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LordReed:

I repeat again every mental ailment is characterized by changes in the brain either structurally or functionally. You are hooked on the structural defects and forgetting the functional one which of course is also physical in nature. Functional defects are like hormonal and chemical imbalance.

If functional defects are like hormonal and chemical imbalances (too much or too little of this substances in the bloodstream), I went on to ask you, do hormones just get released into the bloodstream by their own will or when there's a request/demand for such?

It's a metaphor! They are not actually referring to any type of spirit but merely commenting on the attitudes or behaviour of the athletes. None of which things can be divorced from the physical bodies displaying them.

Language is quite descriptive, as such one would expect its use to be as well. And you just betrayed your assertion @bolded as you just implied that the bodies are but objects of display for something different than themselves. Just like saying the apparels cannot be divorced from the mannequins displaying them. Words are very deceiving sometimes, if not most times.

Indeed, which is why your postulations will remain as fantasies, they remain in the realm of imagination.

Fantasies indeed....

I didn't assume anything. I asked you for a method to determine the veracity of your postulations, you said to examine myself which I have and have given you the conclusion.

More than a method, I've put in your hands a most veritable way to discover. One every adept past and present did allude to although in allegories or sometimes parables. Know thyself!

All thoughts as far as they are in my head are mine, there are no external voices in my head.

That's a false imo but you're entitled to yours for sure. I rather would say I'm responsible for which thoughts hold sway and not entirely responsible for everything that comes up. Genesis 3 did give us a clear reference on that, man had fallen out of a state of Oneness and became like "Us" ( two or more ).

LordReed:

Such a person doesn't exist. Every mental ailment is characterized by changes in the brain either structurally or functionally.

Such a person exist sir, if every mental ailment is characterized (physical attributes) by changes in the brain....shouldn't you ask first what brought about the change/defect? What I deduce from your statement again, is that it must be a physical defect, that's not absolutely correct. There are people with various psychological issues yet with no physical brain impairment.

So spirit is anything you can't physically perceive?

Physically perceived, yes! Spirit is an invisible substance (transcendental-wise), a principle or essence. Consider in athletics, we talk about one athlete being spirited and the other dispirited. Are you able to physically perceive (touch, hold or see with your physical visual sense) this spirit of which we speak?

This doesn't answer the question. It's like me asking you how do we test air quality and your response being we just need to smell it. Merely smelling the air doesn't validate the air quality as there could the presence of toxic gases that have no smell. We must establish methods that help us to give proper contrast if you are seeking to validate the presence of or lack of any specific thing.

This is because the Truth only reveals to the one who seek, it isn't one I can give to you beyond the pointer I provide. Seeking to see the Word with the mortal eyes is but folly. The mind is the ultimate laboratory, going as you will and discover.

If knowing myself is tantamount to knowing god then I can safely say a spirit god does not exist since all I am is a product of physical processes.

You fail to see the Truth because you wrongly assume you're only but the physical being, let me ask you; amongst the voices speaking numerous autonomous thoughts in your head , which one is you? The thoughts in your head, are they all truly yours? (All initiated by you?)

KevinDein:
You forgot shaving off the eyelashes and redrawing them back, really hilarious. I also hate those fake eyebrows that look like butterflies on their faces. What about spending tens of thousands of naira to have someone else's hair on their heads. Yep.

Almost like they hate who they really are and are just trying to recreate themselves all over again.

LordReed:
You were insinuating that such a person's predicament was not physical ie no physical defect right?
( In truth, I was -regarding the fearful man-. My subject in that scenario was meant to be one with no physical impairment to the brain, not from trauma nor congenital issues. I was speaking of an individual whose physical setup would otherwise be certified as normal if physically examined.)

I do not know words are spirits (Yes they are, can you touch your thoughts, can you see your words, I bet not but you sure can do this things when these words become manifest. Consider the phone you use, it first began as an idea which is intangible before it went on to be a finished usable and touchable product. A child that is born is a product of series of thoughts that led to the copulation, conception and birth, growth and even death. Think about this things with an open mind) because such things acquire definition based on who is attempting to explain it. ( Very true that, a wise man once said man reasoning or thinking can only be as great or in depth as his experiences)

Here's what I want, show me a way in which we can conclusively demonstrate either the presence of spirits or the spiritual realm. (This is in constant demonstration around and about us everyday friend, look to nature for your answers but first, look within thyself. For only a man who knows himself knows God )

kehinde1588:
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It only shows that Christianity is weak .

Tomorrow, she will use the same Bible to clean her yansh and she will definitely go scot free but she dares not try that with Islam because she knows there is a level to which such can be tolerated.

Being too tolerant only shows you are very weak and doesn't signify that you love peace. In other word, it shows you are a "mumu"

LordReed:
Never said you were making that point, I was the one making the point.

You said a brain needs to have undergone trauma before the onset of mental illness which is not the case. Explaining what those things I mentioned are does not make the case that trauma is necessary for mental iĺlness.

I am of the opinion that no such thing as spirits or a spiritual realm has been convincingly demonstrated to exist.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! So how come we didn't see anybody on mount Olympus or in the skies hurling bolts?

There is no evidence of any sort of spirit. Mental illness is as far as we know are physical defects in the brain or brain functioning. We never see mental illness in brains functioning within normal parameters.

LordReed:
Mount Olympus was said to be the home of the gods. If indeed there were any gods there, it would be confirmed by scaling its height and finding such a home of the gods but that is not the case. Sango is said to be the wielder of thunder and lightning, our trips into the sky should have revealed a god there hurling bolts but nothing of the sort was found. And on and on it goes till gods continuously retreat into ever shrinking pockets of scientific ignorance.

Trauma to the brain is not the only way physical defects occur. There are congenital birth defects, there are developmental defects, there are hormonal imbalances, etc that explain certain recurring symptoms. If you are going to make the point that not all of the brain's complexity has been understood, therefore spirits explain the unexplained, then you are only making my point for me.

frosbel2:
Bloody lunatics.

Religion is a cancer on this planet !!!!

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! So how come we didn't see anybody on mount Olympus or in the skies hurling bolts?

There is no evidence of any sort of spirit. Mental illness is as far as we know are physical defects in the brain or brain functioning. We never see mental illness in brains functioning within normal parameters.

LordReed:
Just like there was for Zeus and Sango.

jesusjnr:
I can see where you're coming from, thinking i should go and study the scriptures again and again because you think it's weird to open a thread and be going back and forth etc, not whether i am saying the truth or not.

You've shown that what informed your advice is not the things of God or the Spirit which gives life, but those that are of the flesh which profit nothing but death, so your advice is not worth any consideration from me.

Please pray for yourself and the many others as yourself who are driven by the things of the flesh and of the this world, for such a prayer is dead to me.

LordReed:
Against the lack of evidence for a god.

maximunimpact:
its more of RELIGION than GOD, but it kinda complicated because there's no religion with God!

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, my new dear friend, you cant do that, that will be like trying to kill and then get away with murder. You cant try to use "never see God" for both your arguments because then we are having a false equivalence in play and/or in our hands

Watch this, though 1= number and 2=number, it doesnt compute that 1=2. You see kumulus, unfortunately for you, that your "never see God" is a showstopper and wont compute, lol because the "good, beautiful and/or admirable" see God, they dont not see God. Capisce?

MuttleyLaff:

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kumulus, try and remember now, that my comment that you've taken apart, butchered and took out of context was in relation to the MhizVee above comment
Now, kumulus, you will agree with me that, different people truly, have different ideas and views of God, and that different people see God differently. I dont know how you managed to come about "the good, enlightened and beautiful never see God"

MuttleyLaff:
It is a fact and truth that, we don't all, see God, as He is. We see God, as we are, and its true the saying that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

The bad, dark and ugly will never see God as good, beautiful and/or admirable. The cynic, skeptic, scoffer, atheists etcetera, will never see anything good, beautiful and/or admirable in God.

jesusjnr:
Are you a worker, because I'm not, and I'm preaching the gospel of Jesus to those workers of iniquity both inside and outside the church so that they would repent, because no worker of iniquity would make it into heaven.

If that is not good enough for you, then you are entitled to your opinion.

CaveAdullam:
But you agreed with the dictionary meaning of eternal, infinite, mystery and God.

Assuming there was no Bible, we can still discover God from our dictionaries. Lol

Oga DikeDiMighty, if the Bible/Gospel of Christ is a conspiracy theory, the Apostles and early Christians wouldn't have risked their lives for it. The Bible didn't only tell me this, Josephus, Tacitus and other great historians have something to say about this.

Na only baby Christians at this age still dey fear atheistic claims...... LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

What doesn't exist does not have a name, and if GOD is a name given to a supreme being then definitely He exists. Or do you know of anything that doesn't exist but have a name?

Hallelujah, praise the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

Thanks.

God bless.

Adams12345:
you need to persist, faith in God is persistant, their were limitations that is why nothing happens, this year 2019 come and God will break Every limit in your life, something will definately happen.

Kingdollar28:



Don't drag any property with an armed robbers... because they can do anything to escape alive...even if it means killing you...

XxSabrinaxX:
How, Jozzy4, do you recognize design?

Methinks you need to demonstrate some objective evidence for your claim, and since all the objective evidence shows that species evolution through natural selection is a scientific fact you'll need to undo 160 years of global scientific research from multiple scientific disciplines. I think it's as likely we'll discover the world is flat and at the centre of the universe after all.


Languages evolve, just like species. Speakers get isolated from each other and their languages evolve in different directions. Sometimes invasion and migration bring them back to together, which is why we have so many Latin, Norse, and French words in English. Beowulf and the Canterbury Tales were both written in English in England. Yet most English-speaking people wouldn't even recognize them as English, because our language has changed radically in the past millennium. Imagine how much change could happen over tens of 1,000s of years as humanity migrated globally. By the time the Tower of Babel fantasy allegory is supposed to have happened, there had been countless languages for millennia.

Tetehjewels:
In short it is legalized scamming of people by deliberately giving them a false impression when the realities say otherwise. Scam figures in a game of cloak and daggers

Tetehjewels:
Figures are always exaggerated to make it look like America is awesome when its all a rouse to make people like you leave your country and run there just so they can harness what you have to offer for their own benefit.

Subtle brainwashing

TemmyT002:
Na so o
Being successful in a short time is for extremely lucky people.
Normally, you have to grind things out and keep on working hard and never giving up.