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I guess this is a surgical strike as they say.

This is the 3rd school hit by Israel today. UNITED NATIONS run school the last resort for civilians to run to. Hamas fighters don live or hide in UN schoools

Israeli strikes have killed at least 40 people who took refuge inside a UN school in the Gaza Strip, medics have said.

The strike on Tuesday hit a school run by the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, Unrwa, in the northern town of Jabaliya.

Medical sources at two Gaza hospitals said two tank shells exploded outside the school, where hundreds of Palestinians had sought refuge from the Israeli attacks.

The toll quickly rose as rescuers struggled through the rubble.

In addition to the dead, several dozen people were wounded, the officials said.

Doctors said all the dead were either people sheltering in the school or residents of Jabalya refugee camp, in the north of the Gaza Strip.

John Ging, director of operations in Gaza for Unrwa, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, said three artillery shells landed near the school where 350 people were taking shelter.

Ging said Unrwa regularly provided the Israeli army with exact geographical coordinates of its facilities and the school was in a built-up area.

"Of course it was entirely inevitable if artillery shells landed in that area there would be a high number of casualties," he said.

"The initial findings,  are that there was hostile fire at one  of our units from the UN facility," Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israeli prime minister, said.

"Our unit responded. Then there were explosions out of  proportion to the ordnance we used," he said.

Avital Liebowitz, an Israeli military spokesperson, told Al Jazeera that Hamas had "booby-trapped" installations in Gaza and Israel had no choice but to retaliate."

"This is how it is in wars, we did not choose to be in a war. However, Hamas chose to target Israelis, we did not force them to do anything, and Hamas chose terror."

But Azmi Bishara, a former Arab member of the Israeli Knesst, told Al Jazeera that Hamas' rockets were a "protest shout" against a "an occupying power".

"They are weapons of the poor, used to express their will.

"Israel would say, "what would any normal country do if they were threatened by rocket fire? They would act".

"But Israel is not a normal country, it is an occupying country, a colonial country and the people of Gaza are under siege."
Earlier in the day, two people were killed when an artillery shell hit a school in the southern town of Khan Yunis and three people were killed in an air strike on a school in the Shati refugee camp in Gaza City, medics said.

More than 640 people have been killed and 2800 others wounded in the 11-day operation, most of them civilians.

Widening the operation

The Israeli military also appears to be broadening its assault on the Gaza Strip as heavy artillery fire is reported from the southern Gazan city of Khan Younis.

Palestinian witnesses said Israeli tanks have moved into Khan Younis, the second biggest urban area in the Strip after Gaza City, in what seems to be an attempt to isolate it from Rafah.

Ayman Mohyeldin, Al Jazeera’s correspondent in Gaza, said Khan Younis is strategically significant on several levels - including that Palestinian fighters can fire missiles into Israeli territory from there.

He stressed reporting teams cannot confirm the reports as they are unable to reach the south from Gaza City in the north because the Strip has been effectively dissected by a column of Israel troops.

Mohyeldin also said Palestinian factions had reported that the Israeli navy was attempting to land near the central coastal city of Deir al-Balah – the scene of more intense fighting - on Tuesday.

"There was very intense shelling overnight and people woke to the presence of ground forces in and around Khan Younis this morning," he said.

Four Israeli soldiers were killed and 24 wounded in battles around Gaza City on Monday night, the Israeli military said early on Tuesday, bringing the Israeli death toll to eight.

Nowhere to hide

Fierce clashes between Israeli troops and Palestinian fighters were also reported in Jabaliya in the northern Gaza Strip and two black plumes of smoke could be seen rising over the area.

Fares Akram, a Gaza city resident, told Al Jazeera there was "no safe place in Gaza" as "the Israeli war planes don't stop dropping bombs and firing missiles into Gaza".

Akram says his wife, who is nine-months pregnant, is living in fear of going into labour both because of how dangerous it is to leave their home and because "she knows hospitals in Gaza are in chaos".

He said that while Gazans appreciated demonstrations staged across the Arab world in protest at Israel's actions in the Strip, most believe that while the US backs the Israeli offensive the assault will continue.

In addition, the humanitarian situation in Gaza – already poor following the 18-month Israeli blockade of the strip that left the territory desperately short of fuel, food and medical supplies – is worsening.

John Ging, the head of Unrwa, said he was "shocked" by "the brutality of the injuries" he had seen during a visit to the Shifa hospital in Gaza.

'Absence of accountability'

He said: "There are very real shortages of medicine. This hospital has not had electricity for four days. If the generators go down, those in intensive care will die. This is a horrific tragedy here, and it is getting worse by the moment.


Smoke rises after an Israel air strike near the border between Egypt and Gaza [AFP]
Ging described the situation as "the consequences of political failure and complete absence of accountability for this military action" and appealed for political leaders in the region and around the world to "take on the responsibility".

A number of diplomatic initiatives are under way in the region, with Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, visiting Israel and Syria on Tuesday for talks aimed at brokering a ceasefire.

Sarkozy, speaking with Bashar al-Assad, his Syrian counterpart, called on Syria to use its weight to influence Hamas.

"Syria needs to apply its weight to both sides, but in particular to Hamas that the missile attacks stop,” he said in the Syrian capital, Damascus.

"Syria has to convince Hamas to make a choice for peace, reason and logic and that they themselves become the agent of reconciling Palestinians. We have to get to the point where we can solve this problem.

"There are still a few hours left for us to carry on talking, but I am convinced if both sides are prepared to take the first step, the fighting can stop. The images we have seen are unbearable for all of us.

"It is up to each side to make the first step, with help from Europe, Turkey and Egypt,  to escape the spiral of violence and replace it with a spiral of peace."

Israel launched its offensive on the Strip after a fragile six-month ceasefire with Hamas – the Palestinian faction that controls Gaza – ended on December 19.

Both sides blame each other for the failure of the ceasefire, with Israel saying Palestinian fighters breached the truce by firing rockets into southern Israel.

Hamas, and other Palestinian groups, say the truce could not be extended because Israel failed to lift its crippling siege of the Strip.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/2009169564177230.html

see also http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm

iceblue:
EVERYONE except yourself can see that Israel is only defending itself, albeit having decided to take it a step further by doing what they should have done in the first place.

I am sorry it is not everyone - Amnesty international, United Nations UNRWA, International Red Cross, UN president of General Assembly,UN Secretary General Ban Ki moon, French President Nikolas Sarkozy, i could go on and on.

On the contrary only the US uses the veto at the security council where the other 5 members wanted to issue a resolution condemin the aggression of the Israelis.

iceblue:
beyond your religious fanaticism and open insults to anyone with an opinion contrary to yours,

Calm down bro how do you tell I am a religous fanatic ? By supporting Hamas or by being against Israeli actions? or by being against the israeli massacre?

Chill out mate can you name anyone i have insulted on any posts on NL apart from Davidylan for obvious reasons. Just name one.

davidylan:
Lagosthug, instead of just vituperating why don't you provide FACTS? Is it so hard to back up your rage with concrete truth?

If you can find ANY single reference to Jerusalem (i mean direct reference, not where ur scholars have deceptively forced it in), in the quran or hadith then show me.

If you know he went there then show me.

they initially prayed towards jerusalem in order to please the jews . . . after allah released yet another "revelation" claiming the initial command to pray towards jerusalem was to test them. Now muslims pray towards mecca with their backs turned to jerusale

since you know why don't you lead us aright instead of bleating in outrage.

Quote from: Lagosboy on Yesterday at 11:02:50 PM
We can move to the religous thread to discuss this and not here as i wouldnt let you distract us

is that a tacit admission that you have no answers despite your rage?

Quote from: Lagosboy on Yesterday at 11:02:50 PM
from the real issues at stake-Israels war crime acccording to Richard Falk the UN rappoteur to the region (He his a jew)
The REAL ISSUES at stake is the ideology of death, violence and intolerance from those bloodcuddling fanatics HAMAS.

Why not talk to your brain that this is the politcal section and we are discussing a massacre of humans. Tell your brains to walk you to the religous thread open it and lets discuss the garbage you are disseminating about Islam.

You call it a tacit admission of no answer , very stupid indeed.

I repeat dont distract us from the issues at hand. The day you stop attaching you extreme right fanatical religous hatred to every single discussion and thoughts that day your intelligence would get its freedom from the Israel captivity it is presently in.

iceblue:
@ LAGOS BOY

i'm sure if someone throws a rock at you, you will respond in kind. hamas picked a fight. they should take whatever they get in the process. it takes two to fight, but more importantly, it takes the first shot to set it all in motion

This is taking the story from halfway.

Did Hamas just fired rockets without reason? This is what we are made to beileve but it is false.

I have said this over and over again and i would repeat it again.

There was a ceasefire in which rockets was to stop and Israel was to stop the the the building of settlements in west Bank and open the blockade on Gaza after 6 days of the ceasefire. There was no rockets for 6 days Israel did not open the blockade. 6 months gone pass it is still a mirage but on the other hand it was a known fact the rockets was minimal and there was a relative calm within those 6 months.

Hamas offered an extension to the Truce by Israel easing the crossings and allow supplies to Gaza, fuel,food,medicine and so on. Israel refused and that was the ceasfire dead.

How can any sane minded person sees this massacre and calls it "Pallywood". You need deliverance - somebody pls help him!!!

BY THEIR WORDS WE SHALL KNOW THEM

Everyday Davidylan just makes a fool of himself by his comments. He sheds crocodile tears when terrorist strike and now laughing when another Terrorist is killing babies. I am happy you are exposing you hate filled belly to the world.

Thanks to Seun for the good explanation.

Like Richyblack said i saw that man on aljazeera yesterday wailing and crying like a baby - his four children were murdered by the Israelis, the picture of him there was a picture of wailing not injured.

Adam Brody:
Only someone as daft as davidylan would take him serious! don't you see how xenophobic and evil he is? why is he happy that kids are dying because e is supporting a country? What a very black evil and devilish mind. And to think of it that he is a so called christian, leaves a lot to de desired about the kind of christians amongst us!

One day i hope they carry your child like that and post it online to make fun of and compare!

Idiot!

You are right Adam!!!! Even if he sees an IDF tank crushing a baby he would say the baby would grow up to be a Hamas fighter. He said this on the other thread that the babies and women are would be Hamas hence they needed to be crushed now.

An evil mind indeed filled with deep rooted hate. He needs to be taken to the Rehab honestly as he has gone out of control!!!

Jairzinho:
Wrong comparisons my friend.

The Amerivcan didn't fire from a territory they held and run for cover in mosques,hospitals & schools.

The ANC attacked and ran away to other countries,not expose their people to senseless warfare.

If hamas really cared about their people they should have tried to participate in TALKS,everyone knows military approach will only lead to the current situation,so why try it??

You may spew al the 'they-all-hate-Muslims& Arabs' words you like,but that doesn't hide from the fact.

Like I challenged people earlier READ the history,don't restrict yourself to propaganda.

Whether we like it or not there is sadly a preponderance of loss of innocent lives when 'muslims' fight for causes. Sad but true !

Please this is simply false. It is Israel that has refused to talk to Hamas. Hamas won an election The US,EU and Israel refused to recognise the hamas led government of national unity. Hamas was reay to talk but the west refused. ~Hamas participated in the ceasefire that was never implemented by Israel. Is that not talking ? Hamas has sent a delegation to Cairo to participate in any negotiation is that not talking? please lets read with objectivity the news we get.

Jairzinho:
Whether we like it or not there is sadly a preponderance of loss of innocent lives when 'muslims' fight for causes. Sad but true !

This is not correct. The tamil tiger of Sri lanka are not muslims and fighting for a cause liberation of the tamil land, they invented suicide bombing, Farc rebels of colombia are not muslims and fighting for a cause, many innocent people have been killed and in captivity, ETA rebels in spain are not muslims and detonate explosions around, Laurent Nkunda in Congo is not muslim but his fighters kill innocents people, I could go on and on all i am trying to say let us not trivialise this massacre by mere attaching our religous sentiments to it.

It is not just muslims struggling in Palestine thousands of christians are facing humilation and oppression as well. The entire palestinians are fighting for this just cause.

Yaser arafats wife is a christian

This is a struggle of liberation from zionist oppression and humilation.

Jairzinho:
Gadogado,
You should learn to articulate your points intelligently & not resort to insults(highlighted above.

I think this should be addressed to Davidylan!!! He his the chief in insulting people. If you follow my posts I have never insulted anyone except Davidylan who called me a "moronic islamist" and i brought his attention to it but said i lost respect cos of my first post on NL so i could see its personal. He keeps insulting everyone that is against his position and using derogatory religous words.

Jairzinho:
Do we :

1. Wipe out Israel (hardly feasible) or
2.Do we work at a homeland for the Arabs in the Area ('Paletinians) side by side a viable Israel?

Hamas believes in Option 1,so its a bit surprising they are complaining about 'disproportinal force'. You want to wipe out the 'armed robber' and yet you're saying the 'armed robber' is using 'disproportional force'??

If your goal is to wipe out Israel,so you can claim what is rightfully yours,why complain?

This is wrong and this is what the western media keeps singing. sheikh Yassin of blessed memory Hamas founder said in1994 to offer Israel a long term truce for Israel to withdraw to its 1967 borders and dismantle the settlement but they laughed it up. Now they are singing for a 2 state solution which hamas has said when they won the election are willing to accept. This is implicitly accepting Israel as long as Israel recognises Hamas as well.

Take it or leave it Israel can and will never no peace until they give up what they have stolen, Hamas would never be destroyed because it is a movement not a stationary building.

@Iceblue why spread Iraninan comments of 2005 here when we are talking of palestine. Is it Iran under attack or Palestininians

davidylan:
i stopped reading when i got to the highlighted above.

please gadogado . . .what part of "palestinian land" is occupied? A honest answer please.

The West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Check th UN charter and see what west bank is called.

The UN security council including US says it is under occupopation and even Israel admits it is an occupying power.

Davidylan can you quote us a SINGLE REFERENCE TO SAY WEST BANK IS NOT UNDER OCCUPATION.

Sky Blue:
Last time i checked Gaza was not landlocked in Israel, so what happened to its other borders? Why are rockets not being fired at its other neighbours?

Israel bombed Gaza airport no plane can land there, Israel bombed the airspace no plane can fly close without israels approval or would be shot down, Israel blocked Gaza's sea no ship can dock there. A boat carrying aid last sunday was partially destryoed by Israel. The order Border with Egypt is always closed because Mubarak is compliocit in this crime against humanity. The arab leaders have failed the palestinians despite their people protest and this is because US supports this evil despots. Hamas blew up the border earlier in the year and allowed free movement for sevral days when the siege was unbearable.

idiopathic:
Lagosboy,
Your Rabbi friends were lucky to have criticised Zionism in a democracy like Israel. Can you imagine their fate if they had criticised Islam in Saudi or Taliban's Afghanistan.
You know they would have instantly been beheaded.

You talk of democracy how come the west never allowed or respected the best election in the history of middle east because an enemy won the election the democracy wasnt allowed to thrive. Double standard in its optimium manifestation. Hamas now takes power by force the whole world starts to shout!! what a hypocritical world!!

I dont know if any of you folks are watching aljazeera the only international station present in Gaza because Israel has refused entry of journalist. The live pictures of hundreds of kids is sickenig and anyone with conscience would condemn Israels show of shame

idiopathic:
You talk of Gaza being a prison. Why are the palestines not asking Egypt to open their own borders? If Arabs/Muslims really loved the Palestines, they can supply food, water, power through their border with Egypt. What this obsession with Israel?

Answer above.

davidylan:
Jerusalem is not central to the islamic faith at all. It is not mentioned in the quran or hadiths at all, mohammad never went there, muslims pray towards mecca, the al aqsa mosque was built by a muslim coonqueror bent on eliminating traces of the jewish temple (hence the use of the temple mount) . . .

It has been a jewish city for 3000 years and continued to retain a majority jewish population up until 1948 . . . why shld the UN administer it? If arabs were in charge would they accept UN administration?

I have done everything possible to separate religion from this threads but you just cant see trhough your religious pin hole mind. Now you are uttering utter nonsense and rattling ignorant lines. What do u know of the islamic faith for saying jerusalem wasn mentioned in the Quran or hadith .Who told you the prophet PBUH never went there and who told you the muslims never prayed towards Jerusalem If you dont know just shut the f**k up and stop misleading folks abt Islam. We can move to the religous thread to discuss this and not here as i wouldnt let you distract us from the real issues at stake-Israels war crime acccording to Richard Falk the UN rappoteur to the region  (He his a jew)

morpheus24:
Thats not the point. Arabs are not the original inhabitants of Palestine/Philistine

Caucasians are not the original inhabitants of USA , you get the point?

dayokanu:
Those children killed by hamas rockets and suicide attacks don't qualify as innocent they are guilty children

Of course innocent children would always be innocent. The point is occupation tell Israel to give up stolen property and they would be secure

morpheus24:
Arafat failed his people by not accepting the Camp David 2000 negotiations where he was offered as much as Israel could possibly give without jeopardizing their safety.

lets stop fooling ourselves. If they gave you close to 95% of whatyou asked for you wuld be fool not to take it because of religious isues and so called holy sites

Does Israel not consider the land their holy site?

What do you call a state that illegally occupies another territory and steals its land?

Tayo-D:
@blackspade,

afterall Islam refers to them as pigs and dogs. Your outrage is at best hypocritical.

I have always maintained we should not turn this threads into a religous one as there are christians jews and muslims, atheist woteva who are all against the israeli aggression.

Do you know what zionist call non jews I f you know you could pls type it here

davidylan:
what an illiterate fool.

hahahaha!!! talk of self control. Go check the dictionary for the meaning of illiterate and see if one can type.

Fool i thought u said i throw insults at you.

Back to the issue ever heard of the maghrebs?? If you have could you tell me where their land is historically?

You people should go read common history and not come here and speak jargons.

texazzpete:
And how many muslims have you seen ever going against the actions of Hamas/hezbollah et al?
Naive people who have never been under the cosh before.

The PLO members comprises majority muslims and they dont like Hamas so whatare you saying i dont get it.

These rabbis i spoke to personally told me they were beaten and tortured in Israel for speaking against Zionism. They experienced the wars and killings they are not naive in the least. As a matte of fact they know more thanyou and u cant knw more than them. They are jews and from Israel.

texazzpete:
And what do you call the Munich killings of Israeli Athletes? The suicide bombings, the hijackings. Assisted suicide?

Tell Israel to withdraw to its 1967 borders and Give up the stolen lands. You cannot steal my land and expect me to laugh at you. Occupation is the point here.

Kobojunkie:
You are calling for people to set aside religious bias, but you inject religion into it yourself. Why?

If you read my comments you quoted well you would understand there is no religous bias of any sort. All i said was that even christians are proesting agains israeli aggression and making a point that this war should be looked at from a political point simple!!!! Where have i injected religious bias??

Sky Blue:
I just have 2 questions for you. Isreal had left gaza before this latest conflict, so what "occupied" land do you speak off? If you were isreal and you were being fired at all this while and no one seemed to be taking notice and the missles were getting closer to major urban areas, what would you do?

You firs question:

Palestinian territories comprises the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem.

Israel in 2005 withdrew from only Gaza and consolidated its hold on the west bank. It increased the settlement  which is against the UN resoutions and internatioal law. Isreal built its wall deep into palestinant land which is illegal.

Israel withdrew from Gaza and blocked its airspace, blocked its sea on the mediteranian and closed the land crossings. They withdrew and made Gaza a glorified prison. The ceasefire 6 months ago included Israel lifting the blockade but Israel did not lift it having signed the ceasefire.(they broke the ceasfire) but the rocket were minimal.

At the end of the ceasfire Hamas offered to extend it if israel would lift the blockade but Israel refused and Hamas fired rockets in protest of the civilian population that had been starved by Israel for 18 months due to the siege on Gaza.

What sense isit in leaving the room then surrounding the room - is that withdrawal?

your question 2

If i were Israel i would simply withdraw to my 1967 borders , give up my stolen lands - West bank, Jerusalem, Gaza give the golan heights to syria and let the palestinans be. If they still attack me then i have a right to attack them and defend myself.

Negro_Ntns:
@Post,

The experience of the Falashas and Ethiopia generally in a two decade period from 70s to 90s is a prime evidence of what it could have been like. Today, the Falashas that were covertly emigrated to Israel in the 70s and 80s continue to experience, with their children and grand children, acts of racism and isolation from mainstream Israel.

Why didn't Europe find a settlement for them in its own territory, or re-settle them in America? Afterall they were victimized by the Europeans under silence observation of the Roman Catholic church.

Davidylan respond to it as you want them in Africa. You talk of arabs as is north Africa is not their land.

The fact remains for eveyone to see the jews enjoyed the best sanctuary in the Islamic world when they were been persecuted in Europe. The jews in morocco have positions in the monarch palace, the jews in Iran are happy, the jews in Iraq lived in peace and even pre 1948 the jews in palestine lived side by side the muslims in peace.

@Justgood

Dont be intimidated by the hawks and wolves in sheep clothings!!!

There are many christians like you in europe, America, Australia, Palestine and Lebanon who understand the evil ideology of Zionism.

You are not on your own keep the flag flying!!!

Objectivity is expensive and Gold on NL but u seem to have it

Keep the flag flying!!!

I just feel ashamed that we Nigerians can never for once look at issues without religous bias. Christians are been killed in Gaza. Christians in Bethelehem the birth place of Jesus held protest rally yesterday against the aggression.

I was at a rally in london on saturday Jewish rabbis were there to protest against Zionism and israel's war crimes. The rally was addressed by Tony Benn a cgirstian, George Gallowey a christian. Bishops and reverend protesting against the aggression of israel and here we are black Nigerians out of hatred for islam supporting every action of the Israeli state.

Israel have been killing palestinians before Hamas was founded. Remember the Jenin massacre in 2000 if anyone remebers. Remember Goldstein who entered a mousque and killed 18 people while saying their prayers in the 90's.

Israel is illegally occupying the West bank of palestine, building settlement which is against the UN charter and resolutions, which is against international law.

The black zionists of nigeria are not seeing the political issues at stake but just "hamas are extremist so they should be bombed" Lets have conscience.

A Norwegian doctor said yesterday 28% of the dead are children , A large chunk women and very few men which could be fighters or civilians. This is a westerner talking not an arab he is treating victims at the largest hospital in Gaza Ashifa hospital.

The UN general Assembly president calls israels action monstrous!

French President Condmend the ground offensive and also rockets

The security council made a resolution agains Israel but US vetoes it.

Someone here made reference to churches in Nigeria being burnt. I dont understand the correlation in the least what has this got to do with the Israel palestinian conflict.  We just have to read and take religion away from our heads and lookt at the politcs of the conflict!!!

Palestinian land shall be liberated

Victory is Certain and Near!!!!!!!!

Cant we Nigerians reason and reject religious bigotry.

The guy was looking for the shortest cut to go to the US. Funny he got asylum. Anyway I pray for his guidance and he his free to choose woteva is best for him.

@poster

You I know you are ok but you are just one of those filled with hate and rage. Throwing a shoe equals to killing of hundreds of women and children?

You lack human milk neither is compassion a quality of yours but i am not surprised as there are about 5-6 of your likes on this Foreign affairs section you are simply towing their deluded ways.

I can only pray and hope for ur guidance !!!

dayokanu:
Has anyone here asked where the Hamas govt gets money to build rockets from?

Is it not the money they are supposed to use to build infrastructures for their people?

They are more concerned with killing Israelis than making Gazans live better.

Hamas started in 1988 as a socio political movement in Palestine. It has built tens of hospital, schools, runs university , feeds palestinians at a time when the PLO were busy stealing the international donations to Palestine.

Wonder why Hamas won the elections if your presumption were correct. The palestinans have loyalty to Hamas because their children were schooled by Hamas, their sick were treated by Hamas , when they were hungry Hamas fed them to its limited ability. Hamas also has its military wing just like Fatah has its (Al aqsa matyrs brigade). Its military wing to also defend the palestinans from israeli agression and help them liberate palestine.

Every thing God created has a defence mechanism, even a snail uses its shell as a form of defence so why should the palestinans not have a right to defend itself against Israel aggression. Israel has massacred the palestinans before Hamas was founded and they are still doing the same. The Palestinans voted for Hamas shouldnt their wish be respected as this is what democracy should be. The election was the best in the entire middle eastern history but US and Israel prefers to deal with despots like Mubarak of egypt who cannot score 10% in a free election. They romance the monarchs of Jordan and call Ahmadijad of Iran who was democratically elected a dicatator! What a double standard! My brother please just try to see things from a non US perspective for a day, try to see the arguments from the other side.

Israel starved the palestinans for 18 months by laying a siege on them, they bombed the Gaza airport, they have occupied Palestine for 41 years don’t the Palestinians have a right to resist occupation? Just try to be honest and answer the question.

Israel and the US tries to call hamas Islamic terrorist and equate them with Al qaeda but the truth is this two are different. Ideologically they are different. Hamas is fighting for the liberation of its territory which is justified,

The US on Saturday for the 43rd time vetoed the UN security council resolution against Israel. The security council is meant to provide security for the countries of the world from invasion and massacres like this. France , Russia, China all tried their best but US as usual vetoed it. This is just unfair and US media ABC ,NBC are reporting the news from an American relationship with Israel point of view.

Israel has fuelled extremism by killing and terrorising women and children and their children would pay for it years to come.

Palestinian lands would be liberated!!!!!

Victory is near!!!!

kaecy5:
@lagosboy

seriously do u think the war is about Land??

if u don't know please note the war is about religion not Land

For that to be justified tell Israel to withdraw to its 1967 borders, to leave Gaza's sea, to let go of Gaza'a airspace , to leave west bank, to stop the settlements according to UN resolution and Ceasfire agreement.

After all these if the Rockets keep landing then you can say this otherwise your statement is a fallacy.

There are chistians in palestine who live in peace with the muslims. The chistians even voted for Hamas, they held a protest march from bethlehem on sunday led by their pastors and reverends.

The west is trying to blind us by saying its all religous so they can jsutify israels 41 yr occupation of palestine.

Hamas is a socio political organisation based on religous principles just as Israel is a jewish state officially so whats anyones business if they have religous principles.

Israels occupation is illegal, criminal and monstrous according to the UN president of the general assembly on Saturday

davidylan:
so what is the solution? Fold ur arms and let the enemy continously kill your children?

the irrational comments you get on this threads makes you gasp in wonder. Now i understand a bit better the mentality of the hausa.

Has the rockets stopped?

For Israel to get peace they have to vacate thier stolen lands an move into the borders of 1967. Without that Israel would never know security or peace. They would continue to live in fear till the fear gives them heart attack like Ariel Sharon.

Sharon is not dead neither is he living, lesson for every tyrant .

Hamas would not be defeated. The rockets would not stop. The Israel objective would not be met so what was the point of killing kids and women.

The IDF is simply bunch of child killers who think they are strong. They are a bunch of weak bastards

davidylan:
Ah, i took a look at n-guage's maps and i throw up my hands in defeat. some people just can't be helped . . .

His own brainlessness must be as a result of a congenital problem.

thanks for the megaphone desktop though . . . i can use it to voice support for Israel.

Is the map true or false?

Answer the question Davidylan ?

davidylan:
there is really no negotiating with these folks.

If HAMAS supported the two state solution then why did it overthrow FATAH in Gaza?

Simply because after the Makkah agreement The US and Israel armed mahmud Dahlan the collaborator to try to fight and reduce Hamas influence and yeah they kicked Fatah out.

Can you also tell me why Mahmud Abbas sacked a legitimately elected government.

davidylan:
and what is happening in congo, zimbabwe, Darfur? Oh well who cares.

You are simply heartless and shameless!! You lack no conscience and no moral right to condem 9/11. You are just on the same side of the coin as any terrorist simple as that you freaking Black Zionist

This Nigerians are not only sick they are shameless and lack any human conscience. They are blinded by their religous hatred for Islam and thinking it is just muslims been killed. Christians held rallies at the Bethlehem the birth place of Jesus and here are the shamles associtaion of Black Zionist praising the Child Killers called the State of Israel

davidylan:
I have only 3 questions:

1. Why are the "protests" coming from mainly muslims?

2. What is the definition of a "massacre"? _{94% of all those killed in Gaza so far are militants.}

3. Where were these muslim professional "protesters" of Israel all the while when 2 million muslims were dying in Darfur?

The protest are comming from all over the world.

I was personally at a rally in London Tralfeger square on saturday and i spoke to 10 jewish Rabbis i repeat full bearded Jewish Rabbis who carried posters and explained and exposed the evil ideology of Zionism.,

I would post the pictures and interviews here.

Like i would always say Zionism is an ideology that some christians even adopt to in the US.