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Martinez39:
Hahahahaha. I expected more rude remarks, shaming, and insults but you tried. Give your self a round of applause.

@Ladycewhy, since you have taken the discussion away from reasoning into shaming and throwing rude remarks, I end our fruitless discussion.

you have been ending it since your very first comment, but for some reason you just cant help it,lol

Martinez39:
Patriarchy doesn't necessarily mean misogyny or unfair treatment of women anymore than matriarchy wouldn't necessarily mean misandry and unfair treatment of men. The cultural settings I highlighted was division of labour at it's finest. As long both men and women had responsibilities, there was no unfair treatment and whosoever enforced these responsibilities is irrelevant. It still wouldn't change the four points I gave.

Women are already empowered. They already have rights and opportunities as men. If that is not enough for you, you are on your own. So you think women need divorce laws and child support laws to be empowered? You are indirectly admitting that women need to somehow extract a man's resources to be empowered. You have got to be kidding me. Your agenda to bring over the misandric injustices we see in the divorce courts of developed countries will not work. Women are already empowered and are not oppressed. Their destinies are their own hands. Let them go and hustle. So this is what you are all about. By the way, no one is maltreating widows.

Funny how you think setting up divorce laws and child support laws are empowering. I knew, and I said, that all these women empowerment talks are ridiculous garbages and romancing of nonexistent oppression of women. Also, women empowerment invariably has ulterior motives. The issues of widow maltreatment and girl child inheritance are issues that are behind us except in few societies like Islamic societies.

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You are missing the point. You claimed women are taking responsibilities and men ought to solely provide. My argument was that men don't owe women a dime and it is not incumbent on men to provide.

Lol. Women are usually guilty of not keeping up to this. Go figure! Even feminists run to comfort and support the idea that men are to provide when sh!t hit the fan and most women, even feminists, still practice "my money is my money, your money is our money". The scenerios you are crying over are nonexistent. Given all these privileges and hypocrisy, women stand more to lose and men stand to gain more if what you wrote is to be enacted.

Who would you rather have in your life, someone that brings sex or someone that brings money? Food for thought.

what a load of delusion grandeur, lol do you know how many women are kicked out every day of their marital homes everyday? Go to welfare and see pending cases, do you know how many families still don't believe in girl child inheritance my tribe for one still does it, do you know how many widows still suffer maltreatment.If you call providing equal support for your kids as injustice it shows just how much of a misguided incel you truly are lol,no wonder we have so many deadbeat dads in Nigeria.



Women are no longer caged like it was in the old days where leaving your marriage was a taboo and a dishonour to your family name but we are not where we have to be yet. Many of the things i mentioned are still very much in the Nigerian society and this is what feminism should be chasing.

And by the way ,you are not in the position to tell women if they are empowered enough,i feel you feel threatened or something to think that status quo is OK like this,lol.

Ryan03:
base in this post, I'll like to ask, if the man provides for himself and the woman does same, who provide for the kids? Who do the chores?

lol good question.

Eyeness:
Martinez39 is a redpiller and an incel. Arguing with him will only be to your demerit as he will bring you to his level and beat you with experience.

lol, you mean the regurgitated lines he keeps spewing ,lol. I dont even have time for his antics ,i spotted the anger in his life with his first comment just knew something was wrong with him now that you have pointed out that his is an incel i guess his goons he mentioned are too. Lol my instincts were right afterall ,such a wounded lion.lol

Ryan03:
wow! I give it to you baby girl, you are good. Pocohantas, I've found a new crush

lol, i am flattered.

henryobinna:
where are you getting your facts from?

I think in reality it's contrary to what you posit here.

Feminism actually is towards the opposite of what you're saying here if my memory of feminism serves me right.


From my understanding of the whole movement on feminism and other social justice movements is that their sole aim is to emasculate men.

It doesn't matter what role men decide to take up. Long as it's not a role that puts the man where he's decider of his actions.

Lol, really?, thats a new one, atleast not here in Nigeria

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Agreed. Women should start paying us alimony after divorce. Wonderful.

lol ,you seem to be very thirsty for my reply

Martinez39:
Lol. I never said men made women do such. Lies and misrepresentation are hallmark of those whose arguments lack substance. Men and women had roles that were accepted. Both genders had responsibilities which if they didn't keep they faced certain consequences . A man who could provide could hardly get married while a woman that could play these roles was shunned. Don't act like women are the only ones with some burden placed on them by men.

You arguments presupposes that men are manipulative and controlling because they have money. No woman, even feminists, would pay part of the bills and do the chores alone. You are living in an alternate universe. You lie when you say women pay part of the bills and do the chores alone. In fact, it happens that women are provided for and they might don't do the chores for whatever reason (either because "it's too stressful looking after the kids", "she is not his slave and he should get a house help" etc). Most women, even feminists, run to provider men for marriage and bills, so i don't know what you are talking about.

Some of what you are saying are detached from reality. Women are the ones that think that being a career woman is more prestigious than being a housewife, women thought this up themselves. Women also taught that they are equal to men. Even at that, men still have it thrown at them that are supposed to provide and no one baits an eye a woman marries a provider male even if she is a feminist. Feminists are hypocrites and the problems you are ranting about are nonexistent. Women are not taking double responsibilities. You are under a misapprehension.

Women are already empowered. They have rights and opportunities. Nothing is stopping them from making money so all these talks of women empowerment is crazy and unwarranted.

the bodled , consequences enforced by who made by who?lol. Let me answer that the patraichy run society.

Women will be fully empowered when the laws of divorce are reviewed ,child support is in place , and traditions relating to girl child inheritance ,child marriage , widow maltreatment etc are scrapped.


How Do I Understand/satisfy My Husband?

This particular thread is still in front page ,but you will likely avoid it. Many Nigerian women share bills or even take up full responsibility and that is a fact. But the question here is have men taken up the biological responsibilty ? No. A domesticated man is seen as not manly.

If i go to work ,you go to work, we pay equal bills ,you should be ready to bath the children ,and do other things.

The second bolded says a typical male nairalander that cares to sing like a bird at any time "what do women bring to the table". Lol

Ladyhippolyta88:
If only I could know who I am talking to



Do we even have workable divorce laws to begin with
That need to be reviewed other than 5000 monthly allowance for the kids.

lol,this is what i was saying when i said feminism was chasing shadows instead of using the empowerment for liberation.hopefully we will get there.

emmaodet:
If humans are Android Apps downloadable on phones, women apps would have been deleted along time ago because it will be virtually useless and a burden.
Now let us observe the male app from centuries ago up till now, if you are regularly updating your app to add latest features we will something like this for men -
Upgrading from staying in your family house to one room face you i slap you, to flat to having your own building, add car to the modern request, well furnished apartment and all this while adding more values and values to yourself so as to make your user (woman) more comfortable.
Now let us look the woman app from our grandmother era - cooking, house chores, respect, faithful, sexual satisfaction, low budget and maintenance etc
Imagine updating your woman app and what you are left with despite monthly subscription - No more faithfulness, no more respect, house chores and cooking out, very very high maintenance app to the user.
Then you start wondering if the app is getting better or worse and you don't really see a reason for having such a app on your phone again.
That is what is happening now for the rise of mgtow and guys aviiding marriage because the women app is becoming useless for every updating and upgrading they go through

change your circle, there are women out there way above your tax bracket ,view through the window not the peep hole in your wall. Lol not be only app na software.lol .

And no one is forcing you to marry, last time i checked it is legal to drill asses in some countries and there are many closet people drilling asses here to, you do that and let those who are ready do the needful marry after all many are still getting married every Saturday.

Dimples0303:
To each his own. I put a question mark there because like I said I don't understand your point.
I asked questions (?) I was trying to understand your issues and I still don't get it. In breath you say feminism is needed for xyz and in the same breath you say its chasing shadows.

I'm done sis.. I'm sorry if I stressed you out in anyway. Take care

Sorry i dont have issues ,if you do,that is your problem and maybe the stress part is your reality ,seems you like cooking up things in your head alot .

If you dont understand ,its OK some days the memory can be slow like that atleast some other persons did,so i can understand, read my other replies ,it might give you insight.

Martinez39:
Don't mind all these women. They think they are suffering or victims of some kind. They think they are at a disadvantage. Women wanted equality (in rights and opportunities) and the freedom of not being restricted by any gender role. Now have all these and they are still complaining. They think it is sexist for men to define gender roles but it isn't sexist when they run their mouths on how men are supposed to provide and how providing makes a man a man. They want equality but not responsibility and accountability. Op wants men to provide and women to be care takers. Funny enough the care taker role would just be to look after the children. Nothing additional, like that of women of the past, to truly recompense for the money spent by the man on his household.

i think you have low understanding ,there is no where i said what you just said,or is my English that hard, the clamour here is for men to be more domesticated, if you work ,he works ,he should not come home to lift his feet up. I hope you get the picture now?

Ladyhippolyta88:
Preach on.
Life nor be competition with anybody.

I think its time for divorce settlement to be reviewed , dont you think? If we go we should go in we must go all in.

Martinez39:
I never said women should be controlled by "rules and instructions" from their husbands. I only typed that if men are supposed to provide because it is how men did it in the past then women must become women of the past. If you think women should not be like women of the past then men should not be like men of the past.

you describe what men of the past made women do ,in your words

Women of the past were more useful to their husbands: they gave birth, took care of the children, accepted the man was the head of the house, listened to their husbands' commands and rules (the husband's authority was final), consistently and without fail did the chores of cooking, cleaning, and tidying, respected their husbands, gave sex whenever the man wanted etc. all these in return for the man being the provider.

I never said woman today should be like women of the past ,heck i wouldn't want to live the life my grandma lived,i am saying this for women to wake up, women empowerment is supposed to liberate women from the manipulation and control men have attached to money, it is not for women to use it as a bargaining tool to earn respect. Many women have made to think they can only be respected and have a seat at the table and no longer be seen a an enslaved wife if she joins the man to offset the bill while still maintaining the other roles without the man having to help out . The is where women keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Dimples0303:
Sis... I'm a woman. I just have an open mind and I like to reason with reasonable people. If you don't understand what he was putting across to you then I understood him and I agreed with him.

but you failed to understand my point and started making assumptions in your head from your closed mind i guess.

Ladyhippolyta88:
It may be a dead end to you.
But money is power .
To have power you need money and humans not just women love that.
Who plays the piper dictates the tune that is why some men are intimidated by financially capable women.

I see your point. Thanks for sharing

Exactly, empowerment should be for liberation from control for ones self not to prove a point.

@bolded,exactly, empower yourself as a woman for yourself alone to be able to have a ground to stand on.

Dimples0303:
I guess we're on the same page! #teamredpill

Women don't submit and men put your wallets back in your pocket and let's keep it moving

oh, now i know ,una nor dey tire or deal hide under female monikers? Lol i know one currently running around like that too.

Dimples0303:
I'm confused then... So feminism is needed. What's the point of your op then.. You don't want to work and clean so you will opt for cleaning?

I'm confused by your thread sis... Modern or old feminism is still needed? Your problem is who pays the bills and foots the bills on a night out? Those things have nothing to do with feminism, those are choices made in a relationship.

If you work hard and your man doesn't appreciate your efforts then drop him and find a better one...

I don't know...

Modern feminism is chasing shadows is what the thread is about. Which is why i used equity and equality differently. The agenda was supposed to create a support system for women but not it has been trivialised into something else. Old feminism was all about liberating women, women rights , girl child rights and so on.

I never in my comment said i dont want to work, i don't know where you cooked that one from,maybe you can point out where i said that cos this is the third time you are saying it, but you are no the only one who has read my post ,but you seem to be the only one with that understanding.

Ladyhippolyta88:
You misunderstood me. I never said anything on sharing a bill with a man being unjust. What I meant was that women before feminism women were treated unfairly hence why it was a power tussle to challenge such kind of treatment.
You misunderstood me there.

And I agree with this your post. I don't think anybody should make money to drag with a man or woman, but make money to be self sufficient for yourself and whatever afvantage comes with it.
I believe that in marriage the couple is interdependent of each other not independent from each other.

Exactly what the women empowerment movement was all about, to create a support system for women be self sufficient and not be controlled by "rules and instructions " from their husbands according to Martinez39 . But seems women now think the only way to earn respect is to offset the bill so they can share in the power ,which i think its a dead end .

Dimples0303:
I think people like op, who wants the freedom without the financial responsibility are the ones making a joke of feminism and that's why you and many men are confused.

I agree with you 100, that a man is not responsible for providing for an able-bodied woman like himself. My nephews and sons will never have to deal with that because women have bought their freedom as far as I am concerned.

I will not be raising boys who are burden by another woman, and I will not raise girls who are told their only use is to cook and pop babies.

We are a new generation and we need to let go of our parents way and create a new way for ourselves and our children's children might change everything back or do it a completely different way.

Women have bought their freedom from where? Lol . Definitely not in Nigeria. Things might not be same as they were for our mother now but until the laws regarding divorce are reviewed, widows are better protected, child education is equal across the country, i must say ,what you said is half truth cos those are the real issues feminism should be tackling .

Ladyhippolyta88:
They are not different feminism is feminism.
The times change so the need change in some countries they are still fighting for basic rights for women while in others they have advanced.
Abi we should still be fighting for women voting and leaving the home since we mustbbe in tune to the feminism of vefore.
Just like any movement feminism is diverse.
@bold, feminism has always been a power tussle against an unjust society which some men have taken advantage of for years. From the first wave or rise of feminism it has been a power tussle ir challenge against the status quo.

Exactly ,but how is not sharing a bill with a man unjust? We have left the real thing to be chasing shadows. And i for one think there need for reorientation. There is still a lot to be done in this part of the world ,women are still thrown out of their homes with kids without proper support,widows are still dealing with alot from inlaws ,there is still forced marriage for underaged children ,these are the things i want to hear not how you should make money so you can drag power with a man in the house when the power is supposed to be used to empower you as a woman yet you are using it to relieve his own financial load

Ladyhippolyta88:
Sitting down and waiting for a man to feed you is notba natural order but what society tells you so put your hand to good use and fend for yourself in this modern world everybody should make money because you can not know tomorrow Marry a man you can talk to or share your ideology and train your sons into men that can be talked to and teach them against gender stereotyping so that they can help their wives As society evolves things evolve or do you expect feminist of today to still be clamouring for the riggt to vote when women have already been granted that so the issues change as time goes on. It is not power standing some men are just adamant to change so they read it as such

This one nor be modern feminist cause am actually feminist have been trying to get rid of the gender stereotyping as far as chores are concerned because if women work they need to be assisted domestically but when society raises men to still think that is solely a woman's job in the 21st century things like this are bound to occur. When we raise men to learn how to do those things they won't see it as a problem to offer a helping hand.
But if we keep shut and ladies fail to talk to their husbands they will continue to walk double time and be less appreciated because they failed to act against it. Feminism is not the cause of that society's refusal to change and find a balance is the cause of that.

you have made salient points however i want to say feminism and modern day feminism are two different things ,which is why i said there is a difference between equity which the old feminism was geared towards and gave birth to women rights to vote and all but modern day feminism is geared more towards "out doing" . I would still prefer the agenda of the old feminism of girl child rights and equal opportunity which is why both of us were even allowed to go to school and even comment on this forum.I am in no way undermining the things feminism has fought for and how it has affected the life of the girl child.

My point here is many ladies has misunderstood the main aim and see it as a tool for power tussle ,women empowerment is not to relieve men of their duties but to provide a support system for women .


And you are very right, women need to teach their sons better and stop leaving them to find their paths while hovering like a hawk over their daughters cos it turns out a baldy raised man will not be the nightmare of a well brought up lady.

Martinez39:
I am not angry. The provider talk is nonsense. Men don't owe women a dime. I am tired of women running their mouth on how it is incumbent on men to provide because men of the past did the same. The same women would never be like women of the past yet they want men of be men of the past.

1) It's not written anyway that men are supposed to provide for women's needs.

2) Men don't owe women their money. If women need money, let them go and find work.

3) Men have the right to withhold their cash. It is no crime or sin and it is their right.

4) It is not a crime or sin if a woman is expected to provide. Prove me wrong using sound reasoning instead of the usual rhetoric or shaming. You all what equality, you shall then put your money where your mouths are.

I don't blame you or other women, I blame the weak simping men who let women get away with double standards. Either you want equality or not. Women can't claim equality if they chicken out when sh!t hit the fan and then start dishing out the usual rigmarole of how it's incumbent on men to provide blah blah blah blah blah blah.

I rest my case on this thread. Good day.

which is why i said you need to comprehend and stop ranting ,you just confirmed my assertion that you are frustrated about something and going all out like a wounded lion. All you did was regurgitate the same thing.

I am not here to go back and forth with you in whatever world you have created for yourself, if you want to keep regurgitating ,i will leave you to it and respond to people who are more on the side of logic to allow for an engaging conversation.


But let me just say this, there are many unwritten rules of society, but you wouldn't know that now would you? now i am not against women making their own money ,infact i encourage it,but if a woman must share financial burden ,the man must also share from other forms of house chores its that simple,atleast western men dont have a problem with that .


How Do I Understand/satisfy My Husband?

I saw this thread this morning and it dawned on me that the self esteem of men is only tied to being able to provide, they see it as a tool for control and manipulation instead of for fulfilment and opportunity. Take this away from a man and they feel worthless and their self esteem flies out the window.which is why women need financial freedom not so they can be equal to men but to be free from the control and manipulation of men. Its not so you can help him offload his financial responsiblity as a woman but to empower yourself. Hence "women empowerment".


In this current century ,women still give birth and take care of homes and their children so i don't even see the comparism between now and our mothers of the old,infact women now have more duties when it comes to kids with perverts running around and the dark side of technology etc. The only thing i see that is different is the level of freedom which you seem to be bitter about hence this your comment

us to be the provider men of the past while women are free to not be women of the past. Women of the past were more useful to their husbands: they gave birth, took care of the children, accepted the man was the head of the house, listened to their husbands' commands and rules (the husband's authority was finally), consistently and without fail did the chores of cooking, cleaning, and tidying, respected their husbands, gave sex whenever the man wanted etc. all these in return for the man being the provider.

Which brings me back to the issue of control and manipulation which the woman must strive to be free from for her own good not so she can be equal .Our mothers endured alot in the past not because they were happy but they had no choice infact in my culture leaving your husband's house was a taboo. So these men knew their wives were going nowhere so they did whatever they liked cos the tradition was all in their favour. Your choice of word like "commands and rules" is a justification that truly women of old adapted patience as means of survival and not because they liked it .

Martinez39:
Feminists are not taking on any responsibilities, they are a egoistic, hypocritical, and toxic bunch. Now listen carefully, the provider men of the past are different from men of today, same with the women. The provider men of the past and women of the past had genders roles that were respected and women knew their place. These women were demanded to fulfil certain roles and they had no equal rights and opportunities as men. We men will only become sole providers when you all revert back to being women of the past.

You can't expect us to be the provider men of the past while women are free to not be women of the past. Women of the past were more useful to their husbands: they gave birth, took care of the children, accepted the man was the head of the house, listened to their husbands' commands and rules (the husband's authority was finally), consistently and without fail did the chores of cooking, cleaning, and tidying, respected their husbands, gave sex whenever the man wanted etc. all these in return for the man being the provider. So you see, in the past both were useful to themselves. I ask, can a modern woman do all these? You want men to be the provider but can you and your fellow feminists, even women in general, do all these?

The modern woman, in her bloated feminist ego, can't do all these. Why then should we be asked to provide. Let me give you some hard truth:
1) It's not written anyway that men are supposed to provide for women's needs.
2) Men don't owe women their money. If women need money, let them go and find work.
3) Men have the right to withhold their cash. It is no crime or sin and it is their right.
4) It is not a crime or sin if a woman is expected to provide. Prove me wrong using sound reasoning instead of the usual rhetoric or shaming. You all what equality, you shall then put your money where your mouths are.

The provider male role is not natural. Just like mathematical concepts, men defined that role and it's not incumbent on them to fulfil such responsibility. I hope men wake up by realising these facts and act on them so that they can tame the entitlement, hypocrisy, and irrationality of ladies. We cannot have it screamed into our faces that women are equal yet we are somehow expected to provide. Put your money where your mouth is.


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gathering the crowd i see ,i know you are a angry person for whatever reason best known to you ,but i think you need to calm down comprehend before typing away, i am even reading your comment in a shouting male voice,Lol

Genset:
God bless u op. This has been on my mind for such a long time. I used to be a feminist until i carefully thought about it and realised that women are actually cheating themselves . My husband will be a provider while i be the caretaker ....If get wants me to contribute finanancially he MUST be domesticated as well...i no like cheating

Thank you ,atleast there should be a balance ,women should stop doubling their duty ,that is not equity feminism was built on its cheating that a working woman has to go to work,come back attend to the kids ,cook ,clean the house while all the man does is come back from work and lift his feet up,to me it just doesn't show equity at all,modern feminism is cheating women.

MJBOLT:

modern day feminists are simply confused,they want the privileges of men but not the responsibilities.

actually they are taking on more responsibilities that is if you read and understood my write up .

Ladyhippolyta88:
Op read on the nature-nurture debate.

Some of the things we claim are nature based are actually nurture based. The environment we live in which is coupled by religion, culture, level of enlightenment and so on.

And by the way Op
Equality is equity. I am sure you have heard of that maxim.

Whatever view and mentality we hold is shaped by our environment. You were brought up to believe that a man's main duty is to provide and that does not necessarily mean nature made it so. It is nurture(environment) that made it so.
In some society's women can provide because their environment allows such. Same way you believe men should provide it is your environment or society that told you that.

(I am not arguing for feminism just stating a point I deduced from your write up)

Nature is not limited by environment i am sure all women (naturally born as women) have wombs and all men(naturally born as men) don't have. This is a natural order. If men are not helping women offload the duties tied to them by nature and biologically i dont see why they are filling in for men financially while still maintaining their bioligical roles ,to me that is taking up double duty.

And no equality is not equity as the modern day feminism is making it look like. Power grandstanding of "i can do it too" of modern day feminism and being treated with respect and equal opportunity are very different.

That same environment that women are allowed to provide i am sure the men have no problem being caregivers and caretakers either which is what this write up is centered on. There has to be a balance, if he is not helping you offload the biological aspect ,then stop playing both roles as a woman,its doubling your duty.

I would like to point out that this is my personal opinion and i in no way want to infringe on the right of others to have their opinion as well but nevertheless it is my opinion.

I have said it time and time again that i think modern day feminism which has shifted from its main aim of equity to equality is women shooting themselves in the foot. Again my Personal opinion.

Nature has a made the roles very clear ,the provider and the caregiver. The man is the provider and the woman is the care giver.

Women have wombs for a reason ,ever wondered why men don't? Think on that.

Now if men are not helping women offload their biological weight why are women struggling to help men offload their financial weight to prove a point? The truth is the self esteem of men is tied to one thing "being able to provide". A man who works comes home ,hangs his feet and waits for his food, but a working house wife , comes home takes care of the kids ,cooks ,cleans before she eats. You see why i said women are shooting themselves in the foot because in trying to prove a point ,you are working yourself more no wonder many women look older than their husbands.

That is why i will not pay for a date,or give a man money ,its your duty as a man to provide ,and if you cant , off you go. Our forefathers gave their wives lands to farm ,that was their own way of providing,some of our mothers didnt even farm. But you see modern men shying away from this aspect and wanting women to be co-providers yet they will not agree to be co-caretakers and caregivers.Even men who loose their jobs instead of taking the role of the caregiver to ease the load off their wives become bitter and vindictive and develop this victim mentality cos the only thing tied to their manliness is actually their ability to provide .

I believe in equity , treating humans irrespective of gender with respect and dignity that was the original aim of feminism not this power tussle and gender grandstanding we see today and this is just my opinion .

INSTANTCASH345:
I am not into online dating stuff oh...but I have a clue of some of the sites they use.

If you are going there,you must be yourself and be truthful no matter how black you are.You will definitely meet a white man but you go sub enh!

Nothing is free on those sites;you pay and get what you want!text your whatsapp line.

let me pm you instead .

INSTANTCASH345:
You are right my man...they met on dating apps.

Its all luck tho...I know one of my neighbor;a very pretty gal that a guy from UK used to call frequently.She charges her phone in my house when ever I put on the generator.

Yet she still has a Nigerian guy she is dating who they both even stay together.

All those Nigerian gals getting married to white men are into online Romance,period!

care to share the name of the dating app? Help a sister ,me too want to marry white man as una say Nigerian ladies are this and that make we kuku face oyinbo men give una peace.

pocohantas:
I don't understand what all these small small boys are turning into. The level of drug abuse and perversion is at an all time high.

You don't even see their elder-brothers talking about things like this or advising them to be better. All you see is a bunch of negroes shouting olosho, feminism and take red pill. One would think those are the banes of the society.

Retards

The so called elder brothers at too busy fighting gender war with women ,so to them allowing their vagabond brothers turn Nigeria into the rape headquaters of the world is a win win for them, atleast it will be a form of punished to their perceived gender enemies.

A scantily dressed lady on Instagram is more dangerous to society than their brothers who are rapist,cultists ,ritualists ,fraudsters (both home and abroad) child molesters etc.

emerged01:
Is Mali better than Nigeria? Some Nigerians just hear travel, next dem don go,dem no Dey think of wetin Dey ahead of them.

as eh ,its really annoying . Nigerians are everywhere so far na travel