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Lovelyperson:
And you need to understand that God is Man and Man is God. We are all ONE.

God is 8 billion players in the game and so His so-called laws are meaningless to the bulk of them for good reason then.
And 8 billion egos are all God and so God is rendered of no meaning by that.
Very interesting belief you have there.

Lovelyperson:
That is why Solomon said all is Vanity... You decide how the games goes. U alone decide to win or lose. You and only you decide how the game will be played before you start the game. Many people that understood this game more than us have learnt how to tweak the game by going over board. And many of them knows that all is Vanity, so they do whatever they like to do. Don't take life too serious. Enjoy it while it last.

So, life is a game and each person decides for self whether he/she is a winner or loser and you also decide how you will play the game before you start playing.

Many have learned to go over board, and some do whatever they want. So, the Laws of God are indeed vanity as you claim Solomon, your wise man, declared.
Interesting point of view.... well, what can I say but goodluck in your game then.

peteregwu:
Christians are known by their agreement of what goes says in the bible. "by their fruits ye shall know them". If you disagree with what's Jesus stands and you are going the opposite, it is simple, you are not a Christian. One wife, and one husband, that's what the Bible says. And that's peace and rest of mind. Bye

I am afraid you are mistaken... Jesus Christ never said that the fruits He referred to their has anything to do with the book you call your Bible today. That book did not eve exist until about 400 year ago.

The fruits He spoke of instead has to do with the Word of God which He, Jesus Christ, told you is "...every Word out of God's mouth", not to be mistaken with every word written in the book you call your Bible. The fruits of the followers of Jesus Christ is seen through the righteousness of God that is expressed in their very existence... just as it was in the person of Jesus Christ.

I don't disagree with Jesus Christ. What is contention here remains your interpretation of what Jesus Christ said.

sagenaija:
It's the same way that God provided Jesus as an atoning sacrifice for mankind's sin in order to RANSOM man from the penalty of sin with Jesus's GREAT SACRIFICE.

This can be better explained.

https://www.nairaland.com/6270051/misconception-god-sent-jesus-die/1#100917016

https://www.nairaland.com/6491054/offended-me-greatly-take-son#100767615

Lovelyperson:
Life is a game. We win some we lose some and come back to play again or decide not to play again.

Life is a game? To God or to man?
Who decides who wins at what and who loses at what? And in the end, who decides the winners and who the looses in, what I guess, becomes nothing but rounds in the game?

peteregwu:
I don't understand what you are saying? Is polygamy sin or not? It is clearly written. Marriage is between a man and a woman and not for any third party. So, polygamy is a sin. I rest my case

Matthew 19:4-6 KJV
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, [5] And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? [6] Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

So, you're suggesting that the same man cannot by that same law cleave to another woman and become one with that other woman as well?

Or the other way, the first woman cannot, by the very same law, cleave to another man and become one with that other man as well?

peteregwu:
I don't think you are a Christian. You can marry 4.

So you don't think I am a Christian because I declare that you can't honor God by your disobedience of His direct commandment to you?

Lovelyperson:
Many of Jesus words are parable, remember the Bible said hell will also be put inside the lake of fire. And the most wisest man bless by God with wisdom said all is Vanity.

And we are part of the only One. So we all return to him, And make another choice of coming to this particular dimension or going higher or lower or just decide to remain with him and help make this reality a real one to the player of the game of life.

Jesus Words are Parables? Parables are nothing but figures of speech - ideas with meaning embedded in the context that exists in human language and world. Even kids these days are trained to understand, through learning, the meaning behind many of those today. Gone are the days where our fathers considered riddles unsolvable
That said, Jesus Christ spoke some parables and the same Jesus Christ explained many of His parables afterwards.

How does Solomon's claim that "All is vanity", a statement made in reference to the efforts of man on this earth, mind you, imply that the word of God, and the things of God, is vanity?

"And we are part of the only one" ?
"We make another choice of coming to this particular dimension or going to a higher one...".. How did you make your previous decision to coming to this particular dimension and how do you make a next decision for going to a higher or lower dimension?
And how do you decide to remain in Him instead?

So, life is likened to a game and in this game are their winners or losers?

sonmvayina:
If you had sense, at least you will understand. But it has ran away from you.
I said Gods laws are universal. It was given to all of humanity. The jews wove a story round the laws so they can teach it to their children and children children. The same law is the basis of the igbo omenai, the yoruba ifa and the vedas of india.
I quote the torah becauae that is what you ONLY know.
Because you are scared to think with your brain.
There is no where in the law where God said "his son" was coming to die for sin...NO WHERE.
SO you foolishly following a character created by Rome as god is lost.

I am bored already!

Lovelyperson:
No one goes to hell.. We all return to where we all came from.

And where do we all come from?

According to Jesus Christ, Hell and Heaven are real..

sonmvayina:
Why would God share his glory with someone else? You still finding it hard to accept that your jesus is an idol....

All Glory belongs to God... even the glory that is contained in flowers belongs to God. That I am able to beyond such glory when I see the flowers does not mean God shared His glory with the flowers. It simply implies that God is glorified through them.

However, when said flower declares that that which is God's is instead its, then that flower has, by its declaration, made an attempt at stealing God's glory, something that cannot be stolen.

sonmvayina:
You sure do need help...have you seen God before. What is the probability that it was not a demon you encountered...oyinbo give you book, all your sense run leave you..

oh now...na onyinbos give me book, yet not that long ago, you were confidently quoting from the same book, telling me that God did not agree with me....see the kin yeye sense wey you get!
ROFLMAO

peteregwu:
Polygamy is sin and will continue to be sin. God is holy and jesus is holy. He can't alter what he established. That's is why he is God and saviour.

Again, Jesus Christ declared it is sin to add to His commandments your own ideas and commandments.
That you are willing here to go against God supposing you do so on behalf of God should instead make you consider that which is truly driving you here. Obviously, it is against God, so what is it?

peteregwu:
But you can marry as many as you want if you like. You don't need to be a Christian or Jesus follower. Jesus said it, "many are called but few are chosen".

Jesus Christ never did mention anything about how many wives one can have. Again, He declared that your marriages mean nothing in the Kingdom of God so that statement alone is very telling as far as your ideas on marriage truly belong.

Jesus Christ declared that only those who obey His commandments(Truth) are worthy of Him .I.e. can become His followers. So, it is not enough to say you believe and hence you are a Christian by that. No, only those who continue to obey His commandments(Truth) become worthy of Him , and it is in doing so that you are set free from slavery to sin as well.

Kalatium:
lol at bolded.

But restricting women from preaching is not an old testament issue but that of new testament.

It isn't new testament issue but an "opinion of men" type issue which Jesus Christ already made know to His followers as being simply worthless to pursue.

Kalatium:
“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11–12)
While growing up i have always heard that women are never allowed to be preachers.
In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13–14).
God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors over men, which definitely includes preaching to them, teaching them publicly, and exercising spiritual authority over them.
However, i came to observe that there are quite a high number of female ministers like:
Is it due to feminism?
Different bible interpretation or what?
So i want us to discuss this issue here. Why do we still have female ministers despite the bible being against it?

Jesus Christ warned you all against these doctrines and traditions of men , which He declared were lies designed to leave you all cursed since such only serve to nullify the power of God in your lives, rendering your worship of Him meaningless and worthless.

According to Jesus Christ, in His Kingdom, there are no Male or Female, black or white, Old or Young, Mexican or Asian.., etc. Instead there are only children of God, and Jesus Christ is the one and only Teacher/Master and Shepherd over them all.

Any doctrine that teaches anything contrary to that which has been declared by the Master is against Him and so against God.

themanderon:
Just look at the sons of perdition rejoicing at the Ban. The devil must be very proud of them. The truth must be told to this perverse generation no matter the cost. Devil worshippers in high places.

Which one of two business men have the greater devil... your prophet who speaks falsely of God or your YouTube simply keeping to its contract conditions with its many clients?

sonmvayina:
You really dont know you are sick....please see a psychaitrist...

...says the small-minded dingbat who is afraid of facing, head on, the Truth of God.

advanceDNA:
He’s not a Christian.... and he certainly doesn’t believe in the holyspirit...in fact I’ve heard some Muslims say muhammed is the holyspirit...

Actually,I have been reading the so called " Gospel of Jesus by Barnabas" and in there you will find numerous attempts made by muslims scholars over the centuries to replace mentions of the Spirit of God with Mohammed and Angel Gabriel , as a way if authenticating the myth of Mohammed where Christianity is concerned.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Qfx8dX9TCvYjI4YzVjZWYtNDAzMS00ZDc3LWFiZDItOGFhNGYxZTQ4OTQ3/view?hl=en

Nitah1:
I wanted to reply you until I realized that you are a Muslim masquerading as a Christian.

Same reason why I hold back..casting my pearls to the swine and dogs and all that...

Kayberg:
You should be the one to be told that.
You directly contradicts the teachings of the Bible because you were told what you believe even though it contradicts the truth, and you are really expecting me to accept such?
Open your heart, ears and eyes and see the truth staring right at you.
What am I even expecting?
If you can render the Biblical records invalid, you have already shown whose sides you're on.

Funny is, your accusations aside, not a single statement I have made so far stands in contradiction to the Word of God, the standard where the Truth of God is concerned.

Sadly, you cannot even see that since you exist behind a wall built you out of the many doctrines and traditions of men that you have imbibed and continue to follow. Jesus Christ declared that the doctrines and traditions of men were nothing but lies that set curses upon those who receive them by nullifying the power of God in their lives, rendering their worship of God meaningless.

Mykelhendriz:
Bro it’s clear you are queer... don’t come close to me o... because I swear with my life, I will kill you... as in if you know how I hate ona with passion eh, you no go talk to me o

You are free to live in hate of those you love to hate. That is your choice in this life.
Funny, the same choice in life you seek to deprive those who you love to hate.... sad!
Good thing is Jesus Christ declared that those who belong to Him do not hate but instead love even their enemies and pray for them, not against them.

peteregwu:
A married couple can't commit for i still, they commit adultery. Only unmarried people commit fornication. Polygamy is sin and it would lead to hell. Period!

Actually, according to Jesus Christ, the one who turned the descriptions upside down, it is indeed as so.

Matthew 19 vs 9(KJV)

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9. “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”

He repeats the same message elsewhere in the same Matthew

Matthew 5 vs 32(KJV)

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32. ““But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”

Now, you know and you can update others on the new definitions of those words as given you by Jesus Christ.

peteregwu:
Yes! Polygamy is a sin, Mr. Obeying Gods word in the bible is not by force. We have seen pastors, deacons in the church with more than one wife and they still preach on the pulpit. But at the end of their lives, they would pay for their sins.

By then, the word of God in the bible that says,

Matthew 7:20-21 KJV
"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Would be fulfilled in their upon their souls. Heaven is for few people and a place prepared for the prepared people. Heaven is not by chance. I am done!

Again, you have yet to state, in God's own words, that polygamy is indeed a sin. All you have done so far is make attempts at adding to God's Law by preaching your own ideas(doctrines) and traditions as if they are of God. Remember God is against those who do such even in His Kingdom.

jmoore:
If you can't be faithful, better remain single.

Adultery is a proof that such marriage is a SCAM.

Longevity of marriage is not what determines how good the marriage is.

50 years of marriage with domestic abuse is totally not worth celebrating. Same way 50 years of marriage with adultery ain't worth celebrating.

It's like one claiming to be a vegetarian for 50 years but the person ate meat each day for those 50 years. Such vegetarian lifestyle is a SCAM.

Have you met Nigerians?

peteregwu:
The word polygamy was not used in the bible. But more than one wife is polygamy in the our modern term.

As per the question the Jews ere asking jesus was based in divorce. And if the divorce comes in between couples, of course they are bound to marry another wife or husband or even keep messing with side chicks.

Mark 10:2 "And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 10:3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 10:5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."

A smoker, who claimed to be a chtistian once told me that there is nothing wrong with smoking. I told him it's a sin and it would lead him hell if he doesn't repent and forsake it. He is reply was that smoking was not in the bible, so nothing was wrong with it. No matter how one preaches the truth, human beings live evil and they will always find excuse to fall back or incline unto it.

You keep beating about the bush on this.

Where it concerns marriage, Jesus Christ gave them two laws

1) Honor your marriage agreement in obedience to God

2) Divorce is only allowed by God in the case of fornication

A third law He Law which has to do with sexual matters is

3) When you lust in your heart, you do so in disobedience to God.

Other than that, He declared that your marriages are of this world and not of His Kingdom. So, try to attempt an answer based on the Truth of God instead.

peteregwu:
The only thing that make a married man or woman to be remarried is only the death of his or her partner. At that point, he or she is free to remarry. Beczuse only death can seperate or break that law of marriage from any couple. But if they are still alive, even if they are divorce, they have no right to marry according to the Bible. "he that has an ear, let him here what the spirit of God is speaking to the churches".

1 Corinthians 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

Unfortunately, Corinthians 7 vs 39, which was Paul's attempt at explanation there to the Jewish Christians, previously Old Covenant sinners- expounding on why Jesus Christ had to live and die the way He did for their sake - does not fit well into this particular discussion.

The question you are asked is simple... did Jesus Christ declare it a sin for a man to marry more than one wife?

sonmvayina:
Lol...know?...in your delusions...

Oh yes, I do know because my God has explained that much to me. And since I trust Him, therefore I know.

sonmvayina:
Yea, i will let you wallow in your ignorance...maybe in your next life. This one is already wasted..

ROFLMAO

KaideeGee:
I have always been so fascinated by God's word cause it's so full of mysteries.
In church this morning we studied on the Holy Spirit and it came around to the scripture (Lk 3 vs 16) '...He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire'. That struck a chord and I've been trying to decipher it can someone care to explain?

In Jeremiah(5 vs 14) and Jeremiah(23 vs 29), the Word of God is described as being like a fire... that burns in your heart and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces.

In Jeremiah 20 vs 9, the prophet is recorded to have said this of the word of God.

Jeremiah 20 vs 9(ERV)

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9. Sometimes I say to myself, “I will forget about him. I will not speak anymore in his name.” But when I say that, his message is like a fire burning inside me! It feels like it is burning deep in my bones! I get tired of trying to hold his message inside. And finally, I am not able to hold it in.

The baptism by fire, I believe refers to the Spirit of Truth(The Word of God or Jesus Christ) living alongside the Spirit of God(The Father) living inside of those who are born of the Spirit of God. Yes, Jesus Christ promised, not one but two Helpers who will live inside of those who accept(trust) and obey His commandments.