Squillaci:

I was given certificates of my results.

The certificate of your results does not prove shit_ . How sure are you what is in the certificate is valid ?

All I ask is a copy of his complete IQ test report. Thatz all.

Can you post the complete IQ test report of a public figure with a high IQ ? Just anyone . Let's see .

Squillaci:


Well, from my study of IQ tests, no valid IQ tests score above 4 standard deviations I.e 1 in 30000 which is just exceptionally gifted and not profoundly or supremely gifted.
That's why I doubt his claims. He prolly took one of those mega society tests e.g the titan test, the mega test, or the LAIT which claim to measure IQ of rarity 1 in x million.
None of the those tests are recognized neither are they valid.

He is seen as the smartest man in America and possibly in the world . Don't you think many people who understand how it works would have questioned his intellect or even his IQ score ?

Squillaci:


Lol, organizers of the video stating so doesn't prove shit_

I'm sure you took WAEC and JAMB , did you ask the organizers to provide evidence to prove that what they said you got was actually what you got ?

Did you ?

Yes or No ?

dalaman:


Where is it?

Google search it and buy the e-book( Its $10)

Am asking you the question. .

Why do you need a response from me since you claimed his views are in the bible ? From his views in the bible , is Jesus a creationist or an evolutionist ?

Squillaci:


Lol, organizers of the video stating so doesn't prove shit_
If you are going to make claims be ready to provide evidence.
IQ test papers? He may not have taken a real IQ test in the first place.
All I ask is for you to tell us what Iq test he took: Welshler? Stanford binet? Cattell? Lol. How many persons were used to norm the test?

I love how critical you are about this topic . And I don't how his IQ was measured (I already stated that ) .

More information about Christopher Langan is on the internet and if you need such details about him , you can find out for yourself . I'm not sure why you think I should do that for you .

frosbel2:
Religious bull sh.it. there are many people of other religions or no religion who have high IQs.

Not disputing that

This topic is further evidence that Religion is a divider not a uniter.

How ?

Please point me to the prominent Nigerian Christians who have an IQ is 100 as a minimum -

Irrelevant

dalaman:


Read which work?

His work on the mathematical proof for the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife

Jesus view with regards to creation are stated inside the bible. Is he a creationist or evolutionist ?

Well if they are stated in the bible as you claimed , is Jesus a creationist or evolutionist ?

bloodofthelamb:
So, this justifies robing the sheep through an out dated tithing system in the name of the HOLY GOD.

Seriously even if they were conmen , I'd still pick them over the leaders in this country .

JackBizzle:
Just read the rationalwiki on this guy. The guy is fraudulent abeg.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan


Nonsense. Leaves thread.

What makes him a fraud ?

If he were an atheist you wont be doing this

dalaman:


Where is his mathematical proof for the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife?

Read his work to find out

Again was Jesus a creationist or evolutionist?

Very stupid question

Squillaci:


Dude, I am challenging your claims that he has an IQ of 195 and that he was smarter than his professors, and you are still here telling me that he has an IQ of 195 bla bla bla.
Show us evidence that he has an IQ of 190+, what valid test(s) he took, and what standard deviation was used.
That's all

Dude , it was stated by the organizers in the video . This is a known fact that he has a verified IQ of 195 (and it could be way higher than that ).

Go and bring his IQ test papers and check his score if you are that pedantic , that's your business

Squillaci:


Hundreds of people get perfect SAT scores every year. Summing the numbers of testees for 30+ years would be well over 10000. In a population of 350 million, that's about 1 in 35000. Again, not too impressive.
What's your evidence that he was smarter than his professors, because he said so?

He has a verified IQ of 195 but the organizers of the test believe that it is way higher than that . He also took the world's most difficult IQ test and has been described as the smartest man in America and possibly the smartest man in the world .

He also worked on the 'P versus NP problem' (an unsolved problem in computer science ) and thinks he can prove that P does not equal NP.

He learnt all he knows by himself .

THis video should help


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7hHMOpyJKc

Squillaci:
@Kingebukasblog,
What standard deviation was used to gauge his IQ? Because I know with standard deviation of 15 IQ of 195 does not exist as it is greater than 1 in 8 billion.
Also most IQ tests stop measuring at 4 standard deviations from the mean(i.e 160@SD15, 164@SD16, and 196@SD24). That's about 1 in 30000 which is no where near the highest possible IQ@ 1 in 7.4 billion.
So tell us what tests where used to gauge his IQ; are they valid?

I don't know how his IQ measured . But he had a perfect sat score , taught himself all he knew(he was way smarter than his professors ) , few people in the world understand his theory ,the CTMU , and he has so many profound ideas about life and the universe that can challenge your view about them . Do you need more info to understand how incredibly intelligent he is ?

sonofthunder:

Lol... lemme go and prepare coffee... This thread may get longer than I anticipated.

GodDeyCraze:



Are you saying he is the smartest/most intelligent person in the world?

They say his IQ could be higher than that so maybe he is the smartest in the world

JackBizzle:



Kingebukasblog has started with his fallacious arguments again.

IQ is one measure amongst many measures of intelligence.

There are people with high IQ that lack emotional intelligence. They can't relate with others.

See how desperately you are trying to undermine the IQ simply because many theists and Christians have the highest IQs

IQ measures how logically you can think mostly , one's problem solving abilities and these people are on the high side . If it upsets you , you can go and hug transformer.

Furthermore, mathematics cannot prove the existence of anything in the physical world. Numbers themselves do not exist. For this 'smart' Christian to claim that mathematics can prove God, he must be on some good weed.

I'm pretty sure he has at least 3 times your IQ and someone as smart as Chris Langan does know what he is talking about .

I haven't seen his argument or work on it but I think it would be based on the applicability of mathematics in a physical world : Since numbers, mathematical objects are mind-dependent and mathematics is the language of nature then it would only point to the existence of an ultimate mind

dalaman:
Was Jesus a creationist or an evolutionist? The guy is smart enough to discard the mythology of the bible and embrace his own scientific mythology. He mixed the two up. He claimed without providing any evidence that


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."

He should do that already and win a Nobel Peace prize na.

It's easy to make baseless claims na. Proving them is always the problem.

Many smart Christians today see the creation story as an allegory and embrace evolution or they embrace special creationism which is the hybridization of creationism and evolution.

This is the 1 474 574th time we are having this same discussion. Sir, ain't you tired of repeating the same things over and over again ?

Have you read his work -the CTMU - before trying to criticise simply because he is a Christian ?

GodDeyCraze:
Which one come be smartest Christian again

He is the smartest amongst all of us and is still a staunch Christian.

He is also smarter than every atheist in the world

CoolUsername:
I wonder how Isaac Newton's IQ was determined.

From the nature of his works I guess . His works were really profound .

Isaac Newton , Father of Modern Physics and Christian theologian , had an IQ of 190 . THere are other smart Christians with high IQs . In fact , out of 10 highest IQs on earth, at least 8 are theists' and at least 6 are Christians'

thesicilian:
I disagree.

Who is the smartest Christian alive then ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-788Upky2Y




Christopher Langan has an IQ of about 200 . He has written so many impressive works , one of which is the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU) which "explains the connection between mind and reality, therefore the presence of cognition and universe in the same phrase". He calls his proposal "a true 'Theory of Everything', a cross between John Archibald Wheeler's 'Participatory Universe' and Stephen Hawking's 'Imaginary Time' theory of cosmology."


In conjunction with his ideas, Langan has claimed:


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."

Asked about creationism, Langan has said:


"I believe in the theory of evolution, but I believe as well in the allegorical truth of creation theory. In other words, I believe that evolution, including the principle of natural selection, is one of the tools used by God to create mankind. Mankind is then a participant in the creation of the universe itself, so that we have a closed loop. I believe that there is a level on which science and religious metaphor are mutually compatible."

Fakepastors:
Many pastors will tell u God told them Chelsea will draw at the end they will not draw.
Why can't God predict it

Prediction has to do with the probability or likelihood of an event . An omniscient being does not need to predict because he foreknows the outcome of all events .

And besides , gambling is a sin and since this is the case , then God does not need to partake in such .

hakeem4:
Cause he doesn’t exist

So you have joined these fools in making stupid claims?


Now can you provide one logical reason to support your claim(or I'll have every logical reason to dismiss it ) , and please don't embarrass yourself this night

Or are you being sarcastic

dalaman:


You are saying many things with out making any point. Which part of the christian belief or tradition gave birth to biology, physic and chemistry?

I hope you that science , religion , biology , chemistry are all modern inventions . Prior to the 17th century , these concepts had no names or definite descriptions . Instead , science (with Latin root ~scientia) and religion (Latin root ~ religio) were seen as intrinsic qualities or virtues of a person not as sources of knowledge , doctrines , practices . It was during the 19th century that science was being used to define the study of nature

So during those ancient times , like I said earlier , innovations were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . They didnt see as the study of nature like we in modern times see it as . They saw it as an expression of our inner qualities as humans .

Its through our modern understanding of science and religion that we understood that what was being practiced before the 17th century was scientific and what was being practiced was religious . And through that understanding , we can say that religion birthed science . Its all about the quest to find truth .

dalaman:


Religion did NOT give birth to science. Which religion gave birth to science and what part of the religious belief and doctrine was used in giving birth to science? Tell us pls.

Christianity gave birth to modern science . In fact , the founders of modern science were Christians . Plus according to studies , most scientific and technical innovations prior to the scientific revolution were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions . Even Buddhists say that science now is like their modernized beliefs . If you read Daniel Goleman's book with Dalai Lama you'd understand better .

Most of the scientific theories were gotten from ancient pagan ideas , modernized religious beliefs . Eg Evolution( first seen in the Mayan culture) , different models of the universe eg the cyclic universe (universe undergoes the Samsara ) etc

Like I said before , you pretend like you know but you don't. I pity people who pay attention to the odorous garbage you spew .

felixomor:

Saavy

Maezara:
Dumb.

What makes his comment dumb ?

butterflyl1on:


Kingebukasblog come and see o.

He says they have evidence

He says they have logic

He says they have critical reasoning

Saying they have critical reasoning of spiritual things is like saying a tailor has the critical reasoning of quantum mechanics

Saying they have evidence is like having air in your lungs yet trying to breath the air out into your palm and hold it there

Saying they have logic is like taking a one size fits all garment and claiming it belongs to you alone. So much delusion in your comment it makes my eyes tear up and then makes the tears from my eyes also tear up.

Never ever ever use square pegs to define round or hexagonal holes

This is why I refrained from responding to the question when the nigga be spewing atrocious nonsense like that

dalaman:
imaginary God to fight it's own battles.

If you cannot provide an alternative to God as the best explanation for why anything exists , then it is baseless , idiotic and shallow to call God imaginary .

Of course , I don't expect you to understand how this refutes your stance since you are an atheist .

butterflyl1on:


Don't mind that atheist Jingoist. I once told him that I did a background check on his profile and his early comments on nairaland and compared them to now and realised that he started sounding stupid right from the point he converted to atheism. His mental state dropped drastically. Now he makes comments in a zip zag, drunken manner which is evidence of his daily worsening confused state.

Just check his early comments on nairalanf and you would be shocked to realise that this is the same person now spewing all this mumuism everywhere and bragging about it too.

The guy has sold his sound mind for a plate of atheist porridge.

The last part got me rolling on the floor , you could tell that his condition keeps deteriorating everyday since he became an atheist.

Why would someone trade his sane mind for utter insanity? Atheism is really a disease . Even the great Plato knew this

dalaman:


How many reasonable thoughts and how much sense have you elicited since coming here on nairaland religion section?

Well enough to know that are you are ignorant and confused as an atheist