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DrLiveLogic:
Soon: Look! Up in the sky, riding on clouds. It's son of Man, it's son of God, it's, it's.....the Logos!!

We all prolly saw the movie Spiderman back in, guess '02, featuring Toby McGuire as Spidey cum Peter Parker. Now if at any point in the movie you saw Toby, you wouldn't call him Toby but Peter when human and Spidey when he transforms. Yet the truth remains whether Spidey or Peter, he would in reality always be Toby. Obvious?

##Toby(Logos)- Peter(Son of Man)-Spidey(Son of God)##

Well it seems so many have trouble grasping this simple fact in the realities of the universe. There is the One who before creation was simply called the Logos, who created the universe but remained hidden from creation in the Father's bosom, John 1:18, until the time to act His role in creation came. What role was he to act? The Son of God. So we can title this real life movie being acted during the time span of creation: "Son of God". But just as for Toby to act Spidey, he must first act as Peter, so the Logos must first act Son of Man before transforming to Son of God.
As son of Man/Adam, he is an unblemished Adam, free from the fall, being formed from his divine Logos-substrate which generated his pure blood type, hence had to come through a virgin. Yet the omnipotence in his Logos-substrate was kept sealed up only to be unveiled if he passed the test of pure sacrificial obedience that Adam failed. In this state, his full divine abilities were therefore sealed up and he only experienced his divine nature and attributes, hence less than the Father, depending on Him. After he passed the test, he was then resurrected by the unlocking of his omnipotence in his Logos-substrate inside him and became the Son of God, Romans 1:4
As Son of God, he now was set free from his limitations as son of Man, having his full omnipotence of his Father unleashed from his Logos-substrate, lacking nothing found in the Father and is the full representation/image of the Father. However, even as Son of God having full privileges with God, he is still less than the Father. Why? Because this is simply a role he came to take for the creation, Adam, so that through him, all in Adam can experience full privileges of the Godhead. Through his union with all men, i.e. Him being in them and taking over every part, they experience this same state of Son of God. Hence son of God is for the creature not for the creator and the position is subject under the Godhead. The Logos is only helping man to achieve what he could never in his own ability.
This was God's destiny for Adam, to be a son of God/image of God. God who calls things that aren't yet as though they are already said to Adam "You are gods, all sons of Elyon..." as per Adam's destiny which was yet to be realised but unfortunately Adam failed to fulfill this, God says "...but you will die just as a Man", Psalm 82:6. So God Himself had to come help Man become God. Who else could make men experience being God but God Himself. No angel could give man that experience as they've never had it but only the Logos. It's His part in the real life movie.
However, He is still ultimately and always was the Logos and as Logos, not only has equal privileges with the Father but is equal with the Father, neither being the greater or less, first before the other, but both equally First and Last, Alpha and Omega, Revelation 1:11

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The Almighty will reveal greater things to you, IJN.
Thanks so much for the post.

Even the 8 men in New York (they call them GB) know that Jesus is the true God.

Maximus69:
I think you already have your own mind regarding what and who to preach, i only came in to air my own opinion on the topic, but if you feel you're OK with what you know presently then you and i should continue practicing our Christianity based on our understanding! Revelations 22:11

God bless you Sir!

You see?, 1 of my reasons for tagging you is to hear/note MAXIMUS' SIDE as your signature reads and I will KNOWMORE.


QUESTIONS:


1. who are the people expected to do good deeds (charity work) and to who?

Note: weather Matthew 25:40 is figurative or not, the above question is still relevant to it.

2. Which of the following is false?:


1. NOBODY IS SAVED (DECLARED FREE
FROM GOD'S ANGER) THROUGH GOOD
DEEDS:Acts 10: 1-5;


2. THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL IS
TO BE DONE BY HUMAN BEINGS NOT
BY ANGELS: Acts 10 :30-32;

3. THERE'S NO PARTIALLY WITH GOD,
Acts 10:34-35:

4. THE GOSPEL PREACHING IS AS OLD AS THE WORLD: Acts 10 :43

Note ! Gospel means

John 3:16

G= God
O= Only
S= Son
P= PERISH
E= Everlasting
L= Life

i.e GOD ONLY SON PERISH ( that humanity should have) EVERLASTING LIFE.

11. PAUL AND BARNABAS IN ANTIOCH OF PISIDIA:

*. Acts 13:23 "KJV:Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a SAVIOUR, JESUS:

24
KJV:When JOHN HAD FIRST PREACHED BEFORE HIS COMING the baptism of repentance to all THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

27
KJV:For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because THEY KNEW HIM NOT, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, THEY HAVE FULFILLED THEM IN CONDEMNING HIM.

28
KJV:And though THEY FOUND NO CAUSE OF DEATH IN HIM, yet desired they Pilate THAT HE SHOULD BE SLAIN.

29
KJV:And when THEY HAD FULFILLED ALL THAT WAS WRITTEN OF HIM, THEY TOOK HIM DOWN from the tree, AND LAID HIM IN A SEPULCHRE.

30
KJV: BUT GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD:


NOTE:

...SAVIOUR, JESUS:...
JOHN HAD FIRST PREACHED BEFORE HIS COMING...THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL....
THEY KNEW HIM NOT,...

THEY HAVE FULFILLED THEM IN CONDEMNING HIM.
...THEY FOUND NO CAUSE OF DEATH IN HIM,... THAT HE SHOULD BE SLAIN.

...THEY HAD FULFILLED ALL THAT WAS WRITTEN OF HIM, THEY TOOK HIM DOWN,... AND LAID HIM IN A SEPULCHRE.

BUT GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD:

The above is what is called preaching of the gospel!


EFFECT/RESULT OF THE PREACHING

42 "KJV:And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, THE GENTILES BESOUGHT THAT THESE WORDS MIGHT BE PREACHED TO THEM THE NEXT SABBATH.

43
KJV:Now when the congregation was broken up, MANY OF THE JEWS AND RELIGIOUS PROSELYTES FOLLOWED PAUL AND BARNABAS: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

44
KJV:And THE NEXT SABBATH DAY CAME ALMOST THE WHOLE CITY TOGETHER TO HEAR THE WORD OF GOD.

48
KJV:And WHEN THE GENTILES HEARD THIS, THEY WERE GLAD, AND GLORIFIED THE WORD OF LORD: and AS MANY AS WERE ORDAINED TO ETERNAL LIFE BELIEVED.

10. THOSE DISCIPLES WHO WERE SCATTERED THROUGH PERSECUTIONS:


*. Acts 11:19 "KJV:Now THEY which WERE SCATTERED ABROAD UPON THE PERSECUTION that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.

20
KJV:And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, PREACHING THE LORD JESUS.

EFFECT OF THE PREACHING:

21
KJV:And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a GREAT NUMBER BELIEVED, AND TURNED UNTO THE LORD.

Halleluiah!!..

Maximus69:
The Bible book of Matthew 25:31-46 is an illustration (Parable) that needs to be fully understood. So it's not about literal charity works Sir!

Jesus is not here physically but there is a GROUP of anointed men that he is using to shepherd his earthly followers today, everyone need to know them and WORK with them, failure to recognize them can make us to either engage in things not supporting Jesus' work or outrightly opposing them!
Either way Jesus will come and tell those who failed to acknowledge them "i never knew you, go away from me you workers of iniquity" Matthew 7:23}
Note that the workers of iniquity also thought they're working for Jesus {Matthew 7:21-22} but it's misdirected zeal!

Do I have to wait till Armageddon comes before I get answers to my questions?

Which of the below is false?
1.
NOBODY IS SAVED (DECLARED FREE
FROM GOD'S ANGER) THROUGH GOOD
DEEDS:Acts 10: 1-5;


2. THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL IS
TO BE DONE BY HUMAN BEINGS NOT
BY ANGELS: Acts 10 :30-32;

3. THERE'S NO PARTIALLY WITH GOD,
Acts 10:34-35:

4. THE GOSPEL PREACHING IS AS OLD AS THE WORLD: Acts 10 :43

Note ! Gospel means

John 3:16

G= God
O= Only
S= Son
P= PERISH
E= Everlasting
L= Life

i.e GOD ONLY SON PERISH ( that humanity should have) EVERLASTING LIFE.

Just quietly consider

"THE TEMPLE OF GOD"

"THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY GHOST" and

"THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD"

the HOLY GHOST is not an idol god o!

but THE LIVING GOD!

Janosky, why are you like this, huh?

17. FATHER/SON/HOLY GHOST HAS OUR BODY AS HIS TEMPLE:

*. 1 Corinthians 3:16 "KJV:Know ye not that YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwelleth in you?"

...YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD,...THE
SPIRIT OF GOD...

*. 1 CORINTHIANS 6:19 "KJV:What? know ye not that YOUR BODY IS THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY GHOST which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

... YOUR BODY IS THE TEMPLE OF
THE HOLY GHOST...

*. 2 CORINTHIANS 6:16 "KJV:And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

...YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE
LIVING GOD;...


All these 1 - 17 Biblical evidences that 1×1×1=1✓ ; yet Janosky won't believe.

Let's check Romans 9:5;

*. "KJV:Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh CHRIST came, WHO IS OVER ALL, GOD BLESSED FOR EVER. Amen.

Note:
CHRIST WHO IS OVER ALL, GOD BLESSED FOR EVER. Amen.!!....

Janosky, what do you have to say about this?

AntiChristian:
1. Who was Jesus crying to on the cross?

2. Who said "This is my son in whom i'm well pleased'?

3. Who was Jesus constantly praying to while on earth?

4. In which language is "son" having the same meaning as "father"?

5. Jesus said he was going to his father. Does this mean he was going to himself?

6. "In my father's house there are many mansions..." Why not "in my house there are many mansions"...?

All these questions will be answered if you will accept Jesus as the son of God who died for you,

and resurrected the 3rd day for your justification.

delkuf:
You know the mistake you are making you are conceptualizing the Lord Jesus Christ when he was here on earth and when who he is in heaven. The Lord Jesus Christ had to leave everything he is in heaven and came to earth to the die for us. The Lord Jesus Christ here on earth, is subject to death and pain, but the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven is God. Please listen, when Adam and Eve sinned, the way to pay the price for our sins is that someone a human that has never sin, would die on the cross. No man on earth was qualify for this task. So God had to send his own son for this task. And for the Lord Jesus Christ to be able to undergo this task, he must come to earth as a human being. That means, he will be able to be nailed to the cross. So the Lord Jesus Christ that is son of God in heaven and as a son of God he is God, came to earth as a human being and die for the sins of man. So the Lord Jesus Christ here on earth can be killed, but the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven is divine. He is God

Thanks for the message.If he can accept Jesus into his life he'll understand better.

AntiChristian:
So while on the cross he was calling himself Eli Eli Eli lamasabachtani...My God My God why have you forsaken me?

And during Jesus' Baptism by John, it was Jesus talking from heaven saying "This is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased"

Alhamdulillah for the gift of Islam.

1st of all accept Jesus as the son of God who died for your sin.

Janosky:
False claims.
Does Achorladey belong to his biological father ?
Is Achorladey a member of his Father's family?
Is his Father's family a Group?

MUMU KNOWMORES no know say family Na
Organization
Achorladey and KNOWMORE, continue to DECEIVE YOURSELVES & console YOURSELVES

If Jesus Christ comes down from heaven to read the relevant Bible passages to you, UNA go tell am say UNA KNOWMORE......


John 9:4, WE must do the work of the One who sent me"
"WE" (Jehovah's Servants) working in Jehovah's Organization led by Jehovah God who sent them.

John 7:16 "What I teach belongs to my God who sent me"
1 Corinthians 3:23,


Matthew 23:10-11 & Hebrews 13:17, Acts 2:42-46, does leadership exists in a vacuum ?

Achorladey & KNOWMORE want to write their own Bible by fire by force.

Mumu KNOWMORES .

"MUMU KNOWMORES no know say family Na
Organization..."

You know what your organization always ask us,

'were is the word Trinity found in the scriptures?'

I return similar question to you



'were is the word organization found in the scriptures?'

Maximus69:
I don't understand what you are driving at but all i'm saying is "if this has to do with Jesus' brothers, it's not the way you're taking it, they're not beggars neither did they need material things from anyone to survive, what they need to be happy and feel satisfied in life is to see the preaching and teaching work progressing in all lands"

" I DON'T UNDERSTAND what you are driving at..."


Remember that you said Matthew 25:40 is the new gospel.

And it is acknowledging Jesus' brothers for one's salvation.

But the verses are talking about charity works and its benefits.

Question:

Is your organization a charity organization?

Please, I'll like to know the answer.
Thanks.

Maximus69:
I don't understand what you are driving at but all i'm saying is "if this has to do with Jesus' brothers, it's not the way you're taking it, they're not beggars neither did they need material things from anyone to survive, what they need to be happy and feel satisfied in life is to see the preaching and teaching work progressing in all lands"

Question:

Which of the following lessons are not in agreement with the Bible?


1.
A. NOBODY IS SAVED (DECLARED FREE
FROM GOD'S ANGER) THROUGH GOOD
DEEDS:Acts 10: 1-5;


2. . THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL IS
TO BE DONE BY HUMAN BEINGS NOT
BY ANGELS: Acts 10 :30-32;

3. THERE'S NO PARTIALLY WITH GOD,
Acts 10:34-35:

4. THE GOSPEL PREACHING IS AS OLD AS THE WORLD: Acts 10 :43

Note ! Gospel means

John 3:16

G= God
O= Only
S= Son
P= PERISH
E= Everlasting
L= Life

i.e GOD ONLY SON PERISH ( that humanity should have) EVERLASTING LIFE.

Maximus69, I actually have a lot of questions for you.

I posted reasons I learned from the event in cornelius house.

Which of the lessons ( A - E) is false?

They call their Maker Michael....
Na wa oo

achorladey:
Titus 2: 11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

15 Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

Awesome grace of God!

But, are you sure someone will not post that
the grace of God means organization of Jehovah?

Maximus69:
A humble learner doesn't dictate the tune for the one you're asking questions if truthfully you want to know, remember we're chatting on what you and i believe and the difference there of, so it's not as if you're interrogating a common criminal where you'll be dictating how he/she must respond!




(1) Jesus' brothers only needed the assistance of others as in more hands to accomplish their huge task, so those who willingly {Psalms 110:3 } offer themselves to work with them will also be helped to become clean themselves spiritually! Daniel 12:10

(2) The feeding, sickness, clothing and others mentioned @ Matthew 25:31-46 aren't to be taking literally, remember Jesus started by saying "separate the sheep from the goats" so it's not about literal hospitality but spiritual, we must understand this from the perspective of Jesus himself, remember he never gave any beggar a dime neither did go searching sick people!
When Paul was imprisoned, it was his fellow believers that were coming to visit him Sir!

I'm not dictating the to you, I only want to clearly understand what you are saying.


Those who will offer you clothes and shoes and other things are saved i.e their sins are forgiven them for your sake?

ochibuogwu5:
GRACE FROM JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED:
"I again saw under the sun that the race is not to the swift and the battle is not to the strong, and neither is bread to the wise nor riches to those of intelligence and understanding nor favor to men of ability; but time and chance overtake them all."
(Ecclesiastes 9:11)

It is only the *grace* from Jesus Christ Crucified that will position you to be at the right place and at the right time.
For every assignment, any human being must execute on this earth; there is a *consignment of grace* for you to perform such responsibility/service without trying to struggle through your human capabilities which are always insufficient resources.

Pray for grace from Jesus Christ Crucified to execute whatever assignment you have to perform on this earth *apart from your human abilities* or you will live throughout this earthly journey *struggling*
If you are offered wealth(mammon) for execution of any earthly assignment; it will kill you physically and spiritually yet you will not achieve that work.

If you seek mercy to receive grace from Jesus Christ Crucified without any material resources for a particular assignment; grace will bring all the resources and you will accomplish that assignment effortlessly.

Grace does not reduce the holiness standard of God from 100% to 99.9999% for anybody whether a Christian or non-christian; anointed/ordained Christian leaders or those who think or have been made to believe that they are less anointed Christian but grace is the help from God to enable any human being who believes in Jesus death on the Cross and resurrection to have *the capacity and life of Christ* to be able to live up to and operate in obedience to the 100% holiness standard of God effortlessly on this earth consistently and progressively till biological death or rapture of the Saints just like Jesus Christ while He lived in the human body on earth which means it is Jesus (grace and truth; John 1:14) that is living through the mortal-bodies of any genuine believer on this earth (Titus 2:11-12) yet you are still a human being with a free-will and still has emotions that recognises the enticements of sin, lust, corruption and evil but does not sin in thoughts, words or deeds.

Grace is superior to gold(money/intelligence/mammon).
Grace is the currency of Heaven
Money(mammon) is the currency of this world

"Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, *let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear*: for our God is a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:28-29 KJV)

"For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." (Romans 9:15-16 KJV)

"Let us therefore *come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need*."
(Hebrews 4:16 KJV)

"And the Word (Christ) became flesh, and lived among us; and we [actually] saw His glory, glory as belongs to the [One and] only begotten Son of the Father, [the Son who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, who is] *full of grace and truth (absolutely free of deception)*. 15 John testified [repeatedly] about Him and has cried out [testifying officially for the record, with validity and relevance], “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I and has priority over me, for He existed before me.’” 16 For out of *His fullness [the superabundance of His grace and truth] we have all received grace upon grace [spiritual blessing upon spiritual blessing, favor upon favor, and gift heaped upon gift*]. 17 For the Law was given through Moses, but *grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ*." (John 1:14-17 amp)

Grace,
Your Grace alone is all I plead for,
Grace to serve thee aright Lord Jesus Christ Crucified,
Oh Grace to love you more. Amen.
Declaring and Singing.........(praying for mercy and grace from Jesus Christ Crucified, Resurrected and Glorified should be every second prayer of a genuine believer)

Great Grace Brethren!!!

I so much love
'grace is the help from God to enable any human being who believes in Jesus death on the Cross and resurrection to have *the capacity and life of Christ* to be able to live up to and operate in obedience to the 100% holiness standard of God effortlessly on this earth consistently and progressively till biological death or rapture of the Saints just like Jesus Christ while He lived in the human body on earth'

achorladey:
Christ will not look for any GROUP


1 Corinthians 3:23 Christ belong to God.

Christ don't belong to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION

You will never see a scripture that states CHRIST BELONG to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION. Na the GBEMU you dey drink

That's true...

achorladey:
Maximus69: indirectly they're saying I don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself"

Achorladey: I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. 27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him

Hope you can see that Maximus69 aka Jehovah and Jesus who can erase people's past and present into the future .

Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Christ promise to be with his disciples throughout the ages. Matthew 28: 20.

He also says that they (FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST) are going to live/inhabit the one who loves HIM

*. John 14:23 "KJV:Jesus answered and said unto him, IF A MAN LOVE ME, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.

Note!
'IF A MAN' this is showing that it is individual matter!

Maximus69:
@KNOWMORE56

Any further question?

Just know that this is not about perfection of worshipers as most people expects, it's all about OBEDIENCE to those taking the lead in the midst of God's people! Hebrew 13:7,17

Once this quality is found in anyone, God erases the person's presently state, since he/she is humble God is looking forward to what the person will become in the future, that's why Jesus could say to a condemned criminal "truly i tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise" {Luke 23:43} surely Jesus wasn't interested in what the person is in the past, neither his present state but in what he will become in the future since he's now prepared to OBEY Jesus as King {Luke 23:42 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3}
The problem most people have with God's arrangement is the ability to humble themselves and learn what is righteosness, rather they feel it is OK as they're doing their best in what they know as good deeds {Luke 18:18-23 compare to Romans 10:2-4} whereas they don't belong to any specific religious group, indirectly they're saying "i don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself" yet they'll be here and there trying to correct others, OK how can we ascertain the standard all of us should subscribe to? After all there are thousands of religions with different doctrines, arrogant people will never find any group to present because they don't want to humble themselves under any arrangement!

it's all about OBEDIENCE to those taking the lead in the midst of God's people!

You have not been able to give quality characteristics of anything.

The Bible says follow/pursue/ensure PEACE with ALL men, and HOLINESS without this no person will see the Lord.

*. Hebrews 12: 14 "
KJV:Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Each group (good or bad) are obedience to their leaders.

Even Buhari's subjects are obedience to him.

YE MUST BE HOLY FOR I AM HOLY is the difference.

*. 1 Peter 1:15 "KJV:But as he which hath called you is holy, so BE YE HOLY IN ALL MANNER OF CONVERSATION;

16
KJV:Because it is written, BE YE HOLY; FOR I AM HOLY.

Maximus69:
You need not be offended by the truth, Jesus knew very well what will happen if Satan is let on the loose to attack his followers {Luke 18:8} that's why Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" {Matthew 7:20} because Satan will gather his own agents and they will also claim Christians, since they're weeds they will outnumbered the fine seed of Jesus, the farmers and botanists will understand this better. Matthew 13:25

So why do you and your cohorts failed to realize this facts? Well it's because you people are carried away with GIFTS of the spirit instead of concentrating on the FRUIT!

There are trees in the forest that have the same or similar GIFTS, for instance a tree may have tick branches, big and shady leaves, smooth body, beautiful flowers and so on but it's FRUIT may not be edible it might even be poisonous!

Likewise all worship involves Spirits, you'll find books inspired by spirits, signs and wonders, singers and fine music, huge worship centers, beautiful paintings and designs, nice and wicked people in all religions due to the imperfect state of man, these are the GIFTS you will find in all the religions on this planet.

But what about the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit?
Well there is just one single tree that can bear this one "the tree that's planet by the true God himself" {John 15:1} Jesus is that tree, so no matter how Satan tries to corrupt it there will always be friction because that's where the spirit of truth dwells {John 14:17} therefore the good tree can never bear routine fruit neither can the evil tree bear good fruit! Matthew 7:16-18

You'll notice that Jesus never referred to what we will use to recognize the truth as FRUITS in plural but FRUIT as in singular, the reason is because the fruit is just one but having nine tastes (qualities) LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} no human can have all these qualities because we are imperfect, but the tree (Jesus) that God planted has it all, so the GROUP that Jesus is working with {Matthew 28:20} will produce it all not individually but as an organization!

That's why the world today can see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization as if the tallest mountain that can't be hidden! Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

You may be wondering why is it that we don't go about with religious titles neither do we claim i'm Born Again (even though they're in our midst) yet when it comes to the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit, 99.9% of the world's population are looking forward to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matthew 5:13

Your errors come from believing the the GB.

By the way, heavenly race is individual choice/decision.

Not collective!

Maximus69:
Just ask the questions and wait for the answers my friend, remember you accused JWs that we often run away from your questions!

Well there are two sets of Christians according to Jesus himself, the first are the little flock {Luke 12:32} ~ Jesus will teach them how to organize his earthly subjects and prepare them for his coming Kingdom, they will rule with Jesus in heaven so since they're humans they need to be transformed into spirit beings, that's why they must have the same kind of baptism like Jesus Water and Spirit {John 3:5-6 compare with Matthew 3:13-16} This is the group Jesus will deal with directly as King and they will serve as district kings under Jesus the King of kings their number is 144,000! Revelations 7:5-8, 14:1-4, 20:4-6
According to the Revelations Jesus revealed to John that they will come first so they're the first in the arrangement before the rest that Jesus referred to as the other sheep {John 10:16} in the first century some Christians who didn't know this died due to their ignorance, they thought all Christians must be Born Again as they're seeing Jesus' brothers partaking in the eating and drinking of the emblem of covenant! 1Corinthians 11:27-30

So that's the story my guy, we have over 8.7 M followers of Christ working with the real BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ today, it's you and your cohorts that don't understand any of these secrets, that's why you're all divided amongst yourselves {Luke 11:23} and you can never be Jesus' true followers, if i should ask you now to mention the name of your church, you'll start arguing that you belong to Christ whereas there are over 41,000 different religions having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians, but it's only JWs that you are trying to argue with even when there is no agreement amongst you, all these is because you're neither humble nor obedient like true sheep! Hebrew 13:7,17

There's no division in the kingdom of God.

The GB are living a better (i.e more comfortable) life than you on earth and are wishing themselves the same hereafter.

Words like 'whoever', 'all'... found in the Bible cancelled all the things you said/posted.

*. Revelation 22:17 "KJV:And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the water of life freely.

*. Mark 13: "KJV:And what I say unto you I say unto ALL, Watch."

in the kingdom of God, nobody tells his neighbor what to do, everyone knows what to do.

*. Jeremiah 31:34
KJV:And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: FOR THEY SHALL ALL KNOW me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

my God says were He is, there I shall be also...

Unlike the GB Who are greedy, self-centered and discriminating.

*. John 14:3 "KJV:And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that WHERE I AM, THERE YE MAY BE ALSO.

Maximus69:
So Mr KNOWMORE56, any further question?

I'm a humble learner (by the grace of God ), I want to KNOWMORE.

So, stop being ambiguous in giving answers to my questions.

What I'm saying is that, if answers to my questions are yes, say/post yes; if it is no, say/post No.

What are answers to these questions


1. Hospitality: is it to be done by sinners to Jesus' brothers for salvation?

Or hospitality should come from the saved to sinners and saints for reward?

2. If you or anyone in your group is sick or in prison, all the sinners that will pay them visit are saved (i.e their sins are forgiven them?

achorladey:
the same person that was asked is the ORGANIZATION that he belongs to a charity organization? He said NO! When shown that the ORGANIZATION is a charitable organization, Mr Maximus69 kept mute.

You begin to wonder why is he not aware of it. Its because they always lambast the charity works of other denominations. In essence making their members orientation towards charity work done by others as FILTHY.

I see that many of the things they condemn in other groups they have it in themselves.

Only and always trying to condemn others in order to stay relevant.

But they have failed.

achorladey:
since you want him to borrow questions from my post, then attend to the questions. Instead of waiting for him to borrow. After all what will be borrowed is same thing. Hahahaha

abi...!

achorladey:
here comes Jehovah and Jesus aka Maximus69 who knows that billions are GOATS and these Goats are the ones claiming christians. Hahahahahaha

Lol

E. THE HOLY GHOST BAPTISM IS FOR ALL BELIEVERS IN CHRIST: Acts 10:44,

*. Acts 10:44 "
KJV:While Peter yet spake these words, THE HOLY GHOST FELL ON ALL them which heard the word.

*. Acts 2:39 "
KJV:For THE PROMISE IS unto you, and to your children, and TO ALL that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

NOTE!

THE HOLY GHOST FELL ON ALL;

THE PROMISE IS TO ALL!

Halleluiah!!! .... the promise of HOLY GHOST baptism is for me!

The GB said it is not for Janosky and Maximus69.

They are not Christians.

Maximus69:
Good morning!

What exactly is your question regarding Christ's brothers?

-: What you are saying is 'if you or Janosky are sick, all the people who will visit you in the hospital are saved'


-: 'if you or Janosky are naked, all the people who will give you clothes are saved'....

By the way, you said you were a soldier.

Do you know what is called the last command?

Christians have the Master's last command.

*. Mark 16:15 "KJV:And he said unto them, GO YE into all the world, AND PREACH THE GOSPEL to every creature.

GO YE AND PREACH THE GOSPEL
this is the Master' last command.

The gospel is not GO TO HOSPITAL AND VISIT JWs (assuming they're the Jesus' brothers)

Maximus69:
You asked me to quote a verse where it's written that acknowledging Jesus' brothers will lead one to salvation, and i quoted Matthew 25:40

So what exactly is your next question?

I have given you the detail explanation of the Matthew 25:40.

See it below and the question that follows:

ximus69, in
Matthew 25: 38-42;
The summary of the verses is
Jesus' commending hospitality
and condemning hostility.
questions for you about Matthew 25: 38-42;


Question:

Who are the people that are expected:
- to go to hospital and visit the sick,
- give clothes to the naked,
- give food to the hungry and
- give water to the thirsty?

Options:
a. Jesus' brothers to their brothers/sisters.
b. Jesus' brothers to all around them.
c. sinners to Jesus' brothers.
d. non of the above.
e. all of the above.


NOTHING IN THESE VERSES THAT SAYS ACKNOWLEDGE JESUS' BROTHERS FOR ONE'S SALVATION!

....
*. Acts 3:21 "KJV:Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which GOD HATH SPOKEN BY THE MOUTH OF ALL HIS HOLY PROPHETS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN.

Note!
it is ALL HIS HOLY PROPHETS not SOME OF HIS...

This story (Jesus death, burial and resurrection) is the summary of all the things that Moses (i.e the law) wrote.

This is the reason for the event at Mount of transfiguration. Matthew 17:1-10

Moses (represents the laws) and Elijah (represents all the prophets),

they appeared to certify that Jesus is the subject matter.

The gospel started in the garden of Eden. Genesis 3:15,21.

'The seed of the woman' is fulfilled in Jesus being the seed of Mary (the woman).