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FastestGirl:
Female Condom

Hydronium:
Been having this dilemma for sometime now. Deciphering the truth behind ladies' mannerisms and behavior is getting increasingly difficult.
So, beyond romantic love, how does one find out if a girl truly loves him?

emmaodet:
I get ur points but you can't compare emotional investment to financial one.

The reason why most guys are struggling today is bcus the financial demand of the society has overwhelmed them and that is why it's spilling over to the ladies to pick up the tab.

Imagine if all it takes to get married is just for a guy to have One room apartment - it means 98% of guys who are matured for marriage presently will all get married. You will also be surprised that even the so called dead beat dads are not deadbeats after all.

The Taste and appetite of the modern woman is Extremely high and only a sizeable percentage of guys can only meet such ridiculous demands.

You will see a guy earning 100-150k per month and out of it the woman wants him to buy a car, buy land and build house, monthly upkeep, family events, house rent, school fees, yearly family shopping etc

But that's the point of the traditional system. It's not same-balanced. If you provide, she will take care of your kids. Shikena. Are you forgetting that you're supposed to take care of the woman? That's how God designed it na. You give her everything as her protector, in return for her faithfulness and fertility. Be a man!

You make money, and she helps you allocate and manage it. Why are you complaining against the natures of a woman? She's the homemaker.

There is a reason babymama is growing and a large percentage of men are not married even though they want to.

emmaodet:
Exactly my thought ubunja.
Though at the beginning, men shot themselves on the leg by shifting the job of providing and protecting on themselves while shifting the job of maintaining the home/family to women.
Where protecting by man and running the home by woman are all service based jobs and are Measurable and Reasonable, PROVIDING is where all the Scams are because it can not be quantified.
When the agreement was made, cost of living and standard of living were extremely Low.
A man builds a hut, goes to farm or hunt or fish while the woman stays at home to take care of the child. It was all Simple and Easy.
But unfortunately for men, they never knew Relationship/Marriage are just another form of Business that is always/regularly been affected by INFLATION because rendering personal Services is hardly if not affected by Inflation.
If the men of old knew about Inflation, none of them would have agreed to be Providers, they didn't see the Future.
From living in a hut, inflation sets in... To living in one room face you and face me ... To Room and Parlour self contain... To Flat ... To duplex etc yet the service the woman is to render neither changed, rather reducing.
As the pressure keeps increasing on men, nobody deems it fit to add to the women side by instructing them to instead of cooking for the Family, they should cook for the community.

Wawu. Now a providing man and a nurturing woman is no more nature's dictate.

I thought it was our natural makeup naa.

We can observe it in our animal relatives.

Why do you get mad that 'men's roles' are being ripped from them?

Are women not acting like men now? Doing everything?

You pipu and your confucius philosophy.

You're soo inadequate to teach and ignorant of what you want to speak on.

I thought women are rejecting their traditional roles, how come you're saying nothing has changed about their roles?

The majority of men are the ONLY ones here who've changed nada. Providing can be quantified. Nurture can't. You can see money, calculate how much you bought, houses you built, etc. That is not comparable with emotional sacrifice and burden. You can't measure feelings, care, love, guilt, happiness. Physical and material objects cannot be equated with abstract concepts (which the woman has been groomed to provide.)

Cook for community ko, cook for nation ni.

MuttleyLaff:
What! You're capable of speaking and/or understand Yoruba. Wow

1/ What type of woman, is Sarah, the swivelling neck, lol upon which an Abrahamic head was supported on?

See, you sef. You're laughing. Swivelling neck and Abrahamic head. I no hear again.

2/ What type of a woman, is Zipporah, who circumcised her and her husband, Moses' first Gershom, then touched the foreskin to Moses' feet?
3/ What type of a woman, is Abigail, that made a king of Israel quickly sought after her upon hearing she's become widowed?
4/ What type of a woman, is Rahab, the Canaanite woman living in Jericho, who hid the two men Joshua sent out as spies?
5/ What type of a woman, is Mary, the mother of Jesus, and when she propelled Him, to before His time, start quickly His ministry?

So after you had finished answering all five questions above, do you still seem to think, there's no unity between all the superlatives I listed and the last qualier: virtuous, hmm?

You say what it means. I honestly cannot even go into musing about that rn. You listed Rahab alongside those women. She's a prostitute.

So, I can conclude then that people like Amber Rose, Mia Khalifa, and the likes can be virtuous women? That sounds good to my hearing.

What to your understanding and exactly do you think the word virtuous means, lol. I am 10000% sure, quite a lot, know the word virtous, but never looked up its meaning from a dictionary, lol.

Of course, from Proverbs 31:10-31 above you can make a helpful observation to see that it is talking about the character of a woman, and this in terms of her strength, resourcefulness, intelligence, power, boldness, strength, efficiency, ability, capability etcetera

drmikeadams:
me and u know that ur lying

2buffagain:
Leave am.
Most Women talk a lot and say whatever to make themselves feel good for positive self perception.

When it comes time to hold them to their word, that is when they will be looking for a man to blame and push the responsibility to. No be today.

2buffagain:
You talk too much. Answer simple question.

Can you empty your retirement account for that child that is not yours in the case of an emergency?

Charleys:
I didn't want to quote this cuz its long but let me do this so you'll know where I'm getting at.

A woman meets a man on vacation, they meet and flirt and have sex without a condom.

She goes home from her vacation then a few weeks later her moderately successful boyfriend proposes marriage. She accepts, not long after she realizes that she's pregnant. She's certain it's the guy on Vacations child and not her fiance's.

She doesn't tell her fiance about the other guy and he assumes it's his child and is overjoyed. They marry, and he raises the child as his own. But three years in one of the wife's girlfriends tell the husband about the wife's affairs, he suspects because the child doesn't look like him, he has a paternity test done and discover the child isn't his.

The wife has found the child's biological father on social media but hasn't initiated contact with him since the vacation.



Who should be obligated to take care of the child?

luminouz:
I checked your profile when I saw this epistle. Needed to know your mindset. Now I do.

I wasted my time engaging you. I won't make the mistake again

2buffagain:
Leoniine all that your talk is beans and showed you to be even more selfish.

After all the words I ask you this simple question, Can you go into heavy debt for a child that is not your own?

luminouz:
I know the guy,I don't know you.

My comments were based on what I expected from a matured guy like him; making salient points without insults. You didn't read any insults from me,did you?

Could you please get a hold of your emotions? You're bleeding all over the place. If you're a single mom,the battle for self-worth or acceptance is not online,with faceless entities. Its in the real world and the value you add.

2buffagain:
Do, pray tell, enlighten us on what "positives" could come out of a situation like this.

apiski:
Great. You did a good job, but you can do better by acknowledging Chimamanda Adichie.

Charleys:
This is not about men but let me ask you, can you marry a man with a kid, knowing fully well your children will never inherit anything when they grow up because there are others.

Well I know women do this so I can't ask this question just forget it.

Charleys:
If I do not love the lady, YES

Lilbest3:
Lmao why is your estrogen leaking out of your body?

This one really pained you. You know, it's very easy to stand afar and label people

but the moment I related it to your parents (whose generation you've been vilifying) you went berserk lol.
Are you really asking me about anti man laws in the west?
Look, in France it is a crime for a man to seek for paternity test and even if it turns out that the child is not his he's still forced to pay child support for 18 years in majority of the western countries.
A woman has the right to choose whether to be a mother or not but a father has no such right. A woman can steal your sperm and tie you down for 18 to 26 years, taking most of your income without your any form of consent from you.

Lol. This is your proof of bias against MEN? Like, dude, we are talking about more than three billion people here. The 'West' is the only place you run to, all the time, yank their realities, worlds, etc and try to project it on a Global scale. Why aren't you bringing examples from your own backyard, huh? Why aren't you citing poor, underdeveloped, third world nations?

The banning of paternity test in France is not a bias against Western men and is an entire argument on its own.

Check the statistics below and then tell me how things are being run in an unfair way towards men. (And one time you're arguing for Western men, another time you're against them it seems to me. I remember now, too, you ignored this particular question I asked: Are men being emasculated or going MGTOW in the West?)

How will you explain women in poor countries whose values are attached to their fertility? And deadbeat men who run away from fathering a pregnancy they helped brought about? Isn't that why single mothers abound? Since you say women can choose and men can't.

A woman stealing a man's sperm --- personal negligence. And how rampant is it? What are the statistics? But if she uses it to make a child, well, duh, it's still your DNA that helped formed it and the court isn't going to ignore that.

90% of the schools are run by leftists. Not just the school, the whole mainstream is leftist. YouTube, Twitter, Google, almost all the news media are leftist.

Researches showed that women are almost as violent as men. Around 60:40
Women kill more spouse and children than men so your claim of men being more violent is just not enough reason for any these other than outright gender bias.

You think prostitution is oppression against women lol.
I know you people don't have enough sense and mental strength to take responsibility.
Look, women go into prostitution willingly. When men have no where to go, they turn to crime and women go into prostitution it is just as simple as that.
Take for example University students, the boys go into yahoo while the girls go into prostitution. Nobody forces women to prostitute their body, so explain how this is oppression.

Abortion? How is it oppression? Women even have rights to kill innocent unborn children in some countries how is that oppression?

Child bride? Have you seen the male children in the North where Those child brides are rampant? They're completely left to rot on their own. Some risk their lives hanging on trailers transporting cows and onions to come and scavenge dung hills for mental.

Lol you talk about rape in war? Seriously? Are you fúcking serious ? How many millions of men get slaughtered in wars compared to a few women that get raped in wars? Before women get raped and captured, all their men must be dead already.

People deserve to be treated fairly but we can't all get equal treatment, it will defeat the goal of hard work.

Ahh, I see you're learning, and restructuring your views bit by bit. The is the second time I see you picking something from our debate here. Yes. People deserve to be treated fairly. On the basis that we are humans, and at birth there is no superiority/inferiority. Note, I didn't say no differences. But just no discriminatory attitude based on one's haves or lack. Fairness is not getting handed things on a platter. I explained it to you already. Go through my first lengthy response. I even talked about hierarchy, and order. No equal treatment and throwing previous contributions away. But access to equal opportunities to prove ourselves. You never know what a black man can do if he's not given a level ground to play. And the bias that works against the black man (and women) is NOT due to what they lack. Not due to zero intelligence. Not due to a dearth of mental strength and fortitude. Not due to low capabilities and skills. No. It's just a social, unconscious hatred or shun. Not based on the true natures.

Lol. So you see? You can drag our ancestors and call them oppressors and barbarians but immediately I related the narrative to your forebears you saw your stupidity and accuse my people. Have you ever seen me talking bad about our ancestors? You are the one who claims your forefathers were animalistic barbarians, sexual predators and aggressors and that your foremothers were helpless weaklings and sexual objects why are you now going on the defensive? So you never knew all these while that you were denigrating your parents?

luminouz:
I don't seem to understand your criticism laced with insults bro.
They gave their personal opinions, why not respect that instead of calling them names. It almost seems as if you want every man here to automatically love single moms.

Charleys:
She chooses to be a single mother.

Charleys:
We are all judged by our past.

If you graduated with a pass, no one cares if you had financial issues or trekked to school, or you had to spend time doing odd jobs so you could pay your fees, all they see is your result. We are all a product of our past. In fact you're where you are because of the decisions you've made in life.

lefulefu:
they are scared that the baby daddy might still be secretly smashing the single mom

2buffagain:
The difference is, if all goes well, childless women won't have to see their exes all the time and the ex has no legitimate reason of coming to where she lives.

But in the case of single mums, if all goes well, they have to see their exes in their living space quite frequently and also interact with them about an element of their conjoinment (aka the child) every single time. Everytime she sees that child, she remembers the dick that put it in her and he is always there, and both ex and child are always there, refreshing that memory so it cannot be a distant and forgotten memory.

This triggers unneccesary memories, and before you know whats up, she might just prove herself a fool maybe when she and her main maga are arguing.

Akanoaaa:
Cuz its likely for the single mother to bleep her baby daddy again

Sirvingeo:
[s]Single mothers are mostly promiscuous and have high tendency falling in love with the wrong men.[/s]

SHOPPERS:
Life is not binary.

Kemi might just be a cool babe from a good family that is just stubborn but also very loyal to this guy. She might even be much more classy than the Ore.

Martinez39:
"if you are a full time house wife and your husband is working hard, footing all the bills and taking care of you and your children, would it be wrong or bad for you to make him a sandwich, respect him as the man of house, and do the chores?"