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If yakubu mahood and his inec criminal gang could do abacadabra and claim glitch in only the presidential election despite having 3 elections on the same day,

If tinubu submits fake certificate to inec and ariwola and his criminal team say it does not matter

If tinubu could claim he attended a school at a time the school has not even come into existence,

You should not blame the Nigerian army for denying this.

Nigeria don cast. This is hard to say but Nigeria is on a free fall to collaspe. It will take a hard bitter action to hold the country from collaspe.
Tinubu is a curse on the nation.

Remember end SARS no soldiers was at Lekki toll gate senior army generals claimed on live TV .

Later change story in the face of live TV footage in one the largest city metropolis in the world. With millions looking on both on live TV and present at the Lekki toll gate .

The army said nobody was killed they only used blank bullets that changed again to self defense only a few minor injuries on civilians.

The judicial panel called it a massacre with over a 160 people killed and many more injured. To date nobody has been held to account irrespective of the indictments.

The army has a history of blatant lies, abuse, wanton killings, wide spread corruption and outright disinformation and deceit.

You are asking dishonourable people to be honourable and have integrity.

Is there anybody that will believe the army account here ❓❓

Mujtahida:
You can't tell me otherwise, you don chop this soup many times that's why it's stuck in your mind 😂😂

Actually l deh find am with torch 🔦 light , but I no see , in addition with BETTER Smoked dry fish 🐠 and goat 🐐 meat 🥓.

Well when I get to Nigeria I go chop am till belle full forget six pack

quickberry:
How many times has your world class Rashford won the Golden Boot?

Quality of league my foot, you can ask Arsenal what Porto did to them🤣🤣🤣

Where is Porto now ❓

So we should say that Nottingham forest is better than Arsenal because they beat them in the FA cup. When they were in the Championship.

I remember a league two team beating Leicester city in the EPL in the FA cup.

Koboko99:
No be everything be Cho Cho Cho!

Ivan Toney:
Clubs: Northampton, Wigan, scunthrope, Barnsley, Peterborough United,Newcastle and Brentford.
Total games: 122, total goals: 67
*I used only his stat from Newcastle and Brentford*


Ollie Watkin:
Clubs: Exeter city and Weston-Super-Mare, Brentford and Aston villa.
Total games: 269, Total Goals: 105
*I used only his stats from Brentford and Aston villa*


Dominic Solanke:
Clubs: Vitesse, Liverpool, Bournemouth
Total games: 235, Total goals: 76


Marcus Rashford:
Club: Manchester United
Total games: 266, Total goals:83

Victor Osimhen:
Clubs: Wolfburg, Royal Charleroi, Lille, Napoli
Total games: 166, Total goals: 86

Victor Osimhen has more goals in less number of games than all of them except Ollie Watkins. #prolific

And he’s the only to have scored double digits since 2018 (6 years) playing top flight football. #consistency

Let’s not even talk about National team or his individual awards.

Wake up and stop the cap 🧢

What's the most competitive, fastest, physically taxing and best league in the world ❓

Football ⚽ is about progressive continuity and top quality consistent performances, in the HERE and NOW.

The context of this discussion started from the assertion that none of our players will make the England senior team. And that context is anchored ⚓ on the preferences of Southgate the manager.

We can say conclusively that scoring goals in the EPL is not the same as scoring goals in the Seria A, that's a fact. Seria A will go back to number 4 rating in Europe next season not one Seria A team in the quarter finals of the Champions League.

Solanke was largely a disappointment for a long time, but the last two seasons he has upped his game and improved immensely. In the HERE and NOW Southgate would take him before VO, in addition he can play Wing with quality skills and technique.

Rashford has been consistently outstanding over a time his league goals are all in the EPL. He is tried and tested for England and Southgate. In addition he can play left and right Wings with skill and technique.

Ollie Watkins is now on another level of sharpness he also can play wing with skill and technique. He is number 2 and counting in the EPL with regards to VO over him it's a no contest.

This season VO has not played that many games his team Napoli is languishing and struggling near mid table. When your team is doing well you get accolades when it's doing bad you share in the condemnation.

Last season is not the basis for England senior team selection. Ask Grealish, Raheem, Henderson, it's always here and now not past form.

Ivan Toney is an enigma he has been indicted for illegal betting comes back and in a few games after 8 month's out he is showing his quality. But will Southgate choose VO over him l doubt.

Just checked the squad and I would choose VO before Anthony Gordon but then I would choose Solanke over them both.

quickberry:
One season wonder? You are actually dumb.

You are calling someone who has been scoring double digits goals since 2018/2019 season, a one season wonder? You are drunk

How many times has VO been among the top three highest goal scorers in his career ❓ and how many times has he been among the top 5 goal 🥅 scorers.

2022/23 season is the first time VO in his career has won the golden boot and been the highest goal scorer in a league.

For me the true test of world class quality is maintaining the top level season after season. It's one thing to get to the top another to stay there.

That in itself should be in the context of the quality of the league as well.

Hanibal:
Woah!!
This is a beautiful, beautiful take, so injuries can actually affect a player's playing time... A player can miss several games in a season and still be regarded as doing "exploits" wonderful!!

I hope you'll remember this when you judge Osimhen for not scoring 1 million goals with consistent consecutive alacrity consistency.

I hope you'll remember all these beautiful screenshots when you refer to Osimhen as essentially a "one season Wonder" soon.

When you remember Osimhen has scored only 11 serie A goals this season, I hope you'll remember that he did it in 17 games so far.. because he was *injured* !!!

Somebody essentially claimed that Fikayo Tomori has lost form and is no longer first choice.

I then explained that was completely untrue.

And your response is to bring in VO into the discussion to what purpose when there is no comparison or relevance.

On a lighter note I noticed two Igbo boys scored for Chelsea against Leicester in extra time, Madueke and Chukwuemeka.

Ndidi played for Leicester but got substituted by Conor which seems strange to me, Conor is primarily a CB.

KC was on the bench and did not get to play.

More worrying but not surprising Leeds are now too of the Championship and Leicester play Bristol next. The Championship is very competitive and it's more of a marathon than a sprint.

Leicester should get automotic promotion but it could get tricky.

Hanibal:
One last time.... You actually don't watch football.

If you do you'll know Fikayo Tomori is no longer a guaranteed starter at AC Milan .

And Chris Smalling? How many times has that one gotten into a Roma team sheet this season?

If these players had Nigerian passports you'll call them bench warmers.
But of course, English men do exploits wether on the bench or on the pitch
Anywhere they find themselves.... Na exploit and consistent outstanding qualitative quality.

But of course, you wouldn't know; because you don't watch football, you're not involved in football outside of Wikipedia and a love for England, your "fruits" is proof.

Your shameless bigoted double standard and hypocrisy is astonishing.

Chris Smalling last played for England in 2017 when he was in the EPL , he went to Roma in 2019/20 .

Last season he played 32 games in Seria A and was their most outstanding CB.

Fikayo Tomori has played 20 games this season for AC Milan. You claim I don't watch football and essentially have no Idea. It seems you didn't know that Fikayo suffered a hamstring injury in December last year, Dr 2 KNOW.

He has missed 8 games on account of injury not a loss of form.

Why do you like to tell barefaced Lies.

You have no shame 🙈🙈

quickberry:
How many golden boot has Rashford won in his career?

Osimhen is the current APOTY, has Rashford ever won European player of the year?

Osimhen won AFCON qualifiers golden boot, which one has Rashford won?

You're nothing, but a 🤡

You are comparing European cup to African cup , European player of the year to African player of the year.

Your nothing but a ❓❓❓

Jakumo:
This is a major event that will trigger massive retaliations from the military that will affect every living thing within 10 miles of where that deadly ambush of Nigerian soldiers occurred. I pity the occupants of any villages in that area because they are now on course to witness unbridled brutality when they least expect it.

I don't think the limited capacity NA would be so foolish to engage in unbridled reckless killing of innocent citizens in a scorched earth strategy. Within the Niger Delta.

Do you really think all the militants gave up all their weaponry go and wake up the tiger and find out.

Hanibal:
Omo!
So Solanke, Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkins and Rashford are better strikers than the reigning African footballer of the year?
This is disrespectful not just to Osimhen, but the entire African continent.

As in ... As a coach you would select Solanke ahead of Osimhen? Really?
Even Solanke would not select himself!

Jesus! Does this guy even watch football?
Remind me... Last season's champions League final was between Man city and which team again? And from which league?, the last Europa League final was between Sevilla and which team, from which league?
What about the conference league final?

Insane! Just insane

Let me quote myself;

Do you think an England manager will select proven and tested forward players who have been consistently outstanding over several seasons in the EPL. Against a player who has had one break out season in Seria A.



Let's be specific Gareth Southgate and what's the qualifying attribute proven tested consistently outstanding in the EPL.

You get way too emotive nobody and biased. You may think that Seria A is the best league in Europe but I don't think Southgate thinks so. That's why Tomori and Smalling irrespective of their exploits in Seria A are not getting invited.

There are probably three slots for strikers Kane, Ollie & Ivan. Rashford gets in possibly but not certain because he can play wing.

Maybe 🤔 if VO had played in the EPL over several seasons and been outstanding then he might be in the squad. But knowing Southgate squad selection pattern, he will not get in IMO.

Finally, we are talking about my preferences but making projections about Southgate selection into the England squad.

victornoah:
Who is watching Fulham's match ?

How's Bassey performance ??

Bassey Outstanding as well as Iwobi and if course the iron gate Tosin.

Fulham just flogged Tottenham but of course they would be flogged by Porto.

Danielnino00:
Zuchyblink mentioned "European national team" .. but as per wetin dey do you, you twisted it to "England national team"

Using the generalisation of European football ⚽ amounts to an exercise in noise making without specifics.

To appease your prejudiced mind.

Let me say, most of our players will make the Slovakia and Estonia team, do you agree 🤢

Napoleon55:
it is not about benching Kane,is about whether Osinhen will be able to make the English team which includes the substitutes and the bench.

How about Kane starts,then later Osimhen comes in second half,or when he is injured,
is this not possible as it stands now?

Get things in perspective.

Scoring goals in Seria A is not the same as scoring in the EPL. Seria A is ranked 3 in Europe currently but that rating will be lost . No Seria A team got to the quarter finals of the Champions League. That tells you something.

Do you think an England manager will select proven and tested forward players who have been consistently outstanding over several seasons in the EPL. Against a player who has had one break out season in Seria A.

England no sentiment on current performances do you think IvanToney, Ollie Watkins, Solanke, Rashford, will be dropped for VO.

typicalgamer:
Bro e don pass that level ahhh

Must we wait them to be rejected by countries of their choice before we steal them which level na

Nff is not proactive at all

Why do you think Ademola and Oviemuno after attending U17 trials in London were not selected ❓

Do you know Ejaria has been wanting to play for Nigeria even before England u21. But nobody called his name.

You may agree or disagree. NFF officials are preoccupied with one thing, self interest, what they can get, not the best players.

Youth players are tied to NFF official and their proxy football ⚽ academies. So that possible development/ compensation fees can be paid to them.

Nigerian born and resident players will on account of our dire socio-economic situation ,sign their lives to NFF officials because otherwise they will be dropped.

European players don't understand that language and are not desperate. ln addition they don't need Nigerian youth football ⚽ to boost their careers. Go and see what 16 year old Nwaneri contract is at Arsenal.

The NFF is proactive in looking for selfish deals to create wealth for individual NFF officials.

A esteemed long standing contributor on this thread was justifying why the NFF coaches and officials are entitled to a share in any fees 😕😕

Finally, anybody remember Sone Aluko did exceptional for the SE , but was never recalled. I wonder why ❓

zuchyblink:
Bassey,Awoniyi,Boniface and Osimhen will not get into English team? Take it easy on that substance you are abusing

You are very right not one of them .

lbrichman2:
I know where you're going with the bolded
For now, we will not engage
On another day, we will drag the matter

Before you leap without looking understand where the discussion emanated from.

Zuchyblink said we should stop 🛑 looking at England national team he said rejected players. I would say not selected.

The nonsensical proposition implied here is that if they are not selected for England then they are not good enough for Nigeria. That's downright deranged thinking .

I then said tell me one player in the current SE that will get into England as it stands in my opinion not one.

So objectively respond without getting all emotive and sentimental, if you can.

Samueltemi337:
He Can't dribble kill una there
Una really need to start to dey respect osimhen for this thread




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IUPlyw1JaQ&pp=ygUYb3NpbWhlbiBkcmliYmxpbmcgc2tpbGxz

If there were people who had the boldness to say VO cannot dribble then your video gives credence to that view.

Unless you have a new definition for dribbling.

zuchyblink:
U20 used to be our talent factory before Ladan Bosso happened to us. We now rely on players rejected by European national football teams.

What's wrong with that ❓

None of our players will get into the England national team as it stands, not one.

So what does that make you ❓ should I say intelligent 🤓

Amedino99:
the discussion is about strikers that cannot dribble but as per your usual practice you have managed to turn it to another thing different from what is being discussed.

Your deep seated prejudice has befuddled your thinking 🤔 you have muddied the waters and are incoherent and confused 😕

Below the comments that started the discussion before you jumped without looking.

jihday:
is Mbappe a number 9? Boniface didn’t even start his career as a 9 and drifts wide a lot. Lewa, Haland,Kane are not known for dribbling . Most important attributes of a striker is pace and space

It's implied that dribbling is not needed albeit very ignorantly. Most important attributes according to the misguided and uninformed jihday pace and space.

Dribbling skill creates space for players.

Two world class striker's without pace Lewondoski and Kane in the past Ibrahimovic, but all have dribbling skills and deceptive technical ability.

elyte89:
Haaland Alex isak and dribble are two parallel lines ….Dey don’t even av an idea of aw to dribble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9PA99hsldY?si=xGhGHQwQXN9pzuYy


https://youtube.com/shorts/4rEocNmC-kY?si=ThmmiUQP5r_bbuTR

Kog45:
Do you know this wonder kid

Absolutely not.

I've said this before there are too many Nigerian origin players in professional Football ⚽ academies in England. You simply cannot count them.

I would not call anybody at age 9,wonder kid under any circumstances. There are too many stages to make that kind of statement. In most academies you will not find up to 20% of the boys at 8/9 left in the team by age 15.

jihday:
You people just say anything, how many number 9 can dribble?

Ronaldo
Benzema
Kane
Haaland
IvanToney
Dominic Solanke
Ollie Watkins
Rashford
Alex Isak
J. Bowen
Mitrovic

zicky:
Oga you say people that commit the atrocities are not the problem but people that talk about it are the problem, I dey laugh you. That's even what's wrong with Nigeria, steal kill, bad economy, budget padding. When citizens talk about this I'll deed you want to silent them, call them fascist. Don't talk about it, it happens everywhere. Oga can you boost of 20hrs electricity, pipr borne water, security. Why is the fence to your house that high. Oga you are part of the problem, talk football and leave Nigeria problem

Thank you , 🙏🏿 please do not remain silent .

The biggest problem in Nigeria is silence in the face of corruption, criminality, judicial bastardisation, etc

Goke7:
Guys this bashing of osihmen has got to stop, Yes we all want him to improve but some of us are beginning to take it to the extreme and that's unfair, like Thiery Henry said the fact that his goals won Napoli the serie A title after they last did it with the legend Maradona, that will stick to osihmen for the rest of his career no matter what happens next (in Thiery Henry's words).

If Osihmen was Ghananian they would project him far better than we do, right now the average Ghananain believes Kudus is Africa's best including Ghanaian legends, a player that's playing for a club that may never win epl in the nearest future, abeg let's stop all this osihmen comparison, it's not making sense any longer. This is how we kept saying Yekini has no skills, yet all those who have more skills than him can't outscore his record. The same Kudus has played in both Afcon and the world cup, yet Ghana no reach anywhere, nonsense.

When people don't over hype your favourite player you call it disdain.

Being balanced and objective is now HATE for many people here.

jihday:
is Mbappe a number 9? Boniface didn’t even start his career as a 9 and drifts wide a lot. Lewa, Haland,Kane are not known for dribbling . Most important attributes of a striker is pace and space

You are comparing Haaland and Kane to VO do you think that's reasonable.

Haaland has been offside once this season in the EPL, that in itself tells you something.

Kane has won the golden boot in the EPL how many times ❓And that's with Tottenham that's struggling to get into the top 6 in the EPL for over 5 years and cannot remember when they last won the league.

Kane has gone to Bundesliga and has destroyed it making multiple records in the process. It's crazy 25 games and 30 Goals. He has always been at the top level of the goals scoring table in the EPL for over a decade.

You are comparing a player who had had one break out season in his career 2022/23 to players who have done it consistently year after year.

Do you think 🤔 that's a balanced approach.

ChrisKels:
You guys should stop making excuses for those craps of players born in England

Look at bitter leaf 🌿🍀 soup 🤢 with stale fish .

Why do you have so much dislike, prejudice, ignorant aversion, antipathy and downright acidic hostility towards Nigerian origin people born in the UK.

You just used vitriolic diction to describe a whole set of people in the most condemnatory way. But why it's exactly the same thing as tribalism.

You called all the players c**p, that includes the outstanding Eberechi Eze, this boy is very respectful is a Christian and has overcome by faith.

Several years ago he was invited to the SE to train he did so he was already playing in the Championship. And after that experience he was completely forgotten and host of other players invited to friendlies etc, but not him. When he started getting recognition in the Championship he was suddenly remembered.

Nigeria and the NFF showed no commitment and lack integrity.

I have had several dealings with NFF and I can tell you at the heart ❤️ of all things is self interest bordering on extortion. You may say that's a pack of lies

I think you need help .

yinkeys:
Since 2013 u17 players in Nigeria have been going through bone screening
It even screens out legitimate players with already mature bones I believe

Do you know anybody who studied radiography ❓

What it does do is give a 99% accuracy of when bone Fusion takes place proving that the person cannot be U17.

That deduction is carried out amongst several variables that are not 🚫 so absolute. So for instance a racial origination environment factors such as access to quality health & medical facilities, levels of balanced quality nutrition, absence of trauma ( psychological issues) will have impacts on healthy normal growth.

You would not expect a caucasian youth in the west getting top level nutrition, medical and health care to have same level of bone Fusion. As a youth from a malnourished, deprived socioeconomic environment with poor health care.

I'm sure you have heard of the term delayed growth and stunted growth.

What that means is that MRI cannot tell you the exact date of birth of a person. But it can say ABSOLUTELY is if bone fusion has occured.

Because of those variables you could be 19/20 without complete bone fusion.

Nonetheless, MRI has been a saving grace, it has completely wiped out the crass wide spread blatant and disgraceful age cheating that went on for year's. We now have genuine youngsters not Uncles.

However, there is no MRI required for U20 football ⚽ .

zicky:
You look stressed. Do you feel stressed in your daily life 😂

Sometimes a bit cold ❄️ but never stressed, was in Sunderland last weekend for a premier League international U15 tournament.

In 10 days I'll be in somewhat Sunny Spain for one week ☀️for a football ⚽ tournament. And after that I will be in Nigeria for a few weeks.

Would you call that stressful.

elyte89:
Meanwhile ,nobody asked you this 😏

You don't have to read it if it pains you so much.