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Evil Brain:
You Nigerians are amazing! You live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, where the people don't even know how much of their money a senator takes home each month. And yet you are all criticizing a man fighting to increase transparency in government.

Wikieaks has exposed countless examples of government and corporate corruption. They showed the world how the US and its allies have repeatedly lied about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They leaked a video showing the American military gunning down innocent civilians including 2 Reuters journalists.

And as a direct result of these activities, they are being hounded out of existence. The site is currently offline because someone (the CIA?) is mounting an illegal DDOS attack on it. Mr. Assange's life has been repeatedly threatened. People are calling for his murder. He has been arrested over highly suspect "sexual misconduct" (not r@pe) charges. His bank account has been suspended, someone even suggested that his son be kidnapped to "get at him". All this despite him not haven broken any laws. The US Pentagon even confirmed that no one has ever been hurt of killed by his organization's activities.

As far as I am concerned, this guy is a hero. And the villain here is clearly the US government which is starting to act more and more like China or North Korea.

I would happily donate money to wikileaks. More grease to their elbow.

thank you sir

Ujujoan:
The guy's not being charged with any violation or abuse of information! Apart from those ludicrous charges, they can't hold him on anything cos technically, he didnt break any laws!

This is clearly intimidation tactis . . . . Hypocrites!

of course. na their way

dayokanu:
WenGER wont be sacked because he stopped Tony Adams from drinking beer,

He stopped David Seaman from fish and chips,

He paid attention to Thierry Henry's diet,

And used machines to gauge performance of Fabregas

At the end of it all he remains trophyless for half a decade and 30yrs without any European trophy.

Is that not enough

if he does win the league this year, do come back to give him props [not that he needs any]. hes one of the few managers who will not be sacked, even if he doesnt win the next 3 prem titles.arsenal are eternally grateful to have him

chic2pimp:
Play with the same plan? . . . . . I guess you did not watch the Inter vs Barca semi Finals first leg @ the san siro last season. Pep and his coaching staff were expecting the same Defensive side that showed up in the Group round matches and they got the shock of their lives. On winning the psychology battle, I firmly believe that is a quarter if not half of the battle won. Do not the understimate the effects of gaining a sychological edge over your opponent. Del Bosque definitely belongs in the top bracket of great coaches, same as Mourinho. However we can't say the same of Pep. On not finding anything outstanding, Is winning the Champions league with two different teams not outstanding enough for you?
Oh I seeyour beef now . Jose Loud mouth, no be so?. Del Bosque and Jose are two different characters and as such are expected to react to things differently. Don't let take away from the Fact that Jose is a Great and by the time he retires probably a Legendary Manager.

aptly written

balo:
Will you lead the revolution?

excellent question

It's depressing when someone who should be using his brain to post constructively decides to talk nonsense all the time. . .
If NAIRALAND is my first port of call each day,what's it to you,sour-milk brain?
Explain your miserable post,you dullard. . .talking like a not-so-smart person won't make you popular around here,you miserable lout.

i guess i struck a nerve. didnt mean to.

kobikwelu:
well said!!
some people here on NL are even going as far as to name him the best rapper alive

it goes to show u that most peeps dont understand what hiphop rap is,
most peeps are enthralled at his viciousness of rap and the fact that he raps fast!!!
pertaining to the "NO LOVE" track, listen to eminem lyrics, it just had to do with him re-inventing himself, comming back better, outdoing the competition, calling other rappers wack ,

if he is good, take a moment and go through his lyrics and then show me his lyrical prowess (use of words, rhyming and creativity with words),  the guy has a low IQ on that level, YEAH!! QUOTE ME


ASK WHY ILLMATIC BY NAS IS STILL CLASSIFIED AS THE BEST HIPHOPRAP ALBUM EVER ITS HIS CREATIVITY OF WORDS MESHED INTO HIS PERSPECTIVE AT THAT TIME, (as far back as then)
most of his raps were not fast paced, or danceable or commercial, JUST PURE LYRICAL PROWESS ALA INGENUITY,

and then people are comming here to tell me that EMINEM is the best rapper alive, 
THATS AN INSULT!!!


someone also alluded to the fact that eminem killed drake on forever remix!!!!

DRAKES RAP ON THAT SONG WAS BEYOND REPROACH!!!!
THE DUDE WAS DROPPING PUNCHLINES EVERY 2 BARS!!!
what did eminem offer to that track, except fast paced ordinary rap

its just buttresses my point on the way people listen to rap, (based on vitrol and less on quality)

its because of peeps in this thread and their respective artists that Nas once declared hip hop as dead. want to listen to true hip hop, cop nas and damian marley's album. fire

pro01:
Personally I really don't give a bleep about the ROOTS, too dorky for me. But they have been recognized for their work; remember they won a grammy in 2002 for best rap song or so. . .edging out Puffy/R.Kelly's 'Satisfy You' collabo, and making Puffy to angrily quit the grammy venue along with his then handbag - J.Lo. Remember?

you may not but then again no one said true artistry had to be a popularity contest. they didnt win a grammy in2002, but they did one win for a collabo with erykah badu last year. my point though is, they should be recognised more for their consistency, artistry, vision, adaptability and class. when jay z needed to do a live session in unplugged who did he go to? see below

Grammy Awards

* 1999: Won for Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group for "You Got Me" (featuring Erykah Badu and Eve)
* 2002: Nominated for Best Rap Album for Phrenology
* 2004: Nominated for Best Urban/Alternative Performance for "Star"
* 2004: Nominated for Best Rap Performance By a Duo/Group for "Don't Say Nuthin'"
* 2007: Nominated for Best Rap Album for Game Theory
* 2007: Nominated for Best Rap Performance By a Duo/Group for "Don't Feel Right"
* 2011: Nominated for Best Rap Album for How I Got Over

kobikwelu:
when peeps like @jay-z, @kanyewest @nas @lupefiasc, @talibkweli @common rap,

they give u assignment, u go home decipher their rap and then digest,
@kanyewest power track made peeps to think he was a freemason/illuminati member

how SICK is that

it shows artistry,

my broda i tire o. i saw the roots live in london, 05. they are amazing. how many hip hop artists can jam live successfully, with live instrumentals. how many? nas is a visionary

my question is, WHEN WILL THE ROOTS BE RECOGNIZED FOR MORE THAN 16 YEARS OF TOP QUALITY HIP HOP. WHEN?

zibe:
Fela, as a person, was not nominated. Its the show on broadway that was nominated. That's right, fela's musical has been showing on broadway so the musical was nominated for next year's grammy awards.

thanks for the clarification

Danjuma04:
Grammy awards ,

Africans no dey eva dey

bros there is an african/world music section there. go to the website for moe details. african music doesnt dominate world charts, hence why they arent mentioned in the main categories. doesnt mean the quality is bad.
[quote author=L. KRavitz link=topic=560822.msg7261425#msg7261425 date=1291326223]still waiting for eedris abdulkarims gramee maybe by year 2078 ;d[/quote]funniest stuff i heard today. thanks bro

ifyalways:
My best of all times are:
Keeping Faith.
Living in bondage.
Vuga.
Letters to a stranger.
Stronger than pain.

i agree. i thoroughly enjoyed it.

Firebomb:
@eldee: In the Grammy description for each category,it says Song Of The Year(SOTY) is a record that was released the previous year or during the eligibility period of songs to be nominated by the Grammy academy and has carved a niche for itself by being known by 80% of the music lovers and was enormously successful.It is presented to the Songwriters and not to the performers.
The only difference that exists between SOTY and Record Of The Year(ROTY) is the fact,ROTY is a song or track that is being remembered in the future as the hit of a particular year.It is presented to The songwriter,artist,producer and engineer.
Album Of The Year(AOTY) on the other hand is the paramount award at the Grammy awards, Awarded to all who participated in the production of the album. This award has being won once by a hip hop artist,in 2004 by Outcast for their album "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below".

true say. very rarely will a hip hop album win it.

dayokanu:
1) Is it the job of a coach to make profit or to win trophies?  How do you assess coaches who are not allowed to make financial decisions? Most clubs dont allow coaches to make financial decisions

2) Which club does not do this? And since when did this become a yardstick for measuring coaches?

Lyon coach bought Essien, Mamadou Diarra, Florent Malouda etc for cheap and sold them for millions.
Bayern bought Muller, Schweinsteiger for how much? FREE Now tell me what their market value is?
How much did manure buy CR7 before selling him for 94m, How much did they buy Beckham before selling him.
We can also say Tottenhams coach is great because he sold Berbatov for 30m.
Milan bought Kaka for 8 milla and Sold him for 70m

What is beautiful about a football that doesnt win? If every coach neglects the duty of winning then every team can start passing the ball around and NEVER win

And this method has produced which quality player?  Ronaldinho drinks beer , Rooney I heard even smokes, CR7 clubs and parties they dont use machines for training and they are all better than ANYTHING wenGAY has produced in his laboratory?

Has the Sport science produced Quality players? NO, Has the sport science produced trophies? NO So whats the use of the silly science when it hasnt produced any result?.

How has his Sport science helped Arturo Lupoli, Jeremy Aliadiere, Justin hoyte, Owusu Abeyie etc who grew up in wenGERS lab and are now division 2 materials?

the short answer is, IT IS WELL

StarBoard:
It's depressing to read such a dumb comment first thing in the morning.
This is the height of naiveity.I won't even bother to think about the post,let alone respond.

its even more depressing that instead of thanking God for granting you another day, NAIRALAND is the first point of call when u wake up .i laugh in swahili

ifyalways:
Are u totally talentless or just a no-hoper?
What do u understand by criticism?I suggest u type with either a dictonary beside u or make "google search" your homepage.

i never insulted u oh. not even once? and i wont.

hes great in that

1. throughout his stay in arsenal hes always made a profit

2. the sale of anelka from 500k to 23 mill, as well as other unknown stars to worldwide names is commendable, notably, henry, pires, anelka, viera

3. the beautiful football they play in the UK

sports science in that, prior to when he came in 1996 players like tony adams used to eat fish and chips, and drink beer. all that stopped immediately. his attention to detail, diet, using machines to gauge performance etc etc. it was unprecedented in england when he arrived from J league

AjanleKoko:
^^
Bro,
I don't hate Mourinho, you seem to be trying to sell him to me. We know his strengths. I've talked about that, and his weaknesses as well, and what might eventually be his undoing.

no wahala bros

dayokanu:
Pls can you explain what wenGErs name is doing in that place?

in terms of titles no, in terms of sports science, his overall contribution to football is invaluable. for me he deserves to be there. hes a pioneer

AjanleKoko:
I think you didn't get my point. I said, in previous posts, that Mourinho was a good coach. But genius? I'd say he is genius at being a man-manager. Tactically, a lot of those chaps you mentioned are better than he is. He's no genius when it comes to tactics. After all, he learned from some of those chaps, but his man-management ability gave him the edge over them on some occasions. That's really where I give it to him.

Also on the psychological mind-games. Remember, that has been more pronounced during his time at England, more than anywhere else, primarily due to the sensationalist nature of English media. I didn't see that level of adulation in Italy, and don't expect to see that in Spain either.

bros when u win that many titles in such a short managerial career u cease to be good. hes won league titles in 3 countries, vying for the 4th. he qualifies to be a great manager, no? well no one ever said u had to be an all round genius na? was muhammad ali the best puncher in his time? no. he used mental skills as well to weaken his opponents and then went in for the kill. so he wasnt the best boxer per se but the overall package he was. not being the best tactician isnt such a flaw when u can motivate your players 95% of the time to DIE ON THE PITCH FOR YOU. better than any tactics i have ever seen. u wont see it in italy cos he took over a winning team that had won the last 4 scudetto before he arrived [compared to chelsea who hadnt won the league in 30 yrs plus]. thats the difference.

plus, inter was the team no one could coach. they tried everyone, the jigsaw didnt fit. until he came. ask sneider what mourinho did to him, or how he mentally psyched drogba to stay[when drogs dey fear say schevchenko go collect shirt]

mourinho calmly told him in a nigerian accent, NOTHING DEY HAPPEN. , and nothing did.

ifyalways:
Omo shld think of doing something abt her arms.Her tummy looks good.Genny is just
BTWN,See dem both having a good laugh while peeps here on nld are hurting their fingers typing shiiit over and about them.

no be u criticise am nau? and typed shiiiit as u claim other people do. women !

[quote author=Tink_sh link=topic=559516.msg7248836#msg7248836 date=1291165998]What statement? The submission bit? We all know that but i was pointing out that some guys are saying 'the bible says so' and the bible actually says what i wrote. I said both parties have a responsibility as they do to each other.[/quote]the bible says both, and they are not mutually exclusive. woman submit, man love as Christ loved the church. not woman submit IF man loves as Christ loved the church, or man love IF woman submits. one has to do it regardless[both sexes]. that was my point. hope clarity was provided

AjanleKoko:
Sure.
Tactically, he seems to play with basically the same plan, defensively, and counter-attacking, and his teams always have shown a more physical approach to the game. I think he has won more of psychological rather than tactical battles, especially as opposition coaches have been purists who underrated him. I believe he works more on the physical and mental strength of his players, something a lot of coaches seem to neglect.

Also, I am not sure I can point to anything outstanding he has done in the 20 years I have been watching competitive football at club level, compared with some other coaches we've seen. After all, Del Bosque won the CL twice, and has now won the World Cup. He should be the reference point for coaching, if there is any such thing, no?

Yes there's this matter of an unbeaten run in league matches. That's really good, but I am sure he's not the only coach who has an unbeaten record, possibly he's the only coach that talks about it.

Just my simpleton opinion. But time will tell. I did say that he's a good coach, and does a decent job, but the rest is more of psychology and hype.

na so e easy to win psychological mind games? u have lived in nigeria before, as well as diaspora i imagine. if you knew how hard it was to motivate rich spoiled 'i dont need you' brats you will know hes doing a hell of a good job.point made on del bosque and i fully agree, but pray tell must there be only one reference point? there is enough space in the sky for stars to shine. broaden your horizon. delbosque, mourinho, ferguson, wenger, hitzfelt,capello are all great coaches [apologies to any i left, not intended].hes a talker like kanye west, and yeah like kanye he DELIVERS. i hope i will alter your opinion but if i dont, then nothing spoil bros. we all can still get along despite differing views. one

[quote author=Tink_sh link=topic=559516.msg7248618#msg7248618 date=1291160619]I love that some guys here are using the bible to defend their hunger for dominance! NOT!!! Check your bible guys. No where does it say you can hit a women or be a dictator to her. Both parties have a responsibility within a marriage. It says 'love you rwife as Jesus loves the church' Does that sound like a dictatorship?? I dont believe so. The kind of man that hits a women to control her is too weak to get it other ways. Would love to see the same man take on someone his own weight and size.[/quote]u didnt finish the statement. one sided mate

MShittu:
I think that no matter how much Lagos' infrastructure is improved, the sheer number of people in Lagos will inevitably cause some infrastructural problems. Because of this, I think that during all those investment expositions and stuff that Lagos does, Lagos should also dedicate a small amount of time to advertising its neighbor, Ogun, as to create economic opportunities in Ogun and allow some Lagosians to leave Lagos and go to Ogun instead.

wise words bro

AjanleKoko:
Mourinho is a good coach. A great man-manager, but tactically not a great coach. He just knows how to instill strong work ethics and ambition in big teams, which is really good, and also provided he has money to bring in the type of players he likes. I also think he's an excellent opposition scout; he knows how to seek out, identify, and exploit his opponents' weaknesses.

Tactically I think he's nothing special.
His major failing is his attention-seeking nature, which tends to ultimately undo his good intentions.
Put him against a team with deep tradition, plus a generation of geniuses, and he flops.

na so e easy to motivate millionaires? secondly na yam or na cassava to win CL with 2 different clubs? na beans?

MzDarkSkin:
@Rasput. listen rebuttals or no that woman was beat. denial is the main indicator that a woman is getting knocked upside the head and is intimidated! Tina Turner would have black eyes, swollen lip and a cracked nostril and STILL swear Ike didn't hit her.

true, but when she finally had enough she used this negative experience and turned it into a positive one. its really a shame what women have to go through in the arms of wife beaters

no

ladi02:
LOL at all the anti-Ribadu. . . .

Its unfortunate that all the guys that have experience have either only gained experience in being corrupt than in fixing Nigeria. You see someone that created an organisation (EFCC) that is widely feared and yet you prefer some thieves, so 2years from now you all come to Nairaland and continue your usual cries of how bad Nigeria is

You all better wake up and realise that what we need is not a past Governor or past Senator to fix Nigeria - they are all corrupted already!

And for those that feel that OBJ is using Ribadu, i ask you is GEJ = OBJ 3rd term?

Instead of looking for someone to put OBJ (old man) on trial, why not focus on the future of our country.

finally, a creative brain who is not only educated but sees things outside the box. well done. focus on the real issues peeps, which is the future of our country. is it the senator earning 200 million naira a year that will solve our problems? or the governor who's looting lucre? these guys are as far away from the populace as osama is from visiting america.

sayso:
all of a sudden,this man is now so important to this country.NR you do not have the quality to rule this country.chasing some and leaving some criminals is definitely not the quality of a good Nigerian leader.All we have now are just not good enough including you.

and who is good enough bros? i hate criticism without alternative solutions

Blazay:
What a noisy hornbill.
This man needs to just sharrrap and focus on what he has to offer Nigeria.


Sorry, dude.
The Nigerian youths or otherwise, do not get to vote-in their choices.

Politics in Nigeria is 'selection by back-door concensus'. Scratch my back, I scratch your nyansh.

no u need to sharrap

Kenyata:
@Sayso,

God bless you for that comment! I'm glad we are in the same boat. Obasanjo used Ribadu to selectively punish his political enemies. He was just a stooge. No more, no less. I'm yet to find who I can entrust my future and that of my children with. Some people have the blueprint of how to govern this country progressively. Definitely, Ribadu is not one of them.

yes same boat leading you both to hopelessness. ndo, pele, sorry

[quote author=Mrs. Eve link=topic=555321.msg7204414#msg7204414 date=1290552203]Men are so pathetic, what do we need them for? Arrrgggggh![/quote]. for mr adam's services