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TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:12pm On May 10, 2019
IamD18:
If you calm down, you'll get to understand that we are almost saying the same thing.

I'm not even disputing these your facts, they are all true, but you lots seems not to get my point herein.

>Danny is selfish--Fact!
>It will be abnormal for Sansa to trust Danny. A queen, her brother, a king, bent the knee for, despite knowing what her father, the mad king, did to Ned's father. You just don't expect Sansa to trust her immediately---Fact!
>Danny did not fight for the North, she fought WITH them to save the LIVING(Herself inclusive)--Fact!
>95% of Sansa haters hates her because she's not getting along with Danny. Nothing else.
>Danny is not a smart politician, smart politicians don't love, because you can't love and be wise at the same time, and when you start lacking the wisdom, you'll start loosing the political game.
>And lastly, whatever it is Danny gave and lost in that fight, she did it for the throne. Period!
It's remarkable how you turn personal opinion to 'facts'. Keep it up.

Btw, if Dany was selfish as you claim, or even loves the Throne more than she loves Jon, she would have made an attempt on his life by now. Dany also has no reason to like the Starks as well. They conspired with the Lannisters and the Baratheons to end her family.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 5:04pm On May 09, 2019
Seun:
The mad queen nonsense.
The matter tire me o.

Compared to other rulers on the show, Dany seems to be the one who actually listens to advisors. Not Robb Stark. Not Stannis (if you discount Melisandre). Not Bobby B. Not Balon Greyjoy. Definitely not Legends like Cersei and Joffery. Yet, Dany is arguably the most powerful monarch on the show.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 12:53pm On May 09, 2019
Cybertext:
There's no plothole there, We have all seen (reality or movie) where bullets will be shot at an individual and none will hit the target close by and might hit a stranger far away from the scene...
Not a plothole to me also, more like plot armour. Yeah, Drogon is the strongest dragon but a lot of things about that scene seem off. It was well criticised.

They should have made Rhaegal die in the last episode. More plausible that way.

Meanwhile, Anti-Dany Brigade, I hail una. The way you guys always find something to flog the Dragon Queen with, both real and imagined, is legendary.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 4:36pm On May 08, 2019
Fadedvoices2:
Which season and episode again?
That should be s02e09
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 10:24am On May 08, 2019
There's something cool about seeing someone powerful in the show talked down by someone far below him. Especially when the person below realises that the 'powerful' person needs him. Their lines almost always involve the c-word.

Like Bronn in this episode ("You boys are a pair of gold-plated coonts")

Or Smalljon Umber to the psychotic Ramsay ("Your father was a coont")

Or Titan's Bastard to Daenerys ("Show me your coont, let me see if it's what fighting for")

My favorite is still by the Hound to that little shit Joffery during the Battle of the Blackwater. ("Fook the Kingsguard, Fook the City, Fook the King")
The way he said that in the presence of everyone including the Kingsguard and Gold Cloaks without anyone confronting him put Sandor Clegane in my GoT Hall of Fame.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 4:53pm On May 07, 2019
The way the Anti-Dany Brigade play down Dany's role in the Great War is laughable though. She allowed them to mine Dragonglass when NO KNEE had been bent. She could have remained comfy in Dragonstone (shey, Jon said wights can't swim) and waited for the NK to destroy the North and Kings Landing. Seven Hells, she could easily have gone back to Mereen.

The attitude of the ADB mirrors real life. Not every help you render is appreciated even when the person is actually in need. Give someone who has only a pair of shoes an extra pair, you might hear things like:

"Who told him I need the shoes, sef?"

"He is giving me shoes as if I'm suffering, eh?

Don't be surprised if the person makes the statement while rocking the same shoes.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 4:36pm On May 07, 2019
Isomerizm:
I spoke from Greyworm's POV. Greyworm doesn't know all these. He doesn't know how important Qyburn is to Cersie. As far as Greyworm was concerned at that moment of beheading, Qyburn was simply an old, defenseless man, who doubled as the queen's hand and spokesperson. His ire that time would be directed at Cersie and Gregor.
You do know Grey Worm has killed "a baby, snatched from its mother's arms" at least once before, right?

I think the reasons he held back were

(a) Tyrion could have faced the repercussions since he was definitely within range.

(b) he was not commanded to
We don't really have much insight into Worm's personality, so we don't know why he didn't break rank and act out of grief.

Life of a Soldier
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 9:42am On May 07, 2019
Sansa has always been envious. I can't forget the look on her face when her father's 'bastard', Jon, was made King in s06.

TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 10:22pm On May 06, 2019
GrabHisBalls:
Cersei lacks empathy. That isn't a characteristic of a good leader. She loves herself so much that she would rather trade her people that she lives contrary to what we see Jon do. Always giving himself up that people live. Would you want Cercei to rule you if you were a citizen of Winterfell?
"Ha! The people. You think I care?"
-Cersei (s02)

Scary thing is that she's even worse in the books. That woman is a real she-devil.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 3:28pm On May 06, 2019
Cinderallagirl:
The way am seeing this show eh, the writer dont want it to be predictable that why one of Dany dragon died, they want to make Dany look vulnerable, but even with Dany depleted army she is still going to kick cersie ass.
Exactly what went through my mind. Two dragons against any army would be a smoke-over.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 2:27pm On May 06, 2019
meforkene:
Someone should please help me slap Dany, Drogon and Rhaegal. They were all high up in the sky and couldn't spot Euron's ships. Rhaegal deserves that death and Drogon doesn't deserve wings anymore. He should be walking with ground troops from now on.
That plothole alone is wide enough to bury all the dead from ep03. I know peeps would say Euron was hiding in the rocks, but if you truly want to fire something that high from that angle, you have to come out to the open.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 9:45am On May 06, 2019
IamD18:
Lol, who do you think will be on that throne? Cersei? Not after her atrocities. Danny? Not when Sansa and Arya are aware that Jon is a Targaryen, just like people have died saving her, she will die after saving the seven kingdoms in the hands of wicked Cersei.

Who's then left? Jon? Sansa? Gendry? Who do you think will be there, when you know Jon don't give two shiiits about crown grin
You're right, the options are few. If the events play out as you say, we are left with Tyrion, Cersei's only brother who hasn't taken any Kingsguard vows and Gendry, Bobby B's son legitimized by Daenerys.
It may go down to democracy as fecta suggested. Anything but Sansa.


I can't really recall, is Sansa still legally Tyrion's wife? Cause if she is, she has a claim if the Imp dies, no matter how depressing that sounds.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 9:22am On May 06, 2019
IamD18:
At the end, neither Cersei or Danny will be on that throne, maybe Sansa will, with her husband Tyrion.
grin grin

You want me to drink poison, ba? Abeggi, she's not even in line.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 9:17am On May 06, 2019
echibuogwu:
I mean they have Bran they could have just tell him to do his thing and give them Cersei plans, they could have seen this whole thing coming but No, they didn’t and I still don’t understand how Missandei was captured, only Missandei.
An omniscient plot device like Bran creates more plot holes for the writers than the plot twists he was intended to make. A similar reason why JK Rowling had to ditch the Time Turner and the Marauder's Map at some point in the Harry Potter series. Bran sees the past and present everywhere in the realms of Men. The best thing they should have done was to make him seek solitude in a big tree like the previous 3ER.

The Missandei issue is surprising too. She was born on an island so she most likely could swim to safety. She was probably knocked unconscious when she went below deck during the attack.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 9:00am On May 06, 2019
Five Of My Previously Held Views Re-Affirmed By Episode 04

>>Sansa Is An Envious Coont

Apologies if you're a Sansa fan, but it is what it is. Her envy mirrors that of Cersei towards Margaery (Maegery was living the Queen life Cersei used to want). Envy, not Hatred, has always been in the little birdshit's eyes ever since the Dragon Queen set foot in Winterfell. Which of Dany's exploits can she actually match? Ruling a Khalasar (s01 not even that of s06), leading said Khalasar through the Red Waste, conquering Qarth, Astapor, Mereen etc, ruling Mereen, playing an integral part in defeating the Undead. All they have in common was being in abusive relationships, even Dany managed to turn that in her favor. She should pipe down a bit. Daenerys helped her defend her beloved territory, when she was sitting in her armchair down in the crypts. Show some respect.


>>Impulsiveness Will Ultimately Cost Dany The Throne

We all knew marching down South just after the Great War was a mistake. Seven Hells, even Hot Pie could have advised as much. For someone who's rooted for her from s01e01, I was screaming 'No, No, No!'.
It's odd though. She was patient about conquering Westeros back in s05 when KL was in the hands of the fanatics. I am guessing being near yet so far from the Throne is bringing out the impatience in her. Where's Jorah when you need him?

>>Jon Snow Knows Nothing

Ygritte was right 100% about this. For crying out loud, she's an uncivilized wilding yet she surmised as much about the White Wolf. Telling his secret to Arya and Sansa is another notable addition to his Dumb Decisions Hall of Shame.


>>What's The Deal With Jaime?

We'll never get this guy. He's just like R Kelly. He can sing the best gospel music you've ever heard, then moments later he's pissing on an underage i n an x-rated video. I always wished he'll settle down with Brienne and remain neutral in the Last War. The chances of fulfilling that Valonqar prophecy not looking up at the moment.


>> Decimation of the Tyrion Character Is A Crime Against Humanity

Ever since D & D took the pen and Tyrion started growing a beard, things have been going downhill. This is supposed to be like the cleverest men in the 7K yet he keeps making one schoolboy error after the other. Making a dumb pact with the Wise Masters, preventing Daenerys from smoking the Red Keep, formulating the plan to capture a wight which led to loss of a dragon, trusting Cersei because she's preggo (which he never did when she had 3 kids). Even his witty remarks are no longer funny. Yes, all clever people get it wrong once in a while, but he has been on a roll. They need to fix that. It's hard watching a hitherto brilliant character looking like a cowering, moping drunkard everytime, especially if you are a fan like me.

P. S: Cersei is a shrewd villain. Her ambush of Dany's fleet and her plan to fill up the Red Keep with civilians were smart from her POV. I hope she dies a painful death.
R. I. P. Missandei of Naath. I'll miss seeing your face on the show. Who knows when the next Fast and Furious airs?
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 11:46am On May 04, 2019
Now that Jaime has kept his promise to fight for the living, will he join Dany's Army to fight against Cersei or will he 'ride into the sunset' with Brienne?
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 6:29pm On May 03, 2019
JhyMedex:
Well said Sir...

After being on dis thread for a good part of 5yrs...I've come to undastand we may watch d same tins but process dem differently...I try as much as I can not to engage in lengthy and fruitless haggling...

Bt seriously hw do peeps say "Dany was fytin 4 herself not 4 d north" wit a straight face...
grin

Haba I tire o..

She had everytin she needed to win d war against the whitewalkers..

1. The dragon glass dey used to decimate d wights were mined from dragon stone her seat of power in westeros..

2. She had ova 30000 dothraki screamers..

3. 5000 unsullied left..3 full grown dragons..

4. a powrful armada n some of d wisest advisers in d 7 kingdoms...

the north stood no chance witx her..Jon made dt abundantly clear on numerous occasions bt seems some pple will rather be selectively blind..

Lets not 4get she has forces at Yunkai..Astapor and Meereen to call up on..

TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 11:33pm On May 01, 2019
solomonbrown64:
....The bolded confused me; I really don't know if you are trying to be funny or you are serious. I hope it's the former.

...Now you are saying Bran saw how the night king would die before it happened which is silly. My point was that; why did Arya scream when the job should have been done silently. She clearly knows that she has nothing against the NK's prowess so why reveal yourself in the first place except to carry the plan of the writers. If she wanted all along to try that her little trick on somebody else, Alright and good but not one as experienced like the NK. How was she able to pass undetected? No answer. Surely, what you wrote up there couldn't be the answer.

.....Her screaming could have earned a slap from the NK while in the air too and that could have killed her. That's a possibility too so hoping that the she would be caught and perform her trick would have seem stupid. Her move looked like a plan but it wasn't really, it something that could work or might not have worked. That wasn't good enough for some of us to take out a supernatural being. It's just how it is bro.
Chillax, here's how it was done... grin grin

TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 11:27pm On May 01, 2019
Culled from Wiki of Thrones>>

Melisandre is the 3rd person to die of old age

This is just a random detail, but it seemed to be fun, so I have added
it to the list. Game Of Thrones is known for the way it kills its
characters and people can get killed in some unexpected ways in the
show.

What’s unusual is that a character survives long enough to die of old
age and so far we have seen only two people who died of old age in
the show: Hoster Tully and Aemon Targaryen. Now Melisandre joins
this illustrious list of people who managed to stay alive in the show
and die a natural death.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 11:09pm On May 01, 2019
About that episode 3...

>>Now, you might remember just that one Game of Thrones episode that
got a lot of hatred. It was Season 5, episode 6, “Unbowed, Unbent,
Unbroken”, which is infamously remembered for the Sansa Stark
marriage scene and it is the lowest ranked Game of Thrones episode
ever, standing in at a weak 57% on Rotten Tomatoes. “The Long Night”
now has sunk to 75% at Rotten Tomatoes. While this is not as bad as
57%, it still makes the episode the lowest ranked one since Season 5,
and the second lowest ranked Game of Thrones episode, ever. After
“The Long Night” we have “The Bear and the Maiden Fair”, at 77%.

Fans had many complaints with “The Long Night”, the biggest of which
was that it was too dark to comprehend, speaking in terms of lighting.
Many fans were also disappointed that Arya was the one to kill the
Night King and that it seemed too easy for a villain with such an
elaborate set-up to be killed so easily.

This episode also is a record low for Miguel Sapochnik, Game of
Thrones’ speciality battle episodes director, who usually has very high
ranks with his episodes. It’s also sort of a shame because Game of
Thrones has a whopping 22 episodes that are rated at 100%. >>

https://wikiofthrones.com/24324/long-night-lowest-ranked-game-of-thrones-episode-since-season-5/?taim&fbclid=IwAR08uGKU9QFzVzVeuFYNrAvQEF60C0WGi_DtybCZAwFqk2WIue4l6yyJqQ8

P. S: Rotten Tomatoes aggregates the reviews of critics and gives its score. My major issue with ep. 3 is the lighting. That was effed up.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 5:23pm On May 01, 2019
meforkene:
They've now been telling you Sansa is the smartest person in the 7 kingdoms, you don't want to listen until she deciphers and implements all the strategies to win the war. You go begin cry. hehehe
In the night before the battle of Bastards, Sansa told Jon she knows nothing about wars and strategies. But given the manner things have been going for some time now, I won't be surprised if the showrunners turn her into the female version of Julius Caesar before the season runs out.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 1:50pm On May 01, 2019
The theory of Arya wearing a WW's face seems far fetched to me. Sure she has powers and is an ex-Faceless Man, but the WWs are undead definitely not human. Except if she has perfected the art of stopping her heart from beating or her body warmth, which is the way WW easily detect human presence (implied by Old Nan in the books).

That was simply a sneak attack. It seemed desperate and not likely to work, but the NK underestimated her, similar to the manner the giant did with Lyanna (classic foreshadowing).

The only snag in this sneak attack theory is that the godswood was apparently empty. She might have been lurking somewhere off-screen though.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 10:39pm On Apr 30, 2019
vetrovialMan:
But the guy get swags mehn
Dunno about you, but I was singing Wiz Khalifa's "We Dem Boyz" as he and his boys were bouncing towards Bran.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 9:43pm On Apr 30, 2019
Isomerizm:
Don't tell me you interpreted that 'Winterfell is yours' as 'We humbly surrender the North to you, to rule for life'.
How exactly do you interpret it?


Jon has surrendered. He was the King in the North and bending the knee on behalf of the entire North. During Aegon's Conquest, it was only Torrhen Stark's knee that mattered. Sansa making that statement was to make it seem she had a say-so in the matter. Nobody really cares whether she grumbles about it or not.

The trailer for ep04 implies that the North will get behind Dany in her fight for the Iron Throne. Sansa can always find a private place to cry in Winterfell (there are lots of those).
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 7:19pm On Apr 30, 2019
Ksslib:
To understand what really happened here, we all have to go back to the very First Law of Thermodynamics which states that --- Energy can never be created nor destroyed but can only be converted from one form to another.
This your post is gold. grin grin

Lord of Light go find you oh
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 7:15pm On Apr 30, 2019
Isomerizm:
Was there a pre-signed treaty that, when the war finally passed over, Sansa would hand over the North to her, or would be divested of the right to fight for the North's sovereignty?

It wasn't even as if the war was against the North. It was against the living. The North just happened to be the initial war zone, so consequently, Dany fought for survival, not essentially for the North
"Your Grace, Winterfell is yours"
I think those were Sansa's exact words in the presence of everyone. She keeps deceiving herself she has a say in the matter. Going back on her words will make her a Lady of no honor. The best she can do is whine and grumble, which I must admit, she's an expert at.
Jon is the warden. He has sealed the fate of the North. It is his verdict that matters, never mind how the showrunners are trying to downplay his importance.

To me, Dany is the biggest loser of the episode. She's lost her right hand man, her Dothraki screamers, a good number of Unsullied and her dragons are wounded. Her position is badly weakened. I wonder what kind of ecstasy Cersei will feel when she hears the news.

Sansa should make no mistake. If she finally has two brain cells to rub together as she wants us to believe, she should know that Cersei will surely come for the North if she defeats the Dragon Queen.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 3:50pm On Apr 30, 2019
meforkene:
THIS THREAD MUST EXCEED 1000 PAGES BEFORE BY THE END OF Episode 6 REVIEWS.

Do you doubt this? Or you wan bet?
Nobody wan try.
If you leave this thread for just 3 hours and come back later, you'll find yourself like 5 pages behind. grin
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 10:59am On Apr 30, 2019
Credits for Episode-03

TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 10:53am On Apr 30, 2019
Magnifico2000:
Point of correction Ramsey doesn't know how to fight. Go back to the previous seasons and see for yourself.
Ramsey was never really involved in a one on one combat with an enemy.


Although he is really good at using crossbow, a good Archer.
Happy you mentioned the crossbow. That is a weapon used for fighting. Ergo, Ramsay can fight, he does not necessarily have to be the best at it.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 10:11am On Apr 30, 2019
HanksAnuku:
Sansa puts the U in uselessness
More like, puts all the S's in uSeleSSneSS

And she even has the guts to diss Daenerys. Ingrate!

The most satisfying death to me was Joffery's. That little shii has no skill except cruelty. At least, Ramsay knew how to fight and was relatively cunning
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:59pm On Apr 29, 2019
echibuogwu:
Tyrion is the most overrated character in GOT, that dude is not as smart as we think, he barely make good contributions in crucially matters, his ideas don’t make a difference and he was outsmarted by Cersei, the most annoying part of it all was when he was lamenting about being in the crypt, boasting of how he could have helped and made a difference, when the few dead finally resurrected in the crypt, he was the first to hide, he did nothing, absolutely nothing
He became poorly developed after the showrunners had the wheel. His character development went to the dogs.
They made him look so cowardly whereas he had already tasted battle. Once in s01 where he marshalled the Mountain tribes and lasted only 5 mins. The other was in the Battle of the Blackwater. He got the nickname 'Halfman' from the battlefield.
The least they could do for him was to give him a 'Davos role'. It was so pathetic to watch for a Tyrion fan like me. I know GRRM will do a better job with the character so I won't lose sleep over it.
I don't even want to dabble into his sudden loss of intelligence. That one is a disgrace.
TV/MoviesRe: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:41pm On Apr 29, 2019
Cybertext:
Sansa na mumu na .... When Dany and others were busy battling it out with the dead, she was still playing yeye politics on Tyrion (giving him conditions). I like the way Missandei put her in her place.
I literally clapped.
The most beautiful woman on the show put her in her place.

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