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Offpointng:
■ You didn't call him, you got no right to tell him to retire I wonder why y'all got issues with a man that isn't even the reason behind ur generational problems

The man called himself!

Offpointng:
■ Well, until 2021 i use to be a full time member in Deeper life and there was no time a call was made by any district or group pastor to contribute towards a bridge project or anything related to what was done there
■ Besides, our argument was if the church was giving to the community. You got ur answers already but just choose to want to argue to feel right. No man, next time don't contribute to topics outta ignorance

1. Interesting! Do you wish to claim that the news is false simply on grounds that you never knew of it? 😂😂😂😂 Even my mum who is to this day a deeper life member does not even pretend she knows all that is happening in the church.

2. Yes, and clearly, you mistake corporate events and donations, which pretty much every company out there engages in, mostly for marketing brand improvement purposes, with community programs. Catholic churches are well known for such efforts, even though it has been proven that the majority of the time it has been for dubious purposes.

Konquest:
■ Have you ever been a member of his RCCG church in those 40 years for you to have known all these specifics? Surely, there was never anytime he spoke with a gong-ho attitude or condescending manner like this current alleged comments.
■ Out of curiosity, I once listened to series of YouTubes and podcasts done by Ifedayo Olarinde (also known as Daddy Freeze) and another man about why tithes and offerings are an Old Testament thing and not a New Testament thing and these dude were very compelling based on their use of logical reasoning and comparative analysis.

1. I have family and friends who are members of that church actually. But again, the situation here is this. Adeboye has been, for over 40 years, against accountability given he never did see fit to implement these ideas before the request came in from one of the so-called billionaires. Was it an old man going senile for all those 40 years?

2. I don't need podcasts to teach me anything when it comes to Scripture. I base my belief in God on what is written. Your Adeboye and other gods of men have nothing to do with the God of Israel — YHWH — or even His Son, Jesus Christ. Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31 & John 10 vs 7 - 16.

PlasmaTV:
■ Your family members should come and carry you.

The ones wey you list there don carry you finish? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Konquest:
....■Second, though NOT an Xtian church person, I've known Adeboye from back in the day to be a well-read and articulate man who doesn't talk flippantly. So, the alleged comments alluded to him gloating about the financial setbacks or difficulties of some billionaires who are have now left his church is distasteful tbh.
■ I would like to see the YouTube video or audio recording of this Adeboye's published newspaper speech in order to be convinced that he is NOT being misquoted or his comments are NOT being embellished like is common these days in sections of the mainstream media and online platforms due to lack of due diligence or fact-checkings.

Adeboye has been, for over 40 years, against accountability (likely transparency as well) given he never did see fit to implement this before the request came in from any of the so-called billionaires. Was it an old man going senile for all those 40 years?

2. Given his gong-ho stance from about his beginnings where the issue of tithes and offering is concerned, I don't see what you hope to discover that is different from that which his actions have established over the last 40 years of his time in RCCG.

PlasmaTV:
■ You need deliverance and therapy.

Look at this psychiatric patient who is not even aware of the deepness of his delusion! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Goodman247:
Yahoo yahoo pastors too much for Nigeria

All pastors are Yahoo Yahoo! Scammers who hide their schemes behind the mentions of God and Jesus Christ.

Harddiskng:
■ Imagine how many years them monitor this guy. Oyinbo would wait for your crime to be perfected before they would nab you. No amount of turenchi you fit speak

Very patient monkies!

OriOko88:
■ Ori e daru. Adeboye has more integrity than ur effing father. Oponu

I highly doubt that since the man, Enoch Adejare Adeboye, is against accountability, a fact he conveniently hides behind his many mentions of "God" and "Jesus Christ".

PlasmaTV:
■ Did I tag you?? Please, get out of my mentions and get a job.

You log off nairaland and you will get your request granted.

PlasmaTV:
■ It's a demonic attack sponsored by Satan. All over social media, the church has been under intense heat. The gates of hell will never prevail.

See persecution complex abeg!

ruffhandu:
#
Boy, e do

Again,

Kobojunkie:
It is OK to worship your pastors. Stop hiding this behind the many mentions of "God" and "Jesus Christ" abeg!

dhope:
■ There's this campaign of bad calumny against the church of God. But the gate of hell will never prevail. Those who are accusing churches of not doing enough charity can't share their kobo with fellow suffering individuals around them

Which God? Hope you don't mean the same God who referred to these men as thieves who come to steal, to kill, and to destroy His flock - Ezekiel 34 vs 1- 21 & John 10 vs 7 - 16? Christianity is indeed a religion of serious mindfuckery! How can you be for a God whose teachings and commandments you blatantly defy by your every action?

Asiri1991:
....

Abeg get away! The other 10's of millions of other scammers that comprise the group of religious leaders on the scamming platform that is Christianity, blazing in other parts of Nigeria and the world, are what, Yorubas as well? Nonsense!

jahsharon:
Now is time for this man to retire before he causes irreparable damages to the body of Christ

Body of which Christ? Abegi!

ruffhandu:
■ Ok boy, whatever

It is OK to worship your pastors. Stop hiding this behind the many mentions of "God" and "Jesus Christ" abeg!

PlasmaTV:
■ Just watch as people jump on this and call all pastors false, however same people will turn a blind eye when pastors do CSR, give to the needy and do the work of the government.

Your church organizations are business establishments, and almost every company/business establishment out there that wishes to grow its customer base and brand these days does CSR work, gives to the needy, and even works with the government. That is like Business/Brand Marketing 101. Even Dangote, the US Government, Tesla, and other businesses out there do it.

So, stop throwing these business gimmicks in our faces and face the real issue abeg!

1Sharon:
All you lots that want to japa, learn. In the West you would be held accountable. Religious sentiments and emotional blackmail doesn't work on westerners, you would still be queried and face the law.

"Daddy in the Lord" " "Touch not my anoited" ends in Nigeria.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

ruffhandu:
■ You are not born again. My 'rambling' will never make any sense to you because you are not given to reason but here to insult others.

I get it!

I know your churchian born-again ideas involve essentially rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself to assert ideas that contradict Him. Even Jesus Christ was aware of it when He claimed that all those who adopt the doctrines and traditions of men, which He proclaimed were against His Truth and His Father, were not of Him but instead of the antichrist. So, please continue in the worship of your pastors, but try to at least learn to be honest with yourself in this.

ruffhandu:
■ You lack understanding boy. Jesus did not condemn tithe, neither did he stop his followers to stop giving offering.

Stop Rambling!

Tithing belonged to the Old Law of Moses which was God's Constitutional Law in the Nation of Isreal in the Land of Israel which Jesus Christ Himself lived under and obeyed since it was the Will of His Father, YHWH.

However, Jesus Christ came to call His Followers to a different Law and agreement, which is the Gospel and Law in the Kingdom of God, a different Nation with its own different Constitutional Law. Of course, He did not come to condemn the Old Law since it was equally a Perfect Law of God. Jesus Christ warned His followers to abide only in Him — not have one foot in the Old Law while serving Him — meaning anyone who does so does not belong to Jesus Christ at all, and has nothing to do with the God of Israel either since He urged every one of the Israelites to obey Jesus Christ.

You, however, choose to reject the Word of Jesus Christ, and God, all so you can cling to the lies fed to you by your gods of men who are in fact the true gods over your life and situation.

ruffhandu:
Lol, we are looking at the Bible and not man. No man is my role model, Jesus is. "...without leaving the others undone."

Stop lying!

You just now cast down what Jesus Christ said in order that you may instead hold to the special interpretation of one verse that was fed to you by the men who are your true role models, your pastors! Who's fooling who?

remsonik:
■ Rccg does alot of free giving to the people and the environment. All of you castigating this man don't just want to know. At the redemption camp in every service free feeding is available everyday. Also he shares alot of gifts to people in cash and in kind. The rccg takes care of the sick and every ailments freely. They also takes care of pregnant women and you can have a free delivery in the rccg. The Christian education department offers out free scholarships to everyone in education from primary to secondary, to tertiary and even postgraduate courses within and outside the country. Go to the rccg and ask questions on how much they get in offerings and tithes and they will give you their account details.
■ The church is transparent and not after your money. Ask them questions and also share your needs with them. Seek their help in your finances and you will find their hand on your life.

Dangote does a lot of free giving as well. Corporations and many smaller businesses do it too. It helps their brand.

2. Your Adeboye already claims accountability is a sin in his church, so wetin you come dey talk now!

Sharpsharp00123:
oga it’s a big lie
A judge in ondo state declared that culture as barbaric n gave the child to the father
Let me find d news for u
https://www.nairaland.com/7968127/akure-magistrate-judge-condemns-igbo#127908859

That's from a divorce case where the wife had remarried even before it all. Why do you feel the two can be compared?

sgtponzihater1:
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”
To Him be glory, majesty, power and authority, through all ages, now and forever more. He is the only wise God our saviour.

Interesting! Applying literal interpretation to the content presented in dream/vision format is never advised at all. For example, do you literally believe, against what is asserted in every other part of scripture, that God obtains blessings, honor, and glory from men and creatures speaking those words with their mouths?

ruffhandu:
■ You simply lack understanding if you are born again. But if you are not, then I totally understand your feeling.

I get it! This is speak for Jesus Christ is a liar and my pastor is my god, the unspoken truth among Christians, right?

FILEBE:
■ I am worried about nobody honestly. This life is too big to let someone's ish become mine.
Make everybody dey do whatever he likes. God be te judge . God of Israel, you say? Should God be for a particular tribe or people? Wouldn't it be wrong if we say the God of Kenya or the God of Africa.
■ Doesn't it sound cringy when you Limit God to a particular tribe? GOD should be God and should be for us all. Innit?

God of Israel has no right to say that He is God of a certain people and not another?

2. It absolutely doesn't at all given traditional groups in even Nigeria also have their own tribal gods to boast of. So why not demand they quit being for any particular group then?

Offpointng:
▶ Sometime ago Deeper life built a linking bridge at Gbagada and then took on Lightning some roads in Lagos, not only that a 600 capacity multilevel car park were also built in Lagos and was commissioned by the Lagos state commisional of works (Fast check me on this and expose the lie if I'm lying).
▶ You don't have to fast check me bfr knowing what SCOAN and Papa OPM thr his church is helping many many less privileged
▶ Do you also know the Redeem church spent billions opening Dialysis centres where you come do dialysis free of charge in bout 10 states in Nigeria??
▶ Do you also know RCCG also dole out scholarship to members and non members
▶ Deeper life also give out money to members having problems paying their school fees (I was a beneficiary in secondary school when things were still bad at home) Do you know it's still on going till now??
▶ Do you know the 23km Atan-Lusada-Agbara highway was rehabilitated by Winners church and the community still enjoy the smoothness of the road till today? aside the 15MW plant constructed that benefits the Ota communities to
▶ All these claims so far you can fast check me on them and point out any lies if I've told any. Reason why I asked, Do you usually type with this so much ignorance on a normal day

First thing first, none of the businesses you mentioned are small businesses so I don't understand why you think government should step in to fund any of the projects that they embark on in any one of their select communities particularly since their take home alone exceeds the amount spent in any of those cases. Second, the Deeper Life project was instead said to have been funded by members and not Deeper Life itself.

The multiple projects inaugurated by Lagos State Governor, Akinwunmi Ambode, included a link bridge on Oduwaiye Street, Gbagada, traffic lights on a number of streets and a 600 capacity multilevel car park, all built from the contributions of members of the church across the country.

While commending the Church for mobilising millions of its members across the world towards making life more meaningful for members of the community in which the headquarters Church is situated, Ambode praised the General Superintendent, Pastor William F. Kumuyi and members of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry for their contributions towards community development and improvement of the quality of life of the people of the state.

Third, for a community program, the particular church in a particular community spearheads a project to benefit the lay folk in that community that it then requests a grant from the government to help with. These cases you have here are of massive companies— many of them international corporations with millions of dollars in yearly revenue — doing what other corporations sometimes do and mostly for the benefit of the brand.

Peopleofthebook:
■ You may want to reconsider your position once you've seen this expository...His name is Yahuah; and his Son's name is Yahushua.

Nonsense! Like I have ever depended on any such in the past for my knowledge of who the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is, let alone His Son, Jesus Christ.

dlawsamesq007:
So, one of my distance cousin, a Yoruba guy impregnated an Igbo lady and she gave birth to a boy. He doesn't want to marry the lady bit want his son but the lady's family are laying claim on the child that the child doesn't belong to him since he doesn't want to marry their daughter.
I understand that it is their culture but the constitution agreed that the child belong to the biological father, he is planning to take them to Court. I want to have ideas of what can be the outcome at the court.

The son equally belongs to the woman. So what exactly is your friend planning to use the courts to accomplish here? Take the boy away from his mother? On what grounds? Better to work towards shared custody!

Offpointng:
■ How sure are you the Church does not support the communities?? Do you always talk like this with so much ignorance on a normal day??

Show me just a handful of churches that support at least one community in anywhere Nigeria. And please, don't mention the catholic church because the charade has been unmasked a long time ago when it comes to how they have brainwashed communities into surrendering land and property to them instead.

amazingspiderma:
Most of the people condemning the man of God don't see anything wrong in handing over this nation to corrupt leadership. Righteous citizens.

This your god of men is equally part of the scheme that hands the nation to the hands of corrupt leaders naw! No be RCCG open office of political matters not too long ago after well over a decade of sending corrupt leaders into office through their networks. Abegi!

FILEBE:
■ Lol. Trust you. However, I will like to know where you swing. Are you an atheist? Christian ?

Don't worry about me! Worry about the scammers who major in hiding their scams behind the mentions of the name of God of Israel —YHWH— and His Son, Jesus Christ.