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Maximus69:
If we're explaining the scriptures you and your cohorts will say JWs are twisting it.
Now see your life, God's word said "SOUL WILL DIE" but instead of you to humble yourself and learn, you're now trying to twist God's word.
Are you saying God doesn't understand what a soul means?

My friend, the Soul means a creature and one of the characteristics of a living thing is DEATH!

I have posted that [/b]
1. Soul is not = flesh (physical, earthly body);

*. Genesis 35:18 "KJV:And it came to pass, as HER SOUL WAS IN[b] DEPARTING, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin.

2. 'soul that commits sin shall die' does not mean SOUL THAT COMMITS SIN SHALL STOP EXISTENCE, No.

It means THE SOUL THAT COMMITS SIN SHALL BE SEPARATED FROM LIFE/LOVE /GOD.[/b]

*. Genesis 49:6 "KJV:O MY SOUL, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall.

Note:
The speaker in Genesis 49:6 is not referring to the flesh/physical body.

'HER SOUL WAS IN DEPARTING' is the Biblical definition of die.[b]

Maximus69:
The highlighted is your own manipulation Sir!

What the scriptures says is clear enough,

The SOUL that sin will die! Ezekiel 18:4

So you can't twist this my friend, God's word is straightforward and clear!

Once you have understood that [/b]The SOUL that sin will die![b]

Does not cancel [/b]the soul is immortal[b],

Let me know so that we can go to hell/hellfire/lake of fire.

Death means separation from...

1. Physical death = separation from loved ones;

separation from the earth;

separation of the body from the soul.

2. Spiritual death = separation of the soul from Jesus (i.e Jesus=life, John 14:6);

separation of the soul from Love (i.e God 1john 4:

So the soul sinneth shall be separated from Life/LOVE/God.

Alright?

Maximus69:
You are a disappointment!

Because you said "souls can't die, souls are immortal"

Now that you can see for yourself that the Bible (God's word) didn't agree with your assertion you want to shift the goal post shey?

My friend, whether you like it or not what God's word said is Adam is dead completely nothing survives after a man dies!

I posted
[/b]
this statement 'AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL' means MAN BECAME SOUL THAT CAN NOT DIE.
The soul is eternal![/b]


You then posted[b]
SOUL CAN DIE Ezekiel 18:4'[b]

I then quoted this your sentence in my reply to your post and explained to you what it means.

The summary of what I'm saying is that

1. Soul is not = flesh (physical, earthly body);

2. 'soul that commits sin shall die' does not mean SOUL THAT COMMITS SIN SHALL STOP EXISTENCE, No.

It means THE SOUL THAT COMMITS SIN SHALL BE SEPARATED FROM LIFE/LOVE /GOD.

Maximus69:
God's word proves that the bolded is a lie, because it's stated that SOUL CAN DIE Ezekiel 18:4

And @ Luke 23:43 Jesus said

"I promise you today, you will be with me in Paradise"

First of all, Paradise is going to be here on earth not heaven.

Secondly only Born Again Christians can go to heaven!

Finally Jesus was in the grave for three consecutive days so it couldn't have been that same day that he went to Paradise with the thief!

'SOUL CAN DIE Ezekiel 18:4'

Death means separation from...

1. Physical death = separation from loved ones;
separation from the earth;

separation of the body from the soul.

2. Spiritual death = separation of the soul from Jesus (i.e Jesus=life, John 14:6);

separation of the soul from Love (i.e God 1john 4:.


So the soul sinneth shall be separated from Life/LOVE/God.


Today has no 2nd meaning.

Jesus said "Father, into your hand I commit my spirit"

This means He went to the Father.

Maximus69:
God's word proves that the bolded is a lie, because it's stated that SOUL CAN DIE Ezekiel 18:4

And @ Luke 23:43 Jesus said

"I promise you today, you will be with me in Paradise"

First of all, Paradise is going to be here on earth not heaven.

Secondly only Born Again Christians can go to heaven!

Finally Jesus was in the grave for three consecutive days so it couldn't have been that same day that he went to Paradise with the thief!

My posts is to show from the Word that soul is not = flesh/physical body.

Ken4Christ:
So, you are saying, it should read, the sorrows of grave or the pains of grave? How does it sound to you? You are contradicting yourself because you believe the dead knows nothing. So, how come they are having sorrows in the grave and pains also? You must believe one. If you say it was wrongly translated hell, that it should be grave. Is there sorrow in the grave?

He won't answer the question

Righteousness89:
Many Do not Know or See What is Happening on Earth. There are Major Terrible Shakings Just as the Holy Bible Records Going on all over the World..

Beginning From Today the 8th of September, I will be putting these Events just as they Happen

This is not to Scare anyone. .

The Purpose of this is to Wake those who care for their Soul.
The Purpose of this is to Let us Remember that we are only on transit here. This is not our Home.
The Purpose of this is to Remind us that we are at the Verge of the RAPTURE! The Greatest Event to Hit Mankind and the need for us to Sit up and Ensure our Preparation is Topnotch..

Feel free to Share them to all and Sundry..

The sinners are blaming God for promised punishment for unrepentant sinners.

They often blast whoever reminds them of the consequences of sin (i.e hellfire)

No one of them is blaming himself for rejecting the solution God provides, ( i.e Jesus)

No one of them is grateful for the opportunity given for amendment of his way, ( i.e they are still alive)

*. Jeremiah 7:3 "KJV: THUS SAITH THE LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, AMEND YOUR WAYS AND YOUR DOINGS, and I will cause you to dwell in this place."

5
KJV:For IF YE THROUGHLY AMEND YOUR WAYS AND YOUR DOINGS; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour...

*. Jeremiah 26:13 "KJV: THEREFORE NOW AMEND YOUR WAYS AND YOUR DOINGS, and obey the voice of the Lord your God; AND THE LORD WILL REPENT HIM OF THE EVIL THAT HE HATH PRONOUNCED AGAINST YOU"

*. Jeremiah 35:15 "KJV:I HAVE SENT also unto you ALL MY SERVANTS the prophets, RISING UP EARLY AND SENDING THEM, SAYING, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and AMEND YOUR DOINGS, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me."

Note:
THUS SAITH THE LORD...AMEND YOUR WAYS AND YOUR DOINGS...

...IF YE THROUGHLY AMEND YOUR WAYS AND YOUR DOINGS...

...THE LORD WILL REPENT HIM OF THE EVIL THAT HE HATH PRONOUNCED AGAINST YOU.

...I HAVE SENT...ALL MY SERVANTS...

RISING UP EARLY AND SENDING THEM, SAYING...AMEND YOUR DOINGS!!!

Janosky:
Bros, who told you Hebrew 7585 in Psalms 6:5 and Psalms 9:17 mean different things?

Who told you that Hebrew 7585 in 1 Samuel2:6 and 2Samuel22:6 mean different things?

Bros, Whatever you interpretation you give to Hebrew 7585in Psalms 6:5, Psalms 9:17,
1 Sam2:6 and 2 Sam22:6, your Bible says David and Job went there to rest


Continue to DECEIVE yourself

Yahweh have spoken:
Ecclesiastes 3:20
"All go to one place: All come from dust, and all return to dust."


Genesis2:7
Then Yahweh formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living soul.


Job 34:15
all flesh would perish together and mankind would return to the dust.

Psalm 90:3
You return man to dust and say, "Return, O sons of mortals."


Psalm 103:14
For He knows our frame; He is mindful that we are dust.


Psalm 104:29
When You hide Your face, they panic; when You take away their breath, they die and return to dust.



Ecclesiastes 12:7
before the dust returns to the ground from which it came, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Genesis3:19
In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, [b]till you return to the ground; for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, and to dust shall you return.[/b

Don't worry, the Word will tell which is which.

It's clear from the Word that the human body is dust/ earth/clay...

*. Genesis 2:7 "KJV:And the Lord God FORMED MAN OF THE DUST of the ground, and BREATHED INTO HIS NOSTRILS the breath of life; AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.

*. Genesis3:19 "KJV:In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: FOR DUST THOU ART, and unto DUST SHALT THOU RETURN"

*. Ecclesiastes 12:7 "KJV:Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: AND THE SPIRIT SHALL RETURN UNTO GOD WHO GAVE IT.

Note:

FOR DUST THOU ART...DUST SHALT THOU RETURN...AND THE SPIRIT SHALL

RETURN UNTO GOD WHO GAVE IT.

So we can see that man = body + soul +
+ spirit ✓

Maximus69:
Question ~ What is SOUL?
Answer ~ a living creature! Genesis 2:7

Question ~ Doesn't anything survives death in a living creature after death?

Answer ~ NO! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

A million dollar question! [b]Where is Adam (the first and foremost sinner) presently?

You'll read for sure but can never understand. Daniel 12:10

Soul is the 'frame' that carries the spirit of/in man.

*.
*. Genesis 2: "7
KJV:And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.

Note:
this statement 'AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL' means MAN BECAME SOUL THAT CAN NOT DIE.

The soul is eternal!

2. Yes, human souls continue existence after death.

*. Luke 23:43 "KJV:And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, TODAY SHALT THOU BE WITH ME IN PARADISE."

Note:
this statement 'TODAY SHALT THOU BE WITH ME IN PARADISE' means there is more to the man after death.

Moreover I see nothing in Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 that suggest 'nothing survives death in a living creature after death'

*. Ecclesiastes 3:19 "
KJV:For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.

20
KJV:All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

21
KJV:Who knoweth THE SPIRIT OF MAN that GOETH UPWARD, and THE SPIRIT OF THE BEAST that GOETH DOWNWARD to the earth?

Note:
The speaker is just comparing and contrasting man and animals:

THE SPIRIT OF MAN...GOETH UPWARD,
and

THE SPIRIT OF THE BEAST GOETH DOWNWARD...

That's all.

Maximus69:
Question ~ What is SOUL?
Answer ~ a living creature! Genesis 2:7

Question ~ Doesn't anything survives death in a living creature after death?

Answer ~ NO! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

A million dollar question! [b]Where is Adam (the first and foremost sinner) presently?

You'll read for sure but can never understand. Daniel 12:10

I will try and reply your post, although it may not be immediately.

Maximus69:
The understanding has been given to a few! Daniel 12:10

Even if you read the word a million times, you can't make any sense without consulting those to whom the secret has been revealed! Matthew 13:10-15

So keep reading while there's no understanding!

Max, any understanding outside the Word it's not taken

Maximus69:
The interpretation of Jesus' Parable of Lazarus and the rich man!

The Word will prove otherwise

Maximus69:
There is HELL!
It's the common GRAVE that all dead people are kept!
Even Jesus went to HELL but God did not allow him to perish there!

If we look into the Word, we'll see that there's hell.

The way it's used some places, it's not the physical grave but the place for departed souls.

abdullahi45:
Public relations, Human Resource Management, and may be

Thanks for the reply.

Ajibade123:
courses like building tech will require physics at minimum

Ok, thanks

Ajibade123:
as an art student you can take public relations, human resources and Even marketing if have economics

How about course that is related to building tech. for an art student?

It may be another version of the BLM.

elroyale:
The world is evolving fast and likewise our needs. We seek convenience and how we can get things done faster, some job roles that were once performed by humans can now be done more efficiently with machines.

Picking a course of study in Nigeria would require you to be prospective on what would be of relevance in the coming decades in the country. There is a general notion that lucrative courses are just medicine, law and accounting, but in this article, I'll be highlighting some underrated courses in 2020 with a profitable prospect in Nigeria.

10 Lucrative Courses to study in Nigeria in 2020

Microbiology

Think about it, don't you feel there would a bit more focus on scientific research especially since the pandemic in Nigeria. Courses like Microbiology, Genetics, Biochemistry certainly have a great future ahead, so if you are considering which course to study, you can consider a course that would involve scientific research.

Public Relations

With companies and businesses in the country now concerned about brand management and online reputation management, public relation is a course that you should consider studying in Nigeria. A good number of Federal and State University offer degrees in Public relations, you can as well obtain some professionals certificates with your degree.

Agriculture

There is no need for a long talk on this, right?

Agriculture is the present and future of Nigeria's economic growth, with the increasing global population, there is an unavoidable increase in the demand for food. Courses in Agriculture would be highly needed and appreciated in the coming years.

Business Management

Running a business is said to have risks, but the risks are minimal when properly managed by the right hands. A lot of business owners are in desperate need of effective Business Managers. Business Management is a very lucrative course with its horizons in every sector of the economy in Nigeria.

Computer Science

Computer science is sometimes underrated because a lot of students do not see the bigger picture of studying the course. The world is already a digital village and those with digital knowledge runs it.

Computer science has so many fields within it but as a student considering a career in Computer science, you'll need to be clear on your aspirations and goals, you might also need to be open to learn and take professional courses to become an expert in your field.

Estate Management

Estate Management concerns the appraisal, acquisition, development, marketing and disposal of property, or sometimes the ongoing management of properties.

Real Estate is the current gold in the market sector and it is here to stay. Estate owners require efficient real estate managers to properly manage their properties. You can consider a career in real estate.

Civil Engineering

Nigeria is a developing nation and a lot of infrastructural development are going on all over the country. Civil engineering is a highly lucrative course in Nigeria, you get to be at the centre of rural to urban growth.

Mathematics and Statistics
Data analyst and Statisticians are highly sought after in the finance industry, medical industry, manufacturing industry e.t.c.
A degree in Mathematics and Statistics has a bright future for its holders if you take the right steps in becoming an expert in the field.

Human Resource Management

The Human Resource Management department ( H.R.M) or (HR) is currently one of the most important departments in every organization because it bridges the gap between employers and employees.

Every new organization would need an HR department and this is why H.R.M would still be a lucrative field in Nigeria in the next decades.

Marketing

Who wouldn't want their businesses heard by the right audience and customers?
Marketing is a profitable course with so many benefits embedded within it, you can never be wrong if you choose to study marketing in the higher institution.

A piece of candid advice is that you should consider professional skills in digital marketing alongside your degree.

Conclusion

Nigeria's education sector still has a lot in stock for the youths, recently University of Ibadan was ranked among the top 500 universities in the world, this simply shows that with more hands-on-deck we could be among the best 100 in the world.

Education is important likewise having the right industry skills is also important. The courses in this article were selected based on their current and future relevance in Nigeria as a developing nation, you can make proper research before taking any step further in choosing a course to study.

Source: https://www.basmall.com.ng/blogs/news/10-underrated-courses-in-2020-in-nigeria-with-lucrative-future-prospect

Which among the list can an art student take?

sonmvayina:
See what scholars are saying..

Good, it's interesting to see that you believe somebody's write up.

Another reason for food crisis has been given.

Nigerians, tighten your belts.

If we die, may we get to heaven; if we survive it (the famine) or him (the Buhari), may we see Jesus.

sonmvayina:
I am ready..

Let's go!

*. Isaiah 1:11
"KJV:To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats."

In this place God has rejected the animal sacrifices.

Another place makes us to understand the reason more perfectly:

*. Hebrews 10:
1
KJV:For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

4
KJV:For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

Note:
the major problem between God and man is sin.

So God has to provide solution for it.

Maximus69:
You said your god saved you, i'm saying that is just what you were told not what you can explain from the Bible!

The quotation i gave you says God's word is sharper than a sword having two edges and it can reach the heart. Hebrew 4:12

All these your argument with the agnostic is to prove to him that you know God better than him and that he should agree with you on what you were taught to believe.

God's word according to that Bible verse i gave you has two edges, this means if you have the true word of God your talks must reach deep down people's hearts but the result will not be the same, some will respond favourably and immediately will like to join you in pure worship {Act 2:37-38} others will also realize that you've beaten their conscience but due to so many attachments they'll shy away {Act 26:24-32} this is the result of the first side of the sword. But others will also be stabbed to the heart and due to the fact that they hate the truth they'll hate you to the point of hurting you! Act 7:54-60

Note that either way the truth of God's word reached the heart!

Chill let me see how far he knows the Word.

As you, you quote the Word but explain watchtower.

Confirmedzombie:
Igbo hatred for Buhari i fear may consume them. Take it or leave it, Buhari has done much for Ndigbo than every other president.

Igbos should hold their governors, senators, HOR, state assembly, LGA Chairmen responsible for there suffering and leave Buhari.

What are the SE governors doing with there allocations.

Everything for igbos na Buhari.

How ndiogbo take come into these matter now.

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi jokes plenty plenty for TRINITY!

Your god saved you because some people say so, then it can also save others who doesn't see any reason to trust (believe) in it!

Jehovah's Witnesses, may God continue to bless you guys for locating me with words of truth that has substance worth considering as God's word! Hebrew 4:12

The post you quoted does not have '
Your god saved you because some people say'

You will read the Bible and add strange interpretation; the same thing you do to people's comments

I said He saved me, because I know He have saved me.

What in that post that connotes/denotes '...because some people say'

Come out of watchtower, you won't hear!

[quote author=sonmvayina post=93670569]LOL.. So is that how you convince yourself..?.. Read the whole of Isaiah 45..then come back, then we can talk.. [/quote

If you have chosen the book of prophet Isaiah, then let's start from chapter 1 to the end of the book and understand what he is saying.

sonmvayina:
Saved you from what exactely?.. Who sent him?. You are still not getting it.. Everything the writers attributed to Jesus are all against God's laws.. It can't be of God..

It is nothing but rebranded paganism. The Romans and Greek added it at the end of the jewish scriptures to deceive people.. Who can't understand or think for them selves..

Do you have problems with the mathematical law that says 1×1×1=1?

sonmvayina:
Saved you from what exactely?.. Who sent him?. You are still not getting it.. Everything the writers attributed to Jesus are all against God's laws.. It can't be of God..

It is nothing but rebranded paganism. The Romans and Greek added it at the end of the jewish scriptures to deceive people.. Who can't understand or think for them selves..

Who is this God you are referring to and which law of His are you talking about?

Moreover Jesus saves me from sin and its consequences,

*. Romans 5:9 "KJV:Much more then, being now justified by HIS BLOOD, we shall be SAVED FROM WRATH through him."

Note:
HIS BLOOD SAVED FROM WRATH...

sonmvayina:
That is exactely my point.. Somebody said he said... Bla Bla Bla.. The gospels are not eye witness account.. They are written in the third person... Decades after the events they are describing... All of what they said he said are all against God's laws in the old testament.. God says "do not have any other God before me".. No intermediary no mediator... Come to me directly but somebody wrote that Jesus said what you quoted...

Understand it, it is not rocket science..

But He has salved me, and He can save you an He will save you if only you believe.

sonmvayina:
The Sonmvayina - Perspectives
FACT: Christians are taught to shut off logic and have faith not in God, but in their Church fathers only which leaves them us on a path to hell!

Close-minded people will never grow!!

That's because they believe they have a monopoly on the truth.

which is very strange, especially in the black community!

We have a church on every other corner next to a liquor store by the way, and yet the condition of our people with this many churches does not change for the better

It's because we refuse to listen to Black Jesus and obey the laws and statutes of Moses folks!!!

Instead we listen to White Roman Paul who says,

white jesus freed us from the laws of God say what!!??

Therefore we do not have to listen to God any longer why It's because they have told us Yahweh the most high has retired and gone fishing therefore he has given all power unto white Jesus who has undone based on the Greeks rewriting of the Bible every single thing that God wanted!

For example,

God says do not drink blood in any fashion realistic or even symbolic rituals whyyyte Jesus says I'm going to do one better not only will you drink blood but you going to drink my blood instead and you're going to do symbolic cannibalism to and eat my flesh.

Yahweh says keep the Sabbath holy which is on a Saturday, whyyyte Jesus says for us to forget the Saturday Sabbath day let's take one of the pagan Sabbath and make it on Sunday!? not to celebrate the most high but to celebrate me whyyyte jesus instead Yahweh God says there's a dietary restriction and dietary laws that we must obey!

So what does whyyyte jesus do he tells the Christians that it's not what goes into your body that defiles a man is what comes out so therefore whyyyte Jesus and whyyyte Paul says let no one judge you in holy days or in what you should eat
and yet,,

with all of these contradictions of the Most High, Christians will never say,
wait a minute Why does this new God created in a man's image contradict the most high who by the way, black Jesus told us we must worship as a singular God in spirit and in truth

Notice how idiotic and subtly they make Jesus say things against God? Which we know he never said but Christians will never question these things in realize that anyone can rewrite the gospels which keeps Greece and Rome pagan nations in power over God's chosen elect and all other nations that the Jews were supposed to be at light to teach about the Most High!!!!

Wake up folks!!! Jesus says hear o Israel our God, meaning, his God too, is "one" God not a trinity folks!!!! The Sonmvayina perspective

Jesus says "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."

Ask Him to forgive you your sins.
And He will do it for you .

17. PAUL BEFORE KING AGRIPPA:

*. Acts 26:22
KJV:Having therefore obtained help of God, I CONTINUE unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, SAYING NONE OTHER THINGS THAN THOSE WHICH THE PROPHETS AND MOSES DID SAY SHOULD COME:
23
KJV: THAT CHRIST SHOULD SUFFER, AND THAT HE SHOULD BE THE FIRST THAT SHOULD RISE FROM THE DEAD, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

note:
...I CONTINUE..., SAYING NONE OTHER THINGS THAN THOSE WHICH THE

PROPHETS AND MOSES DID SAY SHOULD COME...

THAT CHRIST SHOULD SUFFER, AND
THAT

HE SHOULD BE THE FIRST THAT SHOULD RISE FROM THE DEAD...

This is the true gospel.



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OkhaiAsein:
No. 1 - Keep late nights
A situation that has no solution is yet to be born. After you must have asked her to change her bad characters in many loving ways, yet she sees good reasons to remain in them, then try this.
When you are done from work, find a friend's place where you can stay and be comfortable, do not go home until it's late at night, when she must have been tired and retired to bed.
Do not keep late nights in the bar, the devil may be there waiting for you. Discuss your plan with a trusted friend, let him know you are trying to caution your wife. He will help you with other sub and reasonable plans while in his house.
If your woman is not jealous enough to stop anything that led to your late nights, then she has the heart of a rod. Try the second way.

If she also starts to keep late night how we go com do am.

Are you having blames for beating your wife and nobody cares to ask you what she did?

Don't vex, tell us now, what did she do?