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Unfortunately most people that claim to be born again [including their pastors] don't even know what it means to be born again.

@snowwy
My position on tithes is based on sound untwisted biblical facts, try justing your position on tithes without twisting scriptures and adjusting it to suit the greedy desires of the promoters of these mordern day version of tithing which is different from the biblical one that was not even directed to christians. I reteriate that the mordern day tithes being preached today is a monumental fraud and is NOT the will of God for christians as it was arrived at by twisting and adding to God's word.

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It is you that would never be blessed for not falling for a scam, the good lord is blessing the rest of us abundantly even though we don't tithe and we speak against the fraudulent teaching of it.

I just read on the head lines of encomium that Oledepo is building a N250 billion Naira estate planned to be the biggest estate in Africa and all ready his thoroughly brainwashed flock are over reaching themselves to "sow" into this new racket, I wonder how far these con men would go with this racket.

The response of CEC lc members on this thread as really exposed the kind of false, conceited self serving and evil indoctrination they are thoroughly brainwashed with. At this point I can only ask fellow christians to pray for these lost souls, they desperately need help.

@donnie
Like Oyaks is going were God didn't send him and reaping people off just becos of his greed and lust for filthy lucre.

@garyarnold
The book you mentioned is been written by baptist theologians revealing the biblical truth on tithing; when ezactly would it be published and how can we get copies in Nigeria? I would like to buy a good number of copies to distribute to friends and family who are still under this evil yoke of false tithing. I also thing the book is a very good idea as it would help set a lot of people free from bondage even though it could spoil business for the likes of image123 and uncle joe.

This is a good lesson for Oyaks and other "entertainers" to learn. They need to focus less on themselves and more on christ.

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@gary
Abeg help me tell am oh! I have been having this debate with image123 yet he refuses to yield to the clear truth of the scriptures. He would rather stick to the twisted version. I suspect very strongly that like his partner in crime joagbaje, he is benefiting from the illicit tithes proceeds hence his eagerness defend the scam despite the overwhelming evidence against it.

@toba
You are still a baby christian

@unclejoe
I am forced to remind you again that the bible described tithing as weak, useless and unprofitable in the book of Hebrew 7:5-19

@image
Any which way you want to twist it, when God gave instructions concerning tithes to the children of israel[not christians] tithe was strictly to be given from the produce of the land of Israel and the farm animals and NOT their income. And it is quite certain that there were several other sources of monetary income at their time which they were never asked to tithe from. You can't go around twisting and amending the word of God just becos it is convinient for the clergy. We all know as christians that it is a very grievious sin to twist the word of God. Tithing as it is preached and practised today is an assault on the word of God, it is totally different from the biblical tithe which is not even applicable to christians. Of cause trying to justify tithes today based on Abraham's one off unsolicited example is also a fraud cause abraham's tithe was not from his income as preached today and there is no injunction for believers to copy even his one off example.

@Garyarnold
Keep up the great work you are doing on exposing this tithing fraud, millions are being set free from the shackles of tithes they have been placed under by their greedy preachers. But please note that we also need to teach brethen the essence of true christian giving which is based on selfless love for others. Christians should be made to understand that it is our duty to bless the less priviledge amongst us.

@nuella
How much is the gate fee for the night of bliss charade?

Mmmh so the gospel can be panel beated to suit your whims and caprices, no wonder apostle Paul warned us of those who would come to preach another gospel contrary to that of our Lord Jesus christ which about eternal salvation.

The scripture makes it clear that tithing is not relevant to the priesthood of christ as he is not from the tribe of the levitical priest who are the only ones permitted to collect God's tithe. Going by verse 12 of that passage, it implied even Jesus was not qualified to collect tithes how much less the charlatans claiming to represent him today.

@newmumu
Hebrews 7:5-19 clearly states that tithes has been done away with. It also described it as a weak useless and unprofitable practise.

@ogoamaka
I am now a satanist just becos I choose to stand by the truth a reveal a fraud being perpetuated in the name of God by those who claim to serve him? Since when did standing for the truth start qualifying one as a satanist? Or are you just trying to dis-credit me becos I am expose the fraud you and your partners in crime like Oyaks are perpetuating? The fact remains that tithing the way it is preacheed today is unbiblical and is a pure fraud. The onus is on you to prove otherwise.

@newmi
We know your your god whom you serve with your tithes is oyaks, unfortunately he is not recognized by Jesus who views the vagabond as a wolf in sheeps clothing.

What a load of crap All this unintelligible rants just to prove that tithes preaching is not a scam, well sorry the truth is already out people are beginning to see it as the fraud it is.

@Dean55
Thanx for your insightful and objective analysis of the subject matter. I agree wiyh you mostly, only difference is that I believe preachers who twist the word of God for money as exemplified by the way tithes is preached and practised today should not be tolerated at all as they are not only duping believers, they are leading them astray.

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@image123
Any sound scriptural back up for the crap you just posted above?

@nairapower
How tithes should be done is clearly explained in deut 14:22-29 please read it. After reading it you would discover that tithes the way it is defined and practised today is contrary to the scriptures. That aside tithes was an injunction to the children of Israel who were under the law. Christians are not under the law and that is why you would never see any directive for christians to tithe in the new testament.

@newmi
You most certainly have been seriously and gravely deceived go by the sect you attended and the con man you idolize as a supposed man of god.

Mmmh Olaadegbu, I am impressed with your last few posts on NL, perharps the good lord is beginning to reveal himself to you and give you deeper understanding of his word. Well done bro.

PS: I hope you really meant what you posted and it is not just copy and paste.

@poster
If you stick to the biblical definition of tithes as explained in deut 14 you won't be giving yourself headache of how to determine tithes based on man made definitions. Biblically speaking you have NO business tithing from your income or profit.

@nairapower
Are you are christian? If then you should know that true christians are not under any obligation to tithe. But biblical speaking tithes is strictly ten per cent of the produce of the land of Israel.

@manmustmac
I am suprised you have nothing to say about the barage of extremely personal insults your atheist buddy made against Jesoul above.

@poster
Abeg help me tell them oh!

@ogoamaka
Why don't you address the issues raised before arrogantly expressing your delusions here and calling someone a satanist just becos he is not stu.pid enough to fall for the fraudulent tithing scam.

Joagbaje:
@kunleoshob
My life outside nairaland should not be your concern .I am a successful business man. And a giver to the work of God . several friends know me here. If a have a pastoral responsibility or not it shouldnt be your headache. it's has nothing to do with my post . You judge my post by the word of God and learn . What are you afraid of? Either you like it or not , I will say the truth of the bible . Please stop harassing me on Nairaland . Thanks

Judging your posts by the word of God makes it crystal clear that you are a poorly schooled manipulator of the gospel as such there is absolutely nothing to learn from you. That aside several of us can testify on Nairaland that you hardly ever say the truth as far as the bible is concerned. What you do is to manipulate scriptures and quote them out of context.

Calling yourself businessman also falls in line with the fact that you and your mentor Oyaks see the gospel as a business and a means of making money, after all it is a well known fact CEC plc is a business.