Christianity Etc › Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by KnownUnknown: 4:59pm On Aug 05, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by KnownUnknown: 4:55pm On Aug 05, 2022 |
Joshthefirst: The true story of Christian mission work from Europe to Africa is an incredible story of love and sacrifice. The only love involved is the love of money stoked by unbounded avarice. They sold you the asinine concept of original sin, the snake oil called salvation, and their image (the popular image of Jesus) to worship. They shed their “dark ages” and y’all have embraced it. They tell you a foreign ethnocentric god is a universal god and you believe them. The call your theology and metaphysics “juju” (French Jou Jou meaning plaything) while selling you nonsense about some virgin-born jew who came to die for you. Look around you, the proof of their scam and successful heist to build their societies is more than obvious. Meanwhile, you people are waiting for some jew to ride a horse down from space to save you or maybe you’re waiting to die so you can go be a slave to this “lord and master” in heaven. https://www.ecclesio.com/2015/04/the-roots-of-the-doctrine-of-discovery-aric-clark/This sustained period of domination and exploitation was hardest on indigenous peoples around the world whose rights to the land they had lived in, in some cases for thousands of years, were not recognized by the colonizers. European Christians claimed the territory and resources of indigenous peoples with extreme violence. Native people were either killed, displaced, or forced to conform to the language and culture of the invaders. The effects of these crimes reverberate through our society. We are only just beginning to deal with the consequences of our colonial history. Christians have a particular role in grappling with this injustice, because the Europeans who engaged in the colonial project did so with explicit theological justification. They were acting according to something called the Doctrine of Discovery, which essentially says that only Christians are fully human and entitled to own land. “Pagans and infidels” have the right of occupancy until such time as their land is “discovered” by a properly Christian authority, then their rights and their lives are basically forfeit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is Jesus God ? by KnownUnknown: 1:24pm On Aug 05, 2022 |
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Romance › Re: How Do I Explain To My Friend That Fifteen Year Old Girls Are Children?! by KnownUnknown: 11:57am On Aug 05, 2022 |
He is a man after God’s heart. Like the holy scriptures say:
Only the young girls who are virgins; you may keep them for yourselves. So he is right to chase 15 year old PYTs. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 7:04pm On Aug 03, 2022*. Modified: 9:24pm On Aug 03, 2022 |
jmoore: You are free to believe your MISUNDERSTANDING.
Someone with your mindset will say football clubs are using players as slaves because they sell player to other clubs and buy players from other clubs. Lol. This doesn’t even make any sense. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 6:51pm On Aug 03, 2022 |
jmoore: Comprehension demands you understand CONTEXT and not just use words.
Debt Slavery as it is described in Israelite law, was a way in which a family could deal with debt. Imagine that you are an ancient Israelite—the head of a household. You spend all day farming and keeping a small flock of sheep and goats, helped by everyone in your extended household. What do you do if you have a bad year, and are unable to feed your family? The answer is that you borrow from someone who has enough surplus grain (or some other commodity) to lend you. Under Israelite law, this loan would be interest-free (Lev 25:35–37), but you still need to pay back.what you borrowed.
But now imagine that you have another bad year, and so you need to borrow again. Year after year, your debt accumulates, and you have no way to pay it back. Unless your intention is to default on the loan—effectively stealing from the one who lent to you at no interest rather than selling his grain—your only option is to repay your debt with your only means available, the labor of the people in your household. Does this sound like “debt slavery”? Put it in whatever context you wish: Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 5:37pm On Aug 03, 2022 |
jmoore: Exodus 21:16 says, “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.”
In almost every instance, the kind of slavery that was authorized was debt-slavery, where an individual would offer to work for someone for 6 years to pay off a debt. Employer/Employee. It would be like you coming to work for me to pay off all of your debts, in which you'd be treated like family and provided with room & board. If they were mistreated, the masters (employers) were punished.
AS YOU CAN SEE, CLEARLY NOT THE SAME SLAVERY OF MY ANCESTORS. Although slave masters in the 1800s would try to use the Bible to justify racial slavery, common sense would tell you that they didn't know Christ. Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ,doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 12:23pm On Aug 03, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: We're both PREACHING, your comments is to frustrate believers in God so i'm using mine to frustrate your effort. So never think my comments is to convince you alone but in actual fact it's a two edged sword {Hebrews 4:12} proving how stupid you are while thinking you figured out everything in the Bible then others who truly appreciate facts will read and see your folly!  CHUG CHUG forgives you for calling me stupid. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 5:06am On Aug 03, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The God of Israel is the one and only true God he decided to leave mankind so they can learn the hard way since our first parents chose to liberate themselves from under his guidance!
Slavery came as a result of what Adam and Eve wanted to become:
"in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad" Genesis 3:5
Adam and Eve are already like Gods to lesser creatures so for their godship to be complete generations of mankind must worship not God but Adam and Eve as we will all become their slaves!
Sadly majority of mankind followed the footsteps of the first human pair so God wants us to learn from experience. But among His own worshipers he has given them a law to show his displeasure regarding slavery:
“If you buy a Hebrew slave, he will serve as a slave for six years, but in the seventh year, he will be set free without paying anything" Exodus 21:2
Back then the descendants of Abraham are known as (Hebrews) so if an Israelite should use his money to buy a slave and the slave happens to be Hebrew then he must serve his owner for six years for the owner to get back his money with which he bought his brother!
Throughout the world of that time there's no nation with such thought except the Israelites because their God detests the idea of slavery. So the Israelites realized that if they want to buy a slave they mustn't buy a Hebrew unless they have the intention of setting him free!
Again in all other nations slaves could be killed at will since they're like properties to their owners but that's not the case in Israel! Exodus 21:12
I really wish you calm down and study God's word (Bible) with God's people (JWs) i'm sure you will appreciate as in LOVE the true God as you do so, then you will know why JWs are the most dedicated worshipers of their God on this planet!  I’m not engaging with this because “You’ve got aggression written all over you”. Everything you wrote is nonsense anyway because CHUG CHUG is God. No need to add “only true god” because it’s apparent that CHUG CHUG is The One. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 4:00am On Aug 03, 2022 |
budaatum: And there's the perspective. Note that we are the readers of the stories the people wrote and they don't tell us what what they wrote means to free minded us now. We are after all no more children whom they tell what to do but responsible adults who can think and reason for ourselves. And it’s clear by what they wrote that they had no problems with slavery and thought it moral. Note Ephesians Chapter 6 as posted for a clear example. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 3:58am On Aug 03, 2022 |
budaatum: Note that the slaves of the Egyptians were not told to "obey your earthly masters", and in fact are written to have had their God fighting against their masters for them which was a hit in antebellum America, you might find, even if obey your master was the preferred reading of the masters.
That aside, I do not think you are claiming that The Bible is a "wonderful tools of enslavement, colonization, and manipulation" even if the priesthood may have used it to enslave, colonize and manipulate. One, I think, should not determine toolability by the ineptitude of the craft persons wielding it. I could after all choose to enslave with the Garden of Eden but see how I am pointing it out as a tool of emancipation, or have I twisted it too far from your established understanding of the narrative? Basically, can it not be inferred to mean what I say it means, at least to me? (O how I wish we could move on to implications).
It is a very complex book written in antiquity with various authors writing over many centuries and from different perspectives so it is not all to be and has not been looked at nor seen from one single perspective. The Temptation of Christ shows two contradictory perspectives of the same text, and Jesus' constant battles with the priesthood are about perspective too, and by golly, different books even contradict each other a la Paul's faith versus James' work, so twisting is par for the course I'd say.
What we are discussing is not nonsense. You would not invest your time discussing it if it were nonsense. You just drone on and on and on………. The Bible is a wonderful tool of enslavement, colonization, and manipulation. That is exactly what I mean and history and contemporary times bear witness. Nonsense is not what we are discussing but your particular position. The Bible supports slavery explicitly and implicitly no matter your interpretation of Genesis Chapter 3, which, by the way, has nothing to do with slavery. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 2:06am On Aug 03, 2022 |
budaatum: In fact the entire book is about that one single purpose of do not allow yourself to be enslaved,. You often twist yourself in knots over nonsense. Your position is obviously indefensible no matter what interpretation you give to the Bible to justify it. The Bible and priestcraft remain wonderful tools of enslavement, colonization, and manipulation. In the name of their “lord and master”, Jesus. Ephesians 6: 5. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart,just as you would obey Christ. 6. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ,doing the will of God from your heart. Although addressed to some people in Ephesus, the above would have been a hit in antebellum America (and still a hit amongst some Christian whites). The enslaved would have responded with verses about Moses and the exodus, then the slavers would have responded with verses of the Israelites and their own slaves. Neither would have produced any verses condemning slavery because the people who wrote the stories had no problem with slavery and thought it moral. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 2:18pm On Aug 02, 2022 |
Maynnmann: It’s not that deep.  Oh, no doubt about that. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Baldness Something To Be Ashamed Of? by KnownUnknown: 1:34pm On Aug 02, 2022 |
oaroloye: YAHWEH GOD IS THE SUPREME BEING AND SOURCE OF ALL LIFE- YOU HAVE PERMANENTLY DAMNED YOURSELF BY CALLING HIM A SAVAGE!
No Atheist has ever answered me, when I have asked: WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE COMMANDED INSTEAD?
Elisha just finished experiencing what happens when Evil Brats like those are allowed to grow up.
Their behavior was consistent with the louts of Sodom- which is explained in horrific detail in THE BOOK OF JASHER. CHUG CHUG IS THE SUPREME BEING AND SOURCE OF ALL LIFE- YOU HAVE PERMANENTLY DAMNED YOURSELF BY GLORIFYING YAHWEH THE MALEVOLENT! No Yahwehphile has ever answered me, when I have asked: WHY IS HE SO VIOLENT? Elisha just finished displaying all the malevolent nature of the Epitome of Evil. His behavior was consistent with the louts of Israel- which is explained in horrific detail in THE BIBLE. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do People Always Equate Atheists With Having No Morals by KnownUnknown: 1:15pm On Aug 02, 2022 |
Maynnmann: And hope you know that a Sango, ogun and yahweh worshipper are all THEIST. Is this new knowledge to you? Why would you write that as if she doesn’t know? Maynnmann: The problem is with people that don’t worship any of these deities, an athiest? What? |
Crime › Re: 'I Am Not For Evil' — Slay Queen Caught With Charms Cries (Pictures) by KnownUnknown: 12:54pm On Aug 02, 2022 |
Lascivious cretins, what is her crime?
Pay her for the transaction and let her go. Maybe I should be a p!mp for the girl. The customer will cough up the money and shut up about charms with a gun aimed at his head and a proper ass whooping.
Pay the girl and STFU, you superstitious jackass. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by KnownUnknown: 11:51am On Aug 02, 2022 |
Sweet plum and Maynmann. At this point, both of you have made your points  Please, for the love of Yahweh and the Shasu, stop! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by KnownUnknown: 10:06pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
@Budaatum Yahweh and his shasu horde have spiritually derailed this thread. You need to consult the genealogy chart of Shem for some answers.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 9:49pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: It's like you're not in the mood for this so let's leave it for some other time. Thanks for your time!   I guess. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 8:49pm On Aug 01, 2022*. Modified: 9:23pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The "God of Israel" gave Himself that title not because if He only favors Jerusalem but rulers must start their kind gesture from somewhere before extending to other territories. The true God need to start from somewhere by setting up rules and standards which will reflect the type of God He is. For your the same God of Israel will punish the Israelites by Himself if they mistreat strangers!  The "God of Burkinabe" gave Godself that title not because if G only favors Ouagadougou but rulers must start their kind gesture from somewhere before extending to other territories. The true God need to start from somewhere by setting up rules and standards which will reflect the type of Godliness. For your the same God of Burkinabe does not stoop to the level of humans and is able to guide humans not to mistreat strangers!  MaxInDHouse: It's like aggression is written all over you so go back and read the former post answers to these questions are there. This is the most bemusing response. How exactly do these questions indicate aggressiveness? What is a spirit? Where is the spirit realm? How do spirits live? MaxInDHouse: Can you enlighten me on the highlighted? Sentient beings who are more intelligent and powerful than humans could exist in other star systems in the universe. There are enough stars for this to be likely. The question you avoided remains: Where is the spiritual realm? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 5:12pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: [1] One ruler.
[2] 144,000 to be chosen from all the nations on planet earth. Initially all of them supposed to come from Israel but due to the unfaithfulness of Israelites the invitation was blown open to other nationalities.
[3] Humble and obedient mankind throughout the earth!
[4] Jerusalem was the first and last place the God of Israel established His government headed by imperfect humans and consisting of imperfect citizens!
[5] There was no other place where God ruled through imperfect humans on planet earth!
[6] Spirit realms where spirits lives!
[7] Higher form of life much more intelligent and powerful than humans!
Thanks! Seeing that this Kingdom belongs to the God of Israel who favors Jerusalem, will there be a problem for those aligned with the God of Burkinabe who favors Ouagadougou? I’m asking because some “humble and obedient” people may prefer God’s convention to what the God of Israel is offering. What is a spirit? Where is the spirit realm? How do spirits live? I can fathom “Higher form of life much more intelligent and powerful than humans” that exists in our world/universe/physical realm but I still don’t know what you mean by spiritual realm. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 4:40pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: BORN AGAIN means prospective co-rulers with the Christ to be taken to the new Kingdom site (government house) which is no longer Jerusalem but heaven {John 14:1-3} they can't go as humans so they must be transformed into spirit beings! 1Corinthians 15:50 How many rulers does this kingdom have? How many co-rulers will this kingdom have? Who will be the ruled? What’s so special about the patch of dirt called Jerusalem? What makes it more special than Ouagadougou? Where is heaven? What is a spirit being? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 3:46pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
Image123: Are you born again? I don’t know what that means. That’s why I asked. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 12:29pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
Image123: The sentence is not for laymen, you MUST be born again. What does it mean to be “born again”? Everybody talks about John 3:16 but the gist of the chapter lays in the first 15 verses. Nicodemus asked Jesus what it means to be born again and Jesus proceeded to, putting it mildly, chat absolute nonsense and never answered the question. What does it mean to be “born again”? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by KnownUnknown: 12:21pm On Aug 01, 2022 |
Image123: The Bible is a spiritual book that largely deals with spiritual facts. Can you translate this sentence to layman’s language please? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Universal Codesu : Immortals View On Suicide by KnownUnknown: 4:58am On Jul 30, 2022 |
Amunethseranu: Lilith ??  Yes! She was one of the seven sisters but she escaped and found the garden of the gods where she lay with Shamash and begat Adam. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Universal Codesu : Immortals View On Suicide by KnownUnknown: 4:54am On Jul 30, 2022 |
Amunethseranu: An atheist or freethinker? Do you know the greatest in abomination lies in the river bank of Tigris and Euphrates? More than 200,000 serpental anakhims were buried there in Euphrates ,close to 2million dead anakhims were dumped there. What of millions ancient freethinkers buried alive 100,000 years before creation of Adam. In 13th Leo, 4078BC Jesus ( as Ell) poured a great and atrocious substance blue in colour to destroy evidence over there then collapsed the ecosystem of that blessed region ...spits Note River bed of Euphrates has the strangest of elements after R .Amazon on earth's river . Forget about the Tigris and Euphrates; you should see what’s beneath the Kwara and how it connects through the labyrinth of fonth to the Danube!! The portal to this sentient enabled the passage of the tentative beings to be reified in the clary of Barbelo. Thus the dumping and burial are proper. The Tenssia lived during the epoch of 22.1 degrees and 1AU of the main glory and did many things. Even before Lilith begat Adam in the penultimate epoch of Cepheus, the great ones and the jabronis were one. But the real evidence was destroyed during the 1 billion years when “nothing happened” and the oceans where liquid black. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Universal Codesu : Immortals View On Suicide by KnownUnknown: 3:45am On Jul 30, 2022 |
Amunethseranu: shamash it sounds anakhian to me my dear! It’s actually Robodian by the way of Lakan. I met Guru Magi on the banks of the Euphrates and got connected to the main node. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Universal Codesu : Immortals View On Suicide by KnownUnknown: 1:50am On Jul 30, 2022 |
Amunethseranu: Like sisterfire ( Daughter of phosphorus, light bender & light on the face of the deep ) Shamash touched my soul and led me to correct the honorific of sisterfire. Carry on  |
Autos › Re: Innoson Sues Imo Govt Over N2.5bn Debt by KnownUnknown: 6:21pm On Jul 29, 2022 |
Abominable creatures trying to ruin a man’s business. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Cult Of The Askers And Knøckers And Seekers by KnownUnknown: 12:49pm On Jul 29, 2022 |
budaatum: I am now going to try really very hard from letting you further make me derail this thread. Maynmann is either insane or a bot. Lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Baldness Something To Be Ashamed Of? by KnownUnknown: 11:13am On Jul 29, 2022 |
gohf: what rubbish is this one saying Just highlighting your self righteous delusion, you slowpoke. I can also tell your lord to send a couple of Pitbulls to maul you if you don’t mind yourself.  |