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@ogajim
He won't appreciate the card, it's cold hard cash the beggar wants.

Still waiting for reports/ comments on this year's offer7, how much was raised? Which zone/branch raised the highest amount? How many jeeps did opaks get? How are CE members coping with starving themselves for the benefit of one con man? Will they be able to survive with first fruits coming so soon after opak's birthday?

Today is Oyaks birthday, though he is not known to be a member of this forum he has developed a notorious reputation for himself via his confirmed staged miracles and manipulation of the gospel for self enrichment. He has also been reported to have destroyed several lives and bred many criminals who are routinely caught stealing their employers money for the benefit of the con man. Pastor chris is ably represented on this forum as many of his accolytes and muguns frequent this forum in a bid to defend the false and ridiculous doctrines he regurgitates. Annually the highlight of pastor chris birthday is a competition amongst his various branches to see which branch/zone would raise the highest amount of money for this demigod's birthday gift, you should see the way these magas try to out do themselves in giving to the scammer, they levy themselves, tax, steal, defraud, prostitu.te, borrow e.t.c just to out give themselves to this criminal.

Current and former CE members are invited to share their experience concerning this scam popularly called OFFER 7 in CEC plc.

@joagbaje
When will you start comparing confirmed prophets of God like Elisha and Elijah to the charlatans who claim to be annointed today? Besides what people gave these prophets were basics like food to meet their NEEDS and not the kind of gifts being preached today to feed the GREED of preachers soliciting for seeds. As christians we give to meet the needs of those in need wether they are MOGs or not it doesn't make a difference, we just simply give out of the love of christ in us.

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And when did "open heaven" become the bible It is not even a credible source for christian doctrine. Those teachings on "sowing" in open heavens are a glaring and fraudlent manipulation of scriptures designed to meet the greed of the promoters of that document.

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Nairaland has really changed Inesqor

Until RCCG realizes that the gospel of christ is not about spreading a church franchise, building monuments unto themselves and gathering millions to their regular jamborees, they would continue to lead people through the broad way which leads now where. Rccg really needs to stop doing this their empire building and start using their money to do the work of God which is 99.9% charity.

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@nuclearboy
Brilliant summize, absolutely spot on.

@papabrowne
The so called little differences makes all the difference. There is only one true gospel, any other is false.

@newmi
You call yourself an intellectual, yet you are not intelligent enough to know that there is no word like "despicableness" olodo buruku! No be by force to speak big grammer.

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Is joagbaje now ashamed of his church?

@nuclearboy
Whilst the news is really sad and it should be food for thought, I just thought I shd mention that is against forum rules to announce the death of a Nairalander on this forum. This thread might be locked very soon.

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Dat's the problem cos if we are to go by the fruits RCCG is showing, they are pursuing their own personal agenda and not God's. They are just using God's name to lend credence to their business.

@donnie
It is your pastor chris that is not teachable as his cup is already full rubbish and delusions of grandeur. His pockets are also filled with ill gotten wealth. It is you his deluded followers that desperately need to be saved from this agent of the devil.

Joagbaje:
Paul acknowledge the practise of tithing in heberews 7. .
    Hebrews 7:8
8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he[ receiveth them], of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

The chapter talks about the change of order in the priesthood . Melchizedek priesthood brought about the revelation of tithe in the first place. So the world move from Order of Melchizedek to levitical Order and now back to Melchizedek  The tithe collecting order .

Yes tithes was mentioned in hebrew 7 but the writer went on to nullify it in verses 11&12 he also ridicled the sham describing it as a weak useless and unprofitable practise in bverse 18. I wonder wh you keep preaching what the bible describes as useless.

Joagbaje:
If tithing was wrong, Jesus would have condemned it . He condemned observation of sabbath he condemned "an eye fo an eye" and some other issues in the law.Jesus okays tithing (Matt 23:23) ,  If he had come to abolish tithing , he wouldn't have endorsed it.

Jesus acknowledged tithing for the pharisees as part of the la which they were subject to at that time. And it was tithes of agricultural goods not the manipulated 419 self serving version being promoted today.

Joagbaje:
The early apostles didn't need to give special lectures on tithing . It was their lifestyle. We should understand that not everything was said in the epistles. The epistles were not written to complete the bible. The fact that the bible was silent about certain issues didn't mean they were not practised. They wrote about issues affecting the churches.

They didn't write on tithes becos it was not part of the christian teachings handed down to them by christ. We have to remember that most of the epistles in the new testament were written to gentile who could not havve been familiar with the jewish culture of tithes. So it could not have been taken for granted that they should know. Tha aside we know for a fact that the first time that tithing was smuggled into the chrch was in 585AD after the coucil of Macon. Tithing was never a part of the apostolic traditions.

Joagbaje:
You can't have multiple pastors at a given time. You can't be submitted to one pastor and your financial commitment is not done there. A pastor is a spiritual father. One father at a time. Paul says you have only one father.

What do you mean you can't have multiple pastors? Did the bible veven say you should give tithes to pastors   if i remember well the instruction was to give tithes to levites in the old testament and they were in multiples not just one particular levite. Why do you people like twisting God's word like this

Joagbaje:
1 Corinthians 4:15
15 Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

Even Paul was in error by that statement cause our Lord and saviour Jesus christ has already warned against calling religious leaders father.

Joagbaje:
You may read books by many authors, but you should have one pastor that you are submitted to. Your heart and your treasure have to be in one place.

What is the biblcal bases for this hubris above. Where in the bible does it say one must have a pastor who one is submitted to and by extention is entitled to 10% of our income? barawo!!!

Joagbaje:
As often as we are blessed. It depends on individual . Some could be daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly.

Another lie, as far as the bible is concerned, tithing should be done once a year and every third year NOT as often as we are blessed. Please stop adding to scripture to suit your lust for filthy lucre.

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Liar pants on fire.

Tithing as it is preached and extorted today is the biggest instituitionalized fraud in the history of mankind, derived by deliberate and purposeful manipulation of outdated and irrelevant old testament injunctions to the ancient Israelites and mis applied to christianity and is now being used to extort 10% of the income of gullibles. Even the people that tithing was addressed to NEVER tithed of their income.

Scandals, fraud and immorality abound in CEC.

@joagbaje
Kindly remember to quote specific and applicable scripture[if it exists] to support your answers to the question above.

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For the record, tithing is NOT a christian practise. It is a man made doctrine derived from fraudulent manipulation of old testament scriptures not relevant to christianity being used to extort money on a continuos bases from believers.

@HSLbroker
No one is attacking you for doing "God's work" we are not just convinced that RCCG as a church is truely serving God. Also we are also not convinced of what vale the so called holy ghost conference would add to the body of christ.

@pastorAIO
Your "publishing" of American military activities in the last two centuries does not amount to an American invasion. China is also a super power today, which country did they invade?

@pastorAIO
Which country did America invade before becoming the dominant super power in the world today?

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And this "accomodation" that is available at the camp, is it free or attendees have to pay exhorbitantly for it? I would expect a institution inviting us for their jamboree toi at least accomodate and feed us.

@post
As if Tinubu himself is not corruption personified, compared to Tinubu, Obasanjo is a saint.

@pastorAIO
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And how did spain become "moslem"? Was it not through islamic jihad in the 7th to 8th century? It is also on record that the crusaders were a christian response to Jihadist threat when muslims were trying to forcibly force Islam into europe after capturing spain.

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That aside oyaks and his church have little or no credibility and stories of confirmed fraudulent practises abound in his church. So when we hear news like this we know is likely to be true. Such filthy practises is in their nature in CE.

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So can you explain what technonology they used to move 800 ton blocks over vast distances? Obviously there are more questions than answers. The ancients obviously knew something we don't know today and the knowledge was not passed down to us cos they were not capable of comprehending it. Meaning they didn't develope the knowledge. It must have come from an external[extrateresstrial] source.

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@thehomer
Definitely not a typo, maybe you shd google up "temple of jupiter" you might just learn a thing or two.

The extra-terrestrial God theory has a lot of credence even from the bible, however it is not a certainity. I see it more as a mordern way of describing ancient phenomena. But then again the ancients would have been at a loss of words to describe extraterrestrial activities. They certainly wld not have the vocabulary to use and they would describe it has they best understand. There are several monuments that were left by the ancients has evidence of superior technology which even today we can't replicate amongst which are; the great pyramid of Giza; the 1,000,000kg stone block transported and used in the construction of the temple of jupiter; stonehenge and several other super structures that the ancients couldn't possibly have built given their level of technology.

@ogoamaka
You and I know that oyaks is not a genuine man of God and the charlaton is just a phoney and con man combined. It is oyaks that you shd be warning cos the day is coming when God wld visit his anger on him for using his name to defraud people.

Tithes as preached in churches today is the biggest institutionalized fraud in the history of mankind running for about fifteen centuries now since the catholic church decided to manipulate scriptures to raise funds in the year 567AD.