₦airaland Forum

eventainment:
➜Well if the aim of relationships is for mutual benefits and sex isn't suppose to be part of the bargain cause it's not a tool of exchange but of mutual consent. Although it takes maturity to move on without trying to be petty in relationships but my own point of view is this: don't give what you can't give away without feeling too much impact on the gift. Giving my wife my strength and resources is a must but relationship/dating is more elite testing waters to see if couples are fit to marry themselves. It's not the place to put so much more than what you can freely give

For you, those relationships may be just that, but for women many of whom end up investing time, emotional, mental, and physical energy in addition to bearing much of the mental load that is the relationship, it is more than that and as such there is need for them to ensure they at least benefit something from the exchange.

Again, I suggest that for those of you who think a wife alone should get gifts from you, please stick to patronizing pr0stitutes since you also seem to be amenable to their demands for strict payment for their time and physical energy.

Walezy2020:
One of the reason it's very bad to be fully providing for a lady that one is yet marry even the ones that's inside marriage already do Bleep up how much more person thats one is yet to marry.if the guy follow the lady drags it she won't release the properties now that this had happened i think the lady can only take her loads back if those things are bought in her name means na her name dey on the receipts

Please stick to Pr0stitutes until you get married, that way you don't need to worry about these sort of things as you are instead forced to pay exactly how much you owe.

ogaontop:
➜From the law you quoted, what "proven" assurances or agreements can she provide that will show the gift is unconditional?
➜ Legal battles are not straightforward as you see written on paper. A good lawyer will claim conditions of "as far we are dating", the gift is yours. When it's not written down anywhere, he may not prove it, and she can't prove otherwise, so what happens?
Exercise in futility! If she even cheated in the course of the relationship and if the guy proves it as a fact, another legal technicality will come in.

What you are struggling with is a lack of comprehension. The answer you seek is right there for you to glean.

Legal battles do not change the letter of the law or how it works.

ogaontop:
➜Which legal implications? when many guys deliberately buy those things in their name and reserve the receipt. What evidence have you that it rightly belongs to you? Even the car people have seen you driving everyday, if a legal case happens and you can't prove ownership, it will be taken away from you. Nigerian law is still at the level of providing strong evidences, words of mouth (except recorded and verified) or assumptions may not win you a case here!!

Read the information presented below.

1Alex:
you don talk your own, e sweet for your mouth. Did you know the circumstances under which the items were given to the girl?
The key offence is “obtaining property by false pretence.”
Under the Criminal Code, a person commits this offence when they get money or property from someone by making a false claim they know isn’t true, and they intend to deceive the other person.
For this scenario, the law would apply if the guy can show that:
1. She made a false statement — for example, claiming she loved him while knowing she didn’t.
2. She made that statement to get the gifts.
3. He relied on that statement when giving the gifts.
4. She intended to deceive him from the start.
If he can prove those things, then the girl will even pay for emotional damage join.

Let's pretend for a second that what you posted somehow applies in this case, where in what you have above does it state that the person who was defrauded in that case is allowed to violate trespassing laws and other criminal codes in an attempt to retrieve or claim said property?

wirinet:
✓ Without the receipt, you cannot process change of ownership document.

You are not making sense. I suggest you go back and review the image attached to the original comment for explanation you need here..🤔

wirinet:
➜How can you prove a vehicle was gifted to you, without receipt or other documentation? You would need documentation before the vehicle is allowed to change ownership, and have it registered in your name.

Usually, when folks gift cars to others, they ensure the documents pertaining to the vehicle, not necessarily the receipt that was used to purchase it, are transferred to the recipient. This ain't nothing new to any of us.

wirinet:
➜What of transfer of ownership? If you gifted a car or even a TV to your girlfriend but the receipts and documents are still in your name, what happens if you want your items back?

If the documents of the car are not in the gift recipient's name, then the donor can argue that it was not meant as a gift in that case, but would likely need to provide communication that makes this claim explicitly known to the other party.

But if you gift a person a car, you make certain at that point that all documents on the car are in that person's name. That much is known to all.

Mamaafrik1:
➜He who furnished her room is the kid but she who benefitted is the what? You need to leave feeding bottle bro and grow up.

Kids are able to take back gifts— of course, parents are supposed to teach them better about not taking things back that they have given to others. However, adults are under the law, and the law is clear that forcibly taking gifts back may earn them charges of theft and home invasion.

Silentgroper:
➜All of this only holds if the items gifted is in her name ..

Wrong! Go back and re-read what the legal suggests instead. A gift does not need to come with a receipt or a name attached. It simply needs to be delivered and completely gifted by a donor to a recipient.

EDGEof2MORO:
➜of course it is threatened because you single unmarried women do not like seeing other women in happy marriages.
➜ Now, why are you still chatting with another woman's husband on nairaland even after he has passed his message clearly on the initial topic of the thread. Funny thing is that my wife is reading all these messages and laughing thank you for the free entertainment now, go away.

1. So, rather than take accountability for your marriage existing in an obviously fragile state, you would rather look for ways to blame third parties? I told you earlier that I grew up around many tiny-brained men such as yourself, right?

2. You mean this other woman's husband, who is desperately trying to make it seem all women are a threat and problem with his marriage, right? Nonsense! 🥱🥱🥱🥱

EDGEof2MORO:
➜your single unmarried life scares me. abeg find another topic jor. i am tired. go and disturb someone else

I am glad you admit, in your own words, that your married reality is not as happy as you formerly claimed, given that it is threatened by the existence of single, unmarried women out there who could potentially befriend your wife.

GENERALFRENKIE:
➜He may claimed he borrowed it to you

He would have to provide possible written documentation of this leasing of the items then, and prove that this was clearly communicated to the recipient, at the time of the exchange. 🥱🥱🥱

EDGEof2MORO:
1. You are one of those people
2. She has awesome friends that I know and even tells me about some of her friends I have not met.

Then what are you still afraid of?

aBimboLaGsaucE:
➜A colleague of mine went on the 4th date with a lady, with the hope that the lady would comply and go into the room with him.
The lady was ordering what should wouldn't have order if she was the one to pay. During their discussion, the lady gave hints about not willing to go into the closed space with him. Long story short, my guy stylishly left the location thereby allowing the lady to sort out the whole bill.
I felt that was a great pay back. What would you have done in such a situation.

I hope the lady has an image of the guys and posts a storytime on social media about what transpired. She needs to warn other women about this man so he does not take advantage of other women after this.

OP, it seems your friend wanted a pr0stitute, and not a girlfriend. So why didn't he simply get himself one? Why go through all those dates only to get nothing in the end? What was the point?

eventainment:
➜Now for this law a smart way to avoid this law going against you is buying everything for the girl in your name hence she is just a caretaker of what you bought and na person name way de property na buy am. When ladies use relationship as an avenue to generate revenue men need to be wise else they will be pimping a lady for someone else. So as a man no over do. Make sure you've spent on your parents and sisters before spending on that girl.
➜ I can't buy for a girl what I've not done for my sister. Na so some guys go de buy iPhone for babe and their sister de use rubbish phone. Family stays till the end no matter my status. But this is different for a WIFE. Wife first (with caution as well) before family members.

Trying to blame the lady in this case for the man choosing to gift her all those things is tiny-brained and an attempt to avoid holding these men accountable for their immature behavior towards women who reject or dump them in love.

A woman does not owe a man her life in any sort of relationship. The moment she believes she no longer benefits from a relationship with any man, or she conceives that she is investing more than she benefits from the union, she has every right to exit the relationship. So, men who think they are entitled to a woman's time and energy without reciprocal return are just being ridiculous. Also, men who date women whom they realize are above their league, only to then cry foul when such women decide they are ready to level up, are not victims but immature beings. And I truly believe these men should be penalized by women like these. I really wish the woman in the OP would get advice to call the cops and report the man and his friends to the police for what they need.

2. You should probably not bother dating any woman at all, because after all is said and done, it seems many of you do not need lovers, but pr0stitutes who would only charge you for the cost of the exact time and physical labor they invest in you—with none of the emotional and mental investment that lovers bring. I think many of you are doing the wrong thing by looking for girlfriends when what you need are pr0stitutes.

GENERALFRENKIE:
➜It's not robbing if your name is on the receipt ask any good lawyer you know

Why do you people keep skirting the facts here?

The image I posted clearly informs you that, in the case of a gift, once the gift changes hands from the donor to the recipient, it becomes the property of the recipient. (It no longer matters that the donor has the receipt.) And once that has happened, forcibly retrieving a gift without consent(from the recipient) can be considered a crime, such as theft or forceful entry.

elipheleh:
➜The girl does not have receipts for any of those items.
➜ The guy can accuse her of theft and she will go to jail. Poor girls should stop entering relationships. Don't enter relationships to obtain by false pretense. That is 419. A criminal offense.
➜ Poor girls should meet their father to buy them gifts

You didn't read the details presented in that image at all, did you? Do you know what a gift is?

Under Nigerian law, once an unconditional gift is validly given and accepted, ownership is fully transferred to the recipient, and the giver has no legal right to demand it back after a breakup. Forcibly retrieving a gift without consent can be considered a crime, such as theft or forceful entry.

Note that the above says nothing of the receiver needing a receipt in hand to prove an item was gifted. 🥱🥱

2. You really need to work on your comprehension skills, my boy! The man showed up(uninvited) to pick up what we are told are gifts, which he gave to the girl while they were dating. The text above in read clearly states that what he did is legally considered theft and forceful entry. 🥱🥱

3. A better solution would be for tiny-brained little men to quit
➜ Dating girls they cannot afford
➜ Probably work on growing themselves financially so they do not feel the need to resort to invading homes and engaging in possible theft when they get their hearts broken. 🥱🥱

duduade:
Girls ain't loyal. As a senior man in this game. Don't loose guard

Loyal in what sense? Because a girl decided to date you, she should not be expected to stop dating you when she finally realizes she gains nothing from remaining with you or finds that she can do better with someone else. Is that it? Why do so many of you think or believe you are entitled to loyalty from women when you have none of that to offer them in return?

Ezekiel2122:
➜from your screenshot, even as I'm not lawyer I've seen like three things the boy can use to defend himself in court of law... try to always study and think before talk.... with this your screenshot, the said boy has sin the case already. Advice girls not to take things if they know that they don't have anything to do with the boys rather.

I have no idea what this here means. How can people who literally barged into another person's home and stole items from it say they can defend themselves a crime the video serves as proof of? The sense is not sensing on this submission of yours,ol'boy!

Dancebreaker:
➜Is she a prostitute? Or what do you call favours for knacking? Bia, does a woman not enjoy knacking? Why make it look like sex is an ordeal like child labour? Strange mentality. Na the guy mumu to have bought those stuff in the first place. It caused that entitlement thing.

If your girlfriend treated sex the same way a pr0stitute treated sex, would you not have to pay her then for the time, emotional, mental, and physical energy she expends in the relationship with you?

For many men, all they bring to their relationships is just the money they bring into them. (Many other men are simply terrible in bed, so the sex may indeed be nothing to write home about.) So why do you consider it wrong for a woman to at least gain that much from the relationship? Or is she not supposed to gain any value whatsoever from it all?

Tailorcaesar:
➜Bro I didn't say I accepted ooooo. Yes we are still friends but when it comes to sex I have officially distanced myself from it

. Sure, sure! You came to shame her but did not know that you would be impacted by your telling of this tale, abi?

Inspectorsuga22:
➜I knew u was going to come across this silly comment. So the girl hasn't been knacking him too? Two people dey knack each other but it's expected that one person pay for the knacking with properties. What properties did the girl buy for the boy for knacking him? Was there an agreement for these properties to be a form of payment for knacking? When I see this comment it says a lot about the Olosho lifestyle that has become a norm for our women

. There is something inherently wrong with an individual who sees having a girlfriend as something that is no different from banging a pr0stitute. If you consider a lover to you— meant to invest time, emotional, mental, and physical labor into a relationship with you— to a pr0stitute who only invests physical labor for a limited time, which you are required to pay for, then you should probably avoid commenting on these sort of threads and focus your energy on just pr0stitutes and no other women out there.

ebubeson:
➜We have many ladies that are single and with one or more Exes. Many of these Exes are single and not married; but they may never marry all or many of these single ladies they left. if these ladies get Fiancés to marry, some of these Exes may come back to them; probably not to fight for love and get them back for the purpose of marriage but may sleep with some of these ladies few days, weeks or months to wedding day.

Even some married ladies that slept with their Exes in marriage, they may never have heard for once their Exes say they wished they married them.

More importantly, why do you carry am for head that women too fit sleep with their exes at any point in their life or situation? 🥱🥱

Tailorcaesar:
➜This post is directed to me. My current ex said she won't marry me cause she yet not ready, but still want to £uck me dispite me starting a new relationship and she now have a boyfriend

And you are here to tell us that if you finally end up having sex with her, it will not be that you cheated on your current partner with her, but that your ex came back to you, her ex, right? 🥱🥱

Na all these women who dey always lowball themselves in relationship I dey pity pass. 🥱🥱🥱

Luckystarsssz:
➜Women marry for different reasons. Some one you're hitting the pot of good good they'll never want to leave you For other marriage is for sustainable ( to secure the bag).I thank God I married a woman that loved me despite my many problems with women. At least my wife knows I'm a womanizer before we meet. I don try stop am small sha

And if that woman finally realizes how bad her decision to lowball herself in marriage really is, and decides to go hook up with an ex or a new man, e sure me say you go come here come tell us say "you did not see it coming,", right? 🥱🥱🥱

EDGEof2MORO:
➜have you no friends? the worst company a married woman can have is a single, unmarried female friend.
➜ I prefer she stays away from people like that.

That's because you are insecure and certain that those single, unmarried female friends would invariably reveal to her how little value you truly bring to her existence, right? I grew up around your kind: men do all that is possible to isolate their wives from friends — outside support of their own—and family, in some cases, who could get in the way of them maintaining control over their wives.

2. Of course, keep her as isolated and blind to the truth of your real worth to her, abi?

legionISproteus:
➜and that is why you will remain single forever

Where were you born with your dick attached to a vagina that you would suggest that being single forever is some sort of curse on your life?

Adeboyefa:
➜A Christian spinster is usually advised to patiently wait for a monogamous marriage before having children.
➜"Single motherhood is stressful. A child needs both parents". Later on in life, she will be told to consider adoption if she is feeling lonely, rather than have her own child out of wedlock. If single motherhood is not ideal for her own child, does someone else's child deserve it? Is it even in the child's own interests?

Look, when it comes to life, there is absolutely no evidence out there that Christians do life better than everyone else. So, why in the world would anyone, even a spinster, consider it sensible, intelligent even, to take advice on how to live his/her life from someone simply because he/she claim to be Christian?

Spinsters, like bachelors, who do not marry and do not want to have children, are under no obligations to have them. Matter of fact, women are allowed to live out their days single and childfree, if that is what they desire. The same applies to men who wish to live out their days as childfree bachelors.

2. Studies have shown, over and over, that children are better off raised by at least one emotionally mature parent figure, whether in a sole parenting situation or a two-parent situation, since the major benefit to be received is from being raised by at least one mentally and emotionally mature individual/guardian. What this means is that individuals raised in single-parent homes can and do grow up into capable adults, the same as individuals raised in two-parent homes, where at least one of the caregivers. The key is the availability of at least one emotionally and socially mature caregiver/guardian in both cases.

Of course, that invariably means that children raised in toxic/bad marriages — also two-parent homes —do not turn out any better than children raised by toxic/immature single-parent homes.

This logic here is the reason why I stand on the belief that religion is for those who are brain-damaged or at least struggle with serious unresolved mental illness.

jiggyman:
➜And who said they were gifts? If I bought a car and gave you to use while im away, does that equate to gift?

Did you read what it says on that image there? The law requires that the person asserting them— trying to take back the item — be responsible for providing proof that it was not a gift. So?

EDGEof2MORO:
➜I showed her this rubbish you wrote. She asked me "is she okay?"

Storyland! 🥱🥱🥱🥱

Tell the woman to join Nairaland and come tell us her side of the story! This is, after all, a faceless forum where she can hide her identity from all of us, including you if she so wanted to. So, what is there for you to be afraid of?

EDGEof2MORO:
➜i am married to a lovely woman with 2 beautiful kids

Tell that wife of yours to come on Nairaland and tell us her side of this story. 🥱🥱🥱