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Chibuebem: i just did. Now you can do ME a favor by reading Acts 2:15-26

Sure,I have read it.
Acts 2:15-26 (NIV) -These men are not drunk, as you suppose.It's only nine in the morning! No,this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:In the last days,God says,I will pour out my Spirit on all people.Your sons and daughters will prophesy,your young men will see visions,your old men will dream dreams.Even on my servants, both men and women,I will pour out my Spirit in those days,and they will prophesy. I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below,blood and fire and billows of smoke.The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'
Men of Israel,listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles,wonders and signs,which God did among you through him,as you yourselves know.This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge;and you,with the help of wicked men,put him to death by nailing him to the cross.
But God raised him from the dead,freeing him from the agony of death,because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.David said about him:I saw the Lord always before me.Because he is at my right hand,I will not be shaken.Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;my body also will live in hope.

You just exposed more lies in your doctrines.@Blue fonts,it signifies Jesus is not God and has not share in divinity,he was a man attested to the children of Israel.@Bold,Jehovah witnesses differ with this.Moreover what has those verses got to do with the op?

Rexyl: You are wrong indeed the gospel of Jesus you are looking for a way to stain made it 100% Known that it is to seek lives for love, peace and salvation of God, and not for chaos and distruction. The principles are clear and easy to follow but are stressed by spiritual purity God wants from the believers, what many could not attain thus looking for non glorious substitutes that cause backsliding. Hope you are cleared.

What are you saying now? I said you should prove me wrong that those attributes I listed above aren't found in the bible and they are false,prove that to me.

Rexyl: How could they know unless somebody teaches them. This piece tells us the extent hearts of some people are so far away from truth about God. Some people would hold a tail of matter and believe they are what others want. Could you find time to read the whole chapter of each verse you quoted that you might understand better.

Why don't you prove me wrong?

Chibuebem: sorry, but for petes sake where did the bible mention Judas will make heaven? Nawa o. Nothing person no go see for nairaland.

Do yourself a favor by reading Revelations 21:10-21

basilico: Why can you not let your women make naira from their talent where they have to dress in tandemn like other winners.You muslim men impose dressing codes to women such that its haram for your women to earn living from their God given talent.

We impose or Allah's command? You are really a troll.Which GOD's given talent? Are you born to be a footballer? If you christians do sell your women in the name of upliftment,muslims don't.No wonder your christian sisters do fashion parade to churches,give their christian brothers holy kiss when they meet[2 Corinthians 13:12].We aren't interested in such,medals end in this world but the good righteous deeds are meant for the hereafter.....Peace

tobechi20: if a christian should write this, accusing mohamed of murder, maclunji will ban till2038:

You should check those biblical verses and see maybe I am accusing or it's exactly what's written there.

misterh: Wait... You are not a Muslim! Why are you concerned about what Islam preaches. Like you trightly said, Islam prohibits showing of skin in public. Doesn't that sound moral to you? You can expect any Muslimah to go out scantily dressed to participate. This has nothing to do with Islam hindering a woman's success. Lemme give u an instance, if someone is so good at pilfering, does that mean we should allow him go on?
In the bible, we see that sodomy/homosexuality is a sin. Using your logic, does the bible not discriminate against homosexuals?!

Seriously,I don't know the op's problem,does it add to his G.P or increase his salary if a muslimah don't participate in sports??

striktlymi: Allah = Yahweh = Chukwu = Oghena = Oghene = Olodumare = Abasi = .... = God.

You are right bro,but the qualities of the true God also matters.

WHAT ALLAH WANTS US TO KNOW:
Allah says in Surah Al-Hadid 57:20- “Know that the life of this world is only play and amusement,pomp and mutual boasting among you and rivalry in respect of wealth and children…And the life of this world is only a deceiving enjoyment.

This warns us against having excessive interest in sports as most right thing and ultimate goal.Indeed all the innovated sports and games we are doing will complicate our living in this world,which Allah has pronounced to be sport and amusement.Whereas,we have not been created for fun and sports but to know and worship Allah.It means that mad rush towards sports/games and fun and their excitement and beauty are not real but dangerous and futility of existence.

Allah awakes our unsuspecting souls in Surah Al-Maidah 5:100- Say:not equal are things that are bad and things that are good even though the abundance of bad may dazzle you,so fear Allah o you who understand,that you may prosper
That is to say,we should not judge or be influenced by quantity rather than quality. The madness that makes people dazzle for football,music and films everywhere should not capture our hearts.Instead,Allah wants us to be a man of understanding and discrimination who judge by wisdom and piety and remain uninfluenced but choose the best race He has prescribed for us,even if the people desert it.

Allah says in Surah Al-Anam 6:116- Were you to follow the common run of those on earth,they will lead you astray from Allah’s path.They follow nothing but conjecture and they do nothing but lie.
Friend,family or relative must not influence us as well.
Allah says in Surah Al-Anam 6:70- And leave alone those who take their religion as sport and amusement and whom the life of this world has deceived. But remind them with it (Quran).

enilove: We are not serving the same God.

God is not a God of confusion.

The creator is not author of confusion but peace[1 Corinthians 14:33].You need to ask yourself if it's possible for the creator to possess some absurd attributes giving to Him in the bible.

To we Christians ,we say one man one woman.
To the Muslims ,you can have more than one wife.

Give me verses from the bible that prohibit polygamy.Solomon
had a thousand wives and concubines[1 Kings 1:3].Abraham,Jacob and david had more than one wife.

To we Christians,no sinner will make heaven.
To the Muslims,sinners can make heaven if their good deeds are grrater than their evil deeds.

How come satanic Judas will make heaven[Revelations 21:10-21]?

To we Christians,we should not fight or think evil even if your enemy slaps or kicks you.
To the Muslim,You can fight or kill your enemies especially for Jihad. If you slap a muslim he can slap you back because it is not a sin
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Isaiah 65:12 (RSVA) I will destine you to the sword,and all of you shall bow down to the slaughter; because, when I called, you did not answer,when I spoke,you did not listen, but you did what was evil in my eyes, and chose what I did not delight in

Luke 22:38 And they said,Lord,behold, here are two swords.And he said unto them,It is enough.
What's the purpose of swords?
JIHAD means to strive and struggle.Allah says fight those who fight you but transgress not the limits[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:190].If the enemies want peace,you should also incline to peace[Surah Al-Anfal 8:61].Killing of innocent souls is not JIHAD.

To we the Christians,our God is in heaven and He can see and hear you wherever you are.We face any position while we pray.

To the muslims,they must face Kaaba when praying and must circumvent the kaaba during haj because the kaaba is special to them.

But the biblical god was seen wandering about[1 chronicles 17:5-6] and lives in Zion[Joel 3:17].
The kabba is just the Qiblah(direction of worship) and it's for unity among muslims.To Allah belongs all,east and west[Surah Al-Baqarah 2:142].

We Christians are children of God
The muslims are the slave of God.

Romans 6:16-18 (NIV) -Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves,you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin,which leads to death,or to obedience,which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that,though you used to be slaves to sin,you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

We Christians fo not go about killing the muslims for God.
There are some muslims who go about killing Christians for their god.

Do you know the history of christianity? The crusaders? Islam ruled Spain for more than 80 years and the crusaders came and killed almost every muslim present that no muslim could give the adhan(Call of prayer) openly.

We should not fool ourselves, we are not serving the same God.

Just use the touchstone of theology for the god you are worshipping and check if he's the true living god.Allah says in Surah Ikhlas 112:1-4-
Say;He is Allah,one and only.Allah the absolute the eternal.He begets not nor was He begotten and there's nothing comparable to Him.....Peace

The biblical god tried to murder Moses[Exodus 4:24],Allah never attempted to kill Moses but was sending His peace on Him[Surah As-Saffat 37:120-122]
The biblical god enforces people to drink alcohol[Jeremiah 25:27-28],Allah forbids alcohol[Surah Al-Maidah 5:90]
The biblical god lives in Zion[Joel 3:17] and used to wander about[1 Chronicles 17:5-6],Allah does not.
The biblical god was seen by many eyes and even dine with children of Israel[Exodus 33:11,Exodus 24:10,Isaiah 6:1,Amos 9:1],Allah is invisible.
The biblical god is a consuming fire[Hebrews 12;29],Allah is not.
The biblical god punishes innocent children for the sins of their fathers and great grand fathers[Deuteronomy 5:9-10],Allah does not.
A man burnt his daughter for the biblical god and he accepted it graciously[Judges 11:34-39],Allah doesn't even eat flesh nor blood[Surah Al-Hajj 22:57]
The biblical god requires idolatry sacrifice from every generation[Exodus 29:38-42],Allah doesn't[Surah Al-Hajj 22:57]
The biblical god is like a yoruba god called Sango because flames were seen coming out of his nostrils and fire out of his mouth[Psalms 18:8]
The biblical god fed man with paper[Ezekiel 3:1-3],Allah does not..
If you need more,let me know.....Peace

THE WAY PEOPLE TAKE IT:
Purpose of sports and games nowadays have shifted from what it was or used to be during their formations.Sports and games are now characterized with dirty and sarcastic language,betting,gambling, violence,hooliganism,corruption,fraud and cheating,killing,hatred,unclothedness and negligence of worship.
Priority is being given to sporting activities over other meaningful things.Real work and essence of life which is worship are being neglected.Everyday is becoming sports-day for some people and many have turned to be sportscasters without working in a studio.
They discuss sport than their own education and professions and they read sports news than their academic or religious books.Today while some teenagers and youths are becoming non-studio/pitch sportscasters especially on football,many don't know how to do simple sports like bicycling,swimming,high-jump,judo and the likes that can be of self defense or means of rescue or safety services to the people.
Many Muslims do not know the life history or contribution of a caliph or sahaba to Islam and many do not know simple hadiths of the prophet or what Quran says on certain issues.
However,they can tell you off hand all the scorers of the past tournaments and their goal numbers,showing what they give their lives to and what they dedicate most of their times.Many find their mentors/ models in film stars,other in musicians and some in beauty models.They esteem them, talk and think about them and act like them in a way they suppose to study the Quran and hadith as well as righteous foremost imams in Islamic history.And among the rich,mutual rivalry to acquiring and pilling up money and wealth is their game/hobby.
Latest car,structure,and electronics and all sorts of material wealth are their focus and center of discussion.Yet,so many people compete in crime and sin such as rape, fornication,drunkenness and fraud.People just want to lead a pleasurable life;life full of fun and excitement at all cost and at the expense of their faith and salvation
Allah says in Surah Az-Zumar 39:67- ...they give not the esteem of Allah such as is due to Him…

Fun and sports are intertwined,while fun is playful behavior or pleasurable activity, sport is physical and mental activity like games done as exercise for sound health, relation, excitement and pleasure.
Sports/games include cricket,bicycling, hockey,football,shooting,wrestling, volleyball,boxing,tennis,basketball, gymnastic,athletics,swimming,weight lifting,boating,chess,computer/TV games etc.
Some people take fun in singing/music, fashion,beauty modeling,film/movie,while some rich people are beguiled with acquiring every known material wealth.It is good that one know how to do certain sporting activities,but then often times, many of these activities have no moral or even socio- cultural justifications.
Only that the lopsidedness in the world today has given fun and sports the prestigious seat,which either may not merit.This has led to social and economic rivalry;as well as high esteem and value voted to it by some people even over religious activities.This conscious or unconscious over-value of fun and sports over the true acts of salvation calls for change in our lives.

BENEFITS AND DISADVEANTAGES OF SPORTS: Among the benefits are mental alertness and sharp mind,stress reduction,physical fitness,self-confidence,fame,attractive monetary and material reward,beautiful price,prevention of certain ill health and pleasure.

Disadvantages include injuries,withdrawal symptoms,negligence of duty,drug abuse, evil of betting and gambling,disregard for religious stipulations and distraction from studies among others.

From the glorious Quran.
Surah Fatir 35:10- To Him ascend (all) the goodly words,and the righteous deeds lift them.

Surah Al-Marij 70:3-4- From Allah,the Lord of the Places of Ascent,the angels and the Ruh (Gabriel) ascend to Him in a day the measure whereof is of fifty thousand years.

Surah Al-Mulk 67:16-17- Do you feel secure that He,Who is above the heavens(Allah),will not cause the earth to sink…Or do you feel secure that He,Who is above the heavens(Allah) will not send against you a violent whirlwind?"

Surah Ta-ha 20:5- The most gracious(Allah) rose over(Istawa) the mighty throne

From the sayings of our beloved prophet Muhammad(pbuh).
Abdullah ibn Amr ibn Al-As related that the Messenger said:Allah grants mercy to the merciful.Be merciful to those who are on the earth,(then) He Who is above the heavens(Allah) will be merciful to you."[Abu Dawood & At-Tirmidhi]

Jabir ibn Abdillah said:The Messenger of Allah said in his speech on the day of Arafah:'Did I convey (the Message).' They said: 'Yes.'While raising his finger to the sky and then pointing at them, he said: 'O my Lord,be a witness." [Muslim].

From the above,it can be inferred that Allah(swt) is over his throne over the seventh heaven and He only comes down over to the nearest heaven to us during the last part of every night and also on the day of Arafah as mentioned by the prophet(pbuh).But He is with us by his knowledge only,not personal self(Bi-Dhatihi).
As Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Qaf 50:16- We have created man and We know what his self whispers to him and We are nearer to him than his jugular vein......Peace

debosky: Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated.

You are most welcome bro.

debosky: ^^ Thanks for that response.

So what is a Muslim to do then, with funds in a (non-Islamic) bank account? Does the Muslim give any interest earned as say zakkat or does he simply instruct the bank not to pay interest?

Just leave it in the bank,don't do anything with it or you may give it away as charity not zakat:This falls under the category of disposing of haram income.
Some scholars say you are allowed to give it away as charity -- but you cannot expect any reward for doing so.It's not legitimate charity money.But at least you're disposing of it.You can't give it as zakat because zakat means purification of wealth and this should be done through halal means.But giving as charity is also something else because you are trying to feed others with haram,the best will be to engage in non-interest banking,just my views.

If you don't mind,I would appreciate hearing about your personal experience in this regard.

I am not running a fixed deposit account now,so I have no personal experience.

One additional question - bank interest can clearly be identified, but are other forms of 'return on investment' (such as dividends from shares) also considered interest?

It would depend on what business you are investing in through the fund and whether or not they deal with anything haram.Dividends in general are not haram as they are profit-sharing,not interest.But if dividend is guaranteed and fixed every year,then it becomes interest.It shouldn't be fixed because you may lose today and gain profit tomorrow and Allah knows best.....Peace

debosky: Not sure if this question has been asked, but is it ok for a Muslim to receive interest from banks on his/her deposits? Is this in agreement with Shari'a?

All forms of interest is forbidden in Islam.
Surah Al-Baqarah 2:275- Those who devour usury will not stand except as stand one whom the Evil one by his touch Hath driven to madness.That is because they say:"Trade is like usury,but Allah hath permitted trade and forbidden usury.Those who after receiving direction from their Lord,desist shall be pardoned for the past;their case is for Allah (to judge); but those who repeat (The offence) are companions of the Fire:They will abide therein (for ever).

Surah Al-Imran 3:130- O ye who believe!Devour not usury, doubled and multiplied;but fear Allah that ye may (really) prosper.

Surah Al-Baqarah 2:278-279- O ye who believe! Fear Allah,and give up what remains of your demand for usury,if ye are indeed believers.If ye do it not,Take notice of war from Allah and His Messenger. But if ye turn back,ye shall have your capital sums:Deal not unjustly, and ye shall not be dealt with unjustly.

Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 8,Book 82, Number 840:
Narrated Abu Huraira:The Prophet said,Avoid the seven great destructive sins." They (the people!) asked,O Allah's Apostle! What are they?" He said,To join partners in worship with Allah;to practice sorcery; to kill the life which Allah has forbidden except for a just cause (according to Islamic law); to eat up usury (Riba),to eat up the property of an orphan;to give one's back to the enemy and freeing from the battle-field at the time of fighting and to accuse chaste women who never even think of anything touching chastity and are good believers."

Beloved1993: Thanks sir.
This is exactly what my husband told me.
What if someone has 25 fasts to make up and also desires to do the sita Shawwal, if he doesn't combine fasts, by the time he is done making up Ramadan fast, Shawwal is over. Do you think in that instance it is okay to combine?

If we look at the hadith of our beloved prophet(pbuh) that says Ayyub al-Ansari reported that the Prophet, upon whom be peace,said:Whoever fasts during the month of Ramadan and then follows it with six days of Shawwal will be [rewarded] as if he had fasted the entire year.[Related by Muslim]
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From this we can deduce that the ramadan must be completed before sita shawwal can follow.So one may follow the shafi school of fiqh,you may combine and Allah knows best.....Peace

Beloved1993: Salam alaykum,
I am fasting my make up Ramadan fast and sita Shawwal. I have read that you cam combine intentions (if i have 13 make up fast, combine intention with sita shawwal, only 7 fasts left) and some say you can't combine intention and fasts(have to do them separately).
I have read articles on both sides, they seem to be fiqh not shariah, so it seems there are different opinions. Combining intentions and fasts might be the easiest thing, but is it right?

As you rightly said,there are different opinions.The shafi school for instance allowed combining intentions.They said it's not different from someone entering the mosque,for instance,before dhuhr prayer before the jama`ah (congregational prayer) begins and offering two rak`ahs of sunnah.By doing so,he stands to gain rewards for the sunnah before dhuhr as well as that of tahiyyat al- masjid (greeting the mosque).
But other schools of fiqh differs from this view.But according to my own view since those ramadan fasts are obligatory and it's a debt if you don't pay it,then you will have to fast the missed ramadan fast with its intention first,then followed by the six voluntary shawwal fasts and Allah knows best.....Peace

basilico: No sports is not the only money maker. Selling garri can make you money. Denying someone like christine her talent all in the name of religion to earn from her talent can be a crime. Agree with me whether she she shows legs to the world? Islam does not want Women to advance in sports for once. If your talent is in sports why should islam curtail a woman's potential to uplift her and by extension all the bloodsucking kith and kin?

Surah Al-Anam 6:116-Were you to follow the common run of those on earth,they will lead you astray from Allah’s path.They follow nothing but conjecture and they do nothing but lie”
The purpose of life is worship and not sports.

Oluwatobi09: Pls i chose futa as my 1st and 2nd choice,i passd d post utme i made my o levels except for physics where i had D7.any hope at all?.pls i need an urgent reply.

What's your course and what's your score?

Beloved1993: I thought we had a questions thread, but do not see it. I have a question for tbaba and everyone. Anyone can make a thread if they wish, don't want to personally do it.

This is my question.
I am fasting my make up Ramadan fast and sita Shawwal. I have read that you cam combine intentions (if i have 13 make up fast, combine intention with sita shawwal, only 7 fasts left) and some say you can't combine intention and fast(have to do them separately).
I have read articles on both sides, they seem to be fiqh not shariah, so it seems there are different opinions. Combining intentions and fast might be the easiest thing, but is it right?

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You can ask your question here.

tbaba1234: ^ Because a thing is prevalent in a culture does not make it correct. There are many things that are normal to us culturally but that are wrong Islamically.

The issue of intention does not even come up. The sharia given to Muhammad(Peace be upon him) makes it forbidden.

Ok o,me don hear you o.Hmmm

tbaba1234: It is reported in multiple hadiths so there is no controversy.

If the prophet said it, it is Law. Follow what he gives you, leave what he forbids for you.

There is this erroneous perception that it is 'just hadith'. Through out the Quran, the name Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is mentioned 4 times and as Ahmed once.

Each time, it is closely followed by the title 'Rasul Allah'. Except in one place. In Surah Muhammad.

Why?? Each time the prophet gave an instruction, some hypocrites at the time would ask him whether it is Quran or not.. Indicating they won't take any other thing seriously. In surah Muhammad, Allah responds to them by saying believe in Muhammad and omitting the title. Meaning Obey Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
As regards the story of Yusuf in

Brother,not every parent has knowledge about this.My dad told us that if anyone of his sons failed to prostrate or lean a bit when he wants to greet him,he will disown him and stop paying his School fees,Eeeeeew.Like what brother onegig says,the intention matters,if the person you are prostrating to or leaning a bit to doesn't see it as a form of worship,I personally see nothing wrong about it,just saying.

BetaThings: Amin

I just stumbled on a thread where they are complaining about him
It is always the case that people don't want their activities moderated in anyway
May Allah bless MacLatunji a thousandfold

Ameen,thumma ameen and always guide his ways.

wolajumoke: @lanrexlan
You are harmering on Proverbs 31:6-7 & 1 Timothy 5:23
The 2 verses NEVER support drinking. If you are looking for bible verse to support your action, sorry none of the 2 support it. here is the analysis.

Oops,do I look like a christian? I said the bible gives christians authority to drink wine in some cases.

1. Proverbs 31:6-7 (NIV)- Give beer to those who are perishing,wine to those who are in anguish;let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.

Here, Proverb said give wine to those PERISHING or in ANGUISH. Are you experiencing any of the two? Then how will you say the bible ask EVERYONE to drink?

You are reading my posts upside down.I am not experiencing any one

2) 1 Timothy 5:23 (NIV) -Stop drinking only water,and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
He was asked to drink wine for his ILLNESS not pleasure

I know,my religion prohibits beer even for illness.

tbaba1234: #unfollow thread..

Do not get so worked up, people... It is Seun's show, if you leave the forum, more people will join. There are many other sections.

Very correct

Reyginus: I see you court attention at all cost.
You seem to have nothing.
Oya shift.

Wetin you dey wey no sweet your mouth? Abeg,park well joor.

free2ryhme: i just completely read this post and realized I had been trying to educate a dullard.

Wonders shall never cease.A goon calling me dullard?

free2ryhme: ...to translate the dustbin u put up there? No way ..


it would have been better if you had left it in its original Arabic translation .. Google has made language easy so why do you want to complicate it

What's he saying?

Reyginus: We understand what it means when the status of a cretin is elevated. Because his stupidity was raised to horizon, his covalescents think stupidity can also be a good thing.
Now, shift.

Abuses again,keep it coming.Maclatunji-From mod in Islam For muslims section and still mod,to Mod in Region section admist hatred,no problem.

mazaje: Tell allah to come and kill the infidels that are insulting him and his prophet already, and save the muslism from doing that themelves. . . .Stop quoting mythology from story books, tell allah to come and kill off all the infidels on nairaland that are insulting him and hos propehts so that foolish blood sucking muslism will not have to do it on his behalf. . .Nonsense!!!

Take it easy bro,don't give yourself high blood pressure.Allah gives respite to the disbelievers.
Maclatunji is the new mod and there's nothing you can do about it.After all the names he was called and hatred for him,his status was elevated .Keep the hatred coming,Maclatunji will keep waxing.