₦airaland Forum

AntiChristian:
■ Your own God of Israel is a partial and not fair before!

How did you arrive at this conclusion of yours?

OLAADEGBU:
■ When you get born again and believe the gospel truth maybe your eyes will be open to discern the truth that Bible doctrines which are the doctrines of Christ remain constant and cannot be misconstrued with the way local churches are organised.

This one thinks himself smart by 1/2.

thinkmoney:
■ I didn’t come that hard either. But u are not far from the truth

He is not a scammer like the rest but he is a scammer like the rest?

Na Kumuyi dey change him doctrines every so often to show his own god is not that different from the god of Oyedepo or the god of Adeboye or the god of Suleiman all of who also change their minds from time to time.

https://www.nairaland.com/5864639/pastor-kumuyi-make-more-clarification#89663942

stevestifler:
■ A woman wanted to travel & to see her sibling who invited her because they'd not seen in more than a year & her husband says no. She involves her parents & pastor & even her best friend, they all have different opinions. Some said go, some said stay.
As a married woman, whose words should be taken in highest regards?
1. Her siblings that she's spent all her life with
2. Her parents that gave birth to her
3. Her pastor that sees visions & guides her spiritually
4. Her husband
5. Her best friends that she's known from childhood
Let's have matured responses from experienced and responsible nairalanders.

She is thinking she needs to take permission from any of these people because?

123yes:
Kumuyi is one of the constant pastors we have in Nigeria. Some of our pastors always quote the Bible out of content with the gullible members accepting that as truth

By Constant you mean constantly changing his doctrines as the seasons move, right? How is that any different from the other scammers in sheep's clothing out there?

izzou:
Relocating from one place to another is no small task.

For you, maybe, for others maybe not!

izzou:
Then 4 months later, your Lanlord gets a better offer and gives you quit notice. It's like tenants do not know the security that comes with a yearly rent plan.
■Maybe it can work abroad. But for here, na tenants go lose pass

Well, the renter can equally do the same.

There is not just one format for all things in this abroad you speak of. There are multiple contracts available for people to choose from.

LOL.... The businessman is giving discounts to his gullible followers after scamming them for many years.

thinkmoney:
■ Where in all that point I highlighted did I mention that God approve of him? I mention piety, consistency of style, knowledge etc, but where or how do this things add up to mean God approves of him?

Alright, my mistake then. I take it your view then is that Kumuyi is just another scammer in sheep's clothing, right?

AntiChristian:
■ So you mean the people of Moses, Noah, Abraham, etc won't get eternal life?

Eternal life was only made available to the people of Old Law of Moses after they had first attained righteousness not before — Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, and even then it was not guaranteed — Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 31 and Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20. The promise of Eternal Life in this life before one even becomes holy and Righteous is obtained only via Jesus Christ.

Brendaniel:
■ That's why Jesus came to grant all human beings eternal life

Jesus Christ never said He came to do that.

ProudNigerian01:
■ Rom.6.11 - Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. I reckon myself to be dead to sin everyday but alive to God every day in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Stop lying! To be dead to sin means to be Holy! Are you a Holy being, Yes, or no?

FxMasterz:
■ Write it out the way I did mine, and let everyone read it here. Go for deliverance asap.

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So, you won't read it for yourself and somehow that invalidates what Jesus Christ said in the passage of how to receive freedom from slavery to sin? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ken4Christ:
■ The Law of Moses has been abolished because it was not profitable for the Jews. Rather, it brought a curse on them.
■ Jesus brought in grace, laid the foundation for the New Testament church. The Apostles built on the foundation through their letters. Why is it difficult for you to understand this simple truth?

An eternal Law abolished? WOW.... you are just a river manufacturing contradictions for free, aren't you?

2. The same Jesus Christ who swore that not a jot of the Law will disappear even if Heaven and Earth do, but here you want us to believe Jesus Christ lied, and it is the same lying Jesus Christ that your savior Paul redeemed with his new claims? Na wa ooo!

FxMasterz:
■ You're not even bold to quote out the scripture you referred to because you knew Jesus wasn't talking about the nonesense you were capping. Demons were speaking through you to deceive those who don't read their Bibles. Go for deliverance asap. You need Jesus in your life.

So, John 8 vs 31 - 44 is not Scripture for you?
No be the same Jesus Christ talk wetin dey there?

ebubeson:
Please what is your take on monthly rent system? Is it advisable for Nigeria

Try it and if you don't like it after a couple of months then you switch. Simple as that!

FxMasterz:
■You need Jesus in your life. You're demon possessed. Go for deliverance.

Anytime dem expose una ignorance, na then gon-gon una go proceed to show una true yansh, the empty shells you always were and nothing more.

Starboytwo:
No born pass 2 abeg. Unless you want shege Promax. Your parents born plenty children and the money you suppose use dey take care of your wife na him you dey send to your siblings. Your wife must complain. No TV, no money, no GP tank, and you say make she nor complain. Remember sir, no born plenty children unless na Promax shege you seek. May God help you. No condition is permanent.

2 Ke? He can't even afford curtain and you dey ask am to born? How can you be so heartless?

See the question for Pete's sake!

Paul was not chosen by Jesus Christ. Rather, Paul, like every other young man and woman in the land of Zion during the last days of God's Judgement against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) experienced what the prophet Joel said would happen to ALL the sons and daughters of Israel living in the Land at the time. Rather, the God of Israel, YHWH, is the one who sent the vision to all in the Land at the time. Visions and dreams were promised by God of Israel — YHWH— in His Old Law of Moses to those who would be Prophets to Him - Numbers 12 vs 1 - 6. And as He said in Scripture, before He would put a seal on prophets and visions - Daniel 9 vs 24 - He would communicate to all in the land as He declared through Joel.

28 “After this, I will pour out my Spirit on all kinds of people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will have dreams, and your young men will see visions.
29 In those days I will pour out my Spirit even on servants, both men and women.
30 I will work wonders in the sky and on the earth. There will be blood, fire, and thick smoke.
31 The sun will be changed into darkness, and the moon will be as red as blood. Then the great and fearful day of the Lord will come!
32 And everyone who trusts in the Lord[e] will be saved. There will be survivors on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, just as the Lord said. Yes, those left alive will be the ones the Lord has called. - Joel 2 vs 28 - 31

He was not the only man who saw Jesus Christ coming in His Kingdom as Jesus Christ revealed that all would see it. Paul was not the only man who was sent out into the world — The Lost sheep of Israel— among the Gentiles — the Non-Jewish tribes of the people of Israel.

** Paul is said to have died in 69 AD , in Rome, before Jerusalem was destroyed!

FxMasterz:
In Mathew 26:28, Jesus said: "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." I already told you that you're demon possessed. You need deliverance.

So, "my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sin" implies that the blood automagically absolves you of your sins?
Nevermind that the very same Jesus Christ equally explained in His same Gospel that only those among the born-agains who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings will be set free from sin(not even those among them who even ask for it) - John 8 vs 31 - 44 - you would rather cling to a hopeless delusion that His blood magically absolves you of your sins simply by your asking it. Why are you folks this delusional?

Why do you folks allow yourselves to become this dense for Pete's sake? Who did this thing to una?

nosa2ekundayo:
I doubt you know him!
This is a real man of God full of integrity and wisdom... He is not like others who has prepared the transfer of the church leadership/ownership to their son while those who suffered with the building process sit and watch like hungry dogs...
Wf kumuyi has 2 sons who are just ordinary church members. Highest they were allowed to was being in the choir group..
Dig deep about this man before talking about him.

A real man of god whose god changes his words just as much as the god's of the other scamming mogs and pastors do? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

pastorkc4life:
Where did you get the information that prophet Jeremiah wrote the book of kings and Ezra the books of Chronicles

Wow...I actually missed that

GenderMix:
I always say it that the moment i try to do business with anyone and the person mentions "I am a pastor or Christian" to prove his/her capacity, I see that as a red flag and discontinue the business relationship.

Serious red flag!

AkporsMechanical:
∆ My salary as a private school teacher is barely enough to feed us talk more of saving to buy a Geepee tank especially in this economic crisis. In the midst of all these, my wife's phone went bad and needed a new one Just this afternoon, my wife started raining insults on me that I am not behaving like a man at all, that I should have settled down fully before thinking of marriage, that I want to make her go hungry. This was because I told her I would cut off some part of my salary to be saving so I can buy curtain for our room, television and save for Geepee tank. She even went ahead to say I am poor and wretched just because I can't afford her a new phone for now.
Since afternoon, I have refused to eat. My problem here is that my parents love my wife and my parents are far from where I reside. And I don't want to report my wife to my parents so it won't bring disrespect later to her in the future. Secondly, as the first born of my parent,I don't know how my parents will take it if I tell them I don't want to marry her again so they don't have b.p. I am really really confused. The little extra money I get from extra tutorial is what I do send to my two siblings in school even though is very little compare to their needs but at least it is something.
I feel like running away but to where? I truly love my wife but she is regretting marrying me. Please what can I do?

Upon say una no dey pay any rent, to feed dey hard una for where una dey. Why in the world did you get married in that condition to begin with? The wife no dey work too, is that the case? And please do not tell us that you stuffed kids inside that one toom for Pete's sake.

Appletek:
∆ This bloated thing with thin legs. Na small time remain, them go still dey carry you about from prayer house to shrine back to prayer house.

Kumuyi is a scammer who is ever using God's name to decieve. No need insulting folks for calling him out for the scammer that he is.

Ken4Christ:
■ Please, visit a psychiatrist.

That advice suits you better since you here claim you worship a God whose teachings and commandments you pay absolutely no heed to. Imagine you asking me where the contradictions are when you have been dishing them one after the other ever since this conversation began. Every assertion you made here regarding the person of Paul violates both the Old Law which according to you still existed in place since Jesus Christ never finished His mission, according to you, while at the same time violating that spoken by Jesus Christ Himself. Logical Fallacies upon logical fallacies ! You don't even seem to care much for God as central to your believe is Paul the Messiah to Jesus Christ. Yet you think I am the one who needs to see a shrink? Sheesh!

AntiChristian:
■ It does exist! God is one! He has no other peer no other partner no son! No wife! No master! God no dey share his glory with anybody! He is just one! I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another... Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. Isaiah 45:5 Bye!!!

Interesting

5 The Lord, the true God, said these things. (He created the sky and spread it out over the earth. He formed the earth and everything it produced. He breathes life into all the people on earth. He gives a spirit to everyone who walks on the earth.)
6 “I, the Lord, was right to call you. I will hold your hand and protect you. You will be the sign of my agreement with the people. You will be a light for the other nations.
7 You will make the blind able to see. You will free those who are held as captives. You will lead those who live in darkness out of their prison.
8 “I am Yahweh. That is my name. I will not give my glory to another. I will not let statues take the praise that should be mine.
9 In the past, I told you what would happen, and it happened! Now I am telling you something new, and I am telling you now before it happens.” - Isaiah 42 vs 5 - 9

There is indeed only one God of Israel. All other gods the people of Israel attempted to create for themselves in the land of Canaan were frauds. Jesus Christ is not Yahweh, the God of Israel. Nor did Jesus Christ say He came to take the place of Yahweh, the God of Israel. No, Jesus Christ is God in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not even of this world.

Ken4Christ:
■Which ideas? How many times did he do it? Are the ideas against the word of God or violates the moral requirements of the scriptures?
■Don't your parents give you godly counsels? Please point the ideas out and let's see if they contradict the scriptures?

1. It is against the declaration of God to Add, Remove, or even change any of His commandments and teachings — God's Law. You set Paul up as someone who did all that and more, and here you ask me how any of that is against God?

2. What moral law? God never gave men moral laws.

3. And no, my parents don't give me "godly" counsel because it is impossible for parents to do any such, particularly since Jesus Christ.

AntiChristian:
■ Na lie! Jesus is a messenger like Moses and others!

Wait a second... are you attempting to exclude Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 from the Gospels or what? Jesus Christ is like Moses does not mean Jesus Christ cannot be more than just like Moses, right? In the very same Gospels, you read that Jesus Christ is the Good Shepherd, the Son of God, the I Am(Eternal being), the chosen one of God, God's Agreement, the King of the Jews, the King in the Kingdom of God, the Judge over all those who are of the Kingdom of God, the Truth of God, the Eternal Life.... etc. So, are you trying to pick and choose here or what?

AntiChristian:
■ God mandated many People to obey many Prophets in the Bible!
■ The people of Noah obey Noah! The people of Moses! So obedience to them doesn't make them share in the worship of God! Why only Jesus?

Not true at all! God of Israel mandated the people of Israel to obey His Word through His Prophets. However, God of Israel warned that to put their trust in a man was not of Him - Jeremiah 17 vs 5.

2. God of Israel commanded His people of Israel to not only obey but Trust in His only begotten Son.

AntiChristian:
■ Jesus did die for three days according to your Bible! God doesn't die at all! God does not need to lay down anything to pick it up! He is powerful enough to save his creation without shedding of blood!
■ I am not among the lost goats of Israel! I am a Nigerian and I worship Allah the Lord of all that exists! I don't know or recognise the God of Israel!

1. His Human flesh died, yes, but Jesus Christ the Eternal Life of God and Truth and Way of God did not die, why, because God of Israel, as you clearly stated did not die. As I pointed out, Jesus Christ explained that even though in the flesh it appeared that He did die, what instead happened was that He laid down His life(Not God's Life) and He picked it back up again afterward - John 10 vs 7 - 18.

2. Good for you that you are a Nigerian and so this ought to not bother you since there are lots of Nigerians gods to tend to you and your needs.