Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Pastors Children Don't Live To Up To Their Fathers' Names? by KNOWMORE56: 8:51pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
petra1: I agree with you that they didnt believe on at some point . James was a pharisee but got converted after.
He became one of the apostles in the early church .
Galatians 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
James the younger brother of jesus took over the church in Jerusalem which was a kind of HQ In that time, James rise to leadership became very obvious when Peter was released from Prison, he had to send report to James first of his release
Acts 12:17 But he, beckoning unto them with the hand to hold their peace, declared unto them how the Lord had brought him out of the prison. And he said, Go shew these things unto James, and to the brethren. And he departed, and went into another place.
If you observe when there was doctrinal issue in the early church and Paul and other apostles gathered . Even though James was new in the faith and doctrine and was still mixing the old law with the new but James was the one calling the shot . His word seem to be final .
Acts 15:13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God
So you could see that James was the person in charge.
Another incidence was when Peter traveled to visit Paul in Galatia. He observed that the Jews and gentiles Christians ate together and he joined in too. But when some people came Ftom JERUSALEM (James church) Peter was afraid and decamped from eating with the gentiles Christians and Paul had to rebuke him
Galatians 2:11-13 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
It’s a fact that James ,Peter and John were pillars among the Apostles but James has leadership
Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Galatians 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
, He said BEFORE CHRIST'S DEATH none of his brethren believed in Him. I have heard this from other too. But what I see in the Bible says differently. Jesus has two people answering the name JAMES. And there's no time the Bible says that any of them (James) was changed after Christ's death. So I continue to wonder were people get the above concept from. Let's see the following: *. Matthew 10:2-4 "KJV:Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; JAMES THE SON OF ZEBEDEE, and John his brother; 3 KJV:Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; JAMES THE SON OF ALPHAEUS, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; 4 KJV:Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. *. Matthew 27:56 KJV:Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of JAMES and Joses, and the mother of Zebedees children. One is called JAMES THE SON OF ZEBEDEE, another is called JAMES THE SON OF ALPHAEUS. PLEASE, which of them believe after CHRIST'S DEATH? |
Politics › Re: Is Bad Governance Really The Cause Of Fraud In Nigeria? by KNOWMORE56: 5:42pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
A gallon of water filled with dirty water, it's hard to find out if you keep it from being punctured.
Once the gallon is punctured, its contents will be noticed.
Although the Sharp object caused the linkages,
but the truth is that there has been dirty water inside the gallon.
More than 90% of Nigerians (high and low, Christians and non Christians) are evil.
When one evil person saw or noticed another person ahead of him/her on the same evil course,he'll then feel more righteous than the other.
Sometimes if I try to encourage myself that Nigeria will be good some days,
I noticed that the up coming generations are more terrible than the outgoing generation.
My only encouragement now is in
Revelation 21:1 " KJV:And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 KJV:And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 KJV:And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 KJV:And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: FOR THE FORMER THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY. 5 KJV:And he that sat upon the throne said, BEHOLD, I MAKE ALL THINGS NEW. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Halleluiah!
How many of you have this kind of HOPE? |
Romance › Re: How I Met Christ by KNOWMORE56: 6:14am On Jun 26, 2020 |
Samjoshmilton: My life was jeopardize with sins, and darkness has buried my soul, my tongues dances for lies and my heart is full of evils. The secret place I brought in to school in 100l was totally gone, I don't have secret place neither do I have holy book to read, fornication and adultery bcam my daily exercise and my life was completely rue, even gathering of Gods people became my enemy. The devil took over my life and started toying with it, it was miserable, it was gloomy and completely lost, I needed help because I was dying inside, boiling inside and burning away bt because the devil has Harden my heart and turn my back on the way of the Lord I couldn't look for help instead I pretend to be fine even when am not, life became hard for me. Whenever someone spoke to me about Jesus, at that particular tym i will change and turn my back on sin then after some minute the devil in me will took over and harden my heart again, I live under the word of God, sleep in it, dine in it yet the word became shallow in me, God kept calling me bt I turn d deaf ear to him. But one day I get tired of the old ways, I get tired of the dark place, I get tired of working for the devil, I was thirst for Jesus, I couldn't sleep, I was hopeless, kept thinking about my future without God and at the same time I was scared of missing it in life. I was looking for mercy. Then one day I made up my mind and went to God to Ask for mercy, He look for me when I was going astray and brought me into his present, forgive me all my sins, turn my life around and set me free....am no more in the world of sin, am now in the world of Christ��. Congratulations! Make use of the CCC The Call, you Come, now Continue! And may the Lord be your best help. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity Explained by KNOWMORE56(op): 8:27am On Jun 25, 2020 |
Many people or religion groups have agreed that the true God is one.
The teaching about Trinity is no different.
I have taken my time to know what it is all about, and the following are my findings
1) Mathematically 1×1×1=1(the Almy One)
That is 1(one) increased by 1(one) and increased by another 1(one)=1(the Almighty One).
Each one (1) in the example above shares the same thing (characteristics).
In other words, God the Father increased (multiply) by God the son and multiply (increased) by God the Holy Spirit=THE ALMIGHTY GOD.
The sign of addition (+) and the sign of multiplication (×) resemble themselves but they are different
When × is viewed daigonally, someone may thinks it's +.
That's why some take the Trinity as 1+1+1=3 gods x(wrong)
Trinity is 1×1×1=1GOD (the Almighty)✓ |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by KNOWMORE56: 5:04pm On Jun 24, 2020 |
Maximus69: He reports to no one, he worships no one!  Bible references and your explanation/definition of 'report and worship' |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by KNOWMORE56: 11:41am On Jun 24, 2020 |
Maximus69: Humans define the title differently but if you meditate on all the various definitions you'll grasp what makes a person your God. According to the Bible itself the title "God" is given to whoever dictates what happens in your society, this makes such a person the Supreme ruler whose orders must be strictly followed. The Bible made it clear that one of the lies Satan told Eve is "you will be like God, knowing good and evil" {Genesis 3:5} but before saying this Satan first told her "you will not positively die" which means "whatever the order spirit (referring to God) told you is a lie" Genesis 3:4
That's why humans were also referred to as Gods {Psalms 82:1,6} because they dictate to their fellowman even when their subjects finds the orders not palatable! Ecclesiastes 4:1, 8:9 Mose became God before Pharaoh because he dictates what happens in Egypt even when Pharaoh (the king who was also revered as God) is still on the throne! Exodus 7:1
Jesus served as God when all the powerful spirits ravaging his people had to take orders from him {Matthew 8:28-34} even natural forces obeyed Jesus {Mark 4:35-41} just the same way Moses also controls them! Exodus 14:21,27
Both Moses and Jesus did made it clear that someone was giving them others and that is the person we all must worship as God! Deuteronomy 6:4; John 20:17
Apostle Paul finally revealed in his letter to the Corinthians that Jesus is our mediator so that every man will see Jesus as our leader but Jesus also have someone leading him ~ GOD! 1Corinthians 11:3, 15:27-29
God bless you!  Ok, you try. Notwithstanding, what I'm asking is what makes THE ONLY TRUE GOD to be the only one? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by KNOWMORE56: 3:52am On Jun 24, 2020 |
Janosky: Every Priest dey serve God or deity that is Superior to the Priest. No Priest is equal to his God. RECEIVE SENSE  Let's see if we can reason along. What makes God to be God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 8:35am On Jun 16, 2020 |
Jesus says as I worship Him, im Father dey salute me |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 8:28am On Jun 16, 2020 |
johnw47: in the new testament, Ghost is a word meaning: Spirit, it doesn't mean demon
janosky speaking fairy tales and not biblical said: "Ghost is a demon. No demon is holy" with his usual false jw much laughter - multiple laughing icons
some think they can speak any way of the Holy Spirit we know janosky's fate for blaspheming Him:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness
but janosky was lost long before this
ha ha, false jw's lying is habitual - from their daddy the devil to us their lies are so duh, but to them they thing they are being intelligent, they are blinded:
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Jesus probably used the words son and daughter to these suffering people in terms of endearment
but also really with the Word/Jesus Christ being the creator of man, we are His sons and daughters
scriptures show that Father and the word is creator, scriptures show that Father and the Word is God it was God - Father and the Word that created man:
Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
so God - Father and the Word is the Creator
and so of course the Creator - Father and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . Ok, thanks |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:01pm On Jun 15, 2020 |
Janosky: Deut 6:13, Yahweh says ONLY YAHWEH YOU MUST WORSHIP ALONE.
Matt 4:10 Jesus says ONLY YAHWEH YOU MUST WORSHIP ALONE.
Rev 19:10 the Angel said to John: "WORSHIP GOD".
But These TRIUNE IDOL WORSHIPPERS (wey know pass Yahweh and his Son Jesus and God's Angels), the IDOL WORSHIPPERS say them go WORSHIP the Lamb.  Let's see what Matthew 4:10 says "KJV:Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE. *. John 12:26 "KJV:If any MAN SERVE ME, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any MAN SERVE ME, him will my Father honour. NOTE, He said ONLY the Lord your God you will serve, He then said all the people serving Him the Father will honour them. He didn't use the word God in that place but Father. Because He had assumed His office as God in that verse. He said ONLY God you have to serve, and said afterward SERVE ME. In other words He is saying I AM THE LORD THY GOD I have shown you how the people were only saying 'it is the voice of God' and the man to whom they said it was killed by angel. What about the king of Babylon? He was at a point referred to as king of Kings. He spent some years in the bush for giving himself the glory due God. God said and mean it that He won't give His glory to another. But you and your organization want to force us to believe that Jesus is another. In John 20:28, Thomas worship Jesus and no angel stroke any of them dead as it happens in Acts 12 :22-23 "KJV:And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. 23 KJV:And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost. Janosky, the word translated a god in acts 12:22 is the same with the one in John 1:1. Whether human beings translated it 'a god' or 'God' Heaven knows it means the true God! Hence the action of the angel. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 8:44pm On Jun 15, 2020 |
freshboi88: Titus 2:13while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,
From the mouth Saint Paul himself God bless you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 6:00pm On Jun 15, 2020 |
In a public forum like NL, someone has the courage to post that Ghost means demon.
Ghost does not mean Spirit?
I think this is what is called dutch courage.
Trinity by Janosky: 11:54pm On Jun 05
Take it or leave it. Ghost is a demon. No demon is holy grin grin
Bros, If it PLEASES you to believe your DELUSION. I have no problem with that. (Quote) (Report) (Like) (Share)
Another person also is trying to tell the public that
if you call someone son/daughter, for the fact that you don't say MY son/daughter
the person you call is definitely not your son or daughter,
Even though the Bible calls Jesus God, for the fact that it doesn't say 'our God'
that makes Him less than 'our God'.
Janosky and peacefullove, are you aware that many people are reading these posts?
Below are verses were Jesus calls someone son or daughter
*. Matthew 9:2 "KJV:And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; SON, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee
*. Mark 5: 34 "KJV:And he said unto her, DAUGHTER, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
please, somebody should explain clearly here whose son and daughter Jesus means.
I want to knowmore.
Maximus69, Janosky, peacefullove, achorlady, Johnw47, emusan, etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:07am On Jun 15, 2020 |
Maximus69: It's so pathetic that your brain is malfunctioning Sir! But let me assist you a bit!
LOVE~ People longing to see, eat, drink, talk and share happy moments while reading and meditating on the scriptures with one another just because they're having the same line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10
JOY~ People moving with one accord sharing the message of hope with their neighbours, due to the inner JOY they have!
PEACE~ People who aren't divided by racial prejudice, social status, educational background or skin colour!
Now go and tell the founders of those so called churches you mentioned to stop going about with heavily armed guards if truthfully there is LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering! 
Abegi from whom are their Pastors protecting themselves if not from their own members?  Maximus calm down, let's get something clear. This your definition of LOVE, JOY and PEACE, is it from the GB, the GO, the Bible, dictionary or your own head? ONLY JESUS CAN GIVE TRUE AND LASTING PEACE,JOY, LOVE, etc. It's unfortunate that they are able to manipulate you this way. The Adeboye group has love, peace and joy within/among themselves, just as it is with the organization. Pastors go about with guards because of kidnappers, not because of their members. The GB enjoy the proceeds from the organization as the GO enjoy the proceeds from the church. The organization will block you from knowing this. I have asked myself why do all of them have G in their title. GB, GO, GS they all have something in common! But, Maximus, I assure you that Jesus can deliver you from their manipulation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 9:18am On Jun 15, 2020 |
freshboi88: Y u worry urself for Janosky....my pple say fly way no dey hear word dey follow corpse enta grave. E no believe in Jesus. E no fit confess as him saviour and God. Even after Isaiah don prophesy am say an Mighty God, e still dey argue. Leave am My brother, the thin tire me o |
Health › Re: COVID-19: Enugu Confirms 22 New Cases Within 3 Days by KNOWMORE56: 8:07am On Jun 15, 2020 |
Mikocake: Lilli?? How are we sure it's not common cold since rainy season has began to peak in the east? All na scam..coronavirus in Nigeria is scam. NB: I stay in Enugu too Go and embrace the patients, if you don't catch coro we then know for sure, there is no covid-19 in Enugu state |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 11:54pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
Maximus69: You try! 
So what's the aftereffect of all these your quotations in the midst of Trinitarians when you people don't even have LOVE, JOY and PEACE in your gatherings? James 2:18-26 O maximus69, it's unfortunate that you have sold yourself to the organization through oath. Each group have LOVE, JOY and PEACE among themselves. The GB manipulate you to see all other groups as one. But you can help yourself with the following: The Catholic Church is a group of its own. So it is with Dunamis, CAC,MOFM, DLBC, etc. If anything happens within each group, they settle it there and continue. This is why each of them have existed till date. I would like you to know that even occult group do have LOVE, JOY and PEACE WITHIN themselves. Consider what the greatest Teacher says: EVEN SINNERS DO THE SAME *. Luke 6: 33 "KJV:And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for SINNERS ALSO DO EVEN THE SAME. *. Mark 3:24 "KJV:And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. So you can see that each group (whether godly or not) have love, Joy and peace WITHIN themselves. But my Bible shows me where I can get/have true/lasting PEACE. *. John 16:33 "KJV:These things I have spoken unto you, THAT IN ME ye MIGHT HAVE PEACE. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. the peace, Joy, etc is in Jesus. Jesus in me and I in Jesus, I have Peace that NO GB(Governing Body), GO(General Overseer), organization or church can take away! *. John 15:4 "KJV:Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. If you say you have Peace, joy, etc because you are in the organization or the organization is in you, then, the organization/GB is your Jesus! But why will you die in your sins? *. John 8:24 "KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL DIE in YOUR SINS: for IF YE BELIEVE not THAT I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins. Jesus can deliver you from the grip of the oath you took with them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 11:12pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
Maximus69: You try! 
So what's the aftereffect of all these your quotations in the midst of Trinitarians when you people don't even have LOVE, JOY and PEACE in your gatherings? James 2:18-26 O maximus69, it unfortunate that you have sold yourself to the organization through oath. Each group have LOVE, JOY and PEACE among themselves. The GB manipulate you to see all other groups as one. But you can help yourself with the following: The Catholic Church is a group of its own. So it is with Dunamis, CAC,MOFM, DLBC, etc. If anything happens within each group, they settle it there and continue. This is why each of them have existed till date. I would like you to know that even occult group do have LOVE, JOY and PEACE WITHIN themselves. Consider what the greatest Teacher says: EVEN SINNERS DO THE SAME *. Luke 6: 33 "KJV:And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for SINNERS ALSO DO EVEN THE SAME. *. Mark 3:24 "KJV:And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. So you can |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:38pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
Janosky: Acts7:59, you claim Stephen prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word (EPIKALEO) is in Acts 25:11. Bros, do you agree that Paul prayed to Caesar? Does Greek EPIKALEO in Acts 7:59 mean "prayer"?
Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8 After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."
You no dey diguoh (knee down, bow, prostrate) for your Elders or parents ? Na worship you dey worship them ? Revelations 5:10, did the 24 Elders and the Lamb (Jesus) worship the same God in heaven? Is that God, Jesus Christ?  Bros,Rev5:14, the 24 Elders WORSHIPPED the God of the Lamb, NOT the Lamb. (Revelations 19:4, Bible truth).
Bros, Matthew 4:10 is IMMUTABLE, you hear?
Why is the truth so difficult for you to CONFESS? Father x Son x Holy Ghost = Almighty God One of the reasons for this increasement/multiplication is to achieve redemption for the children of men. When redemption is completed, the increasement/multiplication will be cancelled: *. 1 Corinthians 15:28 "KJV:And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. The true God increased/multiply/extended Himself, but His quality remains intact. Jesus says if you don't believe that he is He You will die in your sins. *. John 8:24 "KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your SINS. Why do you want to die in your sins, o Janosky? *. Ezekiel 33:11 "KJV:Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for WHY WILL ye die, O house of Israel? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:12pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
Janosky: Jehovah God is the God and Father of the Lamb, Jesus Christ in heaven. Rev 5:10. 3:5,12,21.
Jehovah is NOT the Lamb.
Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8 After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."
Bros, the 24 Elders knelt down to pay homage to the Lamb. The same thing you do for your family/Town Elders or your Kabiyesi
Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: WORSHIP God: .
Revelations 19:10 the Angel's advice to John is the same advice that Janosky gives to you. "WORSHIP GOD" not the Lamb.
John10:18 " This command I have RECEIVED from my Father" (Matthew 4:10). The good Shepherd OBEYS the command of our Supreme Shepherd, Jehovah God. Bros, please do the same. Stubbornness no good when the truth is crystal clear to you.
Joshua 24:15 as for Janosky and his household, we shall continue to WORSHIP & PRAISE Jehovah, the God and Father and Shepherd of our Lord Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:3. Hallelujah !!!!
Bros, the ball is in your court.
EPIKALEO is explained in the screenshots
Shalom and God bless. When you see church kneel before the Son and EPIKALEO, Do you and your organization see them as paying homage to the Son, Or they are false Christians giving worship to the one not qualified to receive worship? The reason I ask you to tell the public whether the Lamb is Jehovah, You said that it's Jehovah that the 4 beasts and the 24 elders are worshipping. But the Bible says they fell down before the lamb. What I want you to know in Revelation 19 :10 is that angels can't receive worship. Anytime you see a bieng ( inform of lamb, angel, human, etc) received worship successfully, Know that the true God has just changed Himself to such a being. The people were only saying 'it is the voice of God' *. Acts 12: 23-24 " KJV:And the people gave a shout, saying, IT IS THE VOICE of a GOD, and not of a man. 23 KJV:And immediately the ANGEL of the LORD SMOTE him, BECAUSE HE gave NOT God THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost. This lead to the death of Herod. God can never share His GLORY with another. If He does, He had told us a lie. you can see that the Son is receiving prayers of all the saints. Almost all the versions agreed that the incense are the prayers of the saints. Their prayers are directly to the Son. The truth is 1×1×1=1 One God increased/extended/multiply Himself, and He still remains the same. If you are to list all the properties of one, none of the them will miss anything. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 5:31pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
Janosky: Acts7:59, you claim Stephen prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word (EPIKALEO) is in Acts 25:11. Bros, do you agree that Paul prayed to Caesar? Does Greek EPIKALEO in Acts 7:59 mean "prayer"?
Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8 After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."
You no dey diguoh (knee down, bow, prostrate) for your Elders or parents ? Na worship you dey worship them ? Revelations 5:10, did the 24 Elders and the Lamb (Jesus) worship the same God in heaven? Is that God, Jesus Christ?  Bros,Rev5:14, the 24 Elders WORSHIPPED the God of the Lamb, NOT the Lamb. (Revelations 19:4, Bible truth).
Bros, Matthew 4:10 is IMMUTABLE, you hear?
Why is the truth so difficult for you to CONFESS? Lol, you funny die! See your Omni-Correct NWT *. Revelation 5 8 " When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders+ FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) please can you tell the public here clearly that: 1. Fall down/kneel down doesn't mean worship. 2. Before the lamb means before Jehovah. 3. Epikaleo means shouting at? Moreover, what the elders do there is the same with what John does here, *. Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. FATHER/SON IS THE SHEPHERD: *. Psalms 23:1 " KJV:The LORD is my SHEPHERD; I shall not want.(i.e the Father) *. John 10:11 'KJV:I AM THE GOOD SHEPHERD: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.(i.e the Son) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 11:57pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Janosky: Bros, your Diversionary tactics won't change the DUBIOUS KJV FRAUD of Acts 7:59......  (Bros,you dey see the Screenshots here ?)
Hosea 12:3-4, Psalms 8:5 calls angels "God"/god-." Bros,deal with it. John 17:3,17. Jesus Christ says himself is NOT the one true God Almighty.
Luke 9:35, John 1:18, Exodus 33:20 Yahweh Says your John 1:1 claim is a FRAUD. 
NWT ,Emphatic Diaglott are very correct. The Bible versions similar to NWT were done by Trinitarians who found out that your John 1:1 claim is FRAUDULENT.  One of ways to know the true God is by understanding nature/attributes FATHER/SON ANSWERS PRAYERS: *. Revelation 5:8 " KJV:And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are THE PRAYERS OF SAINTS. NOTE! the Son, in appearance of lamb, is being WORSHIPPED by the 4 beasts and the 24 elders. QUESTIONS: 1. ARE your organization elders greater than these elders? 2. In that same verse, can't you see that the prayers of the saints are received by the Son? 3. In Acts 7:59, you didn't understand that Stephen is praying to Jesus? FATHER/SON IS THE LIGHT: NOTE: Jesus was, is and shall be light. His disciples are only light for now. *. Psalms 27:1 " 1 KJV: THE LORD IS my LIGHT and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? (i.e the Father) *. Revelation 21:23 "KJV:And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the LAMB IS THE LIGHT thereof.(i.e the Son) *. John8:12 "KJV:Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I AM THE LIGHT of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.(i.e the Son) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 11:33pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Janosky: Bros, your Diversionary tactics won't change the DUBIOUS KJV FRAUD of Acts 7:59......  (Bros,you dey see the Screenshots here ?)
Hosea 12:3-4, Psalms 8:5 calls angels "God"/god-." Bros,deal with it. John 17:3,17. Jesus Christ says himself is NOT the one true God Almighty.
Luke 9:35, John 1:18, Exodus 33:20 Yahweh Says your John 1:1 claim is a FRAUD. 
NWT ,Emphatic Diaglott are very correct. The Bible versions similar to NWT were done by Trinitarians who found out that your John 1:1 claim is FRAUDULENT.  One of ways to know the true God is by understanding nature/attributes FATHER/SON ANSWERS PRAYERS: *. Revelation 5:8 " KJV:And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are THE PRAYERS OF SAINTS. NOTE! the Son, in appearance of lamb, is being WORSHIPPED by the 4 beasts and the 24 elders. QUESTIONS: 1. ARE your organization elders greater than these elders? 2. In that same verse, can't you see that the prayers of the saints are received by the Son? In |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 11:08pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Janosky:

Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic are the original Bible languages existing before English Translations.. Whatever you read in English, if its different from the Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic meaning, then it is NOT GENUINE but FRAUDULENT
In Isaiah 9:6, and John 20:28 NWT agreed that the Son is the true God .
When human/angel is referred to as god, it always carries small letter g.
In religious matters, anywhere you see the big letter G, it's talking about the True God. This is a kind of law in English writing.
As it is now, the NWT have knowingly or unknowingly agreed that the Son is the true God.
This happened because the truth (which is Jesus) won't be hidden, no matter how much you try! 2544. Maximus69: Quote Post KNOWMORE56:
Jesus is the image of the Father is not the only reason He is the true God.
Jesus is prayed to and He answers prayers.
Jesus said categorically that what ever you ask him in prayer, He will do it.
*. John 14:14 "KJV:If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO it.
Only the true God answers prayers.
Stephen, the Bible says he's full of the Holy Ghost, prayed to Him.
*. Acts7:59 "KJV:And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
This Stephen, after he saw Jesus, his face started shining like an angel.
*. Acts 6:15 "KJV:And all that sat in the council, looking stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the FACE OF AN ANGEL.
Note: it took Moses 40 days and 40 nights to have this kind of face.
*. Exodus 34:29 "KJV:And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in MOSES' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his FACE SHONE while he talked with him.
what am I saying?
I'm saying Moses associated with the Father and his face shone.
Stephen associated with the Son and his face shone.
Jesus has a God that he prayed to so i'm worshiping the God that Jesus worshiped, Jesus is NOT my own God, period! smiley 2543. KNOWMORE56: Quote Post Maximus69:
Jesus also called God "father" so if he is also one of God's children, how come he is the father again?
The Bible book of Colossians 1:15 say Jesus is the image of God just as humans were also created in God's image, first born of all creation. So how could the first born be the father of all creatures?
Jesus is the image of the Father is not the only reason He is the true God.
Jesus is prayed to and He answers prayers.
Jesus said categorically that what ever you ask him in prayer, He will do it.
*. John 14:14 "KJV:If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO it.
Only the true God answers prayers.
Stephen, the Bible says he's full of the Holy Ghost, prayed to Him.
*. Acts7:59 "KJV:And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
This Stephen, after he saw Jesus, his face started shining like an angel.
*. Acts 6:15 "KJV:And all that sat in the council, looking stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the FACE OF AN ANGEL.
Note: it took Moses 40 days and 40 nights to have this kind of face.
*. Exodus 34:29 "KJV:And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in MOSES' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his FACE SHONE while he talked with him.
what am I saying?
I'm saying Moses associated with the Father and his face shone.
Stephen associated with the Son and his face shone. 2542. Maximus69: Quote Post KNOWMORE56:
Jesus says if you (Maximus69) don't believe that he is He, you will die in your sins.
John 8:24 " KJV:I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR sins.
And one of the Prophets ask you "why will you die, o Maximus69?
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Ezekiel 33:11 "
The Bible says ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM and FOR HIM.
He is the possessor of ALL THINGS.
*. Colossians 1 16 "KJV:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and FOR HIM
*. Revelation 4:11 "KJV:Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created ALL THINGS, and FOR THY PLEASURE they are and were created.
One of you asked to know who are the sons of Jesus.
And I answered that all who are created by HIM are His sons by creation.
All who are redeemed by HIM are HIS sons by redemption.
Who shall we believe, your organization or God ?
God says He used His hands to create all things.
Isaiah 45 :12 " KJV:I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, EVEN MY HANDS, HAVE stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
I believe that Jesus is the Christ Sir, that's why i am trying to learn more about what he taught while he was here! cheesy
My boss back then told me he build his business empire with his own hands, please does it mean that he had nobody working with him to build it? NO! What he meant is that the initiative comes from him!
Jesus was with God as a worker when God was creating everything, he was the one God was giving the instructions do this do that? So try to learn instead of jumping to conclusions! smiley 2541. KNOWMORE56: Quote Post Maximus69:
Jesus also called God "father" so if he is also one of God's children, how come he is the father again?
The Bible book of Colossians 1:15 say Jesus is the image of God just as humans were also created in God's image, first born of all creation. So how could the first born be the father of all creatures?
Jesus says if you (Janosky) don't believe that he is He, you will die in your sins.
John 8:24 " KJV:I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR sins.
Jesus Christ himself told KNOWMORE he will do WHATEVER his God and Father commands him.. John 7:16. John 14:31, Bros, una want to change the holy Bible by fire by force
Romans 11:35-36 , Ephesians 3:14-15. Yahweh Himself CREATED Jesus Christ. In heaven,Jesus is still OBEYING his Father's Command |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:56pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Jesus also called God "father" so if he is also one of God's children, how come he is the father again?
The Bible book of Colossians 1:15 say Jesus is the image of God just as humans were also created in God's image, first born of all creation. So how could the first born be the father of all creatures? The meaning of the '1st born of every creature' is as follows Jesus (God the Son) becomes all things that was created. Any group of creatures He changed into, He becomes 1st born/Chief/oga/ principal of the group. He abandoned His office as the true God and descended to be Chief of: Angel, man, animal,plant, rock, water, food, light, etc. Anytime you see something like this, it means they are using/ referring to the other of His offices. JESUS IN HIS OFFICES 1. In His highest office; He is God (John 1:1-3; ) 2. In His lower office; He's an Angel (Joshua 5:13) 3. In His lower-than-angels office; He's a Man/human being (Acts 2:22) 4. In His lower-than-human office; He's a Lamb, Lion (i.e animal) John 1:29; Revelation 7:17; 5:5 5. In His lower-than-animal office; He's a Plant (John 15:1-2; Matthew 15:13) 6. In His lower-than-plant office; He's a Rock (1 Corinthians 10:4; Psalms 18:31,46) 7. In His lower-than-rock office; He's a Food (John 6:33,35,48). Colossians 1 :18 "KJV:And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; THAT in ALL THINGS HE MIGHT HAVE the PREEMINENCE. Ephesians 4: 10 "KJV:He that DESCENDED is THE SAME also that ASCENDED up far above all heavens, THAT HE MIGHT FILL ALL THINGS.) It is in this His other offices that makes you think the creator is created. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:37pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Jesus also called God "father" so if he is also one of God's children, how come he is the father again?
The Bible book of Colossians 1:15 say Jesus is the image of God just as humans were also created in God's image, first born of all creation. So how could the first born be the father of all creatures? The meaning of the '1st born of every creature' is as follows |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:31pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Jesus has a God that he prayed to so i'm worshiping the God that Jesus worshiped, Jesus is NOT my own God, period!  You simply want to die in your sins. Why? * John 8:24 " KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS: for if YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins. *. Ezekiel 33:11 "KJV:Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for WHY WILL YE DIE, O house of Israel? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:30pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Jesus has a God that he prayed to so i'm worshiping the God that Jesus worshiped, Jesus is NOT my own God, period!  You simply want to die in your sins. Why? * John 8:24 " KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS: for if YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins. *. Ezekiel 33:11 "KJV:Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for WHY WILL ye die, O house of Israel? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 10:10pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: I believe that Jesus is the Christ Sir, that's why i am trying to learn more about what he taught while he was here! 
My boss back then told me he build his business empire with his own hands, please does it mean that he had nobody working with him to build it? NO! What he meant is that the initiative comes from him!
Jesus was with God as a worker when God was creating everything, he was the one God was giving the instructions do this do that? So try to learn instead of jumping to conclusions!  The Bible says He created all things by Himself and for Himself. Did your boss workers took possession of the things? Another thing I want you to know is the reason for the translation of the Bible from Hebrew/Aramaic to English, it's to help readers in English understand what it's saying. In Isaiah 9:6, and John 20:28 NWT agreed that the Son is the true God . When human/angel is referred to as god, it always carries small letter g. In religious matters, anywhere you see the big letter G, it's talking about the True God. This is a kind of law in English writing. As it is now, the NWT have knowingly or unknowingly agreed that the Son is the true God. This happened because the truth (which is Jesus) won't be hidden, no matter how much you try! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 7:58pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Jesus also called God "father" so if he is also one of God's children, how come he is the father again?
The Bible book of Colossians 1:15 say Jesus is the image of God just as humans were also created in God's image, first born of all creation. So how could the first born be the father of all creatures? Jesus is the image of the Father is not the only reason He is the true God. Jesus is prayed to and He answers prayers. Jesus said categorically that what ever you ask him in prayer, He will do it. *. John 14:14 "KJV:If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO it. Only the true God answers prayers. Stephen, the Bible says he's full of the Holy Ghost, prayed to Him. *. Acts7:59 "KJV:And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. This Stephen, after he saw Jesus, his face started shining like an angel. *. Acts 6:15 "KJV:And all that sat in the council, looking stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the FACE OF AN ANGEL. Note: it took Moses 40 days and 40 nights to have this kind of face. *. Exodus 34:29 "KJV:And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in MOSES' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his FACE SHONE while he talked with him. what am I saying? I'm saying Moses associated with the Father and his face shone. Stephen associated with the Son and his face shone. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 7:12pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Jesus also called God "father" so if he is also one of God's children, how come he is the father again?
The Bible book of Colossians 1:15 say Jesus is the image of God just as humans were also created in God's image, first born of all creation. So how could the first born be the father of all creatures? Jesus says if you (Maximus69) don't believe that he is He, you will die in your sins. John 8:24 " KJV:I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR sins. And one of the Prophets ask you "why will you die, o Maximus69? Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Ezekiel 33:11 " The Bible says ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM and FOR HIM. He is the possessor of ALL THINGS. *. Colossians 1 16 "KJV:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and FOR HIM *. Revelation 4:11 "KJV:Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created ALL THINGS, and FOR THY PLEASURE they are and were created. One of you asked to know who are the sons of Jesus. And I answered that all who are created by HIM are His sons by creation. All who are redeemed by HIM are HIS sons by redemption. Who shall we believe, your organization or God ? God says He used His hands to create all things. Isaiah 45 :12 " KJV:I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, EVEN MY HANDS, HAVE stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 8:54am On Jun 12, 2020 |
Janosky: Bros, STOP USING FRAUD TO DECEIVE YOURSELF..
Acts 7:59-60 KJV FRAUD "CALLING UPON GOD" IS A FRAUD in the KJV.
It's a FRAUD peculiar to the Textus receptus manuscript used for the KJV. Dump your FRAUD in the Dustbin.
Stephen NEVER prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word, Greek 1941.... Acts 25:11 "Paul appealed , call upon Caesar" Did Paul pray to Caesar?
WAYO Trinity GIBBERISH using FRAUD to support FRAUD
.  Each time I see you going for 'hebrews/greek, etc original', I know you are loss. See what your Creator (though you deny Him) says If you (Janosky) ask anything in His name HE WILL DO IT. John 14:14 "KJV:If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO it. That is another 'fraud' found in NWT. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by KNOWMORE56: 8:35am On Jun 12, 2020 |
Janosky: Jesus disciples could forgive sins too. Are they Fathers to those who received forgiveness ? Your organization rightly said God is Father to angels because He created them At the same time, they block you from knowing that Jesus is that God. Unfortunately, you cannot help yourself by accepting the Holy Word that says Jesus is the Creator of ALL THINGS. *. John 1:3 "KJV: ALL THINGS were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. *. Colossians 1 16 "KJV:For by him were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created BY HIM, and FOR HIM: Who shall we believe? Your organization says nothing is created by Jesus or for Jesus. But the Holy Bible says ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM. Janosky is created by Jesus and he's Jesus' son by creation! ALL who are redeemed BY HIM are His sons by redemption! |