs of what is happening amongst humans, they're just to report back to him if things are getting out of hand. The bad reports are too much to the extent that God instructed the angels to keep their eyes on good ones amongst humans. Genesis 6:9

So when people called him the OMNISCIENT God, i just laugh because someone who said his eyes are too pure to continue looking at what is evil can't be omniscient! Habakkuk 1:13

For a certainty there are many things happening ever since Satan began ruling the earth { Luke 4:6, John 14:30, 2Corinthians 4:4, 1John 5:19) that God can't bear even listening to such evil reports because HE IS HOLY { Matthew 5:48,1Peter 1:16} and that means he is 100% pure!
That's why he often sent his angels (loyal spirit sons) to go and destroy some of Adam's descendants who have gone beyond what his ears could bear! Genesis 6:6-7, 18:20 compared to Jonah 1:2

Thanks!

interesting....i will confirm your research tonight and give feedback but YES , everything points out to the fact that God isnt an omnipotent God. At one point he got so angry and wanted to kill the Israelites for worshipping idols...it was Moses who spoke reason to him....
Another is Hezekiah pleading for extension of life and after careful deliberation, was given 15 more years. What kind of all powerful God is this? He cant know all...otherwise how can his mind be changed?

All this and people swallow it whole

Maximus69:
@bolded!

Will you be interested in my lengthy epistle now?

Because that's going to take almost the same length (along with biblical references) with what i typed earlier to explain that THE TRUE GOD IS NOT OMNISCIENT PRESENTLY!

But be rest assured that the Author of the Bible who claims to be the Almighty God has said in his own book "i'm no more OMNISCIENT (at least) for now".

Will be interested? If its engaging enough. Why not...i want to learn.

Bolded part: well now this is interesting.

PietraK:
Thanks.

Having heard the report from my friend, my sister rushed to her own trusted spiritual source without saying much and she claimed the man said the same things.

My friend visited two other places and claimed that they also said the same thing. I have been reluctant to visit any place because I never believed in such. How can a fellow human tell of my history and problems of which he/she knows nothing about?

Sit down and analyse ur business venture...account for everything, hire someone who can if possible. See where u are falling short and cut loose any dead weight even if its ur partners, but never do business alone, its tough.

I dont agree with de spiritual aspect but incase u want to confirm...go on ur own, without i forming anyone to a diff source. Make sure to not give this new source a leading information. Jux state that your business is failing. Don't tell them you have a partner. But tell them of your family etc and friend