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MaxInDHouse:
Jacob became father to Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ. Matthew 1:16

Here Matthew is talking about Mary's ancestral lineage (not Joseph's) according to Jewish custom Joseph became the son of Mary's father by marriage, that's why Matthew mentioned Mary as the one who was born from that lineage.

Jehovah’s witless scum lie so easily. But what do you expect from common cult members.

16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ

True to the disgusting form of god believers, the author of Matthew was too glad to write about an episode of infanticide (that thankfully did not happen) as another prophecy fulfilled. I don’t know who is more depraved, the assholes who came up with the bullshit stories or the jackasses who have no problem with the atrocities written about.

They have no problem with genocide because their god commanded it, they have no problem with infanticide because it’s a “prophecy”. Then they view themselves as moral paragons. Hilarious shit.

I also like when the authors of Matthew listed all the 42 generations from Abraham through David to Joseph in order to place the character as a descendant of “king David”. Then in the next breath, they render the genealogy useless because a ghost (a “holy” ghost) is the father. Hilarious shit.

ICEKING95:
You believe in the old testament but dont believe in Prophet Isaiah's prophecy, unto us a child is born and unto us a son is given....

Lmao. Christianity is not a scam but he presents a prophecy that’s lost in translation to put it lightly. Pray tell, is the child the wondrous advisor, the mighty god, the everlasting father?

Judaism version:
5For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."

Christian version:
6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Dtruthspeaker:
I don't care!

Maybe a dove or a raven.

elated177:
This one wants to put words into my mouth. Truly, my enemies are many here. Can you show me where I said, or even implied, that electronics were not run by microchips? Una don already tire.

Where is your proof that electronics aren’t run by microscopic pixies wearing invisibility cloaks?

elated177:
The proof of pudding is in the eating. Present your alternative. You see, calling a tiger an ant doesn't change the tiger's identity. Also, calling a grown man "small boy" doesn't make him one.

The evidence is all around you. You can’t see because you’re thematically blind.

43Ronin:
Hmm. But in the akkadian Epic of gilgamesh, Enkidu is known as his friend. I would have thought Enkidu would have existed earlier seeing that his name seems like a replica of the human creator Enki?

Before the Akkadian was the Sumerian epic. Before the Sumerian epic was the original from 15,000 years ago when the obliquity was at 22.99 degrees and the Ramboam sent the Nica probe into the Arctic and the Antarctic. The real Enkidu who lay with the Betulah existed in that epoch. This was before Shamash even impregnated Enki.

elated177:
What is he saying?

Where is your proof that electronics aren’t run by microscopic pixies wearing invisibility cloaks?

elated177:
Carry out your research.

My research uncovered subterranean-astronomical powers of the 4th kind and that YHVH Almighty or HaShem is absolute nonsense.

Dtruthspeaker:
Don't need to. God always packages something specific to each person so his own package is coming.

By FedEx, UPS, or DHL?

basilico:
I'm intelligent.
you are dumb and not able to manage your feeling.
Feeling because you only got one of stupidity

I’m smart!!!!! - Fredo Corleone.

43Ronin:
Final food for thought, if they were spiritual beings/gods how come they were able to have sex with women and reproduce from them if we do not share the same DNA?. No amount of beastiality can produce a human offspring.

The Thetans came down with the quanta fusion articles and used them to simulate sex with the hybrids. The DNA was then spliced with the Cepheus gene thereby producing Adam, Curo, Enkidu, and Sharuppak. They also created smooth brained obedient ones.

elated177:
Have you ever invented anything technological?

Have you? Where is your proof that electronics aren’t run but microscopic pixies wearing invisibility cloaks?

elated177:
Is this thread about the existence of the supernatural powers? Even your colleague has admitted believing in supernatural powers, albeit he called them higher powers.

What about the existence of subnatural and the invert-natural?

Before we get to higher powers, we have to figure out the low powers, medium powers, and high powers. Then we go further to the highest powers, good powers, better powers, and best powers.

Dtruthspeaker:
Surely, you would wish you had never been born for this life would never ever be well for you and every way you take shall be full of pain and misery and failure until you kill yourself or die slowly and very painfully!

Cursed is your living and cursed is your existence because you have wickedly and falsely accused The Good and Holy Creator and did not Fear Him.

All manners of evils shall follow you all the rest of the days and ye shall never dwell safely.

Lmao. You should cap it off by sending bears to maul him.

Wilgrea7:
For example, God saying “Oh ye man, build a device that runs on land, with 4 large black wheels, 2 seats in front and 3 at the back, and an engine to propel it" .. that would make sense.

That’s not proof of anything but that the author lives in the era of automobiles. The only proof of a god is the god showing up in person.

elated177:
He was the one who boldly made such an assertion. He should be able to tell us how he is sure that the supernatural hasn't played any part, directly or indirectly, in the technological advancements.

He is sure because the “supernatural” is how you people describe your imaginary friends and imaginary beings are utterly ineffectual because they don’t exist.

That being said, it is the sabbath, your imaginary friend of the Jewish persuasion requires you to turn electronic devices off.

elated177:
A glorious Sabbath.

Are you supposed to be using electronic devices on the sabbath?

https://jewishaction.com/religion/whats-wrong-with-texting-on-shabbat-a-halachic-analysis-2/

Therefore, unless we are discussing a doctor or soldier using a cell phone or e-reader on Shabbat for his vital work, or some similar mitigating circumstance, we cannot permit the electronic use entailed.

I 8 2 say it but Barcelona looked like they wanted to cry.

Sixfiguresmart:
Are you one of those immune to delusion?

Not accepting nonsense is the first step in immunizing yourself against delusion.

Sixfiguresmart:
If yes, on what is your conviction?

Highest ideal humanity can reach for is the improvement of the welfare of all while recognizing our shared experience and acknowledging the brevity of said experience.

Sixfiguresmart:
Good to hear your opinion. Do you personally approve of life sentencing?

I don't know what these questions have to do with the genocide and other depravity performed by Moses and his Lord but I'll answer anyway.
Yes. Some people can't be rehabilitated and their offences are egregious enough for them to be permanently separated from the general population since their offence causes societal strife.

Sixfiguresmart:
What is your proposition regarding crime control?

Treating the psychological and societal ills that lead to crime and creating pathways to reduction in recidivism,

Sixfiguresmart:
How should serial felons be treated, give me your template.

Depends on the felony.

Sixfiguresmart:
Do you approve of using fumigation or pest control chemicals?

Yes. There earth wasn't "created" for us like the religious think and it's apparent that some things that are a part of the earth, like we are, happen to be harmful to us.

Sixfiguresmart:
Do you eat beef or fish?

Yes, I consume all foods that I find palatable and agreeable. All of the foods come from other organisms, flora and fauna. I'll eat a cow (beef) and I'll eat a ear of corn.

Sixfiguresmart:
You see how your knees are dropping again.

No. The saying doesn't make a lick of sense and there is no implied meaning to be gleaned from what you write.

Sixfiguresmart:
If you do not do religion, what do you do then?

Skepticism, edification, and clarification

Sixfiguresmart:
Kindly define religion to me.

Adherence to unfounded doctrines, dogma, rites, and rituals handed down by authorities as part of a formal organization which purports to give existential meaning to its members. The authorities claim that the doctrines and dogma are either handed down from entities that cannot be proven to exist or that they are derived from some other extraordinary source.

Sixfiguresmart:
Well, I have not displayed ignorance to the killings in the Bible, have I? What I have done so far is to own the killings of bad men as listed in the Bible.

No, you have disingenuously ignored all the othe people who were not "bad men". Also, people commiting genocide can't call other people "bad men". The Nazis called the Jews of Europe "bad people" while commuting genocide. Rape, pillaging, murder, infanticide, homicide etc are actions approved by the abrahamic god.

Sixfiguresmart:
Rebellious people who fall short of God's righteous standard. I believe that any Christian refuting the killings in the Bible is not a believing Christian. He is a lukewarm leech.

This god is a bloodthirsty psychopath whose standard would land any human being in criminal court for all manners of crime against humanity. There's nothing morally upright about your god. Christianity's greatest achievement is taking that psychotic creature and making it more deplorable.

Sixfiguresmart:
And, just to make it louder for you, more killings are coming. This is even going to be more disturbing and on a larger scale but the time his kingdom comes. Jehovah God will bring massive destruction upon all who refuse to obey him and do his will. This is not going to be like the old when selected nations are annihilated. This is going to be ALL, I mean, a collection of all sinners. So, include this in your arsenal as you come through.

Make it as loud as you want proving my point that you Abrahamic sociopaths are cut from the same blood-soaked cloth. You fantasize about human misery and have the nerve to call yourselves "righteous". Christianity is indeed a delusion.

Sixfiguresmart:
With that being said, we refute any entanglements with Arabs who kill for the crave of it. They kill for Hubal, the pagan god of the Ka'aba.

And Christians kill for Jesus and Yahweh, the pagan gods of Israel.

Sixfiguresmart:
Jesus came with love and asked use not to hurt any soul. Our God will bring the judgment on them by himself with his son. We are not in the bloodbath business. Our God will take care of that.

There is no judgement, your god and his son are myths, and Christians have been in the blood-bath business since the 4th century.

Sixfiguresmart:
Well, the last point is where your knees touch the ground.

Que?

Sixfiguresmart:
And, to be sure, we do not go on trying to deflect what is written in the Bible. We own it. Yes! It is written in the HOLY SCRIPTURES.

Maybe you shouldn’t speak for “we” because you never know who amongst you would deflect or put one atrocity or the other “in context”. It might be holy scriptures but that doesn’t really mean anything to some immune from the delusion.

Sixfiguresmart:
For you, Muslims to own a single line in the quran, there will be a bloodbath. Do you see the difference?

No, I don’t see the difference. They are both cut from the same bloodstained cloth and are equally soaked in blood.

Sixfiguresmart:
You will kill me if I showed you a page that exposes the lies in your religion. Just because you know that it is damaging. You want to hide the lies and go on deceiving innocent souls.

I don’t do religion and even if I did it certainly won’t be the madness of the Abrahamic faiths. My initial post was not to defend some Arab mongrel religion but to show that you are the same despite Christians’ ignorance of history
and their own “holy scriptures”.

Sixfiguresmart:
How many slaves were captured by their skin color by Moses?

Their brand of bigotry appears tribal which isn’t less harmful than bigotry based on skin color. Their particular expertise was creating horrible origin stories for their victims e.g. the Canaanites being the descendants of Canaan cursed by Noah.!

Sixfiguresmart:
How many rape victims did the God of Abraham have?

I haven’t done a full accounting but the Lord received 32 virgins after the genocide of the Midianites.

Numbers 31:41 Moses gave the tribute to Eleazar the priest as the Lord’s part, as the Lord commanded Moses

Sixfiguresmart:
And, how did the people that you claim they murdered come to be in the first?

How else if not born just like everybody else and minding their own business until the Lord, Moses, and the Chosenites showed up and commenced with the genocide parties.

God, spirit, soul, thetan, jinn, orisha, saints, holiness and all other things called “sacred” or “divine” have arbitrary definitions based on the intellect, knowledge base, and vocabulary of the person making the claim.

Not an interesting answer but it is the truth that you can observe yourself.

Let me go eat a steak, meanwhile people who like to paint red dots on their foreheads think cows are “holy” or “sacred”.

Sixfiguresmart:
Little wonder why that narcissist went on a killing spree. The most celebrated murderer in history.

Can you blame him? He learned from the most prolific murderers in all of literature: Moses and the god of Abraham or is it Ibrahim.

OkCornel:
Jewish scholars and historians are in a better position to evaluate their history compared to foreigners.

That’s the basic logic at play here.

And mind you, I insisted on the viewpoint of all Jewish historians and scholars. Not just one person.

Avoidance as expected.

OkCornel:
And would the “white” man after performing his research tell you an entirely false narrative of your history and ancestry, would you accept their story above that of your ancestors?

Why would I accept something if it is a false narrative? Plausibility and credibility with evidence determines whether something is true not the amount of pigmentation in one’s skin. If my ancestors or the foreigner claim that King Shango became a deity, I wouldn’t believe either party because the claim is incredible and implausible. Their ethnicity does not matter regarding the truth of the claim.

OkCornel:
Where did Tacitus and Suetonius claim Jesus Christ who was condemned to death by Pontius Pilate is the same as Serapis?

And where did you see anyone claim that they wrote about Jesus and Serapis?!!!
Let me repeat the question once more to clear up any difficulty you seem to be having.

Do you believe Tacitus’ and Suetonius’ claims about the divine Vespasian just because they were Romans?

Also, I’m sure there are plenty Jewish historians who don’t believe in biblical stories. Would you then believe one them if he says Jesus didn’t exist?

OkCornel:
If you never claimed Jesus Christ is Serapis, why are you quoting me on the subject matter. That question was for the OP.

I questioned your stance that only Jewish scholars or historians are qualified to make claims about the historicity of Jesus or whether he is Serapis.

OkCornel:
If you agree a white man knows the history of you and your ancestors better than you and your ancestors. Your point would make a lot of sense. However we both know that’s ridiculous. Now apply that same logic to the question I posed to the OP earlier.

If the “white” man does his due diligence and present his supporting evidence, them he can know more. I’m not infallible and all my ancestors weren’t historians so if a “white” scholar does the work, his whiteness wouldn’t be an issue. It’s the scholarship that matters.

OkCornel:
Kindly provide evidences from all Jewish scholars and historians unanimously claiming Jesus Christ is Serapis.

Read my previous post and see if I made the claim that Jesus is Serapis. I made that very clear!!! Regardless, why do you want Jewish scholarship regarding Jesus when Christianity as you know it is an invention of the Roman Empire?


You avoided my question. Do you believe Tacitus’ and Suetonius’ claim about the “divine”’Vespasian just because they were Romans?

MaxInDHouse:
My comments are for those reading with open minds not just those with preconceived thoughts!

And mine are for those still capable of rational thought, you cultish slowpoke.

MaxInDHouse:
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"
The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST and trust comes in when you have something tangible to do with the subject.
Seeing Elijah's chariot could mean something for credulous individuals but it's of no use to true believers because we have "HOPE" in what God promised so our faith is built not on what was written alone but most importantly on being eyewitnesses of the progressive fulfilment even though we don't see anything supernatural neither are we there when those promises were made! Hebrews 11:1

Man, stfu.

OkCornel:
If a Yoruba man knows the history of the Germans better than all German historians and scholars…or the other way around, your point would be valid. But we both know that’s ridiculous.

Why isn’t it possible for a Yoruba man to know better than all German historians? Isn’t it scholarship? If the scholarship is thorough then it’s quite possible.

The ethnicity of a person making an incredible or implausible claim doesn’t matter. Tacitus and Seutonius wrote regarding Vespasian leaving Judea for Rome to take the throne. On his route back to Rome, he is written to have left Judea for Alexandria where he went to worship in the temple of Serapis Chrestus. While there he is written to have healed a lame person and a blind person, which were miracles to prove his divinity. Do you believe the story because they were Roman historians writing about a Roman or do you disbelieve it because it’s incredible and implausible, and reads like propaganda,”?

the point thing is that a person’s ethnicity doesn’t matter but the support for the claims made which have to be plausible and credible.

If a Jewish historian finds a 2000 year old charred chariot and claims it is Elijah’s fiery chariot, would you believe him just because he is Jewish?

OkCornel:
Is that what the Jews think about Jesus Christ?

If yes, kindly provide evidence of Jewish historians and scholars unanimously agreeing Jesus Christ is Serapis.

A Nigerian man claims to know more about Jewish history better than Jewish historians and scholars…this seems to be the latest joke in town.

Not to support the OP but what does Jewish thought and opinion have to do with the truth of the matter?
It doesn’t matter if Jewish historians support or oppose the historicity of Jesus or Serapis. What matters is if there is any evidence for his existence regardless if the source is Jewish or not.

Although there is no reason to think Serapis is Jesus or whatever nonsense the OP is claiming, the source being non-Jewish shouldn’t play a role in you accepting or rejecting his claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJtHdkyo0hc

https://www.livescience.com/19106-death-experiences-lucid-dreams.html

Nelson said conclusions from the research should be "cautiously drawn" until the findings pass the peer-review process, but they are nonetheless well-aligned with prior research on NDEs. "Lucid dreaming can be conditioned and bears an uncanny similarity to near-death," Nelson told Life's Little Mysteries. "Indeed, Raduga's study demonstrates the similarity of near-death and lucid dreaming. Evidence from many sources converges to support that lucid dreaming and near-death use similar brain mechanisms but in different circumstances."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbU3zdAgiX8