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pointblank 321: In Micah 7:17 we read, ‘(The nations) shall lick the dust like a serpent’.

The Book of Micah which was written hundreds of years after Genesis says the same.

There is an organ in the roof of a snake’s mouth called ‘Jacobson’s organ’. This helps the snake to smell in addition to its nose. Its darting, forked tongue samples bits of dust by picking them up on the points of the fork, which it then presents to its matching pair of sensory organs inside its mouth. Once it has ‘smelt’ them in this way, the tongue must be cleaned so the process can be repeated immediately.

Does Jacobson's Organ helps snakes to feed on dust? We read
Jacobson’s organ,also called vomeronasal organ,an organ of chemoreception that is part of the olfactory system of amphibians,reptiles,and mammals,although it does not occur in all tetrapod groups.It is a patch of sensory cells within the main nasal chamber that detects heavy moisture-borne odour particles.Airborne odours,in contrast, are detected by the olfactory sensory cells located in the main nasal chambers.Some groups of mammals also initiate a behaviour known as the flehmen response, in which the animal facilitates the exposure of the vomeronasal organ to a scent or pheromone by opening the mouth and curling the upper lip during inhalation.

The organ helps snakes hunt and track their prey.Much evidence suggests that this organ may also be involved in the detection of chemical signals related to aggression and territoriality.
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www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/299124/Jacobsons-organ
So it helps the snake to hunt and track prey and not feeding on dust.

I beleive this should satisfy your quest, but if not, you are free to stomach your belief.

You are just trying,you haven't answer the question and the other two....Peace

Tuljaking,does this thread resembles a market zone

Hesohjay: pls dey made a mistake in my date of birth(0'level) instead of 1992 dey wrote 1996 bt i used 1992 in jamb. hop no prblm

Go and correct it at Waec or Neco office.

truthman2012: "Speaking of the "tasting" ability of snakes, Dr. William R. Teska, a biology professor at Furman University who specializes in snakes informed me that snakes "taste" both dirt and air to navigate. However, other senses, like sight, sound, smell (in some species), and heat sensing (in vipers), probably play even more important roles in their navigation. Moreover, some snakes live in lakes or even oceans, and could hardly be described as "dust eaters." Others live high in the branches of tree-canopied rain forests, and seldom if ever rub their bellies on the ground and "eat dust." Besides, virtually all animals "eat" or swallow "dust" or dirt, either voluntarily or accidentally".

Firstly,your explanations has no backings.
Secondly,taste dust is different from eating dust.Humans also sniff dust,does that means humans eat dust? Humans require oxygen for breathing,does that means humans eat oxygen? Take a look at the verse again.
Genesis 3:14 -So the LORD God said to the serpent,Because you have done this,Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat DUST all the days of your life.
Is snake eating dust all the days of it life?.....Peace

peteregwu: pls what i posted was Jesus words and not that ofJohn. u cant believe the bible for now or understand it, until d appointed time of the Lord comes. just like i said, argument is wat u want. in our church i hav many muslims giving testimonies of how d jesus saved them. u are here arguing. in d mosque do u hav any testimony? never, that alone is not possible,because you are not serving the true God.

I am not here for argument,here to reason.Yes,you may have many muslims giving testimonies in your church.Christianity is flourishing in slums where poverty ridden and ignorant muslims are easily converted.You can visit any islamic organization near you like NACOMYO and you will be shocked with the number of revertees they have.

Jesus is the father,this is a mystery that is hard for an uunbeliever to believe. that is why he told Philip. if you have seen me, then you have seen the father.

You didn't answer my question,I also quoted where Jesus said nobody has ever seen the father[John 5:37]

John

10:30 KJV
I and my Father are one.

Jesus is also called the ALPHA AND OMEGA which means the beginning and the ending.

Revelation 1:8 KJV
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

what is that to you?

Jesus also says in John 17:21-23 (NIV) -that all of them may be one,Father,just as you are in me and I am in you.May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me,that they may be one as we are one:
I in them and you in me.May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me..
The same one is used in both verses,if you agree that Jesus and the father are one being as used in John 10:30 then you must also agree that Jesus,his disciples and the father are one being as used in John 17:21-23......Peace

Okcharles7,what has all those epistles got to do with my questions? If you can't answer,go and sleep please.

Ajibam: No muslim mod is moderating here...I closed down the thread..don't post against others religion,,embrace peace

Oops,what about the op of the thread? What did he do? Wasn't he posting against Islam? The fact that no muslim mod here means muslims aren't welcome right,Ookay o new mod.

Moderators,please any tangible reason for locking this thread?
www.nairaland.com/1409895/bible-proves-muhammad-false-prophet/1#17674349

truthman2012: Firstly,I want to use this opportunity to inform your brother,tintingz on his post on "The Bible Proves Muhammad As A False Prophet" which was closed by the mod. It was about Jesus being tempted by Satan. In case he is following this thread of yours, please let him open a thread so that we can discuss it.Thanks.

Closed or deleted? He will opened another if he's still keen on it.

On your questions, I have the following answers.



Eve was a human who must be speaking a language.The same language the Serpent must have used to communicate with her.I will answer your question here with another one: what language was Eve speaking? I'm sure Eve is mentioned in your quran too.

Don't answer my question with another question.

This is an obvious case. The fact that the Bible says it was cursed to move on its belly shows it was moving on its legs before.

How can you be so sure that serpent was moving on its legs? Do you have backings for it? It may have used wings you can't tell.

There is no way you can be so sure that snake does not feed on dust for the few hours you spent in the Zoo. You know Zoo is under management by people. They feed the animals therein. If it was not hungry it would not eat anything. Or what was it eating when you were there?

Does a snake feed on dust? I was curious that I even made research.No snake ever feeds on dust as claimed by the bible.
The sand Boas which even lives in sand on the desert do not eat sand,instead they catch their prey which consist of lizard and rodent in the typical boid way[Dr. H.C ''Benard Grzimek,Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia Volume 6 1975 Van Nostrand Reinhold Company Page 374].You may made your own research and find out the serpent that do feed on dust as claimed by the bible.

Satan As Snake

Revelation 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,and bound him a thousand years,

The old serpent is referring to the one that deceived Adam and Eve.So it was Satan that was cursed.

Spirits do assume human and animal forms at will. They have that power.Even in Africa, witches assume or put on animal forms, bird, goat, cat etc. At that time in question, Satan decided to assume the form of a serpent.

Ok,so satan took the form of a serpent right? Then,does satan even eats dust? All those that claimed they were working for satan before always claim their master satan drinks blood and not dust.

I cannot find anything difficult in the questions you have raised.

You attempted it,you haven't really answer it.....Peace

peteregwu: well, because you seem to insist, let me just put this forward to you. because when it comes to Muslims, I don't like arguing with them about Jesus. we born again Christians are to preach Jesus as the only way to salvation and nor to argue with anyone.

I am not arguing,I am asking for proofs.

Below verse, Philip, one of the desciples of Jesus asked Jesus to show them God (father), but Jesus replied him, if you see me, you have seen the father(God)

John 14:8-9 KJV
"Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then , Shew us the Father?"

But the same John also reports another thing.
John 5:37 (KJV) -And the Father himself,which hath sent me,hath borne witness of me.Ye have neither heard his voice at any time,nor seen his shape.

John 5:37 (NIV) -And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me.You have never heard his voice nor seen his form..
Which one is correct?

Below again is the words of Jesus to believers.

John 5:23 KJV
"That all men should honour the Son(Jesus), even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son(Jesus) honoureth not the Father which hath sent him."

Jesus was sent and that means he's not God.My question is that you should point out a verse from the bible where Jesus says I AM GOD OR WORSHIP ME.His own unequivocal statement.We read again
[color=#990000]John 17:3 (KJV) -And this is life eternal,that they might know thee the only true God,and Jesus Christ,whom thou hast sent.This signifies that Jesus has a Lord greater than him,he was only a messenger sent.....Peace

tbaba1234: Salat lasts for a few minutes, there is no excuse.

Yeah,I got up for SOLAT fortunately.They don't want to abandon the guests I think.

So what do they spend money on? What kind of entertainment did they have?

Just food,no music used an open field.So,they weren't extravagant I think

truthman2012: Why are you asking the obvious? You get your answer from where you got the information that he was tempted. He was tempted but not bewitched. There is a difference between temptation and bewitchment. Charm cannot work on true prophets, even me.

Lolz,who are you? A prophet? I laugh in kanuri.
**finally unfollows the thread**

tbaba1234: Alright,

Question

How do you create a balance in planning a nikkah? Often times, there is so much haram in Nikkahs, people miss their salat, ridiculous amounts of money spent, free mixing etc.

Since this is half your deen, shouldn't it be in accordance with your deen? What about simplicity?

Awaiting your views

The Nikkah I attended yesterday,when it was time for solat those ustadhs never got up to pray.Their excuses was that since they are performing a Nikkah and it's a religious duty,Allah will forgive them.But is that acceptable? No harm music,no free mixing though.

busar: We do experience this also whenever we are listening to lecture.

You are pretty right brother.We also experience this when someone died,we do shiver to the marrow when they put the person in the grave.A day or more after the burial,we tend to forget.May Allah(swt) gives us the Hidayah to remember Him always.

deols: Trust me, I am very cool.


I just had to point those out. It would be unfair to all the parties involved not to.

I had one ustadh in Nigeria who was fond of doing things like this. If he tells you something and you are giving it a thought, he'll come up with a verse to make you feel like you are shaytan himself or even worse..lol.

He could say, Allah talks about people who reject his ayah or those who say, we hear and we obey.

Even when you preach Islam, hikmah has to be involved. You dont go castigating others or making them feel not righteous. That should be because you think you are the perfect Muslim.

The matter that even degenerated into this wasnt supposed to be so serious.

I really am sorry if my outburst is mean to anyone. Just had to say it like that. Thank God I couldnt post yesterday sef wv d way d thing dey pain my body then.

Sister Deols,for the sake of Allah don't let us the analogy of that ustadh with this situation.I never claim I am perfect muslim,who am I to castigate others? It's just my stupidity that I brought up the reference of the hadith.Please forgive me really sorry.

deols: No. showietee knew exactly what he was doing.

And Lanrexlan needs to take responsibility for his action.

Action? Why putting the larger part of the thing on my head? I didn't bring the idea of the hadith afterall,I only give reference.I am really sorry ma

truthman2012: Point of correction: nobody has answered my questions so far. What your brother said is that I do not understand. Understand what?

Your question has been answered.

What Muhammad experienced was not a test by allah, he was actually charmed by a magician and the charm had so much effects on him. Did allah later tell him he was the one responsible for the magic? Muhammad failed the test of a true prophet. Do you know of Elijah in the Bible, who dealt with 400 prophets of Bar? No magic could work on such one and other true prophets of God. umh?

If not a test,what's it? No harm befalls anyone but has already be written in a plain Book.

Jesus never prayed against temptation. He only taught his disciples, who were still very young in faith because their resistance to temptation could be littled at that time.

You are still dodging the question.The question is which spirit led Jesus into the wilderness in order to be tempted?

deols: I find it irritating that some people would quote hadiths 'against' women when they cannot find reasonable lines of argument.

That is a cheap way out,mind you.I assume you know your own position in paradise to be so sure that the people you are speaking against are going to hell.

Brother Showietee said

showietee: yo do 20 good things to a woman she praise you,the moment you mistakenly do 1 unfavourable thing to the same woman...she gets angry and get to the level of saying since have known him,have not received a good from him Deduction- they are easily tensed, so male should be careful in dealing wit them... They are delicate.

And I quoted the full hadith.

lanrexlan: It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn Abbaas said:The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it.And I saw that the majority of its people are women.They said,Why,O Messenger of Allah?”He said,Because of their ingratitude (kufr).It was said,Are they ungrateful to Allaah?” He said,They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment.If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you,she will say,I have never had anything good from you.(Narrated by Al- Bukhaari,No. 1052)

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Have I done anything wrong? Are those my words? I am deeply sorry for quoting the hadith.Nobody is promised paradise,may Allah admits us into it by his mercy(Ameen).
*unfollows thread*

truthman2012: Oga alfa,you too avoided the questions.

The brother has answered your question.See this.

dejt4u: you knw absolute notin of what u ar talkin about here.The enchantment happens for a purpose which u can neva understand.

.What else do you want? Allah says in Surah Al-Mujadilah 58:10- ...But he(satan) cannot harm them(the believers) in the least,except as Allah permits.And in Allah let the believers put their trust.
Surah Al-Baqarah 2:155-156 -And certainly,We shall test you with something of fear,hunger,loss of wealth,lives and fruits,but give glad tidings to As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.).Who,when afflicted with calamity,say:Truly! To Allah we belong and truly,to Him we shall return.

Jesus was tempted as an example for us.Satan's temptations and falling into it is no excuse as Jesus was tempted and never fell for it. You lack knowledge of spiritual things.

Jesus said Lead us not into temptations.Why was he led into it when he prayed not to be tempted? I am not talking about falling for the temptation or not.The question is which spirit led Jesus to be tempted and why was he tempted after praying?.....Peace

dejt4u: you knw absolute notin of what u ar talkin about here. The enchantment happens for a purpose which u can neva understand. And why is d jesus crucified. Why cant his God save him from cruxification?? Answer me asap.

Don't mind the op,he is a liar.Maybe he could explain this to us.
Matthew 6:9-13(NIV) -This,then is how you should pray:Our Father in heaven,hallowed be your name,your kingdom come,your will be done,on earth as it is in heaven.Give us today our daily bread.And forgive us our debts,as we also have forgiven our debtors.And lead us not into temptation,but deliver us from the evil one..
Which spirit led Jesus into the wilderness in order to be tempted by the devil? Holy spirit or what spirit?
Matthew 4:1 (KJV) -Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil..Why was he tempted by devil after the lord's prayer?

Chukslar: My Brother just out of my Ignorance I ask this question

Does Islam encourage Muslims to kill any one who makes a joke or insults any of the Prophets (especially Muhammad) ?

Not at all,the recompense of those that mocked the messengers(peace be upon them all)is with Allah(swt).Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Anam 6:10- And indeed many messengers before you[O Muhammad(pbuh)] were mocked at,but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing they used to mock at.....Peace