₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
Adults don't need protein? Are you kidding?

Don't you know our body absorbs protein from the atmosphere through our skin? Nairaland science 101.

Some ladies wil come and laugh at us now.

Make I hide face....

trust a opinions from twitter at your own peril

Aemmyjah:
The highlighted shows that it is wrong for me to keep arguing with someone that is holding onto 17th century belief
Keep typing nonsense.

Even a fake chatgpt or textbook written [b]today of won't call abiogenesis a fact[/b]
Keep shooting your shot all over the field and shouting goal

care to explain?

The list could be expanded... crazy thing about the world wars, is that scientists were on their A game....Will another war bring about another scientific revolution?

the guy game must be top notch. 👌

Sirtee15 dodging questions left and right....

jimmyvic:
What exactly should the poor masses do?

Hahaha.. kidnapping the rich.

pansophist:
You're right my bro.

Religion adds more complicated to it.

When I look at Nigeria from all angles, and With my knowledge of how a nation is suppose to run, I can't find redemption coming from anywhere.

The people ain't United, are corrupt, have no integrity, divided with religion and tribe, and even ego. Where would redemption even come from? Leaders are even the worse.

About integrity, you may organise a protest or even revolution, but a cheap idiot will go spill secret for some bribe, then take the country a century backward just for his greed.

Endsars was a good example. Bribes touts came to spoil it. The small cash they got is more better then the country's future.

What a country

Saw this just now... Especially her second post.

NL Christians, one of the most toxic group here... Weytin bring una come here again? 🤣 🤣 🤣

FRANCISTOWN:
Good evening everyone. A guy whose moniker is Jesusjnr2020 about 4 years ago said he will ensure to end atheism on NL.
I want to see how far he has gone.

Therefore, if you're an atheist , kindly signify. Let's see if atheism would really go into oblivion on this platform

I only know of a few atheists.

Seun
HopefulLandlord
LordReed
Jaephoenix
Knownunknown
TheSourcerer
Busybrain
1Sharon.
TakeNigeriaBack
Botragelad
Fourthpredator
Lorrayne
HardMirror
Hahn
SlawG
albreezy4eva
Muslim
Dominique
Mrbroke
EnemyofGod2
FRANCISTOWN(me, myself)

That makes it 21 of us and still counting.

✋✋✋

SIRTeee15:
Jesus couldn't have been God if he isn't the son of God. Do U get it now?

If only you'd read the text in the images you posted, you'd find that they actually support my post. I answered your Qs.. now answer mine from before.

pansophist:
Nigeria has gotten to she stage where if evil happens to you, others just see ita as your bad luck, and hope it doesn't happen to them. What kind of a country is that? Shame.

In addition, it's an an avenue to proclaim that they alone serve a living God. When 99 people out of 100 die, a typical Nigerian goes, "God thank for sparing me." Hence, the incentive to collectively solve the country's problem is not even there. Because, person A believes they serve God better and therefore deserve better things than person B.

"God, I will be the head and not the tail"

"God, let me be the one to bring my family out of poverty."

and so on.......



We are already at the level of "You don't need to be the fastest, you just have to out-run the next person"

After leadership, we need to wash the brain of every citizen with bleach--brainwash them.

sukkot:
lets goooooooooooooooo. drop all em nukes mayneee

You and who
When boys just start to dey tap $$$.... Na bro!!! Unless, you want take care of me and fam.

Sxyhalima:
I met a man, we have been dating for over a year and talking about marriage

Would you marry a man that was the perfect man for you, but his family wasn't good/his mother did not like you?

If he gives his mom half of his salary, then, that's not a strong-willed man, ma. Mums are very good at making you(I mean their sons) feel indebted to them, so they can keep you under their control. From what you say, the guy isn't in control of his own salary. Come on!

Plus, he might be good at hiding it, but, from experience, there are times when I wanted to make moves that my mom didn't agree with and ended up not going through with them because that emotional trojan horse still lingers. He could be wise enough to avoid scenarios that cause trouble between you and the mum, but to say, he'll cut off from her for your sake, is day-dreaming.

What makes you think he'll abandon his mother he feels made him who he is for you?

On your part, why are you bothered about being on good terms with the mum? From what I know, mums are always on the lookout for flaws in their daughter-in-law. I don't really understand why women want to so badly please their mom inlaws. is there some hierarchical shit going on behind the scenes that we, men, are oblivious to?

Somebody, educate me, please.

Mod:

You better up your own emotional manipulation games:
1) Let him know of your concerns and that he should remember that you, alone, have everything to lose if things don't work out along these lines.
2) Don't try to paint the mum in bad light. That always backfires. Instead, exploit his selfishness (it's a man thingy. ), and let him see how troubling it might be for his family (you and the future kids). And, you want him to be at his best, as he is the bedrock of the family.
3) Entice him with stuff like "The burden lies on you to break the yolk, and I will be there to support you all the way."
4) "I'm sorry I have to burden you with this, but please, it's a matter that can destroy the whole family if it's not settled. If you want it to be just me and you, fine. We'll see manage."
5) "Let's talk about this in two weeks time."

Something in that manner. Just don't paint the mum or his family in bad light. If possible, rope yourself into the drama. You too, come from home with mommy and daddy issues. and you want to cut off too.

It's what I would do anyway.

Now, this is a clear-cut case of gender inequality!!!

I really don't know why we as a society haven't normalized sex dolls and masturbation.

Kobojunkie:
A girl has a right to change the "goalpost" in the game as it is her body and her life. You decide for yourself whether that works for you or not. Saying one first has to be a virgin before one can desire a sexless relationship is inane. The same goes for boys.

Op. It should not matter whether you are a virgin or not for you to desire to be in a sexless relationship with anyone. It is your right and freedom to desire and demand whatever works for you in a relationship and only date those who are with you in your thinking.

Goalpost that was wide open for other people to score 3 points? When my turn reach, she now want to shift it? No na..... The best I can do is guarantee her life-long partnership. If she insists, then she can "bite" the hook of another fisherman.

Kobojunkie:
Carry Jesus, how?

On J-wagon.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

SIRTeee15:
<sub>Did Peter agree with Paul

2 Peter 3

Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


Did John agree with the gentiles regarding divinity of Christ.

1 John 4
This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html</sub>

Once, Jesus privately asked his apostles, “‘who do you say that I am?’ And Simon Peter answered, ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16.15-16).

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Peter 1.3)
“Through him you have come to trust in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope are set on God” (v. 21).

Some traditionalists cite the last clause in 2 Peter 1.1 to support that Peter believed Jesus was God. Nearly all English Bibles translate it as the New American Standard Bible (NASB) does, which reads, “of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.” One Person is in view, which calls Jesus “God.” But the King James Version (KJV) reads, “of God and our Savior Jesus Christ.” Two Persons are in view, so that Jesus is not called “God.”

This difference is due to a grammatical problem. Since soteros (Savior) in the Greek text is anarthrous (without the article), the question is whether the personal pronoun hemon (our) applies to theou (God), as in the NASB, or soteros, as in the KJV. J.N.D. Kelly says of this same issue in Titus 2.13, “‘Savior’ tended to be anarthrous (cf 1 Tim 1.1), and in any case the correct use of the article was breaking down in late Greek.”

The following internal evidence indicates that the two Persons rendering is correct:

(1) if Peter authored 1 and 2 Peter, he would not call Jesus “God” in 2 Peter 1.1 and inject confusion by distinguishing them in the next verse; (2) a similar compound title, “the/our Lord and Savior (Jesus Christ),” appears four times in this letter (2 Peter 1.11; 2.20; 3.2, 18), indicating that it had become a fixed formula that does not identify Jesus as God; (3) Peter would not have written “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” in 1 Peter 1.3 and then call Christ “God” here in 2 Peter 1.1.

In sum, Peter did not believe Jesus was God but that he was the Christ, the Savior, the obedient and subordinate servant of the sovereign and only God—the Father.
https://21stcr.org/oneness-pentecostalism-article/did-peter-believe-jesus-was-god/

Who is the Man behind 2 Peter 1?

2 Peter 1 is the first chapter of the Second Epistle of Peter in the New Testament of the Christian Bible. The author identifies himself as "Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ" and the epistle is traditionally attributed to Peter the Apostle, but some writers argue that it is the work of Peter's followers in Rome between the years 70 and 100. --------------------https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Peter_1

SIRTeee15:
I'm not here to discuss John 1.1 but what 2nd temple Judaism understand by the word logos in their language- Hebrew or Aramaic, not Greek or Latin.

I hope you know that logos can be used in different contexts. So, saying you don't want to discuss John 1:1 which is the only place the logos was used to designate Jesus as a manifestation of God, shocks me.

Now let's talk about the Aramaic bible called Targum, the same Aramaic bible used by Jesus in the 1st century AD.
Now in the Aramaic bible, whenever God appears in person, like when God appeared to Abraham or Moses, the term memra (Aramaic for "word" ) is often used instead of 'the LORD', especially when referring to a manifestation of God that could be construed as anthropomorphic.
E.g instead of saying 'The LORD appeared to Abraham', it will read 'memra (the word) appeared to Abraham'.
THAT IS LOGOS.
This showed the Jews believed in the manifestation of the 'WORD' appearing as a person and being God.

Interesting. I did find that the Aramaic bible you speak of were translations done in an attempt to revert the hebrew bible to Aramaic and not the first iterations of the bible as you insinuate.

Writing down the targum was initially prohibited; nevertheless, some targumitic writings appeared as early as the middle of the first century AD. They were not recognized as authoritative by the religious leaders. Some subsequent Jewish traditions (beginning with the Babylonian Jews) accepted the written targumim as authoritative translations of the Hebrew scriptures into Aramaic. Today, the common meaning of targum is a written Aramaic translation of the Bible. Only Yemenite Jews continue to use the targumim liturgically.
---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targum

<sub>This aramaic bible use of the word memra stem from the understanding of the Jews belief in what is the word of God. They understand it to be an active force proceeding from God with a life of it's own.

In the Targum, the Word or Memra is doing, being, and acting as God and yet we see that he is also with God, a distinct essence apart from Him.

And the Memra (Word) of the LORD said, ‘Let there be light’; and there was light by His Memra (Word). A (Genesis 1:1–3; Targum Neofiti)

In fact, the Memra is the one who rested after all his work:

“On the seventh day, the Memra of the LORD completed his work which he had created, and there was Sabbath.” (Genesis 2:3; Targum Neofit</sub>

In Hebrew, the places you mentioned used "Messenger of God."

This is the Christian understanding of TRINITY-
manifestation of God in more than one person. This evidence and belief is shared by old testament scriptures and 2nd temple Judaism. All this before anyone was ever called Christian.

The original Christians wouldn't understand what you're saying. They didn't know anything like Trinity. They mostly didn't speak Greek either, and mind you, LOGOS as seen in John 1:1 is purely a hellenized concept. Other instances of Logos tally with the hebrew equivalent of the word except in the case of John 1:1.

And this is the same JEWISH belief John wrote about in his gospel by letting us know memra became flesh and dwelt among us.
That is the origin of the concept, my friend, a deeply rooted Jewish belief from the Old Testament.
It wasn't any extrapolation from the Greek or Roman ideology.

Whoever wrote the book of John must have been schooled in Greek. There's a common consensus that Jesus if he understood Greek, spoke very little of it. The same goes for his disciples. Even though Judea, Galilee, where Jesus was born, was probably bilingual, the Jews generally didn't speak it.

Even Josephus, who was learned in Greek, made blunders when he was translating and had to call Romans to assist. Therefore, John, Peter, James, etc couldn't have understood what Logos meant as used in John 1:1.

If the Logos was something the Jews where conversant with, then it doesn't make sense that the Jewish preist, the disciples of jesus would doubt his claims, right?

You are arguing using the bible as bases of historical event when the bible itself is what we are trying to dissect. It's like using the testimony of an alleged thief to judge a case. No, Sirtee, that's not how arguments are done. Use external sources, please.

FYI, there's a difference between biblical scholars and theologians. The latter are not very different from your pastors. If you want clarity, seek the biblical scholars.

Being on Nairaland is already a good start. Kudos!

First, define what you mean by "successful." I want money, or I want to be successful is a very vague statement. Having defined what success means to you, then do a bit of soul searching---in Jesus' words, "Know thyself."

You need to identify your strengths and weaknesses. For example, Around 2015, I learned that most people can only study for 25 minutes straight before they begin to lose focus. I thought I was a genius but discovered I'm like most people. By this time, I was in the Uni---300 level specifically. My 200lvl CGPA had dropped from 4.00 to 3.79.

Knowing my weakness, I restructured my study technique to fit the 25-minute timeframe and boosted my GPA from 3.25 to 4.5. In fact, scoring A's got boring because it was too easy.

Still on "Know Thyself"

Do you have a clear understanding of who you are? This is essential because choosing a career based on personality will enrich your life experiences. Doing the opposite will leave you bitter about the profession you're trapped in, like most people.

Money is a tool, not your self-worth

See money as a tool to garner life experiences and not as a life experience itself. money is plain paper that only has value because two or more people believe in it. It's an abstract thing. Don't base your existence on it. Doing so will send you spiraling down the dreaded dungeons of depression.

Finding purpose

People with a sense of purpose tend to live more fulfilling lives. However, don't make the mistake of wanting to end world wars. Acknowledge that some things are within your control and others beyond. Do what you can to improve your aspect of life that you have the power to control and leave the rest for "God." If you spot a societal problem that you believe you can fix, please give it a try!

Set SMART goals

Don't say, "I want to be successful," instead say, "I want to earn Bleep amount by doing the Bleep job working with Bleep factory." Then, build a strategy to achieve your laid-out goals. SMART stands for Specific, measurable, Attainable, Relevant, and time-bound. Any goals you set must satisfy the SMART conditions.


Consume Information more than food

If there's anything that has saved me in this life, it is the amount of time I spent searching the internet for things like "How to be successful," "How to choose a career," and "What can I do with a biology degree?" and so on. Visit sites like Reddit for tips from the most educated folks on the planet. Read books, watch movies. The genre doesn't matter; just do so to expand your consciousness. Although, know when to 100% focus on work/school.

What skills do you have?

What natural talents do you have that can be monetized? Writing, Problem solving, Playing with the computer, and so on. Ensure that such skills are marketable. Go on Google and find out what others with similar skills are doing to make money.

Money is your self-worth

Yes, I know, contradictory! Knowing that money is just a tool doesn't stop others from judging you by your "appearance." People treat you differently based on their perception of your net worth. Therefore, present a demeanor that forces them to treat you with respect.

Be intelligently quiet

Being slow to speak and slow to anger is a trait that might catapult you to higher places. learn to be reserved but not too reserved. Being too timid will attract bullies. There are times when you put your intelligence or wealth on display. Know when to show off! Very important!

Build meaningful relationships

Get friends who value you as a person. people who see you as a business acquaintance will only make calculated sacrifices for you. In the future, they'll come back to collect in ten folds. A person who genuinely befriends you will help you in times of need because of friendship and not business. Be good to people. Tip the market women.

It must be hell, working men of the Nigerian Army. I've never seen anyone that impressed me. All those I've encountered had the demeanor of agberos/bullies/abusers/ that escaped the trenches.

I don't think I have anyone. I often follow them all.

JovialJune:
Tell me something I don't know

Explain to me how abstaining from sèx weed out bad men? What has the sexual organ got to do with human character/trait?

It's how bad men, who their virginity cannot be verified, entrap good women.

I hope this trends on Twitter..

SIRTeee15:
You are yet to answer one single question thrown at u. Just one
U came here with your bogus Greco-roman/European source for Christianity, but u can't defend it.
All u do is waffling and throwing empty words all over the place. Words u can't defend.
I wonder who is the comedian.

No, no, no! There's a stark difference between Europe's significant influence on today's Christianity and being the source of Christianity itself. You see, Christianity was no doubt formed by Jewish Christians. However, the doctrines and philosophy of Christianity differ greatly between the early Jews and would be later Gentiles.

Even during the times of the disciples, this difference was beautifully portrayed in the book of Galatians(https://www.bibleref.com/Galatians/2/Galatians-2-12.html), where there was a little squabble between Apst. Paul and Peter. You'll also find discrepancies like

There's no work without faith , versus all faith without works is useless.

The Jewish Christians do not also hold the notion that Jesus was anything remotely close to a deity—even those who did saw Jesus as lesser than Adonai. The Gentiles were the ones who equated Jesus Christ with God and formed the Holy Trinity. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia on the man who coined the word "Trinity." Take note of the parts I have bolded for you. Hopefully, you see how the influence of one can sway the minds of many. Also, he is of African origin but was raised under the Romanian empire. Therefore, he thinks like a roman. This is very important.

Tertullian is often considered an early proponent of the Nicene doctrine, approaching the subject from the standpoint of the Logos doctrine, though he did not state the later doctrine of the immanent Trinity. In his treatise against Praxeas, who taught patripassianism in Rome, he used the words "trinity," "economy" (used in reference to the three persons), "persons," and "substance," maintaining the distinction of the Son from the Father as the unoriginate God, and the Spirit from both the Father and the Son (Adv. Praxeam, xxv).

As you can see from the last statement, he first distinguished the persons of the Godhead. This was not derived from biblical scripture but the incorporation of Romanian philosophy into Christianity. The Roman scholars were very philosophical and were at their prime during this era. So, it's no surprise they were trying to make sense of chrisitian mysticsm.

Tertullian predated the Nicene creed, of course. In fact, his writings influenced the doctrines of the church fathers who argued against the heresy of Arius. Again, not that the Roman-influenced church fathers were also trying to make sense of Christian mysticism. All these doctrines weren't held by the likes of Peter, James, and early disciples of Christ—even Apst. Paul didn't equate Jesus with God. Note, the books of Hebrews weren't written by Apst. Paul. That's where the Gentile-like philosophy slipped into Judeo-Christianity.

I repeat my question in case u pretend not to see it
Tell me what the second temple Jews regard as Logos.
Waiting for your answer.

I'm not sure. I had to look this up. I suspect you mean logos in the sense used in John 1:1?

Logos is translated from Dabar, which meant "'word', 'talk' or 'thing'" in Hebrew.

There's no Jewish concept of Logos in the sense that we use it today. At least, non in the bible bar John 1;1. Probably hellenistic jews?

So, no, the Jews didn't know anything called Logos. Logos is entirely an element of Greek philosophy. See below:

The Greek philosopher Heraclitus appears to be the first to have used logos to refer to a rational divine intelligence, which today is sometimes referred to in scientific discourse as the "mind of God."

The Greek translator, filled with Roman bias, used that bias to translate the Book of John into something it was not meant to be. If you mean logos in the sense that God's ideas come to life, then sure. That's what the writer of John intended.

How do Gentiles see Jesus as the Messiah? Do they believe he's the anointed one who will establish the kingdom of God here on earth by defeating Israel's enemies?

How would I now? Didn't the gentiles also see Zeus, thor, and so on as gods? The same way.

If they believe he's the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament, then why are they not following the mosaic laws.

Anyone can believe anything, Sirtee. It's you who denies the European influence of christianity that should answer this question.

Why is there contention btw the Jewish Christians and gentiles regarding FF the law of Moses.

Same response as above. Anyway, let me help you small. They have different schools of thought. Incase, you want to mumble up that nonsense about Christ tarnishing the old law, I hope you know that was just Paul's way of getting the Gentiles to join Christianity. The likes of Peter, James, JOhn, etc, never did away with the old testament. Why? The new testament hadn't even being written bruv?

How did Paul present messianic claim of Jesus to the gentiles? What was he anointed for and what is the Kingdom of God he established.

I wasn't there to know exactly what Paul preached. However, here's a clue for you: Paul was educated in the ways of the Romans. After all, he was half a Roman citizen, was he not? I don't know what kingdom of God you're talking about. Where is it on the map?

I will advise u pick a bible and read the book of acts and Romans then come back to debate me.

I am not incentivized to read the bible anymore. It serves no purpose in my life right now other than for arguments. But, I can easily get summaries from Youtube or scholarly dissertations from the likes of Dan Mclean on Tiktok, who's a award-winning bible scholar for the work he's done on tiktok.

Maynman:
How come Gentiles have no doubt Jesus is the Messiah but they still couldn't grasp the relevance of messianic references, how did they arrive that he is a "Messiah", what references did they use before?
And this Gentiles were the one living in Rome or Alexandria abi? 😂

Christians and comedy

Unfortunately, the breed of Christians here is very different from those about 9 years ago. Unfortunately, I was but a little kid then... It would have been great going back and forth with Muttleylaff, and the likes now...Even though them too get their own koskos... but, at least those ones where very knowledgable of the bible. Good old days. Used to enjoy reading them.. Especially how they were flowing Sarassin up and down..hahah

kimco:
I just realized who I am chatting with. I will end it here thank You.

Duyt1798:
Hi guys!

I hope this my post gets to the FP, so I can get insights from a wider audience; even I know some might not make sense, but one thing I've learnt from the short time I joined this platform, is that - sense dey inside nonsense.

Pardon me, my write fit dey a bit lengthy.

I currently work with a multi-national startup coy. My net pay is a bit above 400k naira (this's at the moment), I've worked for about 2 years. I'm married with two kids and expecting the third.

Now my dilemma is that, I've not been able to save up funds, I feel like my living condition doesn't reflect what I earn. Shingbai like this, I no get for account. The last I could remember, I go deep hand for forex, e nearly give me hypertension (I lost about 2m). I still dey pay debt wey I incur as a result.

Now where I need assistance is, looking at the amount I'm earning, how do I spend? Please for those that will be kind enough to give suggestions, let it practically explained, as in help me break am down to the amount wey I suppose spend, how I suppose spend am, and wetin I suppose save.

I believe say many family people dey here wey get better experiences.

Thanks 🙏.

Na lagos or Kaduna u dey? Your story looks very similar to one i was told last year. Especially the 2m gamble part..

if it were me, nd baby no.3 is still an embryo,... hmmm.......

Gerrard59:
Ta! He would not have an erection again. He would not produce semen. He would not be a man. He would not produce the testosterone hormone again. And many more.

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Our people think it is fun to have children. They forget these children have to be raised for at least 25 years using the Nigerian system. For the next 25 years, they are spending on three people to be responsible human beings. I don't know why they think having children is fun. The koko is in raising children.

After two like this, I don lock up! I did not come into this world to raise children. In fact, I look forward to creating a thread of my vasectomy experience when the time comes.

Ah!! Erection don tire you abi😂😂😂