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golpen: Hmmm... @lanrexlan, may ALLAH bless you in the most imaginable and unimaginable ways of blessings. I wonder why @tomakint is looking for a calabash when he makes me think its right tied to his neck. I'm sure he doesn't know anyway, he can only know when he realises that there is nothing like a /J/ pronunciation in the hebrew or aramaic(the native tongue of ISA). He can only be aware of that calabash on his neck when he realises that ALLAH/ELAH/ILAH (which has closest pronunciations) is the simple word for the one GOD in hebrew and aramaic.

The paul and other english speaking scams must have put that calabash in his neck by the means of their skillful fabrication. Ask yourself these questions @tomakint so you may be free;

1. Then where did our pastors get the /j/ from? What is the original pronunciation ?

2. If ALLAH is the pronunciation reering to the one GOD in this tongues, then what must have Jesus called his GOD, refering to him?

I just hope you stop looking for the calabash and get your eyes open from somnumbulistic drunkeness.

Ameen and you too brother.Don't mind Tomakint jare,always looking for calabash.The Issue of the origin of the name 'Jesus' was trashed here.You can read it.
www.nairaland.com/1367641/name-jesus-genesis-apostasy

olasman0: Yipee!!!!...I wuz admitted

Interesting.Dizney is right afterall.O ya,pray for him.

Tuljaking: LIST IS OUT ..ADMITED PMT

Congrats bro.Project Management Technology right?

olasman0: R u guys crious??

Seriously bro.Go to the school website.

Hesohjay: ADMISSION @ LAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What course?

PEN_MIGHT: Allaah says:
Verily, those who disbelieve in Allaah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allaah and His Messengers( by believing in Allaah and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying," we believe in Some but reject others" and wish to adopt a way in between.

They are in truth disbelievers.And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment. Q 4 vs 150-151

Sorry bro,I forgot to add NO.They have no proofs for what they are doing I mean.Thanks

Admission not offered yet,hmmm

tomakint: I have seen, read about what that wonderful name, JESUS has done in the life of myriads of souls but I am yet to hear or read of such testimonies about Prophet Muhammad, any lead?

Tomakint,where have you been? There's nothing special about the name 'Jesus'.There are other Jesus in the bible (Acts 13:6;Colossian 4:11;Deuteronomy 32:15).So all those miracles and testimonies you read about are nothing but deceit.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Kahf 18:110- Say (O Muhammad SAW):I am only a man like you.It has been inspired to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God i.e. Allah).So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord,let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord......Peace

BetaThings: Don't mind him

The Quran was transmitted to us by the Companions; The ahadeeth were transmitted by the companions
Yet they accept one and reject the other
The Prophet (SAW) is an example that we should follow as stated in the Quran
So how will they follow his example if there are no ahadeeth?
Can they make adhan without ahadeeth?

The very fact that these people try to teach people the Qur'an nullifies their stand
If they need to study it, then the Prophet must have taught it to people.
So who do we know what he taught them without ahadeeth?

These people just try to mislead the unsuspecting

Don't mind those Quraniyoons jare.They have proofs for what they are doing.May Allah(swt) in his mercy protects us from such.....Peace

Jazakumullah Khairan Brother Sino,interesting piece.May Allah reward your efforts.

Hesohjay: dis thread is so dull o...........ASUU WHY NOW 4 GUDNESS SAKE NA WA O!

Federal Government nko?

lamosaga: How long are we going to fold our arms and watch this our government jeopardize our future. I think a powerful protest needs to be organized next week in all states and at the same time wie marching to our various secretariat to show our grievances so all the governors can also step in to put an end to this strike. How can we achieve this?

It's easy to say,but difficult to perform.You heard about those students that had a rally in Imo state? What's the outcome?

Anvaller: On what premise is this ridiculous statement? Nothing wey I no go hear from fellow muslims. They confuse themselves even at the level of the so revered scholars and even when the Quran is clear and unambiguous.

So those hadiths are from revered scholars? Bro,if you are a quraniyoon it's your choice.

Or is it? Betathings? Are u referring to the God's revelation as the Shariah of old? Well Al Quran is not sharia OK? Sharia is a different thing entirely.Stop mixing things all up.

And ur thinking comes off more like the typical xtian beleif of old/versus new testament.Well may be I know why u said it, cos the Hadith is no different from the Bible,they are both mere narrations hence both characterized with consistent inconsistencies.

Different law to different people at different time.During the time of Moses(pbuh),somethings were made forbidden for the children of Israel.But when Isa(True Christ)[pbuh] came,he made lawful those things that were forbidden.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Al-Imran 3:50- And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Taurah and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you,and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord(Allah).So fear Allah and obey me..
Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is the Perfector of the deen.If I may ask,why don't you use stone to clean up after urinating as used by the prophets of the old? Why using water?

U need to be smartly consistent with the line of ur arguments because here u mentioned the children of Adam but do u not know that prohibition to marry our siblings came to existence as it was clearly revealed in the Quran? It wasn't just a narration from a chain report in a hadith. So that is very clear,U can not substitute mere narrations for the mighty revelations of the Almighty.May be u and I will never agree on this and its ok with me.

Can you point a verse from the Quran that supports rearing of dogs as pets? The story of People of the Cave,their dog was a watch/guard dog and maybe used for hunting[Surah Al-Kahf 18:18].
Allah says in Surah Al-Hashr 59:7 -And whatsoever the Messenger[Muhammad(pbuh)] gives you,take it;and whatsoever he forbids you,abstain from it.And fear Allah;verily,Allah is severe in punishment..
The prophet(pbuh)prohibts dogs as pets,he allowed guard dogs,so where are the hadiths contradicting the Quran?

Well if u think I only told u what I believe, how is that different from every other person including u here telling us what u believe? Tell me?

I did not call anyone sinner here,I simply referred to God's warning for anyone prohibiting what he the Almighty has never prohibited for mankind,so are u guilty of the warning?

But His Prophet(pbuh) prohibits such and the prohibition isn't against the Quran.Keep to your belief

And u said that the same Quran tells us that the Prophet is our perfect example. Well of course,no one is disputing that but why don't u go further to prove how that translates to that the prophet has the authority to make new revelations to overwrite God's, (I will be waiting for ur proves) he is a deliverer of "the message", God did not arrogate to ANY prophet the authority to make their own law.The duty and or responsibility of the prophet is clearly defined in the Quran.If u do not know,go and find out.

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) doesn't speak on his own desire[Surah An-Najm 53:3].And no authentic hadith will negate or contradicts the Quran.Allah says in Surah Al-Anfal 8:20 -O you believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger[Muhammad(pbuh)] and turn not away from him while you are hearing.
Allah also says in Surah An-Nisa 4:80 -He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad SAW),has indeed obeyed Allah,but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (O Muhammad SAW) as a watcher over them.......Peace

olanyte: salam, this hadith does not point to the allowing rearing of dogs it only telling us to be kind to animals.

Salam,read my post very slowly.....Peace

olasman0: Lmao,I dint mean curse lyk dat,more of yab....tryin to tell u to always be sure of ur info b4 u post nd mislead us..I no fit dey curse 4 dis crucial tyme bro

Lol,better.

Mintayo: @Op,pls don't be deceived by whatever you are told here...they will only tell you what their book says which is contrary to what Jesus says(that alone is desecration).
Hold Jesus at His Word,believe what Jesus said about Himself not what 'some bias' people say!
There are so many things muslims say abt Jesus that if it were to be other way round,it wld v been something else!
Again i say,hold Jesus of the Bible at His Word...dnt let anyone decieve you.
Saying that Jesus is just an ordinary messenger is desecrating enough!

God bless you.

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Msgamble: Reward who exactly? Is it for qouting 'man formulate hadith' which shia,ahmadis etc discredited, back up ur claims with ur 'khalifas-written holy book' nt unsource or less approved write up by man lyk u..since Dog n Pig is dirty(as u claimed), why did ur allah created them or was it error in creating it?

This guy needs brain check-up seriously.Do you know the story of people of the cave?

Dizney: When your curses prowl around and have no inn in my domain, they will surely come back to face you...PHLEGM WALD.

Olasman,can you see? Dizney is flowing with anointing.

maclatunji: I created a thread for him earlier. Sorry, I did not post the link https://www.nairaland.com/1414195/he-muslim-veterinarian-he-keep

I have so many things on my mind.

@Lanrexlan, good of you to try to help.

May Allah ease your tasks bro Mac.

olasman0: patiently waitin...I go too curse yuh on thursday

Lolz,curse him? Easy bro,don't curse Dizney oo.He may be right na

Donsteffi: sm1 wit 214 in jamb nd 56% in post jamb nd wnts 2 studi architecture choosing futa as first choice.....cn he qain admission......

The aggregate is 54.75% and according to Tuljaking's source(who knows if he's correct),architecture is 60%.All is well bro

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Being a vet Doctor isn't a sin because you are rending service to animals.We learnt in the hadith of our beloved prophet(pbuh).
Sahih Bukhari 4:538,Narrated Abu Huraira Allah's Apostle said,A prostitute was forgiven by Allah,because passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst,she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it.So,Allah forgave her because of that.
Also The Prophet was asked if acts of charity even to the animals were rewarded by God.He replied:Yes,there is a reward for acts of charity to every beast alive.(Narrated by Abu Huraira,Bukhari,3:322.Also Muslim, Vol. 4; Hadith No. 2244.).
So if a prostitute was forgiven because she rendered a service to a dog,then there's no sin rendering services to animals.
So rendering service to dogs isn't forbidden but keeping of dogs is forbidden except such dogs are meant security purposes.
Sahih Bukhari 3:515,Narrated Abu Huraira Allah's Apostle said:Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily,unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle.Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet,unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms,or for hunting.

Narrated Abu Hazim from Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,A dog for guarding cattle or for hunting.. And Allah knows best.....Peace

dridowu: Salam to my brothers and sisters in Islam, i dont know if this is allow in this thread but pardon me. I am a Muslim (not religion conscious) Practising Veterinarian (3yrs to present), i will like to know if Islam permit keeping of pets esp Dogs and moreover most of the animals that i treat on daily basis 90% are dogs, and i still have in mind having my own personal dogs as time goes on. Pls advise me according to the religion.
Once more pardon for posting this here and i will appreciate it if you can direct me to the question and thread.
Salam

Walaikum Salam,post your question here.
www.nairaland.com/1242169/ask-questions-islam-muslims-here

Atheism is, in a broad sense,the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.In a narrower sense,atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.Most inclusively,atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
Atheism is contrasted with theism,which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.
The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος(atheos), meaning "without god(s)", used as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshipped by the larger society.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Empiree: Hello lanrexlan,
I don't think you need to stress yourself with this folks. It might be a good idea if you ignore them sometimes. . Op questions and concerns have been properly responded to. These guys you are debating/arguing with knowingly derailed the topic. If you scroll up you wil see what am talking about. I think you need to ignore them. Truth stands clear from falsehood

Thanks bro,Salam alaikum

NL member: It isn't a trial for anything. It is simply a scam by a man that wanted to be revered but unfortunately your fear of hell and punishment will not let you see this.

What kind of trial is that anyway?

A trial that leads people to believe in other gods apart from allah(lat,manat and uzat) all through the period before the satanic verses were corrected? Does that even sound right to you?



I dey vex for una because your sheikh, maclatunji declared that non muslims are not allowed to post threads disproving islam in your section so i think its wrong for muslims to post threads disproving christianity on this section.

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NL member: That's what I have been saying all day. That Muhammed spoke and shaytan allegedly threw falsehood into his speech. The falsehood which shaytan threw was the satanic verses and these verses were changed later on by muhammed under the claim that he was influenced by shaytan when he made the comment about worshipping goddesses.

I have explained everything to you,Allah abolished satan's falsehood and establishes his revelations.It's a trial for those whose hearts is a disease of hypocrisy.

How am I derailing the thread? I related my first post on this thread to your topic

You are derailing,my question is Satan or Serpent:Who was cursed? and not satanic verses you hear,stop derailing.....Peace

NL member: Seriously @lanre, read the wikipedia link and learn about the satanic verses, its obvious you have never heard of them

Lolz,I have heard about it a long time ago from your mentors and they are all exposed.....Peace

NL member: That refutation came about AFTER muhammed told the meccans toworship three godesses,the initial verse was a clear instruction topractice polytheism;

There are numerous accounts reporting the incident, which differ in the construction and detail of the narrative, but they may be broadly collated to produce a basic account. The different versions of the story are all traceable to one single narrator Muhammad ibn Ka'b, who was two generations removed from biographer Ibn Ishaq. In its essential form, the story reports that Muhammad longed to convert his kinsmen and neighbors of Mecca to Islam. As he was reciting Sūra an-Najm,[3] considered a revelation by the angel Gabriel, Satan tempted him to utter the following lines after verses 19 and 20:
Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-‘Uzzá
and Manāt, the third, the other?
These are the exalted gharāniq, whose intercession is hoped for.
Allāt, al-'Uzzā and Manāt were three goddesses worshipped by the Meccans.

Source; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses

Allah exposed you again.Allah says in the glorious Quran in
Surah Al-Hajj 22:52-54 -Never did We send a Messenger or a Prophet before you,but when he did recite the revelation or narrated or spoke,Shaitan (Satan) threw (some falsehood) in it.
But Allah abolishes that which Shaitan (Satan) throws in.Then Allah establishes His Revelations.And Allah is All-Knower,All-Wise
That He (Allah) may make what is thrown in by Shaitan (Satan) a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease (of hypocrisy and disbelief) and whose hearts are hardened. And certainly,the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers,etc.) are in an opposition far-off (from the truth against Allah's Messenger and the believers).And that those who have been given knowledge may know that it (this Quran) is the truth from your Lord, and that they may believe therein, and their hearts may submit to it with humility.
And verily,Allah is the Guide of those who believe,to the Straight Path.
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If Muhammed could be tempted by shaytan to recite wrong verses that time then he definitely messed up some other part of the quran.

No part of the Quran is messed up.Allah says in Surah Al-Kahf 18:1 -All the praises and thanks be to Allah,Who has sent down to His slave (Muhammad SAW) the Book (the Quran),and has not placed therein any crookedness..
[b]N B[/b]Stop derailing my thread please......Peace

pointblank 321: Can you try this out as well:

https://www.nairaland.com/1412339/angel-afraid

I will reply to your thread ASAP in sha Allah.You run away from this,no problem.

NL member: @lanraxslam,

To answer your question,it was actually muhammed that was cursed by shaytan when he 'revealed' the verses in suratul najm (also known as the satanic verses) asking him to tell the meccans to worship the goddesses al-lat,al mannat and al uzzat along with worshipping allah.

And after some time when muhammed discovered that his wayo of using meccan gods to entice meccans to islam would not work,muhammed angrily decided to claim that shaytan had misled him to say those three meccan goddesses should be worshipped and that there is only one god and muhammed is his messenger, la ilaha illalah .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses

Lies again.Allah was refuting the idol worshippers.The 'Alleged satanic verses'.Allah says in
Surah An-Najm 53:19-23 -Have you then considered Al-Lat,and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs).
And Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs),the other third?
Is it for you the males and for Him the females?
That indeed is a division most unfair!
They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers,for which Allah has sent down no authority.They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire,whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!


The explanations of those verses.
Allah asked the idolators,do you choose female offspring for Allah and give preference to yourselves with the males If you made this division between yourselves and the created,it would be a division most unfair! Meaning,it would be an unfair and unjust division.How is it then that you make this division between you and Allah, even though this would be foolish and unjust,if you made it between yourselves and others? Allah the Exalted refutes such innovated lies,falsehood and atheism they invented through worshipping the idols and calling them gods,They are but names which you have named -- you and your fathers,(of your own desire).
Guidance has already comes to them(arab pagans) from Allah through prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and yet they still worship the idols.That's the simple explanations.....Peace