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andrewbaba44:
I asked a question sir

Can you answer it ?
I need to know if a striker with poor stats from the farmers league will start in the epl for the almighty Fulham that’s better than Porto

Using the argument of the REASONABLE man and this is not something that is beyond you.

Particularly if you so desire to go beyond the superficial and appraise matters objectively with comparison

Below two screen shots of the player line up of a recent match by both teams in their respective leagues.

Let's look at the Porto fc main forward players are Marega, Evanilson, Teremi and Martinez. What's thier pedigree Marega climbed his way from Tunisia, through the lower leagues of France, Teremi in 2018 was playing in Iran, meanwhile Martinez could not go beyond U23 in West Ham and left West Ham in 2019 on a free transfer.

Now let's look at Fulham forward players Ademola, Mitrovic, Loftus cheek, Decordova-reid.

In my opinion the only player with substance in the Porto live up is Marega. The rest will not smell the EPL.

Mitrovic isn't in form injuries have not helped but his pedigree is not in doubt. No introduction needed for Ademola and or Loftus-Cheek, finally Decordova-reid has scored 5 goals in the EPL.

We could look at the midfield none of the midfielder can touch Angisa the defence is not up for debate.

So how exactly is Porto so much better than Fulham FC? ❓ Because they are in the Portuguese league. ❓

Don't just join the rabble and make assumptive deductions borne from ignorance. Explain highlights and expand, let's compare objectively.

I may even be convinced to agree with you.

ariesbull:
why dont they give them their Biafra...the Igbo are tired

Once you have militant inclined groups l ed not by democratic process but coercion, intimidation and disinformation.

You have a very big problem.

They are creating an atmosphere where any criticism against IPOB is met with violence and intimidation.

So Igbo people do not often express their opposing true view in public about Nnamdi and IPOB because of harassment and intimidation.

If Nnamdi was so popular why did he not contest election and win❓ ❓ ❓ That means every state and Federal legislator, Governor from the East will clamour for an Igbo independent state. It will be actualized without much contention.

However, will a landlocked nation that has thrived by integration, association, partnership and participative engagement in multi faceted types of business activities. To incredible success across Africa in particular and the world in general.

Now thrive in ISOLATIONISM in a landlocked country. Look at what BREXIT is doing to the UK it's already on the brink of economic depression.

That's why no sensible and intelligent Igbo man will support the rantings of the megalomaniac Nnamdi and allow himself to be denigrated and plummeted into submission to his idea of democracy.

bidexiii:
JUST IN: President Buhari has written to the National Assembly, seeking confirmation of the recently appointed Service Chiefs, the letter sent to the Nigerian Senate President Ahmad Lawan was dated January 27.

Does it really matter, this is RUBBER STAMP National Assembly in my opinion it is the WORST set of legislators since 1979.

But they have one never changing record, Highest paid legislators in the world.

Barryseal:
Bukayo Saka will add nothing to the super eagles.
I practically stopped coming here when I came across that.

Lol what's new

andrewbaba44:
Josh maja automatically a starter at fulham with just 2 goals in 17 games in the french league ?

It seems mitrovic and cavaleiro are so bad at the moment

we watch

This is the kind of supposed informed football analysis based on what.

Subzero047:
Liverpool aren't going to defeat Tottenham with a defence of Matip and Henderson

3-1 says you have no idea.

Tottenham got schooled it could easily have been more.

Tolulopefinest:
There was a time when some people were actually making a comparison between Mane and Onyekuru.

That's very normal on this thread.

Subzero047:
West Ham, West Brom and Fulham want Josh Maja

I prefer he joins Fulham because it would automatically make him a starter in a good team that may avoid relegation

Josh Maja will not be an automatic starter in any of those teams.

It seems like over inflated newspaper talk.

BabaOwen:
No politician alive in the south east have more loyal followers than Nnamdi Kanu. The FG won't make such a disastrous move.

That does not mean he has the most followers.

The most fanatical loud mouthed bunch of thuggish and violent members, a resounding YES.

Why did he not test his intellect and popularity by contesting an election for the senate and see how far his assumed popularity will go.

Bolowolowo:
Musa will trial with West Bromwich before they make their final decision on his signing

Thats almost an insult.

andrewbaba44:
I am not sure if I have even seen any black player at burnley maybe nkoudou who didn’t even play much there

A few years ago l spent a lot of time there.

Was very good friends with the HO recruitment etc but I you tell that Sean Dyche the language from his mouth CHEI !!!

He once said, we don't want foreign players here, just British players those foreigners don't have the right attitude.

We black guys who are in the know, knew exactly what he meant.

andrewbaba44:
Lol ,overhyped? Maybe by some guys here sha

Mikel should not be in your sentence ,is it because he is 33 ? Dude is still better than many younger ones out there

Adlene guedioura was 33 during the afcon while playing for the championship just as Obi Mikel and he bossed the midfield in all Algeria games and was the best CM in the tournament

I absolutely 100% would still invite Mikel to the SE because we have plenty of young pretenders but No true quality comparable replacement.

sanctity454:
You don't embarrass your boss in public, he shouldn't have posted the video online, rather he should have escalated the issue to the highest level, even if it means seeking audience with the president. What he did deserves punishment, it's against a professional conduct.

You really need to upgrade and then download up to date understanding of what is modern day universal standards obtainable in progressive countries.

The term boss is outdated and open to multi faceted interpretations dependant on the norms and values acceptable in your country.

Deviation, when I was at Russell group university business school post graduate many years ago. The Professor was teaching in the auditorium with about 200 students. I felt that he had got it wrong and his position was not substantiated by current practice. He promptly stood up and said, Komekn you are correct can you please take the lecture, I think we can learn from you.

Now imagine you were in Nigeria and you challenge the view of your Professor. What would be the result. ❓ Embarrassing your Professor before the whole auditorium ❓

Having that thought in mind. All combatants in the British Army are very conversant with Army rules, regulations policy and process management. Hierarchical structure of command and how it is governed by these regulations.

When a command is not covered by Army rules and regulations, a junior officer can relieved you of your command.

I must say unfortunately the huge larger majority of NCO's are so close to being illiterate as well as lacking in understanding, they then become very brutish and without the capacity to make an informed knowledge based decision.

Orders are ENFORCED irrespective of the validity and any questions asked are considered to be Extreme insubordination and you are in a court martial before you know it.

The problem is the inherent long standing culture that is prevalent in the armed forces. There is sense of it being a political organisation with a charismatic leader not led by policy, process and legality but personality.

In reality Burutai is highly unprofessional and should really be probed.

My position is not for compromise. General Adeniyi is a true patriot and should be given COMMENDATION.

Subzero047:
Sean Dyche has kept Burnley in the premier league for years by sheer will power

Burnley has no right whatsoever to be a premier league team

I know Burnley very very very well.

This is the quintessential English kick and rush, blood and guts football team. And Dyche is slave driver literally. And if you are black you will not survive there.

Will NEVER advise any black player to go there.

lloydtruth:
It's definitely not a drill or fluke. We better give the guy the support he needs to start banging the goals in the GWG jersey.

When you invite a players like Onuachu you must play to his strength and adapt the style accordingly.

Unfortunately when it comes to crossing the ball a very basic skill set our players fail at this woefully.

Them we then start condemning him that he is not good enough for the SE.

maidaboi:
FIFA has cleared the following to play for Nigeria:

Ademola Lookman (Fulham)
Tosin Adaragioyo (Fulham)
Nathan Tella (Southampton)
Ovie Ejaria (Reading)
Sheyi Ojo (Cardiff City)
Noni Madueke (PSV Eindhoven)
Jordan Torunarigha (Hertha SC)
Ike Ugbo (Cercle Brugge


http://forum.cybereagles.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=303074&view=unread#unread



How I wish this to be true

If this is true it is somewhat DISSAPOINTING but not TOTALLY.

Selection to the SE has to be for the most outstanding consistent top players of Nigerian origin in thier club and league.

UNDOUBTEDLY without question Ademola, Tosin and Ovie bring immediate top quality to the team and could easily cancel out any existing players in those positions.

However, l really do not know what Seyi is doing there, for me he has not been outstanding, Jordan Torunarigha according to Whoscored has only played 6 games all season, sorry not good enough.

Nathan Tella is the same done nothing of substance 6 games or so in the EPL. Sorry not good enough.

Noni Madueke has not played regularly enough to be outstanding as well ,he couldn't cut it at Tottenham youth level and went not to another EPL or Championship club but the Eredivisie.

Ike Ugbo was anonymous to be kind in three clubs he played at two in English league one, 15 games and one goal is poor. However, he is young and may have improved, l really do not know ❓

But in the HERE and NOW he has done better than what Osimhen did in Belgium league 21 games 11 goals this season so far. In this regard I can be justified.

I expected the NFF to have done more not just look at prospective future talents but proven established and proven top quality players like Tosin, Ademola and Ovie and to a lesser extent lke Ugbo.

andrewbaba44:
Nwakali is not doing well but you are too harsh on him

I am not too HARSH.

He has been OVER HYPED and given way too much attention and opportunity without deserving it.

Factually without prejudice he has done nothing for the past 5 years if substance. For goodness sake how long is the football career.

I absolutely 100% will rather have Mikel Obi in the SE over him right now and over Frank Onyeka and other like players .

Alfryd:
Aribo came out of league one to Ranger (Europa League Team) and he earn his SE call up

SE calling a league one player is a let down

face the fact

Not if that player is the most outstanding in the league and in his club, No.

But l also think it's very dissapointing and a downgrade to be inviting players in backwater leagues like Turkey and the Scandinavian leagues to mention a few.

Don't you also agree.

You may have noticed that I have not recommended one Nigerian players to the SE from the English league one.

charlesemeka85:
Allnigeriasoccer.com has been told that former Arsenal midfielder Kelechi Nwakali is angling for a loan move away from La Liga club SD Huesca before the close of the January transfer window.

The 2015 FIFA U17 World Cup-winning captain is hoping to leave the Azulgranas on a temporary basis to get more playing opportunities.

Although Nwakali has consistently made SD Huesca matchday squads for La Liga matches, he has managed only five appearances in the division, the last of which came against Osasuna on November 20, and has logged 238 minutes in all competitions.

Spanish Segunda Division side Logroñés have opened a line of communication with SD Huesca over the loan signing of the former Golden Eaglets and Flying Eagles star until the end of the 2020-2021 season.

Representatives of the midfielder are also in talks with an unnamed Belgian First Division A club about a transfer and are hoping to strike an agreement within the next forty-eight hours.

Having said that, SD Huesca higher-ups want Nwakali to remain in Spain so they can closely monitor his performances while the Diamond Academy product would not mind moving to Belgium.

The plan is for the midfielder to play between fifteen to twenty games wherever he ends up.

Dude is like expired drug very ineffective no matter how many pills you take or time given for them to work.

andrewbaba44:
You are very silly for comparing rangers to league one teams

In the uefa rankings It was just recently turkey went lower than the Scottish league and don’t make it look like it has been there for long

Galatasaray fenerbache besiktas have better players than rangers and Celtic for your info ,they even attract big players than Celtic and Rangers so what are you saying ?

We should not call players from the Turkish league but we should call useless players from the English league one ? You must be mad

Our best midfielder Aribo came from league one but is he at league one right now ?

Your crappy league one players should leave there first before we will take a look at them

Let's look at the facts and decide who is lacking in knowledge, understanding and without vision.

Dele Alli went from MK Dons to England senior team literally, Ademola Lookman went from league one straight to the EPL. I can add Justin James, Mason Holegate, Rob Holgate, Alfie Devin all left League one straight to the EPL. Among so many others.

Aribo invitation was not anchored on Rangers perfomance, his invite preceded his playing time at Rangers.

When a person considering the bold, struggles to comprehend a simplistic comparison. What do you call them ❓

Let me reiterate again and again do that you might finally be able to understand, comprehend and digest, simple comparison justification.

That is to say, " What's good for the goose is good for the gander"

It is widely accepted that the Scottish league is in general on par with the English league one.

And if Scottish league is higher than the Turkish league, why then can you not invite players from the English league ( albeit not my preference) . ❓ Very simple, unless we are having double standard.

I did not say we should exclude players from the Turkish league but if they can be invited why not League one too. And if we cannot, that becomes bigoted double standard. However, you have created a notion by yourself and attributed it to me. What do you call that ❓

Although my proviso always remains. "It is better to be a Lion in a lower league and club than an anonymous mouse in a top club and league" in this regard there should always be exceptions.

In football we talk about the HERE and NOW so it's not of NO significance that it is only recently.

Finally, l cannot legislate for your over active imagination and what you perceive, but try to remain with honour and integrity and not decend to telling LIES and abuse.

12large1:
In this life, one simply cannot impress everyone. For example, iheanacho commitment and ambition is being questioned here by many due to his comfortability being on Leicester bench and not seeking elsewhere or Another club while the same people are Questioning onyekuru "Ambition" for seeking "playing time" at a familiar club. At the end of the day, as players you simply cannot impress everyone and for the most part, you will be criticized irrespective of your decision. BTW, turkey league is a farmers league but Galatasaray is a medium big club and if onyekuru can succeed at that club, he will get his SE opportunities

Even if you cannot impress you must PERFORM unfortunately KC has neither impressed or PERFORMED commensurate to his transfer fee.

kabe1:
Even though Adeniyi meant well with his video, he should still be punished.

For the following reasons;

- He was the GOC 7 division, he needed to show leadership, he did not. That video was demoralizing, he was taking troops in battle, nobody needs a simp in a life and death situation.

- He recorded and distributed a video in an unsafe, very unprofessional manner.

- The video showed operational areas

- The video, a classified material leaked to the general public.

- It was PR coup for Boko-Haram, ISWAP and the rest of the terrorist bandwagon.

You have different standards of what you consider professional.

I believe General Adeniyi is a true patriot and selflessly put his life on the line well earned status for the benefit of the soldiers under his command.

He should be promoted and made the COAS.

Whyem15:
What exactly does IPOB want? We need to know that before any negotiation can begin.

Is it cessation? That isn't negotiable.
Is it restructuring? They should demand their representatives and senators push for it in the national assembly.

If it is about other things, you can state them and we can discuss here.

The systemic and wide spread failure of this government has given petrol to start the engines of disunity and armed brigandry across the entire length and breadth of the country.

When government FAILS so badly as this regime had it gives room to opportunist self seeking groups to fill the gap. But it's insincere it is not done for the people but a few individuals to position themselves to power and enrich themselves.

Nigerian politics is not SELFLESS it is SELF -SEEKING and WICKEDLY SELFISH.

The UK is now suffering on all fronts from a very stupid and idiotic break up from the EU ( BREXIT). That brings zero socio-economic benefit to the people. However, it given unhindered unquestionable control to the
ruling political elite.

Unfortunately most people are not informed even not that well educated and are very easily swayed by sentiment and prejudiced notions that have no substance. Unfortunately such people are in the majority in Nigeria.

The security apparatus has failed COMPREHENSIVELY and the man to blame is PMB. There is now a huge vacuum and when such a vacuum exists other players will fill it in.

We now have ESN, OPC ( chief Igboho) and many others. Imagine you are driving and in broad daylight on the Lagos Benin Road you can be kidnapped like chickens into the bush. Ethical zero response from the police.

It will come to a point you will be considered to be extremely stupid to rely on the police to protect you. Because they just have one interest extorting money criminally from the public.

The Army is already over stretched they no longer have the capacity to ensure security in the nation.

Alfryd:
We can't be packing Championship and league one players into super Eagle

moreover we're not TOGO, LESOTHO, TANZANIA etc

so let ikpeazu enjoy his UGANDA CAREER

But we can have players from the backwater leagues of Europe and the Turkish league which is even lower than the Scottish league.

One of our best if not best new Midfielder Joe Aribo came from league one. In case you have forgotten.

And the Scottish league is reputed with good authority to be on par with English league one.

That's a very intelligent deduction.

Subzero047:
Ighalo says goodbye to Manchester United

In my opinion one of Nigerias best strikers on a personal note his humility is beyond measure, a truly nice guy.

Arabiandude:
Tomori has joined AC Milan, I guess on loan.
He is currently on the bench vs Inter

Very soon he will claim position, thrive and dominate.

Hopefully he will reconsider playing for Nigeria as the FIFA rules may give some flexibility for change of allegiance.

Yesterday Frank Lampard got sacked after a struggling time at Chelsea well below the expectations.

I would add he was arrogant and lacked depth of understanding at that level.

He even went as low to call Tega Championship striker, Chelsea best Striker in a long time.

On this thread many celebrated with joy their misguided prejudiced based projections. The said that Timo Werner has arrived and it's the end of for Tega, he isn't anywhere as good as him so on, so forth.

I made it clear with a substantive appraisal that the EPL is not the Bundesliga that all these players he bought for £200 million will most likely struggle.

I even said it prophetically by projection that, Lampard will get sacked before Tega leaves.

Well it's happened, were are all the bitter-leaf �soup and bad belle detractors now. They have all gone quite.

Finally, it's second half and no matter what happens Tottenham will win, it's a question of how many.

But Wycombe will try thier best.

AndSunGorilla:
I agree with you that Telles is probably better than Sanusi and yes he is warming the bench at Man Utd. So is Fulham also better than Man Utd or at par with Man Utd now sir?
Thank you!!!

I didn't introduce that comparison but countered it.

Watching Wycombe Wanderers against Tottenham.

Interestingly Wycombe have 4 Nigerian in the Squad.

It's half time and it's 1-1 Tottenham scoring in the last seconds of the first half.

And Fred Onyedinma scored forgotten by mm any here. Ikpeazu is bulldozing the Tottenham defence they guy is just too strong for them.

I remember Ikeapazu when in 2013 he was the hottest U18 striker in England highest goal scorer even scored three hatrick, two against Chelsea and one against Arsenal. Even then he was a man mountain.

His mother is Ugandan but his Dad is Nigerian he wanted desperately to play for our youth teams but nobody called him.

Danielnino00:
More load of thrash.. Where is LAWMA self??

There are a lot of English club fans on this thread but none of them sound so unnecessarily sentimental and dumb as u when it comes to comparing English teams with others..
Outside of the big 6, most clubs in the EPL would struggle against even mid table teams of clubs outside Europe top 5 leagues..
The Portuguese league being rated below the English language doesn't in anyway take away the quality of it's top teams like Porto,Benfica and sporting...it is the same Portuguese league that Bruno Fernandes came from..

And to chip in to the discussion, Salisu will walk into this Fulham starting eleven...

That's not the chip but the core subject of this particular discussion.

Your approach is Sentiment based emotive rambling garnished with assumptive preferences.

Fernandes has been exceptional but l could give you a list of players from the Portuguese league who STRUGGLED into anonymity big time, such as Renato Sanchez, Eder, Tiago, Gedson Fernandes, Alex Tella to name a few.

We could add one of my favourite Nigerian midfielders Etebo who struggled to make an impression in the Championship not even the EPL.

Unfortunately, It's one way traffic almost little or nothing going to Portuguese league from the EPL so it's difficult to make player comparison.

On every unit of object measurement Salisu fall way below the existing full backs in Fulham. Robinson is a USA international, Tete is a Dutch international and Aina has more pedigree and caps than Salisu for the SE.

If we look at market value he is below.

Let's look at the player he replaced at Porto Alex Tella who all will agree is much better than him. Alex Tella is warming the bench at Manchester United.

My approach is not sentiment but objective appraisal.

andrewbaba44:
Everything wey you talk for here na rubbish

Just see the criteria wey you take Dey judge team

Fulham and Porto should not be on the same sentence ,so because rangers beat Porto and Fulham better pass rangers mean say Fulham better pass Porto ? Or what are you saying self

If we are to be sincere only about 6 epl teams are better than Porto

Thats not what my deductions are anchored on.

And the core subject was Sanusi better than the existing Wing backs at Fulham, IMO he is not. The three players he is contending with one plays for the USA, the other for the Netherlands and then our own Aina.

The question that has arisen in the course of the deduction is Porto better than Fulham❓ ln my opinion, NO.

If the EPL is 4 places ahead of the Portuguese league that's an indicator of quality. If you look at market value of Fulham and Porto players in addition to pedigree they are almost on par.

If Fulham played in the UCL where would be they be, l don't know. But l can say conclusively they will do alot better than clubs in much lower league like Celtic and Rangers.

West Bromwich beat Wolves against all odds are they therefore better ❓

So what will you anchor your proposition on SENTIMENT ❓ . Because, using your proposition Porto is better than Chelsea, Arsenal, Wolves Crystal Palace, etc