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goldfish80:
What exactly happened?

He played his normal game but need to show us he can compete with the big boys.

BascoVanVeli:
Golazo

Congratulations oga BascoVanVeli but tell your boys to shake things up cos we want better performance.

Truidstar:
Okpotu has no business leading our attack. He should continue his big man football on the bench. Ibrahim came in and did a marvelous job.
Same for Ifeanyi, made a lot of misplaced passes. Salisu if you have sense, please start the team that played in the second half going forward.

Wa gbayi

tbaba1234:
Humility was very critical of Rohr after the SA game.

I know but na joke i dey dis evening o

goldfish80:
Lol... Please what's the time remaining? I am indisposed to watch the game.

Osas Okoro man where u dey wey u no watch ya boy

Humility017:
Lol...you're right though.
just watching their football sometimes brings out anger in me...

O'boy dey watch the match go joor,the anger wey you no get when we lost to South Africa 2-0 at home,na on top CHAN team you wan pour am abi.OK o.

elyte89:
I av switched off my gen,BORING GAME!


IF ANY MONIKER talk say dis boy try...we go ban am for 49years on dis thread !

OK dem try oya ban me elyte the funny man

tbaba1234:
We can select young locally based players for CHAN, it will serve a greater purpose. At least, you expose them and give them the chance to possibly win a contract abroad.

If a 19/20 year old goes to Sweden for instance, it could benefit the national team because if he improves, he could find himself in the top leagues.

Oga tbaba is not done that way,the CHAN is meant for senior local team,left for Nigeria to get the best in the league,so for now this are the best irrespective of their performance.

tbaba1234:
Those plenty chances was against a poor team. It is not surprising that they can not create against a better side.

Oga tbaba not a surprise comment

tbaba1234:
I would have preferred if a young under 20 team went there and didn't succeed than these old men in the team.

Do we have U20 team?

Humility017:
how you manage to enjoy their game baffles me

Pls Bascovanveli is a patriotic Nigerian who believe that no matter what the team deserves his support,better to thumb him up.

Icon4s:
Kog45 I read your direct response on the above comment. Respect to you.

On the issue of Kelechi Iheanacho's debate, those of us who started this thread know I started that debate.

safarigirl, TheGoodJoe, TheSuperNerd, joseph1013, tbaba1234, bascovanveli and a couple of non-regulars were on my opposite side of that debate. I even received a ban for it.

Just like the hate accusation being meted out to the current Iheanacho critics, same was said of me.
My argument was clear: 'the boy was being overhyped' and 'the boy is not yet there'- a once epic comment here .
I guess I would have won the award of most controversial and most critic if there were any such awards that period. I know what someone like safarigirl felt towards me then . I received plenty of her blows so I know how it feels when she is kicking someone else's' asses here .

However, we have moved on. As we said then "time will tell" and time has started telling.

One thing I want those in the pro-Iheanacho camp to understand is none of our analysts here hates Iheanacho !
I say so again because I was once on the opposite side of the fence. I never hated Iheanacho but they thought I did.

We all want the best for all Nigerian players. I understand it is normal for peeps to have favorite players. I mean, what Iheanacho is to some of us here today was what Kanu Nwankwo was to me back then. I never saw anything wrong in anything he played. I am an Arsenal fan today because of Kanu. Same goes for a good number of Arsenal fans of my generation.

And to those critics of Iheanacho, we need to do it with modesty. Even when I was a strong critic of the hype on him when ever he played well I acknowledged it.
I spoke with Cerezo (Eguavoen) a couple of years back in my office. We discussed Iheanacho and he also downplayed his hype. That was the same night Iheanacho scored a brace against Crystal Palace in a mid-week EPL fixture. That was also the game that prompted Oliseh to rescind his decision of leaving Iheanacho out of the Eagles. I came here that night to acknowledge Iheanacho's abilities as a young striker. I didn't say we should wait till he scored against Chelsea or Manunited before acknowledging. And we moved on.

I for one can criticize anybody here. If you know how close Emma Amuneke and I are you would wonder why I would ever criticize him for anything. But when he failed with the U20s I raised my big stick towards him. You wonder how I would criticize him after supporting him all the way to win at the U17? My love for the GWG.
When a player or coach does not do well we should be free to criticize and vice versa but where it is bad is when we pay blind eyes to either the good or bad sides of the entity we are criticizing or defending.

Arguments here no be do or die o. Some times your predictions or expectations can be right and some other times can be wrong.

Arguments are not bad. I mean, that is what keeps this thread going. It is Very important that we need to know when to withdraw from an argument when the heat is approaching boiling point
That is one of the safest ways to stay away from insults.

One Love everyone.

God bless you sir

kennysville:
Honorable house,
I hereby present a bill and move for its sporadic adoption. This bill seeks to address the bias/ hate for or against Iheanacho Kelechi. This bill seeks to put a stop to every form of heated argument, name calling over this innocent soul.
We are all witnesses to this brouhaha that has seemingly come to epitomize the collective unionity in a frivolous brigandage and militia cum ......(ok that was a lame attempt at trying to be Honorable Patrick Obahiagbon)


My word! If this is goin on in a forum like Nairaland. Jabs here and there, Name calling, ever wondered what could be happening in the senate? The magnitude of it? Remember the àjekún ìyà ni yó je saga? We can deal with issues without having to resort to insults. I am sorry MrSuperNerd. I know you are pissed right now but let us leave personal perceptions of other people out of the discussion. Lets not have a pissing contest in here. You just returned shey? Sofri sofri abeg.

Therr is nothing we can do or say to change any human being and once we realize that, we need to respect people's views, however illogical, radical, methodical or downright stupid they may seem. This is the reality. Some people love black as a color, others love red. Those who love red cant ever u derstand or see reason why any sane minded person will ever love black as a color and ones that love pink believe it is the best. Discussions in here arent military instructions where you have to obey the last word of command. I believe the cliche is "that's an order, soldier" (even if it is to neutralize someone dear to us)

We are all different however inconceivable our opinions may seem. To this end, I enjoin you sir SuperNerd to read through your posts and wherever you feel u went above and beyond on this matter, kindly make amends. You were sorely missed when you went on exile. Lets not have a repeat. Thanks

I read your comment and am happy but do we need to appeal to anyone on how he or she make comment again cos we have been doing this all over and over again and is not working,so better to leave it and let the attacks continue.I know when times come it would mellow down naturally.

On Iheanacho, well I don't have much to say cos i see him the way i see other players and as i always saying it we must respect these players personality, respecting their personality does not stop us from expressing our views on them but such views should be in a well constructive manner.As it stand Kelechi deserves our support and he too should not relent cos we want the best for him.

I don't want to mention names but am not happy the way we make comments here especially personal attacks,if i may ask on what,football matters especially Super eagles which we all love.We should always have it in mind that eagles brought us to this thread,nothing more and everyone's opinion must be respected,it's not compulsory we should be on the same page,being on the same page we won't be at 2k plus pages.

My man as i said there is no need to apeal again cos we have had enough, so let it continue cos i don't expect a mature minds to resort to personal attacks when it comes to discussion.It's uncalled for

The main Iheanacho man here is thegoodjoe and i have great respect for this gentleman cos he always based his views on Nacho with constructive analysis and never look emotive to express his view on those who have contrary opinions which i always appreciate and i take a cue from him regards my approach to anything on Mikel cos is a player i love so much,Michael2 will understand better.

I still remember how some guys came in and made the thread heated up that some regulars have to be on ghost mode,they turned this thread up and down,i know icon4s will remember what am talking about,also how TheSuperNerd went on AWOL and some honourable member of this thread appealed to him to come back cos we missed him dearly.

One thing we should note here there are things to gain from this thread that even football that brought us together,i don't think going to London and move around shouldn't be an issue to any of us here cos Komne is on ground or going to US and move around with the presence of icon79,better for us to take it softly the way we address ourselves cos we still have a lot to do together.

As i said personally i will not appeal for peace to reign again,we are mature enough to know what is right and wrong,what brought us here is eagles and it would be foolish of anyone here to hate or wish the team bad irrespective of the criticism.

Respect to all members of this great thread and Up Super Eagles.

Sparkies85:
The two markets are owned and dominated by the igbos, so no need for comparison

Thank you.OP already failed on arrival,his aim is to continue normal tribal supremacy but forgetting that Igbo's are the real players in both market.

The Yorubas are just too industrious and bigger than Alaba or Aba market stuff,so no need to heat the already heated polity.

Respect to the Igbos for making Alaba what it's today and Yoruba for playing great host,this is what we want not bigots tribal bandwagon like Op.

AskProf:
You are wrong: The Land Rover vehicle was introduced in 1948... At least, they were in use during the colonial times & post-independence era including the Nigeria/ Biafra war...

I thought both of you are on point and no need to argue much cos the Land Rover official website is available and it was stated INTRODUCED in 1948 but FOUNDED in 1978 now left for you guys to do your research why is it so cos it bring confusion to ordinary layman like me

Kadejo:
I no see Range Rover

Open your eyes or you don't know that Land rover produced Range Rover.The products of Land Rover are LR2,LR3,LR4,RR sport, RR vogue,RR Evogue,RR velar which is the latest model,also new LR5,in LL and RR we have discovery,defender,autobiography.

TheSuperNerd:
Typical. You have never one day spoken about his abilities to hit a freekick but she he did against Argentina, it is nothing to you because he has always had the ability abi. lol... Taking that stand just to make it look like he didn't surprise you with his freekick goal abi. kwantinue.

I recall one day speaking of Nacho's potential to hit a good freekick long before his foal against Argentina and I said that based on the accuracy of his strikes which I have studied closely. But you have never for one day noticed that fact until now. Just because you want to show that he is not improving. That freekick have been in hia locker all along... Freekicks on the biggest stage ooo against a team like Argentina. Wehdone.


AND HE DID NOT SCORE AGAINST Swaziland. He did so against Tanzania. Sebi I corrected you once on that with Moses Simon. First leg No goal but Simon hit the post from a freekick. Second leg, Simon scored a beauty of a freekick.



And my narrative is plain simple. You say he has been turned into a fox in the box and I ask you, "All his goals and beautiful plays for Nigeria and even some for Man City and Leicester, does it show only the attributes of a fox in the box? All those long range strikes, belters, curlers, visionary passing leading to sweet assists, ability to catch up with the speed of an attack, and more sebi na fox in the box dey do all that abi??

You make it sound as if Nacho's Vision and techniques were coached out of him only because City for the most parts focused on his finishing as a striker since they had other options in the AM roles. But his displays overtime against Tanzania, Zambia, Southampton, Leeds, Man Utd, Crystal palace (under Pellegrini), and even Argentina of late have debunked your "Nacho is a fox-in-the-box" hypothesis.

A fox-in-the-box will be lost when it comes to contributing to build up plays and when it comes to using his Vision to loacte the most intelligent of passes thus creating chances for others. Sadly this is lost on you because you only see Nacho as a fox in rhe box with no other abilities besides Finishing and positioning.

And no I don't think... I know he is not there yet (thanks Chief Icon4s ).

I know he has a lot to still improve but it also cannot be denied that he has improved and stepped up further in other aspects like his ability to hit a good freekick, and his Vision is even better at this moment and can only keep getting better.

He still needs to perfect his first touch but his show against Fleetwood was a good start considering he has not been getting enough playing time. Finished product? Lol... Ofcos he is not but he certainly have shown improvements. His reading of a game is also fantastic.

TheSuperNerd vs goldfish80 na real royal rumble, continue an enjoying the two sides analysis and pin points.

Edopesin:
Locomotive Moscow Actually

Good news,whether is CSKA or LOCOMOTIVE' all we need is playing time that would prepared him better for WC

Isahalbash:
I saw somewhere according to Gernot Rohr.. Musa is going back to Russia( Cska Moskow).

Good news,hope it materialised cos it would be a better deal than playing for Leicester U23 in the name of fitness

Humility017:
probably rivers United pre-season outing in Spain influenced their ratings....

I don't think pre season got anything to do with the rating.

CC:Bascovanveli

NwaNimo1:
Everything about Benue seems backwards....... look at the state of that office, the files on the desk and the technology being used.

Pls we are talking of 75 dead souls here and you are talking about state of the office,files and technology,sometimes i do not understand guys here when it comes to comment.

Humility017:
but musa plays week in...week out for the under 23 side...
he is not match rusty but fit...so it won't tell much...
don't want him to miss the world cup party after all he can regain some match fitness too wit those friendlies....

My man are you saying playing for U23 which is youth football is enough for WC bound player

IamPatriotic:
I will join the cabals on this, it's a laudable project.

Laudable project?better concentrate on something meaningful Mr laudable project

Icon79:
Ol' boy, no be jersey dey play o. Na system dey play. We used to sing that song in high school


O pari

Yea not jersey but better to have it good though nobody rate jersey at WC but performance.

Icon4s:
Don't you think we love those Jerseys because we did well?

True talk

Icon4s:
Good kits but no be this one he is laying emphasis on it being the most beautiful ever. I am more interested in the team having the most beautiful outing ever.

Remember we had one of the beautiful kits at US 94 and we did well,hope to see lovely jerseys and good performance.

somehow:
Well it's on the thread we read comments like this. You can read back.

Just stating it so that we won't have any double standard when it comes to others.

OK sir

Icon4s:
They should just remember we are not going for a fashion parade.

Kai oga icon4s no be we want better kits,do not worry we are having a great performance at WC.

TheSuperNerd:
I know where he stands. I know he is for the greater good of the Super Eagles and all our players. But I was simply addressing his talk on tribalism being the reason for Happiness and positive reviews over Nacho's good show yesterday. Simple.

And I repeat, no one laughed at Kayode. Only one moniker gave him a mention and that is obviously because of Egbon Forgiveness who has been hyping Kayode and rubbishing Nacho. Realpoacher only used the psychological tool of defence to counter all earlier castigation attempts at Nacho using Kayode as his comparison. So no one laughed.... But Nacho have been laughed at here so many times.

My man with your first paragraph your got me wronged.I was referring to two monikers who mentioned forgiveness and Kayode to applaud Iheanacho.

Nacho is a top rated youngster and ahead of Kayode in any ramifications for now,so better to pass the message without hurting anyone and let have great discussion.

Mind you if not for Nacho do you think i w sit down and be watching Leicester vs Fleetwood.In the first leg i sat glued to see Nacho in action but needed to wait till 80 mjns before he has was introduced.I came down here to show my concerns toward the young man career.

I was in UAE in 2013 when Golden eaglet won WC,i did not miss any Nigeria matches cos of my boy Awoniyi who i knew back in Nigeria but my love for Kelechi Iheanacho started in UAE and still remain till today but i will not be biased especially towards comments that could disrupt this beautiful thread.

kennysville:
DISCLAIMER!

I wasnt referring to Oga Kog or Icons4s. The word should av been "we".

I was pointing their attention to the genesis of issues that border around percieved tribalism as as demostrated by a moniker.
I agree that both give balanced view on things. I am only here to set the records straight. This is not about right and wrongs on their part. Choice of what we all wanna go with rests solely with us as individuals

My man no wahala.I understand your point of argument and Mujtahida too,God bless you guys,hope to see a better Nigeria where all we shunned ethnicity supremacy and see ourselves as brother and sister.

Mujtahida:
Sir Kog45 is entirely for Nacho. He is only against laughing with Nacho and laughing at Kayode. He is saying that to do that is the same as the tribalism people accuse forgiveness for whereby he is perceived as laughing at Iheanacho and laughing for Kayode. Kog.45 is saying we should laugh when all our players do well and cry when they fail irrespective of ethnic origin

God bless you for this clarity.

MetalJigsaw:
I totally agree with you now. But it'll be hard for Rohr to drop Musa for the reasons I stated earlier.

My man i understand your point,truly Rohr might not drop him even with his current status but better for Musa to find a way out.