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Xosh:
I m speechless,and at the end of the day, Don't be surprised karma will deal with the man.
Maybe him losing 2 of his kids same way.

Stop lying to yourself abeg!

Many wicked live much longer and more productive lives than their victims do. That is a fact.

Darevofpeace:
Many years ago, my friend dated a certain guy. They worked in the same office. They tried so hard to hide their relationship from colleagues at work. But at some point he suffered a major housing issue and had to move in with her. She was the oldest and had 3 younger siblings living with her.
They accepted him in. They did his laundry. They called him Sir. They served his food. They attended to him. They respected him. The relationship kept going on.....

No woman,no matter how desperate to find love, should do this to herself.

achorladey:
■ I want to believe you know this has to do with varying degrees of being open-minded. If they indeed notoriously lack being open minded towards Scripture, you won't be engaging Christians on this platform and this particular section of this platform.
Even in that compartmentalized state, they are still open minded in varying degrees.

This is still on the topic of Scripture, right? Jesus Christ considered people to be either blind(close-minded) to the Truth of God as presented in Scripture or not blind at all. Are one are for exactly what Jesus Christ said or one rejects what Jesus Christ said...no middle ground. Christians are notoriously blind to Scripture particularly the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

achorladey:
■ People who studied the Bible with open mind are still Christians. That your statement no be one shot size fit all

Christians notoriously lack what you call an openmind towards Scripture. Rather, what those you describe tend to develop is a compartmentalized interpretation/approach to dissecting the content of Scripture different from regular reasoning.

maureensylvia:
■ I don't think there's a specific verse that explicitly says not to apply human language understanding to Scripture. However, there are verses that indicate that God's ways are not our ways, and His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9).
■ This implies that we can't always understand God's ways or interpret Scripture using only human reasoning.
■ There are many verses that talk about faith, trust, hope, and mystery. For example, Hebrews 11:1 says that faith is the assurance of things hoped for and the conviction of things not

1. The statement that God's way is not our way and God's thoughts are not our thoughts could simply mean we, as humans are to submit to His Will in all-wise much like Jesus Christ is written to have done --- Obey God's teaching and commandments as opposed to our own ideas. It in no way implies that we are to abandon our ability to logicaly process or reason all that is around them, including God's Law. Sure, you can't always grasp it at first try, or several, --- after all understanding comes from the Father in His time to those who seek it. So where exactly is it stated that you throw out/abandon your ability to reason or logically process God's Law?

2. I am particularly interested in learning where you derived this idea that humans are to abandon their ability to reason and judge logically that which is stated in Scripture, an idea you not only seem to hold but approve as right approach as well.

3. I am more interested in that stated by the God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ, the very ones proclaimed authors of the faiths of those who follow them. The opinions of men are meant to be validated against that spoken directly by God. So please, tell us where exactly God Himself revealed to you these ideas you have of faith, trust, hope and mystery.

maureensylvia:
■ It's true that from a purely logical perspective, there can only be one objective truth. However, I don't think that logic is the only way to understand scripture.Scripture is meant to be read and interpreted through the lens of faith, which is not always logical.
■ Faith is about trust, hope, and mystery, not about proof and certainty. Do you see how faith might lead to different interpretations of scripture?
■Meanwhile Been awhile kobo!

1. Interesting claim! Mind showing us exactly were in Scripture the God of Israel, or even Jesus Christ His Son, told you you are not to apply basic human language understanding as far as Scripture is concerned?

2. Where abouts in Scripture did the God of Israel or even His Son, Jesus Christ, give you these regarding faith, trust, hope and mystery which you hold to?

maureensylvia:
■ It's true that the Deeper Life Church, and other similar churches, interpret the Bible as prohibiting the wearing of jewelry.
However, there are many other churches and denominations that don't share that interpretation. This is a great example of how different Christians can have different understandings of the Bible.
It's not necessarily that one group is "right" and the other is "wrong," but rather that they are approaching scripture from different perspectives and experiences.
It's important to remember that not all Christians will interpret the Bible in the same way.

Do you know that logically, there is only one meaning to a Truth--- all other meanings are lies. That is why it is said that an opinion or perspective is not a fact(Truth) but a take that when put against the Truth is likely a lie.

LordIsaac:
■ Paul was told what would happen if he went on a journey, he went anyway. There’s more to ministry that you don’t know…God will help you to understand mysteries!

Stop using that which you don't rightly understand, because you have no desire to, as excuse for the lies of these men who pretend to be of a God they know nothing of. These men have made a career of lying to you lot, year after year, yet you keep taking it on yourselves to create excuses for them each and every time, much like broken souls desperate for attachment. Don't you see that they prey on your inner issues -- vulnerabilities?

LordIsaac:
■ Paul was told what would happen if he went on a journey, he went anyway. There’s more to ministry that you don’t know…God will help you to understand mysteries!

Stop deceiving yourself with these delusions. Your mogs are not prophets of the God of Israel. God of Israel disclosed details of events to them via dreams and visions. Your mog there cannot even see his own toes let alone what is to come.

As for your statement concerning Paul, there is a good reason why Paul did not take the advice of the prophets of his time, and the reason is revealed to those who truly know the God of Israel in that same Scripture you quote from. Open that book and read it for your own self so you can learn the Truth of God as opposed to the lies you have been fed by these liars who call themselves mogs.

Scholar8200:
■ Isaiah 53:6, Zechariah 13:7, Psalm 22, etc
Psalm 16:8-10, Isaiah 26: 19, Hosea 6:2 etc
these was not affixed with the clause,'according to the Scriptures' because they were not from thence.

● Isaiah 26 vs 19 refers instead to the time of the resurrection when all of Israel, who are in their graves, will be raised by Him.
● Psalm 16 vs 1 - 10 is David's plea and not Jesus Christ who instead said in John 10 vs 7 - 18 that He, of His own will, laid down His Life, and He picked it back up again.

iamgenius:
Even if it's not being practised in ur church doesn't mean ur pastors are right. Do U Follow Jesus Or Pastors?

All Churchians follow their pastor and mogs. To them Jesus Christ is just a name they throw around as a cover.

NNTR:
■ I sympathise with you over you faux pas. It was cringeworthy reading the clumsy, stupid and careless mistake of twisting and turn 'He was always against the truth' into 'the devil ALWAYS lies' The operative word used was 'against', (i.e. against the truth). Now please tell, explain to me, how you equated 'against the truth' to be 'ALWAYS lies'. The former is a preposition (i.e. against) and the former an adverb (i.e. ALWAYS)

LOL....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

So you wish to minimize the always part so you focus instead on the use of the word against, in a lame attempt to buy yourself out of the hole abi? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That which is against the truth is a lie. To say that someone is always against the truth means that someone always produces a lie — never a truth. Jesus Christ literally declared that not even an ounce of truth can be obtained from the one who is the devil, but you cast Him, Jesus Christ, as a liar and even attempted to justify your logic by drawing attention away from His intended message, Why? Because your ego is what is more important to you in this.

You think yourself smart by a half, but you are not. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

live4dgospel:
■ The Baptism of Jesus Christ: Why Was Jesus baptized?
John the Baptist was a human being like us. He was also marked with sins and weaknesses. However, he also believed in the Saviour Jesus Christ who would come, be baptized by him and crucified and rise again to solve away all his sins and the sins of the whole world.
■ On the other hand, Jesus Christ is God Himself who came wearing our human flesh.
Because John the Baptist realized that he was lowly man before Jesus Christ. He could not understand why a lowly man like him could lay his hands on God's head to baptize Him. As a man he was wondering why he himself must do this, and whether or not there's no other way for Jesus Christ to take away the sins of the world. But could there be any other way for the sins of the world to passed onto Jesus Christ? No, because the Old Testament's sacrificial system of laying on of hand is a shadow of Jesus Christ baptism.

1. What the frell?

John, the Baptist, a righteous man of God who started living a holy life from his youth as a result of being consecrated to the Nazarite vow from his birth was a lowly sinful man?

2. Sin was transferred from John to Jesus Christ?

Churchianism is serious disease.

NNTR:
Yes, of course, there certain claims that Satan made that are divinely true, even Jesus, God Incarnate, didnt dispute some of Satan's claims, but simply and calmly just overpowered and neutralised the claims with counter claim assertions that was superior

Interesting! Now, if according to you, the lies told by Satan and recorded in your bible are in fact God's Truth then it means Jesus Christ lied when He instead said the following.

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were really your Father, you would love me. I came from God, and now I am here. I did not come by my own authority. God sent me.
43 You don’t understand the things I say, because you cannot accept my teaching.
44 Your father is the devil. You belong to him. You want to do what he wants. He was a murderer from the beginning. He was always against the truth. There is no truth in him. He is like the lies he tells. Yes, the devil is a liar. He is the father of lies.

Following your logic, this means that when Jesus famously declared that the devil ALWAYS lies, Jesus Christ in fact told a lie, right?

See Agbero's reasoning! Just as expected of a typical churchian!

Again, even the words of Satan — all of them lies— written in the book were divinely inspired as well. So does that make Satan's divinely inspired claims divinely true as well?

ebubeson:
■ Can a Child of God who is born again still be under a curse?
■ A born again Christian who was cursed before may still be under a curse if he or she has not applied the blood of Jesus Christ in breaking such a curse. Again, such person may still be under a curse if he or she has not restituted, apologized or confessed to the offended. Example: if a born-again Christian was formerly a thief in the neighbourhood, and had stolen from people to the point that they cried bitterly and issued curses on him or her, such curses may not break until the born again Christian does restitution to those he stole from before.

1. For a person born-again, there are two directions in which their life can go forward. The blessings pronounced by Jesus Christ belong to those who continue in submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. The curses pronounced by the same Jesus Christ in His Gospel are heaped on those of them who refuse to continue in submission and obedience to the teachings.

2. Balderdash! Churchians and their fake born-again cultures. You folks need to make your minds up as to whether it is traditional gods you believe in or the God of Israel and His Son, Jesus Christ instead. How can any human being place a curse or even a blessing on one that belongs to the God of Israel without the God of Israel's say so?

Jokerman:
■ You are wrong here bro! St Paul wrote was divinely instructed him by God. Don't get carried away by all these end time prophets... Many people will be blown away at these last days by doctrine of men and their bellies

Even the words of Satan — all of them lies— written in the book were divinely instructed as well. So does that make Satan's claims divinely true as well?

domesifa:
With the rising cost of living in the country, have you increased, decreased or still maintain the amount of what you offer in Church?

You still have yet to realize the scam that is your churches? Ha !

Lawag3:
■ Should I quote the Bible and bring verses that say women should be submissive to their husbands 😁 .You know it's plenty.

I don't since I only know the Word of God. All else are lies and opinions which matter nothing since they have no link to the Truth.

Like that we are back where we started from https://www.nairaland.com/8017144/blasphemy-johnson-suleman-responded-he/1#128860777

Notice how you never did provide an honest answer to the question i asked regarding the gobbledygook you posted earlier?

Lawag3:
■ You must obey God's instructions The Bible contains God's instructions to man
Obey God's instructions.
Do you have anything against what's above.
You're confused you're saying my belief are not scriptural where are the scriptures written?
You don't believe yet you quote it.

As expected of all religious adherents, you have taken to writing your own separate scripture all while abandoning that which is in fact written in the same book which you claim you believe in. The thousands-of-years-old wisdom of God contained in the book has been the mandate that one obey, not just any word but the Word of God. But here not only have you stripped Jesus Christ of His title as Word of God, but you have also taken to rewriting God's mandate to men from the beginning, all for what? So your mogs and pastors can continue to rule over your life by way of religion?

Lawag3:
■ It's a human tradition even before Christianity it's a societal norm that trace it's root back to God.And show me where I said submission is a Christian tradition.
■ Because Paul spoke about it you said it was wrong. Forgetting God himself ordained it. Every major religion supports it like they don't even defer on that topic. Almost every cultures across time agree on it. Because it's not a Christian tradition but a societal norm that Christianity agrees with.

So, what you are trying to say after all is that your Christian tradition in fact has no Scriptural root to it whatsoever given that the trace back to Scripture I a curse from God meant as punishment against the woman? Because the particular curse in question appears to favor the egos of men --- in reality it is reason why even Christian marriage are in shambles --- Christianity does not pray against the particular curse but claims it as a tradition, right?

2. Your only evidence for this ordination by God you claim of is via God's curse on man— a punishment from God against man—, right? You said the curse is meant to be a Christian tradition, so why pray against tradition, or at least parts of it? How many of you, in the same manner, that you pray against sickness and suffering, equally pray against the submission of your wives?

Peacefulplace:
IWe are getting married this month and now I am so worried upset with him. I am 31 and he is 30. I am a Australian woman and he is a Igbo man. I am moving across the world to be with him. I have visited him many times but I decided to stick by him and marry him.
I am very upset with him and hurting from within. I am trying to deal with this pain but it is a lot. Should I continue to stay by my man? Or should I leave? So far he has not cheated for quite awhile and I am hoping he has learnt his lesson. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ewvCNguug?si=Yuwd7t6MiNlKoNDf

Milaniquest:
I see this all the time on TikTok and I wonder why mirror always?

Maybe those who typically engage in such rituals are narcissists at heart and love taking a peek in the mirror every so often.

LordIsaac:
■ Why didn’t he also foresee the death of the poor men and women in the North-East? I marvel at the kinds of questions we ask at times!

These kind of questions are to be expected. The man claims to have been called as a prophet of the God of Israel. One of the benefits such men enjoyed was foreknowledge on a level that most men couldn't even dream of.

SojWORLDWIDE:
■ THERE was confusion when Indian Policeman kicked Muslim Faithfuls observing their Jumat Service on major Highway in India. One of the Policemen was seen kicking two of the worshippers and slapping him from the back.
Who is to be blamed?

OK this is bullsheet! If those men are doing there right on the road, they should be thrown in jail and fined for obstructing other users of the road.

Lawag3:
■ You're Nigerian right before Christianity in many cultures who is the head of the family? In many religions who is the head of the family. Almost all cultures of the world follow this Christian tradition as you call it. It is universal not just Christian tradition.
■ Do you know why because like suffering sickness and childbirth pain God ordained it. 😂😂

So, what you are trying to say after all is that your Christian tradition in fact has no Scriptural root to it whatsoever?

2. Your only evidence for this ordination by God you speak of is via God's curse on man— a punishment from God against man—, right? You said the curse is meant to be a Christian tradition, so why pray against tradition, or at least parts of it? How many of you, in the same manner, that you pray against sickness and suffering, equally pray against the submission of your wives?

Yes, suffering and sickness are part of human life, yet you all pray against it. The average Christian spends countless hours screaming to heaven for God to save them from suffering and sickness but I have never seen a Christian devoting even a smidge of his effort against the submission of women to their husbands which is equally a curse, why?

God meant submission, like suffering and sickness, for a curse. But, you claimed that your religion turned it into a tradition. However, the same religion continually rejects the other curses from the same God every chance it gets. How come?

Lawag3:
■ Doesn't change the fact that God's words and instructions are contained in the Bible.
Inspired by God. And so what if Satan's words are in the Bible? Are we to obey them? The only instances of the devil speaking was when he spoke to Eve and tempted Jesus with some other ones like in job. His instructions are not in the Bible. The words and instructions of God are recorded in the Bible.

Claim A: You must obey God's Word
Claim B: The Bible is God's Word
Conclusion: Obey your Bible which is God's Word... 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Anyways, what seems obvious at this point is that your belief is not Scriptural but man-made, which explains the many attempts by you above to suggest that not all contained in the book that you call God's Word should be obeyed.

Religion is indeed steeped in logical fallacies.

Ken4Christ:
■ Go and burn that Bible that translated the phrase, 'as deep as grave'. Graves have shallow depth and so it's very stupid for anyone to use it as a reference for depth. Hell is deeper than the ocean bed. Hence, it's been used as a reference for depth; 'as deep as hell'. Even an alcoholic man knows that the phrase'as deep as grave' is a grammatical suicide.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He seriously can't detach the delusions swirling around in his head from what is in fact written in the book.

Lawag3:
■ Jesus Christ Himself is also called the Word of God. This concept is based on the belief that Jesus embodies God's message to humanity. According to the Gospel of John, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). This passage suggests that Jesus is not only a messenger of God's word but that He is the very essence of that word. The Bible is the written word of God . It is here for guidance, correction. God's words are recorded in the Bible, the laws he spoke through prophet and laws are recorded in the Bible. Even Jesus used to scriptures when he taught. Let me put it this way the Bible contains the word of God. Now argue. Doesn't it? You've proven not to be of God.

Again, it is written in Scripture that Jesus Christ is the Word out of God's own Mouth — the Word of God. What is missing from Scripture is this claim that rather than Jesus Christ being the Word of God, your bible is instead the real deal. Jesus Christ may have quoted from Scripture to His disciples but there are so many things equally written in that same book that Jesus Christ did not quote. He did not quote Satan for example and Satan's words — all of them lies— whose words are equally written in that same book.

So, when you strip Jesus Christ of the title that belongs to Him and hand it instead to a book that contains lies in addition to the Truth of God among other things — the opinions of men which could also be lies—, all so that your religion can continue to boost that which is clearly not scriptural, what does that say of you and your many claims?

Lawag3:
■ So because Christians pray to God suffering has disappeared. Is suffering and sickness not part of life? Do daily bread come easily.
■ Go into the streets and ask anybody if suffering and sickness are part of human life.
■ We pray because of Hope and Faith not because we pretend suffering and sickness are not part of life we've all wether Christian Muslim or traditionalist or atheist accepted it as part of human life and experience.

You said the curse is meant to be a Christian tradition, so why pray against what you assert to be your tradition? How many of you, in the same manner, that you pray against sickness and suffering, equally pray against the submission of your wives?

2. Try to stay on track without deviating abeg! This is concerning your claim that God's judgment against mankind, a curse placed on mankind by God, is a Christian tradition. Yes, suffering and sickness are part of human life, yet you all pray against it. The average Christian spends countless hours screaming to heaven for God to save them from suffering and sickness but I have never seen a Christian devoting even a smidge of his effort against the submission of women to their husbands which is equally a curse, why?

3. Please don't deviate. This isn't a question about prayer at all, but about your selective treatment of God's curses one of which you claim is a tradition in your religion. God meant submission, like suffering and sickness, for a curse. But, you claimed that your religion turned it into a tradition. However, the same religion continually rejects the other curses from the same God every chance it gets. How come?