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peteregwu:
The question is where in the bible and not where in the quran or other religious book. Some people dey vex because they have side chick, divorced or with another woman or even planing to marry more, that's why they will keep arguing about one wife and one husband doctrine of Christ.

I have none of those, and yet I will never disobey God by attempting to add my doctrines to His Law where He declares that those who do are against Him.

It really that simple.

DannyG8:
ok

I am on nairaland much of the time though.

Gaggii:
Give a direct answer of why God allowed Jesus to be killed by human

His death was necessary for the mission that He came for, and so He was not merely a human unprepared for what was to come. He knew of it and expected it.

The only way to fulfill the Old Covenant requirement was to attain righteousness and then die afterwards , a righteous man.

Well, Jesus Christ fulfilled the requirements of the Old Covenant Law - He died a righteous sinless man so that all those of the blood of Jacob, who were still sinners
and would would leave the Old way for the New path He had for came to bring would be imparted with His Righteousness and His Death, bringing to an end the hold of the Old Law on them, at the same time maintaining there place in the promise of the Old Covenant while they seek the New Covenant promises instead.

Jesus Christ's death was what I call inevitable and necessary for 2 good reasons. First, most every other prophet before Him was murdered. John the Baptist, the last of them and all He did was preach repentance to a sinful woman to get his head lobbed off. So Jesus Christ came ready to die at the hands of the same thugs. I mean He came in the name of God preaching a departure from the Old way - some would say He was begging to be killed.

Second, in order for His mission to the lost sheep of Israel to be made complete, He had to die. The fulfillment of the Old Covenant made that necessary so that through His death, the lost of Sheep of Israel can gain victory over the Old Covenant as they are ushered into a New one with God. So, for the sake of the Lost Sheep, Jesus Christ needed to die.

Third, for His New Covenant to apply to those of other nations -the gentiles, born dead to the Law by God's design. He had to rise from the dead. This was so that through His resurrection, He imparts the Life that He is to those previously condemned to death since Adam by God's judgment against those who do not know oe believe in Him. In So, For the sake of the Nations, Jesus Christ had to die. So He came knowing and prepared to die.

Jesus Christ had to die so that He could live instead through His followers. They become His body and force by which His work to to continue from generation to generation, all of them of course, driven by Him through submission and obedience to the Law of God.

His blood - the blood of the Covenant - was shed for the forgiveness of the sins of those who belong in His New Covenant. Pretty much since it was to be shed anyways, why not. After all He was a sinless man ...God's own avatar, the Law, and the King Himself in the Kingdom of God so His blood was perfect for the job.

So, in a sense, He died for the sinners, those of the blood of Jacob - He came to call the sinners and not the righteous among them. Though they come to Him, the New Covenant, as Old Law sinners, through impartation of His own Righteousness and His own Death upon them, they are made righteous where the old Law is concerned and dead to it, but give His Life in the New Covenant.

So it has nothing to do with blood sacrifices or human ones as you imagine on altars and what not. His sacrifice is of a different kind entirely.

peteregwu:
Mr, you are not a Christian na. Why are you bothering yourself? All u will do is to keep arguing because it doesn't suit your lifestyle.

Jesus Christ never instructed you to trust in and obey the book you call the Bible, but instead He instructed that you trust in and obey His teachings, the very Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

The good thing is Jesus Christ is the good Shepherd and He alone knows those who belong to Him.

That said, can we get back to the topic at hand then? Where were we? Oh, yes, we were trying to figure out of God in fact recommended only one man to one woman or one woman to one man ...

Kobojunkiee:
So, you're suggesting that the same man cannot by that same law cleave to another woman and become one with that other woman as well?

Or the other way, the first woman cannot, by the very same law, cleave to another man and become one with that other man as well?

Given that Jesus Christ declared that your marriages are of this world and not of His Kingdom, we need also rid ourselves of all abominable notions of holiness of marriage, lies popularly peddled by false teachers and false prophets out there.

DannyG8:
thank man
are you on any social media platforms

not really... yet to catch on with me.

DannyG8:
okay all I need now is to wait and keep trusting and. obeying the commandments

Yep, Obedience is the key to the Kingdom of God, and everything concerning it.

In fact, obedience is the way to please, honor and glorify God. It is the way to God's own heart.

Energy48:
Yes, you are correct. John was alive when Jesus returned and gave him the Revelation at Mt Patmos. Shortly after that, the Romans destroyed Judea (the world of the Jews) and completely wiped it off the face of the world. Exactly as Jesus had foretold. After that for 2000 years there was no country for the dispersed Jews anywhere in Palestine until 1948 when the new state of Israel was founded.
Also, remember the Rapture is invisible, but Jesus left us the signs of it happening. The destruction of Judea and the vision of John that Jesus gave him revealing future events and the end of the entire world shows Rapture had already happened.

I am afraid you are ignoring what I stated. The return in question happened in a vision format (not an actual return). Peter and John were given visions of the actual event which according to their visions is to take place in a far off future.

Rapture is invisible? I don't recall Jesus Christ suggesting that a rapture to take place would be invisible.

Gaggii:
Muslims believe Christian will not make al janah, Christian's believe Muslims will not make paradise.
The funniest part is that the two religion is against logic.
They just want you to believe without using your brain.
It is better to just ignores religion and just believe in existence of God.
You don't need religion to tell you what is good or bad. Common sense will tell you is bad to rape, to steal, to kill e.t.c.
What you don't want someone to do to you, don't do to others

Now you know to say this, but many of you grew up in communities were you probably believed it ok to throw tire around the neck of a thief or offender of any kind and set him ablaze without much of a second thought. Some were raised believing that those who are less privileged are no better than criminals. Where was this common sense you speak of today back then, even when religion was not everywhere to be found?

Yes, religion comes with it's own unique problems but don't pretend that before religion became the headache is it today in Nigeria, that common sense reigned supreme. Those who turned to religion didn't have much of what you call common sense going on for them before then.

Energy48:
Jesus told his Apostles the Rapture will happen before all of them died out. It has already happened. Thus those who are still in expectation are calling Jesus a liar.

If I recall the verse correctly, Jesus Christ said something about there being some who would not taste death until after they had "seen" the son of man coming in His glory.

Well, if you think carefully about it, some of His disciples, at least 2 we know of whom it is written of, did "see", in vision, Jesus Christ returning in His glory before their deaths - Peter and John.

Kingsleyokeke:
I am a sex addict. I have done all I could to stop this addiction but no way. I can't stay for two days without sex. I am just tired of life, at times I think suicide.

Are you certain you have tried everything?

There are two sure ways to be rid of that problem.

1) See a Psychiatrist to help get you on treatment, probably for life, to help you manage the problem. Now there are bound to be side effects mind you but I can assure you that there are indeed effective drugs out there to rid you of your libido at least while you continue on treatment regimen.

2) Other, more permanent solution is to give up and do instead as Jesus Christ commands. As far as Jesus Christ is concerned, you are already guilty of sin from the moment you built up lust in your heart. So, first, you have to choose to see the problem as you would any other sin, where sin is disobedience, a contradiction of God's will and command. Once you do that, you the begin to learn the truth of Jesus Christ, His teachings, as far as Sin is concerned and obey His commandments regarding such things.

As Jesus Christ said, In John 8, when you know the Truth and act on it, the Truth will set you free from slavery to sin, even the sexual kind. The best thing about this option is there are no negative side effects and rather than manage the condition, you rid yourself completely of it and every other forms of sin that you have been struggling with.
If you choose option (2) , please read through John 8 to get you started, and then get an audio Bible and listen to the Gospels as many times you can, paying attention to the Words and teaching of Jesus Christ and doing as He commands.

Kayberg:
Is fornication a sin or not?

FORNICATION is not a sin; Lust in your heart is the sin.

annford:
I visited the Church in Kubwa, Abuja with my Wife cos we wanted to see the Pastor. We were visited on a Sunday, only to be told that if we must see the Pastor, we must check into the Church-owned Hotel on a Friday and the man of God would see us on Monday morning in our Hotel room. That sounded weird and fishy. We asked how much that would cost and we were told it was 250k. 200k for the Hotel room and feeding and then 50k for the pool of Bethesda. 250k to see Pastor? we had to bounce. No be Life and Death matter. I don't know if anyone has ever gotten their healing there.

I wonder if the church in question is still in business , dem for let Covid-19 patients go swim inside jo.

According to the Old Covenant Law/agreement between God and His people, Israel, the only way to fulfill the Old Covenant requirement was to attain righteousness and then die afterward, a righteous man.

Well, Jesus Christ fulfilled the requirements of the Old Covenant Law - He died a righteous sinless man- so that all those of the blood of Jacob, who were still sinners and would leave the Old Covenant for the New Covenant would be imparted with His Righteousness and His Death, bringing to an end the hold of the Old Covenant on them(without penalty), and at the same time maintaining there place in the promise of the Old Covenant while they seek out a new life in the New Covenant.

Jesus Christ's death was what I call inevitable and necessary for good reason. First, most every other prophet before Him was murdered. John the Baptist, the last of them and all He did was preach repentance to a sinful woman to get his head lobbed off. So Jesus Christ came ready to die at the hands of the same thugs. I mean He came in the name of God preaching a departure from the Old Covenant - some would say He was begging to be killed.
Second, in order for His mission to the lost sheep of Israel(Jewish sinners) to be made complete, He had to die. The fulfillment of the Old Covenant made that necessary in order that through His death, the lost of Sheep of Israel(Jewish sinners) gained victory over the Old Covenant as they are ushered into a New Covenant with God. So, for the sake of the Lost Sheep(Jewish sinners), Jesus Christ needed to die.

Third, for His New Covenant to apply to those of other nations -the gentiles who were born dead to the Law by God's design - He had to rise from the dead. This so that through His resurrection, He imparts the Life that He is to those previously condemned to death(dust to dust). So, for the sake of the Nations, Jesus Christ had to die - He came knowing this and prepared to die.

The fourth reason why Jesus Christ had to die was so that He could then live inside of His followers. They become His body and force by which His work to to continue from generation to generation, all of them of course, driven by Him through submission and obedience to the New Covenant of God through Jesus Christ.

His blood - the blood of the Covenant - was shed for the forgiveness of the sins of those who belong in His New Covenant. Pretty much since it was to be shed anyways, why not. After all He was a sinless man ...God's own avatar, the Law, and the King Himself in the Kingdom of God so His blood was perfect for the job.

So, in a sense, He died for the sinners, those of the blood of Jacob - He came to call the sinners and not the righteous among them. Though they come to Him, the New Covenant, as Old Covenant sinners, through impartation of His own Righteousness and His own Death upon them, they are made righteous where the old Covenant is concerned and dead to it, but give His Life in the New Covenant.

So it has nothing to do with blood sacrifices or human ones as you imagine on altars and what not. His sacrifice is of a different kind entirely.

bigfrancis21:
The title is about 'obtaining God's love' and I replied that his love is not conditional, that is you do not NEED to do anything 'to obtain God's love'. Second, Jesus did not 'die for anyone's sins'. This has got to be one of the greatest lies ever sold to mankind.

What do you mean when you say, Jesus did not die for anyone's sins?

bigfrancis21:
God's love is unconditional.
We can't do anything to earn it.
Religious folks can't understand this.

God's love is unconditional but your love is. That is why God gave you an agreement in Jesus Christ stipulatng that your love for Him is shown then through your obedience of His commandments .I.e. your sticking to the terms and conditions of the agreements.

God being the same God who by His agreement with even His people, Israel, determined whether to punish them or to bless them. He hasn't changed , not His mind or His ways. He simply has for you a different Law/ agreement in the person of Jesus Christ and commands that you obey Jesus Christ.

EBMedia:
The gift of One Million Naira given to Ada Jesus by Prophet Odumeje has been rejected by Ada Jesus' mother, IgbereTV reports.

Ada Jesus' mother said her family does not need the prophet's money but only needed him to forgive Ada Jesus who currently has a kidney ailment so as to help Ada Jesus recover from the ailment. Ada Jesus' mother asked for Prophet Odumeje's bank account number so that the money can be refunded.

Prophet Odumeje of Mountain of Holy Ghost Intervention Deliverance Ministry Onitsha gave One Million Naira cash gift to popular comedienne Ada Jesus for the treatment of her ailment after he had forgiven her for defaming his church and alleging that he performs fake miracles.

https://igberetvnews.com/1387711/ada-jesus-mother-rejects-prophet-odumejes-n1-million-gift-ada-jesus-video/

Lalasticlala

I suspected as much that it was her kidney given how swollen she looked in images. But how did she end up at the Man's church business? Whose brilliant idea was it to leave a sick gal sprawled out on the ground in a church, being ridiculed by all and sundry, when she should have been a hospital getting the care she needs instead?
I do hope that she has not been mentally traumatized by the experience in such a way that it will further harm her recovery.

Stateoforigin:
Implicitly, papa is saying those that have taken it are guinea pigs.

How can he be so insensitive?

Those that took the vaccine registered to take it, no one was forced.

So for papa to come and talk about tying of hands is sheer ignorance of the whole thing.

I'm also not taking the vaccine, and that's simply because I'm Hale and hearty.

He is waiting to take it only after the Guinea pigs have confirmed it safe enough for his ok.

davidinchrist:
Nice points, but I would rather say "according to God's Word" not necessarily of a particular denomination/church.
And we should remember to more of DOERS, not just "readers or speakers" of the word: not fooling our own selves.
May Jesus bless you.

According to God's Word, the deadliest sin is idolatry and this according to both the Old and New Covenants.

juniorjoe:
Not just in Nigeria ,but the whole world, a 3days gross darkness from April

We dey April so has your Mog recanted or are you ready to drop him like a bag of turd if his prophesy no pan out?

Yungmil:
There is this constant desire to live a good life, which usually makes one feel cool and happy.
But then there is also a confusion as to what actually is a good and fulfilling life. Could it be relative or its actually a thing of the mind.
Does living a good and fulfilled life means putting smile at the face of others, while you make yourself the sacrifice for their happiness?
Guys what does a good and fulfilled life means to you and how do you go about achieving it?

To some, a good life implies living large and having a blast, getting rid of any one along the way who poses an obstacle to their desires.

To others, it is gotten through a life lived in service of others or people's, even if sponsored by the millitary, corporations, "humanity" or God. So long as they are in position of service, these count it as good.

With a planet of about 8 billion humans, it is indeed relative.

trevorhorace:
Yes sir. 1tim 3: 2

I know what Paul wrote in His letter to Timothy but Paul is not God and last I checked, God said that He alone is Shepherd over His own sheep.
This He declared in Ezekiel 34, and again in John 10.

Lagoon0:
Don't go beyond context. Point to me where the question asked refer to polygamy and stop using divorce question to answer polygamy question.
Common sense is not rocket science

I am afraid it is not that simple either. Jesus Christ did not state a lly of things..... I mean He only gave us about 50-something commandments but from even those He said a lot.

For example, consider the issue of sexual sins. There are those out there who believe that so long as they do not act on their sexual fantasies/lust, no sin has been committed. Some of those who belong in this group are all too ready to lampoon others who they label fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals, all according to old covenant ideas.

However, what many do not realize is that Jesus Christ declared that instead of the old laws that define sexual sins, His Law decrees instead that Lust, that desire that burns in one's heart long before the act is committed , is instead what is sin and what the sinner will be judged for.

Jesus Christ, by this, pointed out that sin, disobedience, is committed not when one acts out one's intention, but instead when that intention is first birthed in one's heart.

I don't know if you get what I am trying to say which is that, it is not that Jesus Christ must specifically state that polygamy is a sin for it to be known as such. Rather we are also to judge the intention behind the act - if born of disobedience then it is sin, regardless of the act itself.

Lovelyperson:
If you say so. You are absolutely right.

It has little to nothing to do with me. you declared it all meaningless from the get-go.

Unique9:
Baptism of the Holy Ghost is free while Baptism of Fire is with a price.

What price?

Lovelyperson:
Anything you say u are correct. Let talk about Jesus Christ. Are you born again?

This isn't really about anything that I have said but what you have declared so far. Since it is all meaningless, according to you, is there even a reason to engage anything? And this all from your supposed understanding of what you claim Solomon said.

How can we talk about Jesus Christ when His idea is diametrically opposed to what you claim?

Lovelyperson:
But in this dimension happiness makes u happy. U will better understand why it meaningless when you wake up which we all know as be dead.

It is while still in this dimension that Solomon declared of that which is termed "happiness" meaninglessness.

Lovelyperson:
humans are not the only living been

I am only certain of humans being in possession of that which I like to call an ego...

Casemiro:
Please I need clear answers, not some random quoting up and down.
As advised, one should seek the face of God while looking for a life partner.
The question here is, how exactly will God reveal this partner to you?
Will you be shown a clear picture of the person in a dream or vision?
will the name be written for you?
I'm confused

Has God ever spoken to you about anything else before?

For example, did you consult God before you dated the first guy or gal you ever went out with or any of the others?

Did you consult God as far as which university to apply to or what major to go for ? Or what car to purchase? Or which apartment to rent?

Lovelyperson:
God is actually more than the 8billion u talked above. All is one and one is all.

Sure, but we know of at least approximately 8 billion living breathing egos at last count that amounts to your definition of who God is.

Lovelyperson:
God luck my brother... Self.

My advice to you.... Enjoy this reality while it last. Do what makes you happy. Be good, and try and learn more.

Do what makes me happy? Why, since the very idea happiness is rendered of no meaning if it is all a game to you?

Solomon himself declared that even that which is happiness, goodness, enjoyment, as far as men are concerned is meaninglessness.

DannyG8:
what should I do now

Continue accepting(trusting) and obeying the other 50-something commandments that Jesus Christ gave His followers even as you wait for the Spirit of God to arrive. By this, you learn the Truth of Jesus Christ, the very Gospel which you are called to go preach. When the Spirit of God sees that you are ready, He will reveal Himself to you at that time and lead you to doing the Will of God.